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  1. 9:09 AM] Space is the Place: can someone explain this
  2. [9:09 AM] Space is the Place: and why they even leave team damage in the game if you're gonna get banned for t/king? now people will jump in front of you to get you b anned lol
  3. [10:31 AM] Shumbi: I'm pretty sure you get banned if you tk two people but there's still the problem of accidental killing bans. It's mostly to prevent the massive amount of toxic teamkilling that's happening, Honestly they should add a forgive / punish system but I don't see that happening
  4. [11:35 AM] Space is the Place: or just take out friendly fire
  5. [11:35 AM] Space is the Place: I don't really see what it adds to 90% of the games it's included in but maybe that's just me
  6. [11:37 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: most of time it’s included to encourage more tactical gameplay
  7. [11:37 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: removing deliberate features of a game in response to toxicity will never get anywhere
  8. [11:38 AM] Space is the Place: I mean
  9. [11:38 AM] Space is the Place: you circumvent the t/k problem if you can't t/k
  10. [11:38 AM] Space is the Place: that's the biggest form of griefing possible
  11. [11:39 AM] Space is the Place: I don't really care either way but I just think friendly fire is silly
  12. [11:39 AM] Space is the Place: I abuse it in every single game and it adds nothing to any experiences I've taken part of
  13. [11:40 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: yeah, but the point of it being there is that you have to watch for your teammates so that you don’t kill them, and also so that you can’t just stand in a line and spam through your teammates
  14. [11:40 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: on another note, if you’ve abused friendly fire in every single game you played with it, that just makes you a toxic person
  15. [11:41 AM] Space is the Place: just make it so you can't shoot through teammates :neutral_face:
  16. [11:41 AM] Space is the Place: yeah, owned
  17. [11:42 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: that’s more of a secondary point, the idea is that you want people to be more careful around their teammates, because accidental teamkills do happen
  18. [11:42 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: it’s a tactical realism feature, and removing it wouldn’t stop toxicity
  19. [11:43 AM] Space is the Place: I guess but they already ban you for saying things in chat so how else could you even grief besides corner blocking someone?
  20. [11:43 AM] Space is the Place: you can already do that and if you shoot them you get penalized lol
  21. [11:43 AM] Space is the Place: I've blocked some dude in with my friends every single round and he couldn't do anything
  22. [11:44 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: that just proves my point
  23. [11:44 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: toxic people will find a way to be toxic despite what devs remove or keep in their game
  24. [11:44 AM] Space is the Place: that what, you should just let people do as many things as possible since you can't take them all out even though one is like 90% of the problem?
  25. [11:45 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: if you don’t like tactical games, don’t play them
  26. [11:46 AM] Space is the Place: I don't know what that has to do with griefing since I have only ever griefed in games I find fun, mostly in Minecraft with Matt
  27. [11:46 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: people teamkill to be toxic because it’s the easiest, if they couldn’t teamkill, they’d bodyblock, or flash, or destroy gadgets. removing tking won’t solve anything
  28. [11:47 AM] Space is the Place: you wouldn't be dead for a round, that's a pretty big solution
  29. [11:47 AM] Space is the Place: "oh no someone killed my floor trap" is a lot better than "okay well I guess I'm not playing the game for minutes at a time"
  30. [11:48 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: yeah, better make it so that enemies can’t kill you either, because we wouldn’t want anybody to feel bad for not being able to play for like, two minutes
  31. [11:48 AM] Space is the Place: what do you mean by that lol?
  32. [11:48 AM] Space is the Place: why can't enemies kill you without friendly fire?
  33. [11:48 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: wooosh
  34. [11:49 AM] Space is the Place: it also disadvantages the entire team being in a 4v5
  35. [11:49 AM] Space is the Place: you can explain it instead of being rude
  36. [11:49 AM] Space is the Place: but okay
  37. [11:49 AM] Space is the Place: I mean that's part of the game
  38. [11:49 AM] Space is the Place: I don't think anyone goes into a match expecting to be instantly teamkilled since that's not a pre-designed gameplay loop
  39. [11:49 AM] Space is the Place: is that what you're saying?
