[This starts out about george banning me then goes into zora's post to me]



Stop being a whiny brat and unban me...from everything.


You can keep the minecraft ban if you want.  I did troll it, but after all everyone says cheezdude has trolled it so many times.  Not to mention it was easy fix as in restore backup from 30mins prior to my login to the server.


But banning me from the TF2 server?  That's abusing your admin.  Why?  You're not fitting the punishment to the crime.  Don't give me bullshit, give me at least some semi-intelligent administrator use.

Then you ban me from the forums...double ban?  Banned Drybones5 and my ip address? banning ip addresses is useless since I can get shits of them easy, like this one.

If you don't like what I said, tough shit then, cause I'm not holding back.  AT THIS MOMENT, I have nothing to lose except a ban or three.





And because I hate secrets (most of the time) so here's a conversation from today with me and zora.


Thursday, January 27, 2011
9:09 AM - {GCN}   Zora: Are you there?
9:31 AM - {GCN}   Zora: I've been meaning to ask you why Mike.  Why do you keep this up? You are making everyone in GCN hate you and NFC. You think GCN hates NFC.  I can tell you that is not the case. The only time any of us speaks ill of that small clan, is when you do the things you have.  Burning all of the MC server? Stealing from chests that you see? Coming into the GCN rotation server to just micspam? I just don't get it.  Every time you and the few clan members that you get do it, you are making NFC look worse and worse in our eyes. I can't imaging what its like in the NFC member, is there a channel that says "plotting against GCN?"  I just don't understand how you do this from your point of view, but anytime anyone questions you about it, you wonder quite often why there isn't peace between us?  Well, you.  You are the reason why there is no peace. and Until you guys finally GROW UP, you and the worst members of your clan is not welcome onto anything I directly own.  I really don't know why Element defends you.  Or tries to, he's not very good at it.  I try to learn what he is thinking, talk some sense into him.  This isn't the way the world is. I don't know why you don't just sit your ass down and play the game.  Really! Just play the games! GCN doesn't want anything to do with you.  I've tried to keep the outlook on you as professional as possible, but you have shown my clan you are lower than or respect. Good Job. I wonder if you have attained your goal, or if you have more in store.  And don't start with this sister community thing. no....doesn't work like that. You don't bash us over and over and over, then expect to have our respect. It doesn't work that way here, and it doesn't work that way in real life. I think the best thing now would be animosity. Not mutual friendship, no sister communities, just plain outright animosity. Leave us, leave me, and leave my property alone. I'm asking of you to one last time.  Just leave me alone. No more copying my identity.  No more claiming I'm using Element to project my anger.
9:31 AM - {GCN}   Zora: Because I'm not angry.  I'm just sad and frustrated you don't act your age.  I've tried to help you, I've tried to help the few members I have friendship with in NFC.  They really don't know why you do it either and they are embarrassed by your actions. The best advice I've been given today was to just keep my head down and hope that you grow up some...or get bored.  Whichever comes first.  I've recently bought a new laptop (yesterday) and I'm wondering what did I pay 1200 dollars for? Not to play with my clan like I originally thought.  Apparently it was to answer tons of the same questions by everyone on why did I ban someone. or try and defend myself when someone pretends to be me in Steam. All in High QUality. heh...It's too stressful and I don't think I can do it anymore..I'm done trying to help. ~~Zora
{GCN}   Zora is now Online.
{GCN}   Zora is now Away.
{GCN}   Zora is now Offline.
{GCN}   Zora is now Online.
{GCN}   Zora is now Away.
{GCN}   Zora is now Snooze.
{GCN}   Zora is now Online.
{GCN}   Zora is now Away.
{GCN}   Zora is now Online.
{GCN}   Zora is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
{GCN}   Zora is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
{GCN}   Zora is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
{GCN}   Zora is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
{GCN}   Zora is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
{GCN}   Zora is now Away.
{GCN}   Zora is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
2:52 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: what kind of laptop did you get?
2:53 PM - {GCN}   Zora: Asus, i7 740. 1.73GHz, quad core, GeForce 42something graphics, 17.5'' monitor. 1200
2:53 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: D:::::
2:53 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: fuuuu
2:53 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: awesome lappy
2:54 PM - {GCN}   Zora: yeah, its nice. My gameplay is off, but I assume that's only because of I'm not used to it
2:54 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: my gameplay gets off with me chanintg my mice
2:55 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: it's probably the increase in fps
2:55 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: and such, just higher quality you may not be used to
2:55 PM - {GCN}   Zora: I'm still using an FPS config
2:55 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: make sur eyou put multicore rendering on
2:55 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: *sure
2:56 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: i it starts skipping, then the map doesn't support it
2:56 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: it's in the video settings
2:56 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: anyways, about your message(s) to me
2:56 PM - {GCN}   Zora: yes
