cryptochangements06/29/2019
Since I wont be able to make the meeting I'll be posting a quick update here and will comment afterwards
So as the month of June comes to an end so does my first funding period as a part time dev for masari. I've been working now for 3 weeks and have 1 week left so I'd like to start by recapping what I've done in that time.
Week 1:Fixed some libwallet_api bugs that affected the GUI, made a new release v0.3.1.0 for both the CLI and GUI
Week 2: I started by porting over cross compiling capability via depends from Monero, this allows us to build releases for any operating system from Linux, vastly simplifying the release process. I then setup continuous integration via travis-ci. This will help us to avoid build bugs in the future and could possibly used for a build pipeline. I also made modifications to the core RPC API so that gnock could roll out a webwallet update in which the in browser wallet connects directly to a remote node, rather than using a server backend as a middle man. The webwallet is now functional again, it's just a little slow with the new changes. I've made a new v0.3.1.1 CLI release including these changes
Week 3: I made some more changes to the RPC API to fix a mempool bug and try to improve the speed of the webwallet sync. I'm now waiting for @gnock to deploy.
A quick overview of github activity for the last month can be viewed here: https://github.com/masari-project/masari/pulse/monthly
GitHub
masari-project/masari
Masari: simple, scalable, and private cryptocurrency - masari-project/masari

Going forward I'll be addressing a spending bug affecting a very small subset of users related to a bug with uncle mining reward indices, assisting webwallet things as-needed, and I'll be looking to work on the webwallet based electron wallet
engr.tun06/29/2019
Good day everyone!
ph06/29/2019
Hello
engr.tun06/29/2019
:zucc:
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
afternoon :wave:
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
@thaer <not asking for crypto>   hi there please can you share admin access to discord with some mods like Jeff
thedawson1306/29/2019
Hey guys due to bad timing I won't be around much or at all at meeting but I will still do summary later if needed. My input for this meeting is we need to prioritize things and it might be an idea for everyone to give top 3 priorities and see where most people's heads are at. Mine are improve the Dev donation process multisig whatever; contact exchanges like stex and south and get their nodes fixed and obviously continue with wallet fixes. Have a good meeting guys :thumbsup:
ph06/29/2019
stex, south must have the highest priority imo
olehansen06/29/2019
agree
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
@thedawson13 pretty much my top 3 aswell
 - Fix Exchange Issues
 - Wallet Fixes
 - coordination of media across - reddit/discord/twitter etc
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
Part of the updates on my end are regarding accessibility:
1) Admin priviliges were on the Core role, I'll circumvent that and bring the admin rights for specific people
2) Medium access is being recovered
3) I'm reaching out to the Blockfolio team regarding some 2FA keys that need to be reset for access
cryptochangements06/29/2019
@ph idk about south but stex is affected by the spending bug I mentioned
@thaer <not asking for crypto> sweet
ph06/29/2019
Gotcha
olehansen06/29/2019
ok
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
My top things:
1. Figure out what to with the remaining funds in the dev wallets (Masari, Monero, and BTC).
2. More marketing coordination and admin access.
3. Figure what what everyone wants to fund and pioritize.
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
Also, @cryptochangements for your next funding round, we have about 0.22 BTC left in the donation address and I'll be topping up your crowdfunding with it when needed
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
Welp there that :joy:
:thumbsup:
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
We need a spot where there are open tasks for the volunteers to get work done.
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
That's a good idea.
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
I don't like the idea of an excel doc so something else besides that.
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Well if the community OKs it we could just use that fund instead of asking for individual donations for now
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
Easy to do a vote channel as well to get things like that figured out.
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
people had questions on how much MSR is left, I haven't looked at it since then but there should be about 12k MSR remaining, and in total about ~100k MSR has been dispersed to community members
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
thumbs up and thumbs down like we've done in the past.
cryptochangements06/29/2019
@BazookaJeff what happened to taigo/trello?
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
I am good with draining the dev account for future funding.
For now.
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
Can we multisig that wallet  then that's one issue done and dusted
cryptochangements06/29/2019
I agree multisig would be good
notthisguy06/29/2019
Is there anyone on blocktree development?
cryptochangements06/29/2019
@Dug Punk has been very vocal about that
@notthisguy currently, no
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
@cryptochangements It's still up. we can pin it to the volunteer channel so it gets more exposure.
I don't mind sharing access to it with some trusted members.
