[11:33:58 AM] Robert: i get it just cause more ms more ad damage
[11:34:11 AM] Robert: plus my phase rush that i'm using
[11:34:19 AM] Robert: lol man you really got to watch it
[11:34:20 AM] Ajulex: You are VASTLY overestimating how much damage celerity gives you
[11:34:27 AM] Ajulex: I don't recommend building entirely around it
[11:34:44 AM] Robert: not when you're stacking it the way i do
[11:35:16 AM] Ajulex: You could be getting more damage, along with in-fight sustain, and just as much movement speed that you can proc way more often, by going fleet footwork
[11:35:21 AM] Robert: i am doing pure flat damage ms only helps a lil but with jhin is helps a lot
[11:35:52 AM] Ajulex: Jhin's passive gives him damage based on his attack speed and crit strike chance
[11:36:01 AM] Ajulex: Building attack speed gives more damage
[11:36:08 AM] Robert: but with fleet work i loose all the other boost i have that add to the ms damage that it doesn't produce
[11:36:08 AM] Ajulex: Because it's easier to build AS than MS
[11:36:40 AM] Ajulex: Go precision, fleet footwork, triumph, legend: alacrity or legend: bloodlines, and coup de grace
[11:36:45 AM] Robert: i get ms to any impaired champ i get ms off my w i get ms at 10 minutes that's all early game
[11:36:52 AM] Robert: I've done that
[11:36:56 AM] Ajulex: Secondary celerity and scorch
[11:37:06 AM] Robert: i don't even use scorch anymore
[11:37:18 AM] Robert: I've tested every possible build
[11:37:23 AM] Robert: then did this one
[11:37:25 AM] Ajulex: You generally don't want to be running towards anyone
[11:37:34 AM] Robert: 85 damage to start
[11:37:46 AM] Robert: even for jinx
[11:37:50 AM] Robert: starts her at 81
[11:38:06 AM] Robert: the recommended build starts her at 79
[11:38:26 AM] Robert: plus it's so easy for jinx to hit a phase rush lol why not
[11:38:35 AM] Robert: really any ad
[11:38:42 AM] Robert: 3 hits boots of ms
[11:38:53 AM] Robert: wich means your next hit is just murder
[11:39:05 AM] Ajulex: You do you, man, I'm just saying that phase rush is harder to proc and offers less benefits for someone who builds crit than fleet footwork
[11:39:14 AM] Robert: it is if you are missing
[11:39:23 AM] Ajulex: And pta or lethal tempo are very good for jinx
[11:39:28 AM] Robert: same with press the attack
[11:39:30 AM] Ajulex: Due to her heavy AA based playstyle
[11:39:53 AM] Robert: press the attack is so effective if you can get the stacks it's broken
[11:40:06 AM] Ajulex: Very
[11:40:19 AM] Robert: that's what i was doing on my jinx before the phase rush
[11:40:38 AM] Robert: and that raped this rapes way harder
[11:41:08 AM] Robert: plus i start with more natural damage
[11:41:16 AM] Ajulex: The CD on phase rush just makes it inferior to fleet footwork on someone who moves and attacks so much
[11:41:19 AM] Ajulex: But whatever's clever
[11:41:29 AM] Robert: it's up when ever i need it
[11:41:39 AM] Robert: fleet work good for poke yeah
[11:41:46 AM] Robert: but depends who you're up against
[11:41:58 AM] Robert: i don't like to poke and trade
[11:42:17 AM] Ajulex: You do you my friend
[11:42:24 AM] Robert: trade isn't good
[11:42:35 AM] Robert: i got against a lot of fleet work
[11:42:39 AM] Robert: they heal
[11:42:55 AM] Robert: but when i can burst em down over 75% in 3 shots
[11:42:55 AM] Ajulex: yeah, weird how it's such a good keystone on ADCs
[11:42:56 AM] Robert: lol
[11:43:00 AM] Robert: not much they can do
[11:43:00 AM] Ajulex: if only someone had told you that
[11:43:15 AM] Robert: like i said
[11:43:18 AM] Robert: I've tested it
[11:43:22 AM] Robert: it's cool and all
[11:43:32 AM] Robert: but i am looking for more damage then sustain
[11:44:05 AM] Ajulex: Then you'll lose to people like draven, ez, and sivir
