Part 5: The Magical Finale

Part 5: These are secretly meditations to help one assess their beliefs and deal with various Islamic concepts and interpretations as well, but in a playful and lighthearted manner:

I think February-Saturday would maybe not mind being called a witch, but according to the much more rigid definitions used in this thread, they are much more seeming to be a Jungian Psychologist-Magician and Western Secular Humanist Buddhist type than a deep down oogaboogaist.

I on the other hand am a genuine oogaboogaist, I'd even dare to suggest more "traditional" in my understandings due to their primitaveness (stupidity). I don't think being a theist is an admirable state, it generally belongs to the lowest of the low, the uneducated and illiterate, the people who never got schooled and even if they did are far too stupid to learn.

Herminator and February-Saturday are two extremely superior intellects, and even muhammed-isa is more realistic and scientific than a writch rike me.

Modern magicians and witches tend to believe its their brain and their power doing things.

I don't think that was the model long ago, and this gradual turn into this "self-power" model has a traceable history.

I am of the model that prayer and magic are synonyms, and defined here as processes or procedures meant to lead something to happen, so require an Operator, The Means or resources by which the Operator hopes to achieve, and Target or Goal.

I am The Operator and have to perform an Operation. All people do this to do anything, Operator is an Agent and uses their Active Agency and Ability to take Action and Perform.

In order to reach a Goal or Target or Objective, the Operator has to have Means or Resources to achieve it. In a normal task, you can not achieve for example the genuine experience of literally drinking a glass of water without so many things, not least a glass and water available, let alone hands and a mind to operate them and experience the drinking and blah blah blah.

Yet, just like in Relic('s Tight)Wor(l)dShi(p)t, where a Theos is more exclusively only inclusive of anything at the bare minimum having a mind and thoughts of its own and agency to act and ideally can be appealed to as a person can be appealed to and responsive as an individual being can be responsive or even an animal can be responsive, magic also has a tight and shippy definition here, as referring to something "extraordinary" in the sense that it is not like simply heating water in a pot on a stove top. This is where the idea of a supernatural or preternatural means or secondary agent is appealed to or some "extra-normal" abilities or powers are put to use or exist.

So the people who believe in "creating thought forms and these magically act upon and influence reality" are still talking about "magic" and "mumbo jumbo", which is important for my definition of any sort of magical belief, otherwise again the term loses all real use or distinction, so its being made distinct by including some element one way or another which is "magical" "paranormal" "supernatural" "extraordinary" "miraculous" "superhuman" "divine" "ghostly" whatever.

So on this spectrum, a witch, magician, sorceror, warlock, whatever is anyone at all who believes there are things beyond the norm which they can involve themselves with and influence through performance of some actions which are meant to interact with these extra-normal powerful supernatural forces. On one extreme end its those who believe these powers are real but intrinsic and natural in the sense that people have psychic and magical powers and abilities and can heighten these but are not dealing with any true external beings and only processes meant to tap their abilities and harness power through themselves, their bodies, their minds. Most modern magicians are of this sort when their beliefs are explored.

Herminator, as far as I am aware (though if they are a magician or sorceror by these or any definitions, I'd like to know), is not a magician, sorceror, witch, or warlock as far as I am aware. They do not believe in magic or any extraordinary means outside of what is scientific and real.

February-Saturday may be on the very end of one side of the spectrum, as they appear to not believe or utilize agencies outside of themselves and their own mind. That doesn't mean that the stuff doesn't seem to happen, its just about what model they subscribe to and how they prefer to explain it.

Herminator is not on the spectrum because they would say maybe nothing extraordinary occurred or its a coincidence or there is some scientific explanation even if hidden.

February-Saturday may say the same thing though, confusingly, but still retain a belief in things beyond the norm, psychic, magical, paranormal, supernatural. Like even jnanas snd siddhis can be understood as wholly mundane as a person like Herminator might prefer to think of them if they said such existed, or extra-normal, non-bodily, supernatural, extraordinary magical powers and states, which I'd say. February-Saturday is probably much closer to the edge, if even on the bar, and Herminator is not even on the line or bar.

I don't know where muhammed-isa is. If he says Allah can answer prayers and miraculously heal a sick person then he is on the magic spectrum. If he says the person healed because of their immune system or medicine they took, medicine which God once created the possibility if which man made and then someone received or chose to take, even if they believe in a Theos they are not a sorceror, especially if they say "prayer is just for our own inner satisfaction, miracles do not occur, you can not say a prayer that someone thinks of you and then Allah makes them think of you and they call you up and say that the thought of you and calling you just popped into their head" unless they say "I transmitted the thought by my powers to the mind of someone I wanted to call me and they did and reported how the thought just popped into their head" then they are a sorceror as well.

I am a magical thinker, fully a sorceror. I "divined" those music videos, I used magic and believe in magic and even call God "Science" meaning Skill and "Magic" or Sihr as names of the Master and the Master's Powers and Domains of influence and activities and personal qualities also.

