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- timewalker01/13 20:36
- it's better to try to get proof now, since we get bonus cos we got 2nd for the great war
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:37
- how battle bonus influences drop rate?
- timewalker01/13 20:37
- it doesn't actually it only makes your exp mulitply by 5 if you are levelling up your units
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:37
- or does it influences only exp gain?
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:38
- oh nice tnx for info
- timewalker01/13 20:38
- however some players believe it's easier to get proofs if there is battle bonus remaining.
- timewalker01/13 20:38
- sure
- •†RenoA†•01/13 20:39
- >,>
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:39
- 1 more rare unit and i have a full company of uniques ^^
- timewalker01/13 20:40
- do not summon your rare until you can get 4 of it, it takes up space and it isn't usefuil till you get 4 of the unique rares and can make it into a third class job.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:40
- now is - beira, tyr, grin and freya.
- timewalker01/13 20:41
- you can summon super rares like tyr and freya but avoid summoning rares like grin or beira unless you have 4 of them or it's taking up unnecessary space,.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:41
- they change at rank 5? oh didnt know
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:42
- well ill keep it mind.
- timewalker01/13 20:42
- beira and grin change at rank 3, to 3rd jobs, beira 3rd job is called elf princess, grin is desperado, and they are better than 5 star cos it's a third job class.
- timewalker01/13 20:43
- beira unite with beira and grin unite with grin to rank up .
- timewalker01/13 20:43
- hi renoa, how's everything ?
- •†RenoA†•01/13 20:43
- just got back from school >,>
- timewalker01/13 20:44
- oh ok :)
- •†RenoA†•01/13 20:44
- cool ur main is here :p
- timewalker01/13 20:44
- i will be here for a bit training my units, perhaps still sautrday
- •†RenoA†•01/13 20:46
- im getting too mch bloodline while training here..
- timewalker01/13 20:47
- very good, blooline adds 0.2 bonus to the stats
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:47
- blame it on the event
- timewalker01/13 20:47
- or 20 percent. to the particular stats, some say bloodline eats into other stats to give 20 percent bonus to a certain stats, i do not have any proof if it does or it doesn't
- •†RenoA†•01/13 20:49
- what skill for shooter?
- timewalker01/13 20:50
- since you have a heim, i will go for counter shot III and range boost
- timewalker01/13 20:51
- or block III and countershot II
- timewalker01/13 20:52
- some goes for paralyze III and range boost, but i think paralyze III
- timewalker01/13 20:53
- you could try range boost and paralyze III...
- •†RenoA†•01/13 20:53
- where to get paralyze? :V
- timewalker01/13 20:54
- chapter 4 the great criminal aurvangr, the top left node
- timewalker01/13 20:55
- it's very easy cos shooter is usually blank in skill, so you can level up shooter to max level barbarian to max level and combine them to get range boost and paralyze
- timewalker01/13 20:55
- so effectively you onky need 1 barbarain proof and it's 100 percent
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:57
- if i try to get paralyze to tyr, but instead of critical it swaps divine power, can i still learnd DP with tyr?
- timewalker01/13 20:57
- make sure to make shooter learn range boost first, and barbarian to learn paralyze before you unite them
- timewalker01/13 20:58
- you can always learn super rare units initial skills, it will never be lost.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:58
- oh good
- timewalker01/13 20:58
- if you learn paralyze, you can swap one other skill with what you want.
- timewalker01/13 20:59
- but for rares like grin or beira or borgilds, they can only learn the 2nd job class skill that they are from, for beira is counterspoell, for grin it's block
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 20:59
- tyr with range boost is stupid idea?
- timewalker01/13 21:00
- it's not a good idea, vic, cos it has the longest range.
- timewalker01/13 21:00
- try paralyze III and critical skill, you should love it
- timewalker01/13 21:01
- tyr can only attack in a straight line by the way , and if your teammate is blocking it can't attack
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:01
- can it ride a horse?
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:01
- i noticed)
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:01
- i mean can tyr ride any rhein?
- timewalker01/13 21:01
- think of tyr as spear with 5 range,
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:02
- dunno, dont have bird to ckeck
- timewalker01/13 21:02
- i am not sure if it can rides, but if it rides, only rein's skill will replace the 2 skills of tyr, i think it might not be worth it
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:02
- he counters 100%?
