15:46 <gooch1niner>  so you are very high up is that what that means
15:47 <lie4karma>  i didnt censor it for you i saved it for someone else
15:47 <lie4karma>  yea
15:47 <lie4karma>  which is only an honorary degree anyway
15:47 <lie4karma>  and open to the public
15:47 <lie4karma>  LOL
15:48 <lie4karma>  im also the CnC for the 32nd degree masons for all of edmonton
15:48 <lie4karma>  commander and chief
15:48 <gooch1niner>  i was hoping it was more illuminati than that
15:51 <gooch1niner>  that sounds like a lot of responsibility if you dont get to do any mkultra shit
15:53 <gooch1niner>  what r the perks
15:56 <lie4karma>  it provides a method to take good men and make them better
15:58 <gooch1niner>  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c
16:00 <lie4karma>  which is why we have such a turnover rate
16:00 <lie4karma>  peopl ethink its something its not
16:00 <lie4karma>  so they join and then quit
16:02 <gooch1niner>  there is probably an echelon you dont know about that is doing psyop shit still though
16:05 <lie4karma>  it doesnt work like that lol
16:05 <lie4karma>  so here is how it works.
16:05 <lie4karma>  freemasonry is made up of exactly 3 degrees
16:05 <lie4karma>  however
16:05 <lie4karma>  once you are a third degree
16:05 <lie4karma>  you gain the ability to join other groups that are made up of only masons
16:06 <lie4karma>  im sure you have heard of the shriners
16:06 <lie4karma>  they are all masons
16:06 <lie4karma>  but not all masons are shriners
16:06 <gooch1niner>  right
16:07 <lie4karma>  so the two most popular things to join after your first three degrees are:
16:07 <lie4karma>  the scottish rite 4-32
16:07 <lie4karma>  or the york rite
16:07 <gooch1niner>  and then there is the echelon you dont know about that does mind control and you would never know about it because you dont go through normal channels
16:07 <lie4karma>  lol i would know about it
16:08 <lie4karma>  because i know all the masons in the city
16:08 <lie4karma>  and I know all the "important ones"
16:08 <lie4karma>  and lets just say... 80 year olds are more worried abotu making it to the next meeting than trying to control shit
16:08 <lie4karma>  the average age is over 60 man LOL
16:08 <lie4karma>  the average age of a 33rd has to be over 654
16:08 <lie4karma>  65
16:08 <gooch1niner>  hahaha
16:08 <lie4karma>  i would know
16:09 <gooch1niner>  no im saying that your entire organization which you know as the masons is a smokescreen for their actual operations
16:09 <gooch1niner>  hiding in plain sight
16:09 <lie4karma>  lol yes but what im saying is if that was true.... id see the people being funneled through masonry to the secret group
16:09 <lie4karma>  and i dont see that
16:09 <lie4karma>  because it doesnt exsit
16:09 <lie4karma>  i mean we are open about the shitty things we have done
16:10 <lie4karma>  we did have a lodge called p2 which is where the illuminate thing comes from.
16:10 <lie4karma>  we shut them down as soon as we found out about it