[11:44:14 AM] Robert: my sustain is decent so i'm not to worried about it but when i get to engage lol theres no getting away from me
[11:44:19 AM] Ajulex: Who don't give half a shit about your damage and will just fuck you in other ways
[11:44:22 AM] Robert: lmao i wreck them
[11:44:23 AM] Robert: man
[11:44:28 AM] Robert: like i said
[11:44:49 AM] Ajulex: Do keep in mind you're playing in bronze and I'm playing against mid to high golds, sometimes more
[11:44:51 AM] Robert: you haven't seen my play style since i been doing research
[11:45:00 AM] Robert: you right
[11:45:02 AM] Ajulex: Since I play with friends that raise my mmr
[11:45:09 AM] Robert: but lot of smurfs in bronze
[11:45:16 AM] Ajulex: So I might be underestimating every single person you play against to be awful
[11:45:41 AM] Ajulex: But I assure you if you take phase rush movement speed ADC into ranked at gold+ you will not do nearly as well as you expect
[11:46:12 AM] Ajulex: but hey, you seem to want to figure that out on your own
[11:46:12 AM] Robert: and if diamond is not really different then bronze or silver que and basically theres more skill required for bronze silver and diamond
[11:46:17 AM] Ajulex: it's all you man
[11:46:37 AM] Robert: gold and plat are the only balance rankeds
[11:48:23 AM] Robert: gold plat smurf have bronze characaters
[11:49:07 AM] Robert: and what lol i just read that what do you mean i want to figure it out on my own??
[11:49:24 AM] Robert: everything you just said i read it already and heard in youtube
[11:49:36 AM] Robert: so how you think i figured out what i'm doing?
[11:49:47 AM] Robert: i tested it
[11:49:52 AM] Ajulex: Well I mean, on paper and in practice are two different things
[11:49:54 AM] Robert: my cs is way higher
[11:49:57 AM] Robert: with what i'm doing
[11:50:03 AM] Robert: my lane phase is much easier
[11:50:09 AM] Robert: I've tested it
[11:50:10 AM] Robert: many games
[11:50:14 AM] Robert: all the builds
[11:50:16 AM] Robert: many games
[11:50:20 AM] Ajulex: When you get to higher ranks, you'll learn that there's a reason no one does it
[11:50:33 AM] Ajulex: Have you ever thought maybe you're just getting better and it's not the build?>
[11:50:34 AM] Robert: cause they suck lol
[11:50:43 AM] Robert: if i can land 3 hits
[11:50:46 AM] Robert: based off my skill
[11:50:51 AM] Robert: i'll ruin you
[11:50:57 AM] Robert: so that's me
[11:51:09 AM] Ajulex: Your phase rush wouldn't affect your CS, and iof you say your CS is higher then that's all you, not your runes
[11:51:20 AM] Ajulex: Ansd if your CS is higher, you get items faster
[11:51:26 AM] Ajulex: Thus making your laning phase easier
[11:51:36 AM] Ajulex: I'm not saying you're a bad player robert
[11:51:37 AM] Robert: lol
[11:51:43 AM] Robert: phase rush doesn't duh
[11:51:51 AM] Robert: the other runes that come with it do
[11:51:56 AM] Ajulex: I'm saying you might be putting too much stalk into phase rush on an adc
[11:52:07 AM] Ajulex: You can get those same runes if you take fleet footwork
[11:52:15 AM] Robert: not all of them
[11:52:18 AM] Ajulex: Celerity and gathering storm as your secondary
[11:52:33 AM] Ajulex: And I can't imagine manaflow band or ultimate hat helps with cs
[11:52:42 AM] Robert: i lose the boots and the impaired movement bonus plus the adaptive damage
[11:52:46 AM] Robert: at 10 minutes
[11:52:56 AM] Robert: after 10 minutes
[11:53:06 AM] Robert: my build crushes fleetworks
[11:53:11 AM] Ajulex: Chrysalis?
[11:53:13 AM] Ajulex: Ehhh
[11:53:26 AM] Robert: lol lot of adaptive damage
[11:53:34 AM] Robert: that's what you're not seeing
[11:53:55 AM] Robert: i'm using basically the runes that occure the most adaptive damage
[11:54:05 AM] Robert: i play safe for 10 minutes
[11:54:10 AM] Robert: then i can go crazy
[11:54:12 AM] Robert: ez