- timewalker01/13 21:03
- if you are forsaking critical III and paralyze III for rein's double attack etc, it's not worth it
- timewalker01/13 21:03
- yes it's 100 percent counter only if the person attacking it is in a straight line.
- timewalker01/13 21:03
- cos tyr cannot attack diagonally
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:04
- just wanna see it riding rheins.. *personal fetish* :v
- timewalker01/13 21:04
- or if you want something crazy for tyr, go for block III and paralyze III, heim will all die to it
- timewalker01/13 21:04
- it's not difficult to make a rein, one day u can feed 8 times
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:04
- btw magical library / adventurer inn is it worth it to get one?
- timewalker01/13 21:05
- magical library + 10 percent exp, adventure inn + i am not sure the + item drop
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:05
- both need many ether to up them
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:06
- 10% exp? even in explore?
- timewalker01/13 21:06
- nope only in battle
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:06
- btw when guild gets +20 item drop skill?
- timewalker01/13 21:06
- level 2 is + 20 percent and so forth
- timewalker01/13 21:07
- i was planning to give it +5 defence first.
- timewalker01/13 21:07
- proofs drop rate = 2 percent, + 20 percent = 2.4 percent only
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:07
- new Assistant > Heimdallr on settings >,>
- timewalker01/13 21:07
- +5 defence is to magical defence and physical defence
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:07
- still better than 2 ^^
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:08
- ill just go for the stats then >,< to improve TS when leveld
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:08
- at double rate - its 4.8 instead of 4
- timewalker01/13 21:08
- up to you guys, i can put +20 percent item drop when the guild levels up but with regards to duel, great war and boss fight, will have to take a penlalty
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:09
- :v need crystal ring
- timewalker01/13 21:09
- if it's consensus on item drop 20 percent, i will raise it when the guild goes up 1 level
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:09
- well if democracy is in place - make a poll^^
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:10
- ok crystal ring it is.. going to vote whoever gives me one :p
- timewalker01/13 21:10
- renoa, you are a deputy here, how about you ask the more active members opinions on what they want and i will give +5 defence or +20 percent item drop
- Ichigo01/13 21:11
- I'm with whatever decision you guys make.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:11
- message all to vote)
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:11
- im with ichigo :p
- Ichigo01/13 21:11
- We used to be based off a presidential candidate representing Democracy.
- timewalker01/13 21:11
- what does ichigo want ? + 20 percent
- Ichigo01/13 21:12
- It does help to message people.
- timewalker01/13 21:12
- up to all of you, i will give what all of you want.
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:12
- im not good with voting.. wanna ask 3eyeddonald instead?
- Ichigo01/13 21:12
- Idk what you guys are talking about tbh...
- timewalker01/13 21:12
- as deputy you can check what is our guild level now.
- Ichigo01/13 21:12
- 3eyes is muted.
- timewalker01/13 21:12
- lol
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:12
- btw if we conqier a place with item drop building, it even more proofs for us
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:13
- too bad.. if its voting campaign he's always active :v
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:13
- xD
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:13
- its mostly on luck on drops >,> id prefer on def i think
- timewalker01/13 21:13
- ok i will promote viceatskiwi now to a deputy , you guys decide what you want .
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:14
- 36runs = 1 proof drop on me (T_T)
- Ichigo01/13 21:14
- Well the GM muted him for campaigning in the first place.
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:14
- my brother xiax = 30runs = 22 proofs -_-
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:15
- omg
- Ichigo01/13 21:15
- Runs on what? Where do you guys go?
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:15
- chitor!
- timewalker01/13 21:15
- well luck is a bit different, i am not so lucky when i was in wysteria
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:15
- hes switching > axe>elf>ranger>spear>sword>bishop
- timewalker01/13 21:16
- but i will do what you guys want do a +20 percent item drop and good luck hunting proofs
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:16
- hope proof can be traded in shop -_-
- timewalker01/13 21:16
- contribution points, and it can't be traded, sorry :)
- timewalker01/13 21:17
- it is to prevent multi accounts from more cheating.