2:56 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I don't hate GCN.  I only hate gorge, you know that lol
2:57 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: it started a few weeks ago in the draw my thing game, george made some funny images of nfc
2:57 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: thenbone and wisey joined in his fun
2:57 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: and element and me did our fun
2:57 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: it just slowly went from there
2:57 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: not to mention many GCN members removing me from their friends list
2:58 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I started to think that half of GCN just randomly didn't like NFC or me
2:58 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: well I got my minecraft working again
2:58 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: up to fps speeds
2:58 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: and I went into the GCN minecraft server
2:58 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: and I remember the hole everyone was so pissed about
2:58 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: so I made a hole in george's house for trollolols
2:59 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: well it turned out being more, like making his house spawn zombies and stealing his diamonds
2:59 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: once it got more than troll, I knew wisey was going to reload the previous backup anyways
2:59 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: so I spilled lava in new redsford
2:59 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: then ban from everything started there
2:59 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: as for the micspam
3:00 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I haven't mic spammed anything in GCN in months
3:00 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: that person you banned was Kickass and he didn't know
3:00 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: and when he found out it was arule
3:00 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: he likes to push things
3:00 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: so he did it again
3:00 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: but again, was me, I didn't tell him to, I told him he would, w/e
3:01 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: *would be banned
3:01 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: Then after I was banned from forums, tf2 server, minecraft and mumble the next time george saw me in it
3:01 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I decided to start copying people's profiles on steam
3:01 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: cause it was like
3:01 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: "what else could they do to me?"
3:02 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: -END-
{GCN}   Zora has changed their name to {GCN}  Not Zora.
{GCN}  Not Zora has changed their name to {GCN}   Zora.
3:25 PM - {GCN}   Zora: well I think something you don't realize...the reason WHY people delete youoff their friends list, and stop communication.
3:25 PM - {GCN}   Zora: It is in retaliation to what you've done.
3:25 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I was pretty sure conchris was on my list
3:26 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I never did anything to him
3:26 PM - {GCN}   Zora: I can't speak for him, he's JUST got into GCN
3:26 PM - {GCN}   Zora: you know, you don't have to hate someone to take them off your friends list.
3:26 PM - {GCN}   Zora: I delete people all the time just because it is too full. and I ond't communicate with them
3:27 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: well boneblade ook me off
3:27 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: we were good friends until recently
3:27 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: out of the blue
3:27 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: no idea what happened
3:28 PM - {GCN}   Zora: well, you shouldn't think because these people delete you for whateer reason, that the whole clam randomly hates you. Like I said, we don't (or at least the people I'm with, the active ones) don't give two thoughts about NFC.
3:28 PM - {GCN}   Zora: Until they do something negative like....this.
3:28 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I never did think that
3:29 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I said I thought 1/2 of it was divided
3:29 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: cause I'm still good friends with char baggins and noodles
3:29 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: but like I said, none of this happened from my doing
3:29 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: it just happened one day
3:29 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I didn't provoke anything
3:30 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I avoid any of that issue coming up in the first place
3:33 PM - {GCN}   Zora: well I don't care how it started anymore.  its in the past.  I'm asking now, to stop
3:33 PM - {GCN}   Zora: its obvious you don't care about us, and I personally wish for nothing but animosity between us
3:33 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I wanted that in the first place
3:34 PM - {GCN}   Zora: in the first place has nothing to do with it.  We are talking about now. and stopping it.
3:34 PM - {GCN}   Zora: capice?
3:34 PM - {GCN}   Zora: Will you stop?
3:34 PM - {GCN}   Zora: yes? or no?
3:35 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: I will, but it's not just me
3:35 PM - {GCN}   Zora: Thank you.
3:35 PM - {GCN}   Zora: I suppose I'll leave you on my friends list for good health?
3:35 PM - =NFC= Trollollol Accepted [✓]: sure
{GCN}   Zora is now Offline.