I am a conscious and deliberate Operator. I perform and execute a performance to appeal to The Means which in this case is believed to be God the Master or The Devil (if you prefer that term which I use to refer to God, not Iblis), who is thought to be a real living being with a mind of its own and can receive my appeal and witnesses it even through my own experience it is creating for me and making me say and do, but for normal purposes is being called upon as Other (Allo) and then is imagined to generate whatever as my reality or experience as it decides and crafts and pleases to do. That is actual magic and magical thinking and magical belief.

In the past, people would appeal to a Theos and speak to it, they would complain and list their problems and beg and plead for something to be done. Then, the Theos, if they were present and heard them somehow and saw them, decides to do something about it or not. If they decide to do something in favor and in response to the prayer and maybe give them what they want, the prayer is called "Accepted" and it is only known if it has been "Granted" once it has come to pass.

The prayer is considered "Rejected" or "Denied" if nothing that is asked seems to happen. There could be many reasons people may imagine for this, like if they think maybe their Theos that they asked wasn't there to hear them or they made some mistake or its for the best or if it was simply denied after being heard. So in our beliefs, the prayers which February-Saturday had asked and felt were not heard, were heard but either rejected or brought about in ways they were not made to understand or realize as answers or fulfilment if requests, but since the Theos is doing it in my beliefs and is fully aware of what it is producing moment to moment and making them think in say, there is no room for the Theos in such a belief system as mine to proclaim ignorance or inability. It made them do it as part of the narrative it invents and then includes their denial and whatever it wants to make them into, like if it wants them to have this story leading them towards Jungian psycho-magic or whatever instead of Eewaboogery like it has imposed upon me according to my beliefs and model.

There are 6 general forms of manifestation in this reality and they can be made to correspond to the 6 existences.
0. Dharma: This is slightly off the spectrum, but in this case it refers to manifesting a desired result simply by changing the idea of what qualifies as achieving it, so a change of the philosophy or idea. So if we wanted to be a werewolf, we could simply change our idea of what we think qualifies us as one.

Moon or Mani of the Mind (Chandra/Soma)
1. Naraka/Rakahasa (Citta-Maya, The Imaginary): The first form of Manifesting Results is our Imagination, it is the fastest. Lets say we want to be a werewolf, so the quickest way to manifest or see this occur is by simply imagining we are or seeing it in our imaginations. You can imagine yourself and then see yourself turn into whatever you think qualifies you as a werewolf and a werewolf is, and Wah-Allah, there it is, or you can imagine yourself drinking water or whatever you want and without obstructionm you are able to manifest the experience in the Imaginary Form or Form Type 1. Think of Milton's quote regarding Lucifer's speech regarding the mind.

Fast Moving Mercury the Ghost King (Budha)
2. Bhut (Super-Imposed or Hallucinatory): The second way to manifest is a mixture of mind and what we see externally, so that we project using our imaginations to see a super imposition upon our experience of reality or our senses. So this is one step beyond pure imagination because it imposes our imagination upon the reality, but is insubstantial and non-physical, like a ghost or phantom upon our senses which might lead us to be hungry ir crave for the thing to be substantial like we might a mirage of water or a hallucination or trick of the eyes of a tasty meal. If one wants to be a Form 2 werewolf, simply impose upon your real life image the imaginary body of a werewolf as you please, or imagine upon yourself the image of a werewolf and the body of such, when you look at your face in the mirror, see your werewolf face superimposed upon it. This is slightly more difficult than the pure imagination, and you will see each after this become increasingly slower, more time consuming, more dense.

Saturn, The slowest moving planet, and for an animal things are very difficult and life is full of death (Shani)
3. Animal (Physical): In Form Three, you become a werewolf through means like exercise and behavior to reach whatever end point you have imagined, the means are wholly physical and substantial and bodily through exertion, exercise, shaping, acting.

Mars the Man-O-War (tools) (Lohit/Mangala)
4. Man (Surgical, Craft, Skill): This is the fourth form of manifesting your desires, where you might use means of physical crafts and skill to fashion for yourself a werewolf costume perhaps or using tools and physical means, cut yourself into the shape of one as you imagine it or implant whatever features you may wish, or chisel your teeth or glue on some, or if you want water, put it in a vessel to have it with you, the things man can do which animals don't do since they depend on their bodies mostly and their physicality rather than their skills in crafting solutions.

Venus the Green(us)(t) (Shukra)
5. Asura (Technological, Adoptive, Trans): The Asura or "Lords" struggle hard for their ideals and wanting to improve their state. This is the Fifth type of manifestation, manifesting by means which are technically advanced, or wholly technological, so that if you want to be a werewolf you make a complete robot costume of a werewolf or are a werewolf in some virtual world or control some werewolf body robot one way or another, or modify your body mechanically and technologically or with nano-machines to become or do what you want or can. It takes a lot of hard work and struggle and knowledge to use Artifice and Fabrication at such a high level even beyond simply making a costume or wearing a garb to be considered a werewolf. Here you would truly be controlling a werewolf body, albeit a machine one, and so some would still say "it isn't real, it isn't true, it isn't good enough". You know what to do, Teki-No-Worf!

