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- Trope Talk: Strong Female Characters
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- Why is writing girls difficult?
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- This is a legit question, I swear. More than half the population is girls
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- But it feels like there are only like five girl characters in existence
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- There's the mom, the damsel, the hardened badass, the sexy one and the silly one, but if you look at the dude archetypes
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- You've got way more variety
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- There's the paragon, the big friendly guy, the smart guy, that dark misunderstood one, the Moral gray area, the team dad, the lancer
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- and so many more. Hell, even the everyman is a dude why?
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- This isn't meant to be accusatory in any way
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- I've honestly been trying to figure this out because I have so much trouble with this.
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- The first piece of major writing I did had precisely one female character.
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- She was pretty and demure and cried a lot and had healing powers.
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- It was a disgrace really.
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- The thing is, when people notice this problem the first solution tends to be to take a fully developed male character and turn him into a girl
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- Take the big guy now he's a girl.
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- Smart guy --> smart girl. And this can totally work
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- But sometimes you get weird translation errors where traits affiliated with the archetype clash with their gender.
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- Like when you take a grizzled soldier badass and make him a her
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- There's a weird tendency for her to spout a bunch of cookie cutter
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- "Don't be such a girl," stuff every other minute
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- Because of course in fictional militaries the overwhelming attitude is very classic Macho.
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- So when you fit a female character in there you get a weird bit of character whiplash when her own Machismo is expressed by calling
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- Unimpressive behavior womanly.
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- Like, girl
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- Own yourself
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- By the way this character is pretty much what people are referring to half the time when they scornfully call someone a "Strong female character."
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- The other half they're talking about a Bayonetta type who is threateningly sexy.
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- The I'll kick your ass and look good while doing it variety, which is just a variant on the aforementioned sexy archetype.
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- Actually more specifically
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- It's a repurposing of a villainous female archetype. The dominatrix kind of villain who's both sexy, and intimidating.
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- You can totally take that archetype and turn it into a hero
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- But that's actually a new development since for a few centuries there, women weren't allowed to have sex drives
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- So of course only evil women could be dangerously sexy.
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- But anyway, there is another instance of that cookie-cutter gender swap thing where the translation error doesn't manifest in the character
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- But in the reception of the character.
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- Like, well... not to open a can of worms, but like Rey from The Force Awakens.
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- I was so surprised when I went online after I saw the movie, and everyone was complaining that Rey was an OP Mary Sue
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- because when I saw that movie
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- It looked like a faithful recreation of episode four, magic space orphan and all.
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- Rey and Luke were the same character with a slightly different attitude
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- But a chunk of the internet went berserk.
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- Now admittedly the internet is in a constant state of going berserk over something or other, but this one kind of hurt.
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- Because I really liked Rey.
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- I liked her curiosity, her experimentation with her powers.
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- One of the most complained about scenes when she manages to mind-trick the guard was one of my favorites because
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- It was obvious she'd grown up hearing stories about what the Jedi could do and as soon as she learned she was force sensitive
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- She started trying new things she'd heard about in stories
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- And I really liked that because it was exactly what I would do. She felt like a real person to me.
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- But her confidence and the rapid growth of her powers flipped some rage switch that wonderboy fighter pilot chosen one Luke Skywalker hadn't.
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- And we can argue about why all day long, but I'd rather not
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- Because fundamentally, I think the problem here isn't gender specific at all
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- I think it's just symptomatic of a much larger characterization problem.
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- The root of the error, I think, is that writers oftentimes draw inspiration more from other stories than they do from reality.
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- And it's a sad truth that up until a few decades ago there were basically four or five girl characters.
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- You got your fairy tale princesses, your moms, your femme fatales, and your occasional viking warrior woman.
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- And the characters ended up getting recycled as a consequence of the fact that most writers are inspired to write by absorbing what other people write.
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- The original error and girl characterization is yes rooted in centuries of dude centric storytelling
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- But the reason why it propagated is I'm pretty sure this and then within the past few decades
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- You suddenly got this moment of clarity where people started asking
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- "Why does this character have to be a dude?"
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- And that's how you got the cookie cutter gender swap stuff which by the way was
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- The second approach toward female characters that I ended up writing into that world.
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- I had a warrior prince I decided to add some estrogen to.
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- Again, shamefully lax writing on my part, but in my defense
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- I was like 12
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- But I think this idea that we should write from archetypes is the root of the problem
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- Because if we were drawing characters from our lives instead
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- I'd say the vast majority of us have been exposed to all kinds of fascinating people of every gender.
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- Archetypal writing is what leads to half a million identical heroes fighting the other half million villains.
