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Trumpism as anti-Christianity; the lack of grace of Sara_Ks

JaysonSunshine
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  1. 6:58:42 PM→ LowInformationSeraph has joined
  2. 6:58:45 PMⓘ Profound set mode +v LowInformationSeraph
  3. 6:59:29 PM+barabbas`RazorBack Thats because they are acting like Nazi's, in lock step with Trump regardless of the inhumane things he is doing with families at the border...
  4. 6:59:56 PM+barabbas`Not sure we need to go after them, other than to vote them out of office.
  5. 7:01:48 PM+TrollTScuttling distraction
  6. 7:01:52 PM+barabbas`Most of the time extreme examples are useful to get people to take a serious look at a situation. IF you bring up an extreme, the person or group you are talking about are somewhere between the center and the extreme.
  7. 7:01:55 PM+TrollTSara!!
  8. 7:02:04 PM+TrollTYou derailed the conversation with jelly donut!
  9. 7:02:17 PM+TrollTDebate scuttled.
  10. 7:02:36 PM+TrollTMaybe next time.
  11. 7:02:49 PM+barabbas`RazorBack I guess you didn't bother reading what I posted. I did NOT CALL THEM NAZI's.
  12. 7:03:33 PM+barabbas`RazorBack Or, maybe I assumed you knew what a similie is. Perhaps that is the problem.
  13. 7:04:02 PM+TrollTEvery time i go down in an elevator.
  14. 7:04:14 PM+barabbas`RazorBack I said they are ACTING LIKE, notice the word LIKE in my statement, Being LIKE something does NOT mean YOU ARE that thing.
  15. 7:04:29 PM+TrollTGodwin
  16. 7:04:39 PM+LowInformationSeraphbarabbas`: RazorBack probably doesn't really care.
  17. 7:04:41 PM+TrollTI like that response, it holds a ton of value to me.
  18. 7:05:02 PM+TrollTIt's the equivalent of "Eject! Abandon ship!"
  19. 7:05:05 PM+LowInformationSeraphPerhaps he's a Christian Nationalist, like most American Christians, who want to separate babies from their parents.
  20. 7:05:29 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrollT: What are you claiming about Godwin?
  21. 7:05:37 PM+TrollTLOL
  22. 7:05:51 PM+TrollTNo claims needed.
  23. 7:06:04 PM* barabbas` says when it comes to Trump, Here is what we know for sure, Trump is a LIAR, he said he would build a wall and MEXICO would pay for it, Trump is a THUG, he is using ICE LIKE his personal gestapo to rip babies from the arms of mothers, then he demands a 25-billion-dollar ransom from the American people to reunite these babies with their mothers, so he can pay for his wall. All
  24. 7:06:04 PM* barabbas` of thee things are the actions of a BULLY. Question is, why does anyone continue to support him? <---
  25. 7:06:04 PM+LowInformationSeraph"Godwin"
  26. 7:06:05 PM+TrollTDebate scuttled.
  27. 7:06:08 PM+LowInformationSeraphWhat does it mean.
  28. 7:06:26 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrump hates Christ.
  29. 7:06:32 PM+TrollTpyxe, So far.
  30. 7:06:34 PM+LowInformationSeraphAnd every single Trump supporter hates Christ, too.
  31. 7:06:43 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrump or Christ: Choose one.
  32. 7:07:02 PM+TrollTFalse dichotomy?
  33. 7:07:38 PM+LowInformationSeraph"Godwin"
  34. 7:07:43 PM+LowInformationSeraphWhat did you mean?
  35. 7:08:01 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrollT: The action of supporting Trump is an action of hating Christ.
  36. 7:08:22 PM+LowInformationSeraphJesus said that Trump will burn in hell forever for the actions against these families.
  37. 7:08:26 PM+LowInformationSeraphIt's a direct quote from the Gospels.
  38. 7:08:33 PM+TrollT<Akonyte> the theory that as an online discussion
  39. 7:08:33 PM+TrollT+progresses, it becomes inevitable that someone or
  40. 7:08:33 PM+TrollT+something will eventually be compared to Adolf Hitler
  41. 7:08:33 PM+TrollT+or the Nazis, regardless of the original topic.
  42. 7:08:48 PM+LowInformationSeraphIf you support Trump ripping apart families, you will burn in hell forever -- according to Christ.
  43. 7:09:00 PM+LowInformationSeraphChrist said, what you do to the least of us, you do to me.
  44. 7:09:17 PM+barabbas`RazorBack I didn't call Trump supporters Nazi's. However, if using the vehicle of Nazi in a similie to describe the heineous acts of Trump and to call attention to those who do support him, I don't see a problem with using similies and metaphors and other literary devices to get a point accross.
  45. 7:09:19 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrollT: I am familiar with the definition of Godwin's Heuristic.
  46. 7:09:36 PM+LowInformationSeraphGodwin specifically said it's fine to compare certain elements to Nazis, post election of Trump.
  47. 7:09:41 PM+LowInformationSeraphI have a citation, naturally.
  48. 7:09:56 PM+barabbas`RazorBack Do you think we should refrain from similies and metaphors etc? Are they to complex for you?
  49. 7:09:56 PM+LowInformationSeraphbarabbas`: Many of Trump supporters are Nazis.
  50. 7:10:10 PM+TrollTLIFS, Sounds good. Insofar as people go to extremes in contention about it i claim Godwin as an extreme and bail on the conversation.
  51. 7:10:20 PM+LowInformationSeraphhttps://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/
  52. 7:10:34 PM+TrollTIt's a fun shorthand.
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  54. 7:10:50 PMⓘ Profound set mode +v ma^trix
  55. 7:10:54 PM+barabbas`LowInformationSeraph Thats a different topic. I wouldn't say they are Nazi's, However Neo Nazis and other White Supremists groups do support him, But that isn't the sum total of his support.