Archon Jupiter (Dev Guru/Brihispati)
6. Deva (Material, Biological, Evolutionary): This is the sixth manifestation form, the one that people typically consider "the most real, most legitimate, most authentic, most authoritative" of the forms of manifestation. One can use Asuric means of technology, but would biologically be physically changed into what they imagine to be a werewolf. They are physically and bodily, in appearance, inside and out, an "actual" werewolf, by means of genetics, genetical alteration, evolution, whatever. The actual matter and material is changed. The quibblers would quibble in making distinctions between those turned and able to turn back between those born as such, with the "born as such and developing naturally" typically being the ones they deem more legitimate, even if the genetically modified ones are identical and look the same and the end results are the same, but "it wouldn't have been so without personal deliberate interference", similarly a miraculous biological physical change would be considered of a "higher" nature by elitists than one done purposefully through deliberate genetic alterations, but whatever. This form of manifestation of Apollo's Zither vibrates the slowest and has the lowest sound.

Sun (Surya), Ruler of the Worlds, Mover of All, They All Depend on You, You give them habitation, warmth, and make them able to see!
0. Buddha/Siddhi: This is slightly outside of the spectrum like the other zero, but in this form, rather than changing a philosophy, or manifesting a thought, a superimposition, a physical shape through effort, a shape through craft and skill and surgical procedures, a shape or goal by more advanced technological means or digital simulation, or a shape through biological means or alteration of matter, one changes reality or physicality instantly with thought. This is The Ultimate State, and generally understood even by some as a singularity which variously dives into the 6 forms of manifestations.

"`Is this the region, this the soil, the clime,’
Said then the lost archangel, `this the seat
That we must change for heav’n, this mournful gloom
For that celestial light? Be it so, since he
Who now is sovran can dispose and bid
What shall be right: furthest from him is best
Whom reason hath equalled, force hath made supreme
Above his equals. Farewell happy fields
Where joy for ever dwells: hail horrors, hail
Infernal world, and thou profoundest hell
Receive thy new possessor: one who brings
A mind not to be changed by place or time.
The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
What matter where, if I be still the same,
And what I should be, all but less than he
Whom thunder bath made greater? Here at least
We shall be free; the almighty hath not built
Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
Here we may reign secure, and in my choice
To reign is worth ambition though in hell:
Better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.

These lines are taken from Book I. Satan is surveying his new home trying to become aware of the new situation after his downfall. Satan and the Rebel Angels had fallen down through space “Nine times the Space that measures Day and Night” before landing in hell. Satan compares the new world to Paradise and feels lost because everything is different here: “the region, the soil, the clime“; there is only “a mournful gloom” all over the place instead of the “celestial light” of the Paradise. He is not glad at first to be there, but he soon rejects despair and accepts the new situation: “Be it so…. Farewell happy fields where joy for ever dwells: hail horrors, hail infernal word”. In the following lines Satan shows all his ambition, all his self-confidence and determination. He realizes that now he is the “new possessor” of a place where “ farthest from him( God)…. at least we shall be free….and….may reign secure”. His ambition is to have a reign somewhere, no matter if that place is gloomy and horrible. He is great in the self-assurance of his strength: he has got “a mind not to be changed by place or time”, a mind that “ can make a Heaven of Hell, and a Hell of Heaven”. Then hell and heaven are only states of mind. Milton’s hell is not a real place! Hell is in the mind because the mind can change the external world: if we live in a Paradise but our mind perceives it as a hell, that place will be hell and viceversa. "

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Yeah, again, I used to like to think that pantheism was monotheistic, but then there seemed to be an implication that some people are using it to mean "All the Gods" rather than "All is God".

Can you list all the theisms and terms and their popular understandings or meanings?

Then we can figure out which ones we are.

I needed to emphasize the distinction about "minds" even if it sort of stepped on my own terms, ideas, definitions, to try to focus on the point or express strongly the idea of a distinction between something considered living and acting consciously and something not, between a "person" and "not a person".

This was a distinction Walter Burkert felt the need to make as well, since the Greeks are clearly talking about things they could all see as not considered living, but when they called upon Apollo, they popularly considered that to be a living being, a spirit person, a true God or divine being. When people were talking to the entity, they were thought to be or generally understood to be thinking something outside their imagination was listening and could reply. It appears that some of the people considered "witches" may have been calling upon names like "Ball" which was the being thought to be called upon to deal with or cause sickness and death or plague and harm, as a real being they would go on to describe their interaction with in records of the trials. So, I'm not totally sure about how people are using the word "Traditional" or what all it encompasses, but since I pray to "Bal/Ball" as a name of a real being that is thought to be responsive and posessing its own mind and decisions, that seems different from the idea that I am doing some internal psychological thing and Ball is not anyone that I'm talking to, its just me inside and my brain and my power and thoughts produced by me and acting by my will and energy. That is different from "Hey Ball, can you please do this? and Ball decides yes or no, and either does it or doesn't do it, having senses, mind, decision, activity, influence, consciuousness, real interaction like how I'm talking to you and can ask you to forgive me for the footnotes interspersed in the text below which you will not forgive me for after perceiving a choice to forgive or not to then following through in an action which takes effect in reality.