Lemme just make some observations in this that I only noticed after the conversation since I wasn't allowed to argue back any point:

[1.] "I think the best thing now would be animosity. Not mutual friendship, no sister communities, just plain outright animosity.  Leave us, leave me, and leave my property alone. I'm asking of you to one last time.  Just leave me alone."

[Violent hatred leading to active opposition; active enmity; energetic dislike]

So yes you want us to be enemies AND still ask me to stop doing whatever I am doing?

"3:33 PM - {GCN}   Zora: its obvious you don't care about us, and I personally wish for nothing but animosity between us"

So is this war then?



[2.] "I've tried to help you, I've tried to help the few members I have friendship with in NFC.  They really don't know why you do it either and they are embarrassed by your actions."

OH REALLY?  Well hot damn, you sure do like me and you SURE do know my members.  Not only did I ask a few members why I had GCN members give us flack about NFC, ones I asked said it was because of bullshit excuses like we're stealing members among other excuses and that they feel we're outsiders and enemies now.

You know who said that.  Creed, Drop,  and 2 people who is currently some of the top and most active GCN members.

First off, MY ACTIONS?  What did I do, troll a minecraft server for an hour?  I doubt you still talk to them three who left.  One of them hasn't been on in 11 days so I know he's out of the question in terms of knowing the current events and talking to you recently.


[3.] "Well, you.  You are the reason why there is no peace. and Until you guys finally GROW UP..."

Now you never acknowledged the story I told you.  I never started anything.  The first time I saw anything was back a few weeks ago in the OMGPOP Draw my thing game with element wisey bone george and me.

Stop thinking GCN is a perfect valley of people, cause it's not, it's a clan of PEOPLE.  People like me, like that kid at school, like everyone.  And with people comes the human errors.  There are members who do things, get over it, it happens, now you just need to accept it.


[4.] "3:28 PM - {GCN}   Zora: well, you shouldn't think because these people delete you for whatever reason, that the whole clam randomly hates you. Like I said, we don't (or at least the people I'm with, the active ones) don't give two thoughts about NFC."

You can't hear what goes on mumble behind your back.  YOU THINK you know what people are saying but because of your personality and stature, I think the only person who has EVER been honest to you was me.  I don't hold back when I talk about an event or circumstance.  Think about the times people lie for friendship, while being your admin in fear of being distrusted and more.  The time they wanted you to believe something instead of the truth for the sake of having it their way.

[u]You will NEVER know what's being said behind your back, so stop pretending to know.[/u]


[5.] "you and the worst members of your clan is not welcome onto anything I directly own."

First off, you wrote this and didn't even proof read it. ^are among the first issues grammar wise.

Second, my worst member is probably Kickass.  He's rude to new people who are slightly off tone with him and he's obnoxious.  BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, he just apologized, on his own, to 5 people, who he has continually verbally abused them for one reason/another/or non at all.

He's got hidden values you don't know about, and you know what, I like him a whole lot.  He doesn't abuse his current moderator powers.  He's never banned anyone cause frankly he hasn't needed to.  He's obedient and has helped me out.

You don't know him, so don't judge him.

THIRD, you maybe the clan leader of GCN, but you didn't make GCN.  You may pay for some of it, but even then, after people have donated, it's still not totally of your own asset to call as "mine".

You don't own GCN, GCN owns GCN, and I can't believe I have to tell you this.


[5.] "3:25 PM - {GCN}   Zora: well I think something you don't realize...the reason WHY people delete youoff their friends list, and stop communication.
3:25 PM - {GCN}   Zora: It is in retaliation to what you've done."


Let me start off, THIS IS THE FUCKING RESPONSE YOU GIVE BACK after I spend 8 minutes telling you the story of what happen and you bring THAT up?  Are you an absolute moron.  You focused on an insignificant part of my story.  THEN, THEN, you say it's because of my "retaliation"

These events happen weeks before I do anything.  I hadn't even had contact with most of GCN for a month, if I did it was because of WoW and minecraft and random steam chats and people entering the server.