  56. 7:10:55 PM+LowInformationSeraphThis was written by Dorothy Thompson, after observing Nazis in the 1930s.
  57. 7:11:01 PM+LowInformationSeraphbarabbas`: They are Nazis.
  58. 7:11:04 PM+LowInformationSeraphMany of them.
  59. 7:11:14 PM+LowInformationSeraphI'm using the framework of Dorothy Thompson.
  60. 7:11:25 PM+LowInformationSeraphhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Thompson
  61. 7:11:31 PM+LowInformationSeraphDorothy Celene Thompson (9 July 1893 – 30 January 1961) was an American journalist and radio broadcaster, who in 1939 was recognized by Time magazine as the second most influential woman in America next to Eleanor Roosevelt.[1] She is notable as the first American journalist to be expelled from Nazi Germany in 1934 and as one of the few women news commentators on radio during the 1930s.[2] She is regarded by some as the "First Lady of American Journalism."[3]
  62. 7:11:56 PM+LowInformationSeraphIt's not specific policies or background that make a person a Nazi, she concludes.
  63. 7:11:59 PM+LowInformationSeraphIt's lack of empathy.
  64. 7:12:01 PM+barabbas`LowInformationSeraph Again, some are, some may be acting like Nazis in various forms. If they are in Lock step behind him, sure, that is a nazi like attitude.
  65. 7:12:09 PM+LowInformationSeraphAnybody can become a Nazi, including Jews, as long as they have very low empathy.
  66. 7:12:25 PM→ TheRealShaw has joined
  67. 7:12:26 PM+LowInformationSeraphbarabbas`: You're not going far enough.
  68. 7:12:28 PMⓘ Profound set mode +v TheRealShaw
  69. 7:12:42 PM+barabbas`LowInformationSeraph I go as far a the evidence allows
  70. 7:12:44 PM+LowInformationSeraphbarabbas`: Most people conceptualize political variation as primary -- she's a Nazi, he's a liberal, and he's conservative.
  71. 7:13:05 PM+LowInformationSeraphHowever, starting in the 1990s, it was discovered in cognitive neuroscience that political views are derived from a general cognitive orientation.
  72. 7:13:17 PM+LowInformationSeraphAnd that general cognitive orientation can be probed with just a few questions on parenting, for example.
  73. 7:13:19 PM* barabbas` notes the childish stupidzone mugz is operating in.
  74. 7:13:34 PM+LowInformationSeraphNazism was, historically, a political movement in one country.
  75. 7:14:16 PM+LowInformationSeraphI'm using it as a label for the underlying cognitive orientation that blossomed into the NSDAP in the 1920s, but which is blossoming into Trumpism in the 2010s.
  76. 7:14:34 PM+LowInformationSeraphThe cognitive orientation, just as Dorothy Thompson noted in the 1930s, is much more important than any particular political party.
  77. 7:14:34 PMⓘ ma^trix is now known as FakeNewsCherub
  78. 7:14:42 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrump supporters have all the cognitive patterns of Nazism.
  79. 7:15:30 PM+LowInformationSeraph2/3 of Trump supporters support child kidnapping and child trafficking by the American government.
  80. 7:15:47 PM+LowInformationSeraphSeparating a child from their parent is much, much worse than raping that child.
  81. 7:16:25 PM+LowInformationSeraphIf you were to inform a parent, in a warzone for example, they have a choice: Their child will be raped, or they will be kidnapped forever, almost all parents would choose the rape.
  82. 7:16:25 PM+FakeNewsCherubYes, 2/3 is not all.
  83. 7:17:01 PM+LowInformationSeraphFakeNewsCherub: 100% of Trump supporters hate Christ.
  84. 7:17:07 PM+LowInformationSeraphBut only 2/3 of them support child kidnapping.
  85. 7:17:17 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrump is an anti-Christ.
  86. 7:17:28 PM+LowInformationSeraphTrump is the opposite of Christ in every regard possible.
  87. 7:17:44 PM+LowInformationSeraphIn every moment, every thought, every emotion that results in "I support Trump", in that moment, you hate Christ.
  88. 7:17:54 PM+LowInformationSeraphIf you stop supporting Trump a few minutes later, you are not necessarily hating Christ any longer.
  89. 7:18:10 PM+FakeNewsCherubNIMBY as an orientation is AntiChrist
  90. 7:18:32 PM← pyxelated has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  91. 7:18:38 PM+FakeNewsCherubI have 7/16ths of Dalnet in my PM list
  92. 7:18:42 PM Ignoring FakeNewsCherub!*@*
  93. 7:19:00 PM Stopped ignoring FakeNewsCherub!*@*
  94. 7:19:09 PM+LowInformationSeraphWhat is a Christ like attitude towards immigration?
  95. 7:19:11 PM→ pyxelated has joined
  96. 7:19:13 PMⓘ Profound set mode +v pyxelated
  97. 7:19:14 PM+LowInformationSeraph"It's an act of love" - Jeb Bush
  98. 7:19:21 PM+LowInformationSeraphAnd how did GOP voters feel about that quote?
  99. 7:19:23 PM+FakeNewsCherubThe federal government has no meaningful mechanism by which to reunite children with their families after detention
  100. 7:19:24 PM⚠ Disconnected from the IRC network
  101. 7:19:24 PMⓘ [KILL] koala!DALnet!Sara_Ks (Ban evasion)
  102. 7:19:24 PMClosing Link: 50-255-225-132-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net LowInformationSeraph (Killed (Sara_Ks (Ban evasion)))
  103. 7:19:24 PM⚠ Disconnected from the IRC network
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