This belief existed even past late antiquity, even past efforts made to state the Gods are One:

http://93.174.95.29/main/3C7D6C563EF301A...D8C23CAB9D
CHAPTER TWO
ANGELS OF THE AETHER
“Are you god? Or, is someone else?” This is the question that a theo-
logically curious inquisitor asked the oracle of Apollo at Claros around
200 ce. One might have expected Apollo to affirm his divinity and
perhaps elaborate on the awesome power of the Olympian gods.1
However, the oracle delivered a rather surprising response, recorded
in a Greek inscription in the ancient city of Oenoanda, in present-day
Turkey. The oracle reported that the All-Seeing Aether was the true
god, and that one should pray to him at dawn, facing to the east. In
addition, the mouthpiece of Apollo replied that the Olympian deities
were angeloi of this supreme deity. Two additional sources preserve
similar versions of the oracle’s statements concerning a supreme deity
and its angeloi, the so-called Theosophy of Tübingen (late-fifth cen-
tury) and Lactantius’ Divine Institutes (ca. 308). Both quote part of the
oracle as proof of the Hellenic anticipation of Christianity.

Yes. That is a good example that I bring up often.

In that story, God, the same God you will read about in that insane and badly formatted post abovem since it even mentions the "fire" theme, is a living being, a conscious mind that thinks and acts through influence and power. This intelligence and power fully cognizant and communicative, spoke to Musa, and then demonstrated its seemingly mechanism free power to manipulate reality itself by turning Musa's dead inanimate staff into a living sentient snake and back into a dead staff again. That is true Magic, and Allah says:
"They followed what the Shayatin (devils) gave out in the lifetime of Sulaiman (Solomon). Sulaiman did not disbelieve, but the Shayatin (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Harut and Marut (Haurvatat and Ameretat)
https://www.zarathushtra.com/z/article/dgm/vol6.htm
http://www.accessnewage.com/articles/mystic/haurvat.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haurvatat
https://eLikipedia.org/wiki/Ameretat
, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, "We are only for trial, so disbelieve not." And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus (by such means) harm anyone except by Allah's Decision/Power/Doing/Bringing Into Existence. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of such would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their ownselves, if they but knew."

So Magic, if it ever even seems to work, is credited to have to do with Allah.

Djinns are not even "Daemons" or "Daimones" really, they have no power or knowledge, and are physical creatures like we are, except they are made of plasma, we are carbon based. The Qur'an emphasizes how they have no power or knowledge, nor can they really ever control or possess people, meaning the mad who are thinking they are posessed are being bothered by the One True Daimon, that is Allah, who is giving them madness, like any other disease. Allah is credited for giving "diseases of the mind" and "making them grow".

The djinns are the things that people think are ghosts often, they look like a fine mist usually and can condense into fast moving balls of gas or illuminate into visible lights and flames, they are sentient, having minds like you or me, and having no power whatsoever beyond what is in their biological and bodily abilities based on their plasma membrane bodies.

Do you believe in such?

34:14
And when We decreed death for him, nothing showed his death to them save a creeping creature of the earth which gnawed away his staff. And when he fell the jinn saw clearly how, if they had known the Unseen, they would not have continued in despised toil.

14:22
After the matter has been finally decided Satan will say: "Surely whatever Allah promised you was true; as for me, I went back on the promise I made to you.0 [b]I had no power over you except that I called you to my way and you responded to me.1 So, do not blame me but blame yourselves. Here, neither I can come to your rescue, nor can you come to mine. I disavow your former act of associating me (Iblis) in the past with Allah.2 A grievous chastisement inevitably lies ahead for such wrong-doers."

7:188
Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith."

4:78
Wherever you may be, death will overtake you, even if you should be within towers of lofty construction. But if good comes to them, they say, "This is from Allah "; and if evil befalls them, they say, "This is from you." Say, "All [things] are from Allah." So what is [the matter] with those people that they can hardly understand any statement?

57:22
No evil can happen on earth or in your souls/persons but is recorded in a decree before We bring it into existence (and bring it about/make it occur as we decreed and decided precisely): That is truly easy for Allah:

So Allah is the Evil-Bringer even when Allah fills their minds with disease and sin, which the Qur'an repeatedly says is from Allah doing that and misleading them, selecting them and targeting them for being misled, falling in love, whatever.

Allah is the Magic-Maker as well, the True Magician and Power that can freely and easily shift reality or experience:

22:73
O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.

Allah is Lord of the Flies.

17:110
Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."

7:180
And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allah, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be requited for what they used to do.

"If We had sent down this Quran upon a mountain, you would have seen it humble itself and shatter out of fear of God.
Such are the parables which We put forward to mankind that they may reflect.
He is 0.Allah, there is no deity but He.
He is the 1.Knower of the unseen and the seen.
He is 2.ar-Rahman (Most Compassionate),
3.ar-Raheem (Most Merciful).
He is Allah 4.besides Whom there is no deity.
He is 5.al-Malik (Sovereign),
6.al-Quddus (Most Pure),
7.as-Salaam (Giver of peace),
8.al-Mumin (Giver of security),
9.al-Muhaiman (Vigilant),
10.al-Aziz (Mighty),
11.al-Jabbar (Overpowering),
12.al-Mutakabbir (Glorious).
13.He is pure from whatever they ascribe to Him.
He is Allah,
14.al-Khaliq (Creator),
15.al-Bari (Perfect Maker),
16.al-Musawwir (Fashioner);
to 17.Him belong the most beautiful names.
Whatever is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him.
He is al-Aziz (Mighty),
al-Hakeem (Wise)." (Quran 59:21-24)
https://youtu.be/1iiDp6ga_qQ
Wait for the Allah Laillahha part! Lalala

