breaking ICs notes

Breaking the ICs

Ep 1:
Belay

Stage 1
Startup (Belay 1-4)
Nana behaves normally, Popo starts up. Neither have invul

Stage 2
Popo prepares to throw Nana (Belay 5-16)
Nana intangible, but not invulnerable on 5 (as in, she's just not there at all, not 'dmg and KB cancelled'. Like a spotdodge)
Popo completely vulnerable, no hitbox
Hitting Popo here, there's a chance of getting Nana with consecutive frame

Stage 3
Nana launches from 17-28
AUDIO CUE!!! (Intangible -> Invulnerable)
Falling belay and rising belay are different. Popo carries his vertical momentum
Falling version seems to go higher?

Stage 4
Frame 29
Second audio cue
Starts to catch up to Nana
After he passes her, stays above her

Stage 5
Frame 60
Enters special fall
Vulnerable + no hitbox
Vertical hammer, enters special fall

APPLICATION:


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Ep 2:

CONNECTED
Receives player input
(In 20xx:
DEVELOP ON
X+ dpad up
R + dpad left x 3)

YELLOW
1. Input delay (6 frame)
2. Popoforce
Every frame that Nana is connected, regardless of ground or air, the force pulls her towards her to Popo
**NOTE**: This ONLY happens if they're connected
3. Forced same facing (swivel): Game checks for Nana facing direction every frame, and puts her in the same direction as Popo was facing 5f before.
Not usually observed until actions chosen.

Sync vs Desync both happen during "Connected" state, and the 6f delay still applies, just that she's in a different state than Popo was before,
so she reacts to the same inputs differently and can do "different things" from Popo

BETWEEN STATE

Two special connection
1. Squall hammer (within 1 climber's vertical length)
2. Belay (a little less than FoD floor + top plat length, so much greater)

Teeter prevents connection


To connect:
1. Both climbers must be on the ground
Not at same floor or height, just floor period
2. Must be in connection distance (BF vs YS platform has enough vertical difference(!)
3. Momentum values must be similar
Simplest case is Popo dash dances and keeps running, with Nana running at Popo attempting to connect.

If Popo wavedashes in opposite direction, she won't connect
If Popo stays stationary after dashing , she'll spend a few runbrake frames catching up
If Popo matches velocity with another short (timed) dash, short wavedash or walk, she'll connect

DISCONNECTED
Receives AI input
1 AI level for every 20% Popo takes
Doesn't receive any inputs from player
Starts stock as disconnected

GREEN
"Trying to connect"
Level independent
Dash, run, jump to reach
Nana targets a horizontal position, not Popo's exact location
Nana's "target" tracks floor

MAGENTA
"Waiting to connect"
Once she reaches specific range of her target (Popo or otherwise(!!))
Entirely idle
Reached her goal, hoping to fulfill connection conditions
Must be grounded to be magenta

BLACK
"Hitlag"
Higher Popo percents = more likely to have wacky DI/SDI inputs
She doesn't receive any inputs from player (!!) So all DI is hers and hers alone
Can't enter red mode

WHITE
"Offstage, recovering"
Generally targets edge of stage
Aerial drift + double jumps towards it
If Popo's on a platform and she's recovering to him, sometimes she'll transition to green mode
Important bc she never attacks out of a white mode recovery
Nana exact DJ is predictable! DJ when she's on the same horizontal plane as Popo
Prioritizes Randall on Yoshi's

RED
"Attack"
Green or magenta mode Nana transitions into red mode, and the red mode/attack range is determined by her hitboxes
She will "maybe" attack those ranges, with likelihood + variety changing w level
Possible for there to be timing mixups in red mode since it's all probabilistic
Won't spotdodge but will roll (same range as her jab, so she'll always roll point blank if she does)
If none of her maybe boxes are intersected, she'll transition to green or magenta based on distance from chase target

Lower the level, lower strength of attack
Level 0 - mostly jabs
Level 3 - gets ability to use blizzrd
Level 4 - aerials
Level 6 - grab activated

By avoiding connection conditions, she can be disconnected as long as player wishes

Can create many openings based on the connection conditions + disconnection/connection states

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Ep 3

Avoid targeting Nana unless
1. Both performing an action
2. Both in air
3. Popo is far enough away that he can't reach you

This prevents getting punished during hitlag when punishing Nana's perceived vulnerability (eg DD, blizzard)
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Ep 4

Pressing shield before hitlag = hitlag adds onto the frames before you land
So even if you land the frame after you hit the move, if you pressed shield before, it doesn't register
If you press during hitlag, it'll count the hitlag frames as a single frame in the L cancel window

Hitlag cases
1. No hitlag (whiff)
2. Single hitlag
Can occur when you hit two climbers, just need to hit them on same frame (e.g. when they're stuck together)
3. Double hitlag
Hit one climber, finish your hitlag, and hit the other climber after and register in hitlag again.
In this situation, just spam L cancel inputs (so L + Z)
3. Extended hitlag
Hit one climber, other climber gets hit by same move while you're in that first hitlag
Attacker's additional hitlag is set to the greater of compared values between potential additional hitlag from same climber
vs. "new" hitlag from other climber.


1. Same frame = same as hitting one
2. Do your best to delay if you're going to hit 2 targets (whether double or delayed) OR just spam it

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Ep 5

States where Nana can't be interrupted with belay/squall despite being in the range

If he's in range, he can cancel out of ground movement, jumping, normals (eg smash/jab/aerials)


1.Specials (IB, blizzard)
Cannot interrupt IB or blizzard
Can't cancel belay with another until f39
Nana can't belay or squall independently

2. Shield and shield related
Guard on/guard off
Roll
spotdodge
Missfoot (sliding off platform backwards from push off)

3. Grab (including Nana whiff grab, holding or throwing, Nana being held or thrown by opponent, and grab break)

4. Hitlag, hitstun, tumble and tech

5. Pass/teeter
(Dropping through platform = pass)
Teeter = lol

SQUALL EXTRA NOTES
Squall range much much smaller
Squall can't sync Nana out of normals or ledge getup options (which belay can cancel)