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- → Craster has joined
- ⓘ Lord, we ask blessings for all those who work to help and protect us. May they maintain their desire to serve in our military, emergency services and medical facilities. Keep them safe and keep thier families secure. Amen
- ⓘ BibleBot set mode +v Craster
- +farfaraway
- if there is justice
- +Craster
- Praying for those who kill others in war -- a timeless Christian message!
- +farfaraway
- then there will be peace
- if not then only war
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- +Bratac
- Ober 2 million Muslims live in peace with other American in the US
- +farfaraway
- the fact that the Global economy has put many people behind
- neoliberalism has destroyed mankind
- +Bratac
- farfaraway I am done, you are not a Muslim.
- +Craster
- farfaraway: What would you replace it with?
- +farfaraway
- Islam
- +Bratac
- the Quran permits Muslims to accept a peace treaty from the unbelievers whom they are fighting:
- But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in God. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower. S. 8:61 Hilali-Khan
- +Bratac
- I asked for peace between you and I, and you rejected it.
- +Craster
- farfaraway: Why is Islam a better system?
- +farfaraway
- it rejects usury
- usury was poularized by jeremy bentham
- in islam it is of the worst crimes
- equated with declaration of war upon God and prophet
- +Craster
- farfaraway: I'm looking at Defense of Usury by Jeremy Bentham -- I'm not familiar.
- You've raised an interesting point.
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- +farfaraway
- as long as church was in control
- it forbid charging of usury
- +Craster
- farfaraway: Do you think the quality of life in neoliberal states, as of 2017, is higher or lower than Islamic/Muslim-majority states, as of 2017?
- +farfaraway
- but well after the elightment
- you have to know that jeremy bentham has become the pillar of western capitalistic systems
- neoliberalism has created the most intense gap in human history
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- +farfaraway
- it is based on fiat currency
- which is outright stealing
- milton fridman was an agnostic Jew
- neoliberalism is stealing
- and savagery to the fullest
- +Craster
- farfaraway: Are you going to address my question?
- +farfaraway
- the quality of life has become at the expense of others people sufferings
- USA is printing money
- +Craster
- farfaraway: Are you finished with the conversation?
- +farfaraway
- and attacks any country that will dare challenge the current status-quo
- hate?
- you cant print money
- Ignoring farfaraway!*@*
- +Craster
- farfaraway: I put you on ignore.
- I liked the points you were making -- I agree with many of them.
- +Bratac
- Shirakawasuna Agree: <+Shirakawasuna> he just looks for a platform for his hate
- Stopped ignoring Shirakawasuna!*@*
- +Shirakawasuna
- inflation used to be a big deal before we had the fed
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- +Shirakawasuna
- Sep 19 10:53:47 <farfaraway> Jesus second coming is near
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- +Shirakawasuna
- just gotta not feed the narrative
- +Craster
- Shirakawasuna: Please don't engage dumb people.
- +Shirakawasuna
- depending on how you define dumb, that might mean ignoring most people Craster
- +Craster
- Agreed.
- +Shirakawasuna
- marx didn't prove anything
- +Shirakawasuna
- Marx proposed a historical analysis to describe how labor and capital function, but was writing in the vein of Hegel and other philosophers where you more or less get to just provide your grand opinion and leave it at that, no real data required
- lol come on you don't even know Marx
- it's just another part of your hate
- +Mooonesty
- Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship the same God.
- +Shirakawasuna
- they're all monotheists of abrahamic religions
- +Mooonesty
- Shirakawasuna: and they'll *never* see -- nor admit -- it, ya know?
- +Shirakawasuna
- 'they'
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- +Shirakawasuna
- 2/5 stars
- +Craster
- Shirakawasuna: You're continuing to engage somebody you typed "lol" towards.
- Mooonesty: There are no gods.
- So, no, Muslims, Jews, and Christians do not worship the same god.
- +Shirakawasuna
- and you're a ban-evading lania
- +Mooonesty
- Of course, Craster ... *all* stories of deities are fiction
- +Craster
- Gods are totems for the values of a culture. The values, current politico-economic, and history arc of Jewish, Christian, and Muslims communities differ. Therefore, their Totem Ideal differs.
- politico-economic status*
- +Mooonesty
- Craster: how is it they don't believe in hundreds of others gods but, no, not theirs? i can't get my head around that
- +Craster
- Mooonesty: Religions are not evidence-based worldviews.
- +Mooonesty
- Craster: correct
- +Craster
- Therefore, the answer to that question will lie in human psychology.
- My guess is that monotheism has a comparative advantage in that it draws a very clear line around 'right' belief.
- +Mooonesty
- good point, Craster
- +Craster
- Also, perhaps monotheism is a push/effect of cognitive homogeneity.
- Which is the end goal of a lot of this, I think.
- Cognitive homogeneity is very useful for a lot of things, e.g. acausal trade theory.
- If you can assume cognitive homogeneity, you can make decisions for the entire universe.
- When I can steal, on Earth, and I don't, I decide that for agents in the Andromeda galaxy.
- At faster than c.
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