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:17
- :v
- •†RenoA†•01/13 21:17
- its called strategy
- Ichigo01/13 21:17
- Same. In one week of being here, I got more GW proof of glories
- Ichigo01/13 21:18
- than when I was in Wysteria. :v
- timewalker01/13 21:18
- well i could do it as well, i told admin that can i have 1 account for pathing, 1 account for sabotaging and 1 account for attacking and defending in great war, i don't think they want me to do it, lol
- timewalker01/13 21:20
- but i did ask them since artemis says it's alright to multiplay so i ask admin if i have their permission to do that.,
- timewalker01/13 21:21
- sadly they say they will take serious action to stop it, so i have no permission to do that.
- timewalker01/13 21:24
- yes it's easier to get proof of glories here, because usually they will put lodging with the strong guilds .
- timewalker01/13 21:24
- it is a lot hjarder to get proof of glories in wysteria.
- timewalker01/13 21:27
- that time when i was in wysteria sometimes after 40 fights then i get a proof.
- timewalker01/13 21:27
- even with 20 percent drop.
- timewalker01/13 21:28
- proofs are really easier if there's douvle drop event so usually players don't level up, they just go for proofs.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:38
- does critical I differs in damage from critical III?
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:38
- or just trigger rate
- timewalker01/13 21:38
- trigger rate is different
- timewalker01/13 21:39
- https://translate.google.com.sg/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://seesaawiki.jp/ein-herjar2/d/%25C2%25E8%25B8%25DE%25BE%25CF&prev=search
- timewalker01/13 21:40
- have a good in depth look at this guide, it talks about a lot of things, from unity , monster taming, skill's trigger rate and damage rate, and all super rare maximum initial stats which is excellent to know for unity
- Imythedralle01/13 21:41
- ʕㅎ_ㅎ ʔっ)´ζ`;ʔ
- timewalker01/13 21:42
- it also talks about what you can get from exploration.. runes to summon rare can be found on 3rd and 4th floor advance of exploration like beira, eric, silf etc etc
- Ichigo01/13 21:43
- ヽ(#゚Д゚)ノ┌┛Σ(ノ´Д`)ノ
- Imythedralle01/13 21:43
- Dodge~ =͟͟͞͞ʕ•̀=͟͟͞͞ʕ•̀▿•́=͟͟͞͞ʕ•̀▿•́ʔ=͟͟͞͞ʕ•̀▿•
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:43
- i got once roskva from 3d middle floor
- Imythedralle01/13 21:43
- shakes head ʕ・_・ ;ʔ≡ʕ; ・_・ʔ mada mada~
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:44
- yeah that guide is nice
- Ichigo01/13 21:44
- Stab ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ ก้้้้้้้้้้้
- timewalker01/13 21:44
- for example crit it list for 1 to be luck , for II to be luck + tech / 3 , for III luck + trick/4 + agility/4
- timewalker01/13 21:45
- trick = tech, mamoru = defence, ken = intelligence, fast = agility and luck = luck
- timewalker01/13 21:45
- force= strength of unit
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:45
- what triggers taming?
- Imythedralle01/13 21:45
- Peeeeee ✧ʕ̢̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩·͡˔·ོɁ̡̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩✧
- timewalker01/13 21:46
- nothing, taming , is a very low probability from 2 to 5 percent.
- timewalker01/13 21:46
- it;s like finding proof based on real life luck :)
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:47
- :( well ill equip my tamer with rabbit tail, just for sake of superstition ^^
- timewalker01/13 21:47
- and if you are lucky , you can find one with good skill like this http://imgur.com/6p84IfV
- timewalker01/13 21:48
- and it will help a lot in the story line if it has good skills .
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:48
- got mine with curse III
- timewalker01/13 21:48
- curse III is also good.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:49
- but 2nd skill for it is anti... still hoping for curse/para with some blok ^^
- timewalker01/13 21:50
- and if you have curse III , do unity till the stats at level 35 is above 368
- timewalker01/13 21:50
- and if it reaches there, it's ready for evolve
- timewalker01/13 21:50
- mine is ready to evolve i am just waiting to get vana crystal
- timewalker01/13 21:52
- it's better to evole when you reach level 35 ....