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
It seems the current idea is to get all the bugs fixed and everything smooth before going any further.
cryptochangements06/29/2019
@BazookaJeff ok cool
notthisguy06/29/2019
So when all wallet are fixed? Or no plan for that yet? How long implementing block tree can take approx?
cryptochangements06/29/2019
@notthisguy scroll up take a look at the dev recap I posted along with github. I've documented things I fixed and my priority lost for other bugs to fix
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
Also: do we need more developers for blocktree? I can't imagine only cc and gnock can get it done?
Just thinking ahead.
If you think you can, great! But it is a huge project.
cryptochangements06/29/2019
More developers would be a dream come true
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
@cryptochangements we can get the word out on the official Twitter.
Also, on a stickied getting started post on reddit.
JeuTheIdit06/29/2019
Okay, so we probably should be thinking about ways to get more developers then while cc and gnock are fixing things.
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
topics for sticked post: ask for more devs, what to do when starting out with MSR, how to reach out to marketing people for podcasts, etc.
notthisguy06/29/2019
@cryptochangements  I did, just wondering when blocktree dev could start, how long it could take and is doable with donations like now
cryptochangements06/29/2019
I'm not giving a timeframe on blocktree. It depends on too many variables we dont yet have figured out
@BazookaJeff cool, I think it would be good to first setup the taiga so that all open tasks are organized that a new dev could pick up
Dubz06/29/2019
1)    SECOR – Attack Vector, Miner Payments
2)    Wallet Issues – Mobile, Web, GUI (if not already addressed) – Exchanges are pointless without this
3)    Direction – Define realistic goals, timelines, and development team
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
I'll be working on Blocktree development when I have more free time, can't give an exact timeline. We didn't get as much feedback from the whitepaper as I'd have liked so what would likely happen is a first pass implementation that would be in an extended beta (testnet) as we try to break the protocol to find any potential flaws that need to be addressed
ph06/29/2019
RN I think that with your time constraints we should pivot in something else in the meantime
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
To that point, my first address would be the wallet bug some exchanges are facing if cc doesn't get to it first
are you referring to anything else?
notthisguy06/29/2019
Thanks for answers I'll definitely ask again when  bugs are fixed and things settled a bit as blocktree would be a game changer if its working, with upcomming alt season and it would actually get masari ahead of monero
ph06/29/2019
yea and also we can go forward with the other points of the roadmap
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
it seems like Medium changed some things, I can't find a way to nuke/reset a password but as long as somebody like @BazookaJeff has access to the marketing@getmasari.org email they would be able to sign in
@ph I would consider SPT as well, it's isolated enough that it wouldn't be too much of a pain to put Blocktree on top of it (would be mostly db schema related)
engr.tun06/29/2019
In addition to efforts we are putting into fixing things and planning future developments.. I think we should also explore ways how can we grow as community. Growing is number can only guarantee that we get more devs, contributors, meme-creators, traders and hodlers. Hence marketing is my #3 priority after wallet and exchange fixes.
perma06/29/2019
My 2 cents are: 1 fix bugs 2 marketing 3 marketing
camthegeek06/29/2019
@thaer <not asking for crypto> where do you want feedback from regarding blocktree WP? I'll throw it out to a few people
perma06/29/2019
When price recovers we can fund development
Without price we can throw money for nothing
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
@camthegeek anybody able to give technical feedback is welcome, and I'd be happy to discuss things with them
notthisguy06/29/2019
Is there anyone on marketing?
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
We have MSR engagement.
A group of guys that have diff backgrounds to get things done.
in conjunction with Tagia, we can get some marketing material out there.
ph06/29/2019
MSR engagement it's really a good idea imo
engr.tun06/29/2019
I think we need to make coordinated efforts to keep ANN and reddit active. ANN is the place people go to find new coins.
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
We can post updates there first and then post the links to reddit and Twitter.
That way, we get traffic to the ANN.
ph06/29/2019
I think bitcointalk is dead long ago, today people are on twitter/reddit mostly. But after all it's effortless put some updates on the ANN
just post the links
notthisguy06/29/2019
I can say that masari was under the radar for me for a long time, didn't hear much about it till it was like top 3 mining profitable for me
If I seen masari memes :smiley:  or roadmap or community I would definitely be here earlier
ph06/29/2019
yeah I know. Sad but true
from the marketing point of view we have been overtaken by a lot of crapcoins
notthisguy06/29/2019
Exactly
Many dead already
ph06/29/2019
oh yea
notthisguy06/29/2019
Did you try maybe get some deals with pool owners like cryptoknight?