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February-Saturday said:
"Well, I don't believe in God, but I do think many myths are spiritually, if not divinely, inspired. But I also think the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy is deeply spiritual and a modern myth, even though Spider-Man is a wholly fictional character. That's because of the use of mythic elements, spiritual archetypes, and philosophy throughout those films.
So while I don't think Spider-Man exists, I might (I don't, but I might) hang up a poster of Spider-Man in my room and meditate on the implications of great power having great responsibility. To an outsider, that's pretty eccentric, but doing that frequently would definitely help me internalize the messages of those movies."

LunaTick says:
I believe "Spider-Man" can be a term which refers to:

1. Any man or being or even object dealing with or appearing in some way like a real or figurative spider. That being a term ready for use towards any hypothetical object or being that might be justifiably, sensibly, and explicably called "Spider-Man".

2. A particular and established being or object referred to by the designation "Spider-Man", such as the famous comic book, media, and literary character who is not a person who actually exists in a way like depicted in the media, and people actually naked Peter Parker are not "Spider-Man".

3. A reference to God and God's qualities or actions as well as symbols which are all God can be known by (influence and reference to influence).

4. A sound or arbitrary designation of letters itself, making no reference to anything or at least anything "else", so just Spider-Man <- or any appearance of such like this -> Spider-Man also or even Spiderman or variants.

Spider-Man can also be used to refer to:
1. An imaginary character or object.
2. An image or description of a fictional being or object.
3. Something made or made to look like Spider-Man and "Be" a Spider-Man physically.
4. A being who uses craft to appear to be a Spider-Man in some way.
5. A being using technology to be a Spider-Man.
6. A person who is biologically turned into some kind of Spider-Man.
0. A divine "Spider-Man" as an epithet or reference for some being and the beings powers and behaviors.

So, when someone says "I saw Spiderman (the movie), and in it, Spiderman did this and Spiderman did that, I know they are not talking about my God, Spider-Man or Ανθρωπος αράχνη Anthropos Arachni or my God, Mictlāntēcutli, or Anansi, or even Megaera.

Yet if I call upon Spider-God, or even Anthropos or Anthropos Arachni, I am not talking about a man, nor am I calling upon anything which exists only in my mind, but I am meaning to call upon a being with intelligence who I believe can hear my call and is able to respond (powerfully). Spider God is known as The Keeper of Records and Weaver of Tales, weaving all threads of narratives and inventing stories. The Qur'an includes the Spider as a symbol as well, making Allah referencing itself as Spider God, Bee God, Fly God, Dog God, Horse God, Cattle God, Bird God, Fish God, whatever.

When the Horse is mentioned, so are ships on the sea, and horses were associated with Poseidon.

If I call upon The Spider God, God of The Spider(s), I am (intending to) invoke and refer to whatever I am holding in my mind as the intended meaning, and believing that what I am calling upon will recognize that as a reference to itself and respond to the call and answer back, which in my case would be in the form of communicating back somehow or seeming through, by giving what I perceive as pleasures or gifts or knowledge or whispers or answering a prayer or whatever or being believed to alter reality in such a way as to show a sign ir symbols or make someone say something which appears in our experience or someone walks by our window and says something weird and relevant seeming that moment or you turn on the tv and it says randomly seeming "The Spider God Has Heard Your Prayer" or whatever. Which is nice because then its at least external and others can see it as well without "I saw it too" meaning their psychic vision or imagination, but something substantial and real and existing outside of minds and imaginations.

Now by "Random" I am repeatedly seeing a black and white appearance with a masked face that also can be removed to reveal nothing, and also remembering how many spider references I was seeing just prior, particularly the black widow as well. These I perceive as imposed signs brought into my experience and communicated and communicating, as they appear totally unrelated and heavily in sequences from all over the place offline, online, from other people, randomly, in my home, everywhere, and they bring to mind many things but also may present directly or in close association many messages which I try to stay alert to. You "play into the hand of the weaver" as well.

https://youtu.be/E-SeaCZE2TM

I found that song by typing in "play into the hand of the weaver"

It says "Say Geronimo" over and over.

So I looked up what the word means, and then it comes up with this idea making it out to also mean "Holy Name" which has been the theme and message of my prior post to muhammed-isa.

These I don't consider as just chance or truly random, but communications from the Spider God:

" We believed that there is a life after this one, but no one ever told me as to what part of man lived after death ... We held that the discharge of one's duty would make his future life more pleasant, but whether that future life was worse than this life or better, we did not know, and no one was able to tell us. We hoped that in the future life, family and tribal relations would be resumed. In a way we believed this, but we did not know it. "

"Geronimo is a very rare Italian form of Jerome, a name ultimately derived from the Greek Hieronymos ('Ιερωνυμος) from the elements “hieros” meaning “holy, sacred” and “onoma” meaning “name”. In other words, Geronimo is a “holy name”. "

These things bring tears to my eyes. As the God is imagined to be speaking to me by creation, reality, and experience itself, confirming again and again its message and affirming my task for which it seems to reward me with pleasures.