- timewalker01/13 21:52
- cos usually monsters only can evolve once and it either cost 5000 contribution points or need to get lucky in exploration
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:53
- this game is a real test to patience^^
- timewalker01/13 21:54
- yes it is, hapanese rpg are always like that but this english version, they have already lowered the difficult of bosses map for us
- timewalker01/13 21:55
- those boss maps use to be much harder last time...when we first started playing
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:55
- reminds me of age of wushu... you fight a dungeon for 4 hours and can go out with nothing ^^
- timewalker01/13 21:56
- they lost a lot of players because it takes real hardcore gamer to complete those maps.
- timewalker01/13 21:56
- so they make it easier after that, less mobs in map, less stats for mobs etc
- timewalker01/13 21:57
- you can see we have less monsters in here than in the guide which i have given up, it list monster stats as well as drops in every chapter
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:57
- yeah, english public isnt so much in turn based games like others
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:57
- have seen so many promising titles die, makes me sad
- timewalker01/13 21:57
- by the way to level up, your character cannot have 50 or more stats than the monsters .
- timewalker01/13 21:58
- so if i were to have a level 1 tyr and he has 200 stats, i need to look for a place with mobs having 160 stats and above to level him up or he will gain 0 exp
- timewalker01/13 21:59
- even with battle bonus 0 mulitply by 5, you still get 0 exp :)
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 21:59
- that i figured out^^
- timewalker01/13 21:59
- so it's stats, not level that determines if a unit can gain exp, stats are also given in that guide...
- timewalker01/13 22:00
- usually i make sure the mob has the same or sligjhtly more stats before i go leveling up.
- System message01/13 22:02
- ShamanKing has gained [Sword Master Proof] from Grotti!
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:03
- offtopic - less than week for blade and soul
- timewalker01/13 22:03
- oh ok :)
- timewalker01/13 22:03
- so you will be going away for perhaps 1 month ?
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:03
- i played it in private server,,, had a blast thou bugs were overwhelming
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:04
- probably not.. i had the good times with it already, maybe will drop in and out
- timewalker01/13 22:05
- bugs :), usually those games with good graphics have them or those with a very big world .
- timewalker01/13 22:05
- i prefer to go for easier games now, less bugs,
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:06
- no bugs were because it was a pirated private server.. they run on incompleted alpha/beta client
- timewalker01/13 22:06
- oh .
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:06
- tried chinese official server, but the latency was so big, couldnt play at all
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:07
- so needed to go with bugs instead
- timewalker01/13 22:07
- if it's that good, probably a lot of players will be playing
- timewalker01/13 22:07
- one thing good about this game, it's really free
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:08
- it was game of year, if im not mistaken 2 years ago. english players are tired of waiting for it, so the hype aint so big
- timewalker01/13 22:10
- 2 years is really too long to wait for a game.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:12
- yup. if they localized at that time, that game would have a blast. but for 2 years only thing they had in vebsite "we are working on it" and nothing else
- timewalker01/13 22:12
- then players will get frustrated with the support and will give up on that gsme, i would have also given up .
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:16
- but all in all its fun game.. i think ill go to read all story wich is pretty good, not to be competetive
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:16
- to upgrade gears and be good at pvp needs a good grind
- timewalker01/13 22:16
- what class did you use ?
- timewalker01/13 22:17
- i am reading it, summoner looks easier to use but i think it will probably be very bad for pvp
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:17
- the boxer, dont remember how it was named in there.. brawler or fighter
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:17
- such cool combos in pvp 1 vs 1, but its ****t in dungeons
- timewalker01/13 22:18
- guess it's either for pvp for pve
- Imythedralle01/13 22:18
- Guild Wysteria looking for active players, no level requirement just be active in Great War. We have 3 max level buildings Magic / Bow / Spear for higher unit stat growth. Join now be a part of Wysteria Family
- timewalker01/13 22:18
- those for pve seems weak for pvp
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:18
- no summoners are good pvp. in open beta they were the OP class
- timewalker01/13 22:19
- oh that's good, i would have taken summoner.