Or at least add some more info on masari there
ph06/29/2019
I don't think we're on good terms with Cryptoknight lol
:pepegrin:
a little marketing on other discord channels wouldn't hurt though
olehansen06/29/2019
i'm an long time hodler, early in. Thaer brought someting new to the table. Don't loose the momentum now: fix bugs and make it work 100% on all exchanges. Masari may be one of the best coins on the market and will be easy to promote :smiley:
notthisguy06/29/2019
Didn't know msr is on war path with cryptoknight
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
great, we are crashing the price nicely :pepegrin:
Anomander06/29/2019
Any talk of new features?
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
yeah loads
Anomander06/29/2019
@Kafkathedog do you have a link?
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
working wallets and everything
notthisguy06/29/2019
Think it would be good idea to explain in simple way what is blocktree (I had to ask on telegram, cause name got interesting for me... Its not said it solves scalability issues) its hard for newcomer understand what this is about.. And if I didn't ask I would probably be gone mining/trading other coin.. You seem to hide all the gems
girugamesh06/29/2019
There should be a synopsis somewhere
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
@notthisguy we can get an article on the Taiga.
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
nothing's being hidden - to put it simply, think at every block of the blockchain, we create lets say 4 buckets/blocks instead to mine transactions in, in a way that they can be mined in parallel
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
We need a bounties channel.
funding avenue is great but it'd be nice to have both.
notthisguy06/29/2019
IMO technical talk should stay in tech documents, and for people visiting website, twitter etc it should be as easy as possible, couple words why its SOO good and important and then links to tech documents for that 5% of people who can actually understand tech documents
So it should be straight to the point, short, understandable for average crypto noob
Articles are nice but I think to make someone read it you need that person interested in masari already.. Tbh.. Who have time to read long article about another small market cap coin?
camthegeek06/29/2019
so explain all the things like you're 5. got it.
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
why not??
if you want interest you will have to get more people like me who are stupid..
notthisguy06/29/2019
For marketing I would say YES
@thaer <not asking for crypto>  I understand.. But let's say yore new..  you somehow came across masari.. Mining or volume on exchange for example.. So you probably check cmc and masari website.. Twitter/telegram pinned message.. Roadmap and you build your first impression based on what you see there
IMO I shouldn't be digging for info, it should hit me
camthegeek06/29/2019
I'm ill-equipped for any conversation right now as I'm quite busy doing some home office rebuilding.

As far as what I'm doing for Masari currently: the new Masari website is in the process of being done and is nearing completion. Things are laid out in a bit more readable fashion, looks like an actual project that may go somewhere, and doesn't use too much technical lingo on the landing page. I expect to have this done by end of next week, assuming I don't get slammed on the day job. A PR will be opened and anyone can pick at it and review. The way the site is built leaves it open to easily be modified by anyone, translatable into any language and there's probably a few other features I'm looking over because I stare at it daily.

I'll leave this image preview here. This is not the front page but a page that describes what Masari is. The writing was done by community members @JeuTheIdit and @Ghost  https://i.imgur.com/NEBzj0u.png (image preview removed, gotta click it sucka's!)
notthisguy06/29/2019
Things msr could be proud of
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
I'm not here to do marketing. I've come to resolve with that term personally and what it's definition is, and I'm not going to stop anybody from doing that, but marketing just isn't my strength and you're best with somebody else doing that. I'm more than happy to help with content, but I'd rather work on code in my free time over marketing presentation/slides/videos/etc.
notthisguy06/29/2019
No, no that's not I wanted to say, or give you more responsibilities.. Just tried to explain my point of view
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
I understand, and the point you made is valid
notthisguy06/29/2019
Thank you
Lodo06/29/2019
For the login to medium: you login to it with your "google" account details which is the marketing@getmasari.com & PW
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Do you guys know the password or does it have to be reset?
Lodo06/29/2019
Afaik that PW hasn't been changed in a long time
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Would you mind PMing it to me then?
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
hi all there was a mention of an ICO yesterday any more thoughts on that
camthegeek06/29/2019
I think that was a joke.