  40. [11:50 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: it disadvantages you anyway if someone on your team is actively working against you, even if they can’t teamkill you
  41. [11:50 AM] Space is the Place: dying to an enemy during normal play = getting t/kd instantly on spawn
  42. [11:50 AM] Space is the Place: yeah but you have control over your own character no matter what
  43. [11:50 AM] Space is the Place: like you can press buttons and do things
  44. [11:51 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: and they can’t bodyblock or flash you?
  45. [11:51 AM] Space is the Place: it takes effort to actively troll you like that
  46. [11:51 AM] Space is the Place: that means they can't play either
  47. [11:51 AM] Rewiales: I’m a bystander here
  48. [11:51 AM] Rewiales: But getting tkd feels a lot worse than getting flashed
  49. [11:51 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: if they teamkill you, that generally indicates they don’t want to play either
  50. [11:51 AM] Rewiales: That’s why there are band
  51. [11:52 AM] Rewiales: Bans
  52. [11:52 AM] Space is the Place: I have 100 hours+ and have never seen someone t/k me then just sit there
  53. [11:52 AM] Space is the Place: they usually kill me then go play
  54. [11:52 AM] Rewiales: Because if you don’t want to play, why make everyone not play
  55. [11:52 AM] Space is the Place: most of the time they kill me cause I did something to them apparently
  56. [11:52 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: yeah, so they deliberately put their team at a disadvantage because of some perceived slight
  57. [11:52 AM] Space is the Place: yeah
  58. [11:52 AM] Space is the Place: it's really common
  59. [11:53 AM] Space is the Place: literally mostly every time that's the case
  60. [11:53 AM] Space is the Place: I do it just to be a piece of shit
  61. [11:53 AM] Space is the Place: they do it cause I'm dumb and put up the wrong wall
  62. [11:53 AM] Space is the Place: I've had someone kill me and my 2 friends for doing that lol
  63. [11:53 AM] Space is the Place: a bit silly
  64. [11:54 AM] Space is the Place: anyways I uninstalled, I think it's a weird thing to encorporate into the game at this point especially with the fact that the game is generally CQC combat, there's explosives and the TTK is almost instantaneous
  65. [11:54 AM] Space is the Place: incorporate
  66. [11:54 AM] Space is the Place: exdee
  67. [11:55 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: yeah, so you can’t just shoot and throw grenades around your teammates. that would be stupid and nullify the point of a tactical game
  68. [11:55 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: again, if you don’t want to play a tactical game, don’t
  69. [11:57 AM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: just cause you’re a shithead and kill your teammates purposely doesn’t mean the devs should water down the game for everyone else
  70. [11:59 AM] Space is the Place: >team damage in the game
  71. >damage team
  72. >banned
  73.  
  74. ????
  75. [11:59 AM] Space is the Place: explain that one
  76. [12:00 PM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: >complain about teamdamage in a tactical game
  77. >teamkill to be toxic
  78. >get banned
  79. >complain
  80. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: that doesn't make sense
  81. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: I've shot a ton of people by accident
  82. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: I watch a lot of pro players
  83. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: it happens a lot
  84. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: you get 30 minutes for ONE t/d
  85. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: that's kind of silly
  86. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: if it was one t/k then subsequent damage that's fine
  87. [12:00 PM] Space is the Place: shooting someone by mistake is so easy
  88. [12:01 PM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: almost like it’s a deliberate feature
  89. [12:01 PM] Space is the Place: do you watch Destiny?
  90. NEW MESSAGES
  91. [12:01 PM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: the ban system is more lenient on people who teamkill less, because that indicates they only ever do it accidentally
  92. [12:02 PM] 4th-Grade Octopus Fight Champion: and no, you don’t get banned for one teamkill
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