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:19
- assasin good for pvp, can mod skills to be good pve too
- timewalker01/13 22:20
- if no summoner, i probably go for blade dancer
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:21
- blade dancer - very good dungeon runner
- timewalker01/13 22:21
- i usually prefer range combat,
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:21
- only some skilled ppl were vrecking my fighter in pvp, need some good build. others were easy
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:22
- mage is ranged
- timewalker01/13 22:22
- that's why you are lucky, to get freya and tyr :)
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:22
- wkwkwwk i am free
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:22
- hehe)
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:23
- the kaskus cannot keep me down
- timewalker01/13 22:23
- freya abilities counter 1 only relies on luck so don't rely on her counter too much
- Artemis™01/13 22:23
- grts please continue your campagn then @_@
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:23
- i will stay strong
- timewalker01/13 22:23
- but that tyr is a different story....
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:23
- and fight the kaskus as long as i am alive
- Imythedralle01/13 22:23
- wkwkwkwwk welcome back teenage mutetage ninja 3eyes
- timewalker01/13 22:23
- it's bryn with a 5 range.
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:23
- fight for honor fight for equality
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:23
- fight for a greater AMERICA
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:24
- freya easy gets in cover^^ she usually tps out against obstacles and laughs "come and get me^^"
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:24
- wew Imy quitted Wysteria but still playing
- timewalker01/13 22:25
- but i am not sure if it's effecitve in duel cos ai always makes the units inside do funny stuffs
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:25
- HAIL TO THE KAKSUS
- Imythedralle01/13 22:25
- shhhh I'm not playing, you're just seeing an apparition :v
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:25
- MAY THE WARLEADER BRING STRENGTH AND PROSPERITY TO ALL
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:25
- oh yeah.. thats a different story
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:25
- wakakakakaakka MERRY CHRISTMAS GOD BLESS AMERICA
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:26
- today dawns a new day in the world
- 3eyeDonald01/13 22:26
- fight for whast right fight for what you believe in
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:26
- at least she doesnt wait in the corner by the river to be arrow meat like melee some times)
- Ichigo01/13 22:26
- wkwkwkwk Kaskus is evil. D:<
- Imythedralle01/13 22:27
- m00000re drugs
- timewalker01/13 22:27
- yes that's true, which is why i stop using bryn in duel anymore because that will happen
- owner4life01/13 22:27
- kaskus is life
- Ichigo01/13 22:27
- ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ ก้้้้้้้้้้้ ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ ก้้้้้้้้้้้
- Imythedralle01/13 22:28
- kaskus eat KFC buckets infront of streetchildren :v
- Imythedralle01/13 22:28
- ✧ʕ̢̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩·͡˔·ོɁ̡̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩✧✧ʕ̢̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩·͡˔·ོɁ̡̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩✧✧ʕ̢̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩·͡˔·ོɁ̡̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩✧✧ʕ̢̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩·͡˔·ོɁ̡̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩✧
- Ichigo01/13 22:28
- So these are the characters that the Japs type in? :v
- VicEatsKiwi01/13 22:28
- once i got wasted by a noobie, because he got all ranged and mines just stayed at fence catching and eating arrows. embarrasing^^
- Ichigo01/13 22:28
- Kaskus shave your cat in Winter season
- Imythedralle01/13 22:28
- yeah in their phones lel
- Ichigo01/13 22:28
- and eat burgers in front of malnourished children. :v
- Imythedralle01/13 22:29
- dayummm poor cats
- Ichigo01/13 22:29
- Nemesis = Kaskus
- Imythedralle01/13 22:29
- the old kaskus that we know :v
- timewalker01/13 22:29
- tyr can hit 5 spaces away but he cannot shoot if a teammate is blocking the way so iit's good to control him manually
- Imythedralle01/13 22:29
- wkwkwkw Chax left Kaskus, what is he now? :v
- Imythedralle01/13 22:30
- http://i.imgur.com/FVH2glf.png
- timewalker01/13 22:30
- but i think he will do fine in duel cos he's still a ranged unit
- Ichigo01/13 22:30
- Nikkaz be like :O
- Imythedralle01/13 22:30
- Chax was like woot win, Nemesis was like no ***** ya ain't *troll face*
- Ichigo01/13 22:30
- Chax the Ophidian :v
- Imythedralle01/13 22:30
- niqqa*
- Ichigo01/13 22:31
- Kuzans :v
- Imythedralle01/13 22:32
- so strong so black with with pubes
- Ichigo01/13 22:33
- wkwkaowkao
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