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
ok
is there anything we can do about the problem bots on TO any ideas
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
Bots are not the problem for the immediate future :Fffff:
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
so what direction is the community taking while the devs sort out the final problems and look at multisig
i noticed jonnys new additions today and i am hoping the new animation is not about cigarettes and alcohol as oasis has already done that
camthegeek06/29/2019
masari brews and bro's have been around for a very long time lol
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
ok lol
in future nobody is  allowed to demote anybody with out consensus at its a community decision now
you lot need a channel to argue with  yourself s then create one and hash any issues in private
it dose not look good to new guests
somebody dumped 18000 coins at 600 sats during the spat
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
the situation with RL has been ongoing for a while now and I have done my best to keep the peace despite the animosity that he was bringing in. Yesterday it got to the point where it was unreasonable to keep him as mod without risking an abuse of power.
I'd also like to note that this was discussed heavily in private and semi-privately (in a mod channel), with what was seen in #general only being a segment of it
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
i understand we may not see the full picture but its no longer your choice .we will vote if we are going to demote him..im sorry you can not through in the towel and still be in charge . its time for you to 100% deside what you want to do. me i am happy for you to come back and take the reigns and give us direction and instruction like you have not had before . there are a lot of people that love MSR and want it to have a bright future
we are here to support you @thaer <not asking for crypto>
girugamesh06/29/2019
As long as it doesn't affect the project itself, imo
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
I didn't throw in any towels and I still have a say in how things are run, you might not agree with my demoting him but I can't trust emotional instability, you would be on the other side of the fence if he went on a rampage deleting channels
girugamesh06/29/2019
There will always be affairs and drama
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
we didn't promote him either tho so....
@flyguyry_2.0
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
mate i have him ripping strips off me in the past i know what he is like
all i am trying to say is you can not have all the authority with out responsibility
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
well FWIW he doesn't want to be here anymore...
Johnny Gonzo06/29/2019
@notthisguy we are planning some graphics and animation to explain this. but we pushed it back to match the developments.
notthisguy06/29/2019
Would be great to have it
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
we may need the video for new direction we just have to deside what that is 1st
if we cant have blocktree then what can we have for the road map ?
MODs' what do you want and VIP's what would you like to see
notthisguy06/29/2019
Thaer said something about SPT, so that's probably first in que after wallet fixes
camthegeek06/29/2019
SPT depends on BT, IIRC
ph06/29/2019
ledger,spt,i/o
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
@thaer <not asking for crypto>   @cryptochangements  what is possible from above list  for implementation
cryptochangements06/29/2019
SPT doesnt depend on BT
camthegeek06/29/2019
ty
cleared that up for me :wink:
Lodo06/29/2019
SPT would be a great addition to the network imo. Scaling is necessitated by use
cryptochangements06/29/2019
i/o PoW I think should be removed from the roadmap
Gnock is already working on ledger with webwallet, I told him I'd look into it for CLI/GUI after I deal with more urgent issues
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
and blocktree until further progress is known . what can we give people
we all look at other coins what can we plagiarise from them
cryptochangements06/29/2019
I'd prefer to do something new rather than plagerize lol
I'll look into SPT but more urgent bugs need to be addressed first
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
sound wonderful lets have the light bulb moment between us right now
thats cool we now have a plan thank you CC
so we now have the funding for CC for how long ? with the 0.22 btc
maybe jonny could work  the animation regarding the launch implementation of SPT
what els would we need for SPT
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Dont get ahead of yourself. It will probably take a few weeks minimum before we even get there
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
thats cool i dont mind the wait as long as we know where we want to go
its called progress
SatoriNakamoto06/29/2019
imo something important that laymen like myself can do is to generate content. This includes tweeting, retweeting, making pictures and videos, mentions in social media etc. Spreading awareness. It's a slow process but I think that if we start now, the technical stuff that the coders are working on might be ready by the time we have a bigger audience. Secondly we need more exchanges. @thedawson13 sorry bro i only got 2 :sweat_smile:
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
is there anything we can do for bittrex to reconsider MSR
SatoriNakamoto06/29/2019
some newer members like @Ghost and @BMO-noire have generated some pretty sweet content and that's awesome to see, thank you guys
we can all work together and push it around the web
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
please no more dicks !!!