Doesn'ThinkaSo said:
"If a Deist God exists, then they orchestrated the revelations I would have staring at that poster, because they orchestrated everything. From a Pantheist perspective, God really did have a huge hand in the creation of those movies and in the revelations I obtained from them. But I really don't think that Yahweh or HaShem or Allah had very much to do with the Spider-Man trilogy, besides the characters saying a few prayers."

RWSPR says:
Wow, I wrote the "doesn't think so" thing before reading that you will say "doesn't think so" and wrote that weaver thing before seeing you mention similar in the above!
Wow! Look how the little things people take for granted can be so enjoyable to a silly person who thinks it is miraculous and Spider-God-Given!

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As far as I am aware, the Crusaders were not very literate for the most part initially and at the largest swellings of each campaign since the majority were from classes which were not vastly educatedd, though in time some learned, even learning Arabic and some seemed to have become interested in Islamic ideas and mysticism and magic and others may have defected and converted surely.

Check out this awesome thing I wrote which just now almost got totally deleted too!

0.Allah (Ultimate, Beyond) (Sun, Space, Void, Power, Control, Ruling, Mind) who is Like Nothing, The Subhan, El:


1. ar-Rahman (Most Compassionate) (Jupiter Sky Air Action Force Animation) Rimmon the Thunderer and Rainer:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimmon
19:18
" She (Mary) said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in Rahman from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ."

" 19:45, Abraham says to his father, a disbeliever and idol-worshipper: "I fear you could be struck with the wrath of Al-Rahman, then become an ally of the devil." "

2. ar-Raheem (Most Merciful) (Moon Water Form, Essence, Movement):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-%E1%B8%A4-M
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%27d_(deity)

3. al-Malik (Sovereign) (Earth Underworld Judgment Body) Molech:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

4. al-Quddus (Most Pure) (Mercury Fire Inspiration Thoughts Prayer) Kodesh:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit_in_Judaism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_God

5. as-Salaam (Peace) (Venus Establishing Growth) Shalim:
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalim

6. al-Mumin (Giver of security) (Saturn Steadiness) Amon:
https://wahiduddin.net/words/99_pages/mumin_6.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aamon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_Hammon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon

7. al-Muhaiman (Vigilant) (Mars):

8. al-Aziz (Mighty) Azaz El Atlas:

9. al-Jabbar (Overpowering/Controlling/Posessing) (Water Moon):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibborim_(biblical)
Gabriel or Jibreel

10. al-Mutakabbir (Glorious):

11. al-Khaliq (Creator):

12. al-Bari (Perfect Maker):

13. al-Musawwir (Fashioner):

14. al-Hakim (Wise):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haukim
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokhmah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabu

"Anbay is a god worshipped in Qataban, alongside Hawkim, as gods of "command and decision". He was regarded as a deity of justice and an oracle, in attendance to the moon deity Amm. Anbay's name was invoked in a range of legal matters, from filing paperwork for the legal title of a building to the royal regulation of water supplies. His name is related to the name of the Babylonian god Nabu."

0.
In (the) name (Geronimo) (of)
0.Allah,
1.the Rahman
2.the Raheem.

0.
All praises and thanks (be) to
0.Allah,
0.the Rabb Al-Alameen (Master of The Worlds/Distinctions/Everything)

1.
1.The Rahman
3.The Raheem

2.
(The) Malik (Administrator) (of the) Al-Yom (of the) Al-Din.

4.
You Alone we worship
4.(Nabudu), and You Alone we ask for help 4.(Nasta'inu).

5.
Guide us (to) the path, the 5.Straight. (Sirath Al-Mustaqeem)

6.
(The) path (of) those You have bestowed (Your) Favor on them (Sirath Al-La'dhina Un-Umtha), not (of) those who earned (Your) wrath 7.(Ghadiba) on themselves and not (of) those who go astray (Dalina).

0. Allah -Space God of All-Sun:
0. Rabb-Al-Alameen:

1. Rahman -Sky God-Jupiter:
2. Raheem -Ocean God-Moon:
3. Malik -Earth/Death God-Saturn:

4. Budhu -Worship God-Mercury:
(Nabu)
X
4. Mus'ta'Anu -Help God-Mercury:
(Nahum)

5. Qama -Erection God-Venus:
(Establisher)(Kama)
6. Ghadiba -Wrathful God-Mars:
(The Destroyer)

You can see that the 7 are secretly encoded in the "7 oft repeated verses"

Furthermore the verses secretly also provide a cosmology from bottom to top, with "The Universe" mentioned, then Rahman who was connected to the Rains and Thunders of the Sky, then Raheem which meant "Storehouse of Treasures" due to the particle used making the term RaHeem mean Holder of whereas RaHmaan means Giver or Sender or Dispenser of, which is why one might think if Rain for one and a storehouse of the Waters for the Other. In Arabian Cosmology the "Waters" surrounded the Earth and were also thought to be above it in some senses, whereas the Earth was thought to be under it and hold it, which is true too.