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- There's nothing wrong with starting from other stories, but there are so many benefits to drawing from reality too.
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- Now, I'm better at actually drawing that I am at writing
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- So let's use that as an analogy for a minute.
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- Say you want to learn how to draw which I heartily recommend. Say you start by drawing cartoon characters you like.
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- Or by getting one of those how to draw anime books and filling in the lines. You can get really good at that
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- But in the end you'll be making what is functionally someone else's art style
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- And if that art style doesn't cover how to draw, I don't know, dogs
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- How are you gonna draw that dog you want to draw?
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- Well, you can google how to draw a dog and follow the instructions
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- But that'll get you have someone else would draw a dog. Do this with enough things and you end up with this weird Franken-style.
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- Where your art is a patchwork of other people's art.
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- Sometimes the style discrepancy is very visible
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- Especially when you have, for example, very stylized cartoon characters in front of incredibly detailed backgrounds.
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- Or very Disney looking humans with more Looney Tunesy animals.
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- But there's another way to learn art and it's pretty much the only way to develop a unique style
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- And guarantee that whatever you end up making, it'll be something nobody else could have made.
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- Unless, of course, they were imitating you.
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- Obviously it's life drawing.
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- But more specifically, it's developing artist eyes
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- You sort of need to be able to look at the world and see in your head how you draw what you're seeing.
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- Animators watch people moving and learn how to get across incredibly complex motion without compromising the simplicity of their visual style
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- Painters see swathes in color and contemplate the brush and palette knife tricks they'd used to recreate it.
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- Graphic artists see light and shadow and learn how to get across a realistic human face with only a few blocks of black and white.
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- And writers see the people around them and see the characters that their personality could contribute to.
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- There are story characters that are so vivid and unique that you can practically hear the person who inspired their creation.
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- Any given Terry Pratchett novel is full of them
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- A character inspired by life is going to feel so much realer than a character inspired by another character
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- No matter how good the original character is learning from someone else's style will only show you how to do what they've already done.
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- If you want to do something new or take the character in a unique direction
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- You'll need to draw on your experiences from reality instead.
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- So even though statistically speaking the vast majority of us know at least as many girls as guys
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- The tendency towards archetypal writing leads us to disregard these people when the time comes to design our characters.
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- And though there's nothing wrong with drawing inspiration from the works of others
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- If you don't add any of your own observations or experiences your character is going to be wrote.
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- But there is, I think, another element contributing to a certain amount of the trouble people have with writing girl characters, specifically
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- And that's that in our culture there are things that girls are supposed to be
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- The most obvious one of these is pretty. If you're not pretty, it's almost like you're doing something wrong.
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- Now this is why girl characters in almost any story are going to be traditionally attractive regardless of species, profession or circumstance.
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- It just feels like the norm. The baseline. Now obviously there are exceptions
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- But the mere fact that there are notable exceptions kind of reveals that there's a rule here.
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- Now I like pretty girls as much as anybody else, but we don't write characters we idealize all the time.
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- Or at least we shouldn't because that'd be kind of boring
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- But there are other girl rules in place that have much more of a character impact than simple appearance, because beyond the physical
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- There are social rules we kind of absorb and assume are the norm again most obviously
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- There's been this idea for a very long time that when things get serious the girls hang back and the dude folk sort things out
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- It's a chivalry thing
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- But it becomes almost cartoonish when it shows up in Modern Cinemas favorite action comedy trope of the decade
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- The ludicrously competent girl training the completely inexperienced schlub
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- Everywhere from the Matrix to the Lego movie the ludicrously badass strong female character with years of experience, building on already extant native talent
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- Hangs back in the finale while the schlub with a week of training saves the day.
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- And it feels natural.
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- No matter how badass she is, she ends up being a support character because girls support dudes in our culture and again there are exceptions
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- But again there are notable exceptions and again this isn't accusatory
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- It's just something to be aware of. We want to write good stories
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- It's good to be aware of the things we silently assume have to be there
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- There are a few more rules in place that are less rigid but still present for example
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- Girls aren't generally supposed to take up space so their visual designs will tend towards compactness either short or on significant occasions tall but willowy
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- You end up with a lot of socially motivated trends over an entire gender of character, and yes dudes too, and again
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- It's because we're writing from archetypes. Not experience. We know people or are people who aren't traditionally attractive
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- We know dudes who cry and girls who are six foot six and bench eye beams in their spare time
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- And we know the impracticalities maintaining a glamour routine on a daily basis, let alone, while stuck on a desert island or an Alien planet
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- We know this stuff, but because we're writing from other stories all this cool real stuff doesn't get included which is a shame really
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- So yeah.
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