SatoriNakamoto06/29/2019
yea, of course @xiaomogwai is the man. i always think of him when i see dicks
or read something like "blah blah more dicks !!!"
if anyone makes something msr related and doesn't have twitter or reddit, just ping me here and I'll post it on MSR_engagement
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
a tweet channel would also be good so we can retweet it
SatoriNakamoto06/29/2019
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flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
cool lol
SatoriNakamoto06/29/2019
i recommend you stick with the official one @flyguyry_2.0  bro :joy:
thedawson1306/29/2019
Flyguy thaer does have responsibility for example having his name and face linked with the project and writing technical papers about new ideas and coding them. So your authority without responsibility comment is a bit off.
The theme that is emerging is building a system where everyone can contribute their strengths without impediment. That being said it shouldn't be a free for all either
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
if we have a big ball of string with people pulling in every direction we have nothing left in the middle  in no time at all forward consensuses is required for continuity
you cant just sit on the side lind and say no all the time
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
I think it's time to conclude this meeting, we're going quite off-topic at this point
please take it to another channel like #random or #general
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Agreed, though I'd like to finish by setting up a date/time for the next meeting
flyguyry_2.006/29/2019
thank you all for you time
cryptochangements06/29/2019
I think Saturday July 13 should be fine but I'd like to change the time to be a little earlier or a little later
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
I like this being biweekly, we can modify it later if we feel like it's too much/little - lets say July 13?
:thumbsup:
sounds good, July 13 then
BazookaJeff06/29/2019
I would like it to be a little earlier.
cryptochangements06/29/2019
How about 15:00 UTC?
One hour earlier?
I realize that's probably pretty early for Thaer in BC though. What is that like 8 or 9 am?
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
hopefully we don't go any earlier than that, it's at 8am for me
I can do 7am, but I might be a bit late depending on how I wake up
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Ok I'm good with 15h UTC, sorry T you're pretty much behind everybody else here :p
Kafkathedog06/29/2019
surely its bi-monthly.......runs and hides....:pepegrin:
camthegeek06/29/2019
Ends up being 11AM for me.. that's probably best as noon is often my busy hour
cryptochangements06/29/2019
Alright I guess we'll pencil in 15:00 UTC July 13 but we can change it if needed
thaer <not asking for crypto> pinned a message to this channel. See all the pins.06/29/2019
camthegeek06/29/2019
Let's also do a weekly reminder across all messaging/social mediums.
thaer <not asking for crypto>06/29/2019
sounds good to me
Dug Punk06/29/2019
Thanks @thaer <not asking for crypto>  for being so active during the meeting:grinning:
Dubz06/29/2019
My thoughts.  Thaer has been active on this for over 2.5 years.  CC is kicking ass and taking names.  Many developments have happened prior to this "need funding" mentality that seems to have developed over the past few months.  This blockchain "Dev tax" is a horrible idea (not trying to offend anyone).  Masari has had great accomplishments without funding.  We all should be thankful for the devs that work on this project regardless if it fits in with your timeline of getting rich.  Hearing this sense of entitlement from some  community members disheartens me.  Masari has always been known for its community and lately, well for lack of words, there seems to be a lot of bitching, arguing, etc...  I've always loved this project for it's transparency, initiative, and it's community.  People have lives outside of crypto and we have to give people space to live them.
Johnny Gonzo06/30/2019
@Dubz agree 1000%
flyguyry_2.0Yesterday at 2:59 AM
@thaer <not asking for crypto>  @cryptochangements  @gnock  Main block explorer certs are expired, certs for web wallet are expired . what can be done regarding the certs .thanks sean
cryptochangementsYesterday at 11:27 AM
Wait for gnock or spin up a new instance
flyguyry_2.0Yesterday at 11:40 AM
do you think we should just do a new web wallet now ?
BigSlimYesterday at 3:29 PM
@Dubz Many people that work on Crypto Projects outside Corporate backed ones typically do not work full time jobs and Crypto is their "hobby". When large amounts of people join a community in a short period of time for certain reasons or not, typically it seems they want progress right now to keep up with other projects they know about that have paid devs working full time. Smaller projects can not support this forward movement on the scale of those projects that have full time devs paid to do the work and thus funding platforms have been created either community backed or blockchain tax backed. As many people have said, they do not have the time to work on a project because it does not make financial sense to do so with other commitments they are paid for and still require time. I myself do not believe any type of dev tax, dev fee, premine, hidden dev funds, funds locked for devs after a certain height are an acceptable part of decentralized blockchain platforms. One can not be upset for those working hard to be paid for their work and this is why I support community funding pages. Let the community decide who is paid for what work so long as the operator is decentralized.