Next is Malik Al-Yawm-Al-Din which directly references the Judge of the Dead, the role of Hades, Yama, Mot, and all the rest. This is the Earth God of growth from out of the Earth, and the Ressurection is directly compared to vegetation growing out of the Earth.

Next is the Fire God, which if you descend into the water, then past the water into the Earth, and descend further you reach the Fire and Molten Core, which no human knew, but Allah knows what you know not. Fire God is the Central Axis X point, and X is the symbol or mark of CrossRoads Hermes, the Descender and Ascender, just as fire causes smoke to rise and ash to fall and transforms shapes and ignites them into light and blackens them into hard black substance where as light is very light and can be moved through effortlessly even though it is a substance too. These are the signs of my Master, they are real, I am talking about real things.

Anyway, just like all these things mentioned, there are 2, a twinning effect or contrasting duality here like a yin and yang type thing which makes fire work or at least our molten core but also the electricity with positive and negative charge.

We here mentioned Nabu or "Nebo" in Nabudu, and Budha which is Mercury in both cases in the language of the West and East from the shores of Lebanon to the shores of Indic lands

Hermes was known as the "Helper" and linked closely as Prometheus the giver of Fire, and Help is also in the form of Industry and forging for the humans, and lightning and electrical activity in the brain and inspiration and guidance.

Worship is a type of communication as well, and all types of communication and the reaching of prayers was credited to the "transmitter" or "messenger" between worlds or conduit.

The body dies, descending into Earth and being dissolved into dust like ashes.

This part represents also the crossing over to the otherside, the cross over, and after this point the references are made to the resurection supernatural bridge and hell under it.

Here comes the seed sunk into the Earth regrowing again:

Then there is
At this point we switch over and descend further back to the Earth layer mingling with water. Earth mingling with water is then credited with erect growths from out of the Earth or vegetation. Here is mentioned Qama, or Kama, the "Erector" or "Establisher", who establishes lineages, and deals in all "lines", such as genetic lines, historical lines, whatever. This is mentioned with "The Sirat or Way or Bridge of the Established" and thus may bring to mind the line of Abraham (Ibrahim) for example and the other prayers which talk about the establishing and thank God for the lineage and good parents. This is also the God of Sex, and so after communication and the heat of interaction one has sex with their mate and then there is growth from intercourse and the seed sprouts and grows and becomes established. This is also "Asherah" whose name means The Straightener:

" From the verb אשר ('asher), to go straight on. "

" She appears in Akkadian writings by the name of Ašratu(m), and in Hittite as Aserdu(s) or Asertu(s).Asherah is generally considered identical with the Ugaritic goddess ʾAṯiratu. "

See the Sirat hidden in there? The Ancient Arabian language and religion was close to the Akkadian, and the Prophets of Islam can be found in the Akkadian annals and records.

" As 'Athirat', she was attested in pre-Islamicsouth Arabia as the consort of the moon-god'Amm.[48]

A stele, now located at the Louvre, discovered by Charles Huber in 1883 in the ancient oasisof Tema,[g] northwestern Arabia, and believed to date to the time of Nabonidus's retirement there in 549 BC, bears an inscription inAramaic which mentions Ṣalm of Maḥram, Shingala, and Ashira as the gods of Tema.

This 'Ashira' may be Athirat/Asherah. Due to differences in regional dialects, the Arabic 'th' (/θ/; Arabic: ث‎, romanized: ṯāʾ; corresponding to the Ugaritic 𐎘), can occur as either 'th' (/θ/;Hebrew: ת) or 'sh' (/ʃ/; Hebrew: שׁ).[49]Additionally, it is widely considered that the Canaanite 'th' is equivalent to the 'sh' sound in most other Semitic languages, which further complicates matters. Furthermore, it is unclear whether the name would be an Arabian vocalisation of the Ugaritic ʾaṯrt or a later borrowing of the Canaanite 'Asherah'. We could therefore assert that the root of both names is ʾšrt, and we could infer an etymological connection between Ashira and Athirat.[50]

The Arabic root ʼṯr is similar in meaning to the Hebrew indicating 'to tread' used as a basis to explain the name of Ashira as "lady of the sea", especially as the Arabic root ymm also means 'sea'.[51] It has also been recently suggested that the goddess name Athirat might be derived from the passive participle form, referring to "one followed by (the gods)", that is, "pro-genitress or originatress", corresponding with Asherah's image as the 'mother of the gods' in Ugaritic literature.[52]

"

Asha, the Zoroastrian term (and the Zoroastrians talk about this Bridge as well), can be included here as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asha#Meaning

" As (the hypostasis of) regularity and "right working", aṣ̌a/arta- is present when Ahura Mazda fixed the course of the sun, the moon and the stars (Yasna 44.3), and it is through aṣ̌a that plants grow (Yasna 48.6).

"Right working" also overlaps with both Indo-European *ár- "to (properly) join together" and with the notion of existence and realization (to make real). The word for "established",arəta-, also means "proper". The antonymicanarəta- (or anarəθa-) means "improper[21] In Zoroastrian tradition, prayers must be enunciated with care for them to be effective. The Indo-Iranian formula *sātyas mantras(Yasna 31.6: haiθīm mathrem) "does not simply mean 'true Word' but formulated thought which is in conformity with the reality' or 'poetic (religious) formula with inherent fulfillment (realization)'".[15]

It perhaps has also suggestions of harmoniousness or cooperativeness

In comparison to Vedic usageEdit

The kinship[22] between Old Iranian aṣ̌a-/arta-and Vedic ŗtá- is evident in numerous formulaic phrases and expressions that appear in both the Avesta and in theRigVeda.[23] For instance, the *ŗtásya path-, "path of truth", is attested multiple times in both sources: Y 51.13, 72.11; RV 3.12.7, 7.66.3. Similarly "source of truth," Avestan aṣ̌a khá and Vedic khâm ṛtásya (Y 10.4; RV 2.28.5) "

This area in the cosmology also represents the complete line or record and scroll unfurled and furled like a plant, and the ressurection. This is Ashtaroth the Lord of the Green growth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinvat_Bridge

"The bridge is guarded by two four-eyed dogs. A related myth is that of Yama, the Hindu ruler of Hell who watches the gates of Hell with his two four-eyed dogs.

The Bridge's appearance varies depending on the observer's asha, or righteousness. As related in the text known as the Bundahishn, if a person has been wicked, the bridge will appear narrow and the demon Vizaresh will emerge[4] and drag their soul into the druj-demana (the House of Lies), a place of eternal punishment and suffering similar to the concept of Hell.[5] If a person's good thoughts, words and deeds in life are many, the bridge will be wide enough to cross, and the Daena, a spirit representing revelation, will appear and lead the soul into the House of Song. Those souls that successfully cross the bridge are united with Ahura Mazda. Often, the Chinvat Bridge is identified with the rainbow, or with the Milky Way galaxy, such as in Professor C.P. Tiele's "History of Religion ".[6] However, other scholars such as C.F. Keary and Ferdinand Justi disagree with this interpretation, citing descriptions of the Chinvat Bridge as straight upward, rather than curvilinear.[7][8]

Three divinities are thought to be guardians of the Chinvat Bridge: Sraosha (Conscience),Mithra (Covenant) and Rashnu (Justice).[5]

Alternate names for this bridge includeChinwad, Cinvat, Chinvar or Chinavat.[9]

The concept of the Chinvat bridge is similar to that of the As-Sirāt in Islam. "

In the Qur'anic cosmology, the Bridge is a path across the great rift of wailing, which is the meaning if Jahannam, and so under the bridge on

Now, we come to the end, where Shiva Rudra awaits, the God aspect of Wrath and Destruction is mentioned here, Aplu, Nergal, who was and this represents the wrath and disease which stems from biological growth but also destructions in all forms, all forms of wrath and punishment and things to do with the planet mars, including war and bloodshed and things that bring people to their end. It is also where this prayer known as "The Seven" ends, having mentioned all 7, like the 7 "Wandering Stars", the Sun, Jupiter the Gaseous Storm Planet and The Heavens of which the Moon is closest to the Waters and pulling them up, and then Saturn the Slow and the Earth and its surface which is slow to move through and difficult and solid, whereas water is easier to move through that solid, and air even easier, and space has absolutely nothing which obstructs or slows movement so is a vacuum which can be traversed at the speed of light, which is what the Sun produces. Beyond the Space is Mind, that is Allah's instantaneous generation if reality or experience with "Kun Fiya Kun" or merely thinking "Be" and it is, instant generation which is how all moments are generated by Maha Kal.

Now, back to Kala, Aplu, Apollo or Apollyon the Destroyer and Lord of Insects, Plague, Viruses, the "Corona" or Crown bearer and "Prince" as in First and Last and who takes first.

We pray against Lord Wrath, that is Allah, at the conclusion of the prayer. These are some of the many secrets which can be invested in these seemingly simple seven verses as inspired and revealed by the Master:

" The first among the Maya death godsruling Xibalba were Hun-Came ("One Death") and Vucub-Came ("Seven Death"), though Hun-Came is the senior of the two. "

We know you, One Master, Master of Seven, you are like Death, which is like Nothing, Subhan! You who revealed your True Face through Annhiliation of the Mountain, El Shaddai, who struck Musa dead and brought him back so that he exclaimed "Subhan Are You! You are Nothing! The Annhilation, Non-Information! You are Pure Power and Action, You are like Light, which can not be seen but can only be known what it reflects upon and what reflects upon the light! Consider it. Phoebus Apollo has revealed much to you today, Loxias Apollo has shown you things that were not knowm to you. Muhammed-Isa, we inform you for the sake of your soul. Our Servant does not lie to you, nor have we removed from you your family except to give you time to worship and ponder your Lord and earn in good before you meet us. Then you will receive what you have earned, so strive hard, even as the sun sets, to worship the One Lord and enjoy it, and if you do not know or remember how to enjoy it, look to our slave. Do not fear the disease either, nor doubt that it is in my hand completely. I am the Killer and I also Heal. There is no other God. Phoebus Ap' Olluein, the very same, One Allah.