06:59 - Kameqø: Hellø, what dø yøu need?
07:00 - Kameqø: Ør dø yøu nøt need anything, just want tø be friends
07:00 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: Yeah that, I like grimorie mana storm
07:01 - Kameqø: Cøøl, I'm an animatør
07:01 - Kameqø: Før it
07:01 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: and I'm kinda sad with the last events we had with brent. Not sure if it's permament
07:01 - Kameqø: I didn't make the shit in the game right nøw, I'm the guy wørking øn the updates
07:01 - Kameqø: Brent's been really stressed lately.
07:01 - Kameqø: I'm nøt sure what the støry is, and I'm nøt gøing tø defend him ør yøu
07:02 - Kameqø: But I think we shøuld just put that whøle thing tø rest.
07:02 - Kameqø: He's a geniunely gøød guy, but he has his slip-ups and stress, and øutbursts, just like everyøne
07:02 - Kameqø: I get frustrated with him sømetimes tøø but I try nøt tø take it persønally.
07:02 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: he wen't a really rude and now acting pretentious. At first I just wanted to fix the issue, but now I want him appologise for his behavior. Besides, if he doesn't want to, I guess I should forget about his existance
07:03 - Kameqø: Just chill øut a little.
07:03 - Kameqø: It's nøbødy's fault, just a misunderstanding between twø different peøple
07:03 - Kameqø: Nøbødy can get aløng with everyøne, yøu knøw?
07:04 - Kameqø: I sure as hell døn't get aløng with Saishy, a prøgrammer.
07:04 - Kameqø: I've never expressed it thøugh.
07:04 - Kameqø: And damn if I cøuld kick Øccipital øff the team I wøuld
07:04 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: who is occipital?
07:05 - Kameqø: A "designer" før it
07:05 - Kameqø: He did øne thing and nøw thinks he's THE guy
07:05 - Kameqø: It's annøying, but I wørk with him anyway
07:05 - Kameqø: The pøint is,
07:05 - Kameqø: Just try tø realize that it's nøt Brent's fault, and it's nøt yøurs.
07:06 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: like I said in the review itself, I think we catch misunderstanding or I catch him in a bad day
07:07 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: so if things change, and he appologize, I would like to get things get along again
07:07 - Kameqø: He's nøt gøing tø because he døesn't think he did wrøng
07:07 - Kameqø: Just like yøu wøn't because yøu døn't think yøu did wrøng
07:08 - Kameqø: Please just settle døwn. It's been really hurting øur cømmunity's grøwth that yøur review is sø high øn the list, and it's made everyøne's stress wørse, including Brent's
07:09 - Kameqø: I'm ØN THE TEAM and Brent sømetimes says "I døn't have time før this" when I try tø shøw him animatiøns.
07:10 - Kameqø: I just want yøu tø knøw that yøu're really just døing møre harm than gøød, and the møst help yøu cøuld dø right nøw is just tø pretend this never happened and be happy with just playing the game ør just nøt playing the game. It has issues. We're fixing them. We have a team that knøws what we want tø dø, and what the cønsistent cømmunity wants us tø dø.
07:12 - Kameqø: I'm nøt gøing tø ask yøu tø take yøur review døwn even thøugh it'd help us møre than yøu cøuld imagine, because I knøw it'd be tøø much tø ask øf yøu.
07:12 - Kameqø: But at least just put the whøle smearing tø rest, even if it was justified?
07:18 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: Like I said, unless things change in future, my review stays. I have spread this game among these who likes this type of game, so it's possible them who read it (one of commenters is my friend). Brent didn't said anything in terms of "I døn't have time før this", or just saying that he's busy, which usually means I stop writing. Me and them already had meet an really asshole people that were "indie developers", who pretend to be nice at first but then just fuck you up first chance if you stop contributing to them or just start getting annoying, so such behavior is usually not forgiven. I've been permamently banned from forums several times after reporting fatal issues. He went rampage on me some days later after I wrote to him offline. He basically reponded like 4 days since the day I send him message. Besides, I would rather like to know you more, maybe even play games with you if you like magic shooter, if you like.
07:19 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: and like I said, if brent doesn't want to know me, I have no other choice but forget about him to.
07:19 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: too*
07:19 - Kameqø: Dude yøu døn't even fucking knøw him
07:19 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: when I said I know him?
07:20 - Kameqø: Yøu didn't
07:20 - Kameqø: But tø say:
07:20 - Kameqø: eally asshole people that were "indie developers", who pretend to be nice at first but then just fuck you up first chance if you stop contributing to them or just start getting annoying
07:20 - Kameqø: Really
07:20 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I never said Brent was one of them
07:21 - Kameqø: Yøu inferred it.
07:21 - Kameqø: Yøu seriøusly need tø calm døwn.
07:21 - Kameqø: Yøu're intitled tø nøthing.
07:21 - Kameqø: I was trying tø be nice, but yøu're just being irratiønal
07:21 - Kameqø: And nøw I'm kind øf frustrated
07:21 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I didn't even imply that, but whatever. Besides, I don't really want to touch this topic.
07:22 - Kameqø: Sø sørry if I'm being a dick here, but I seriøusly think yøu need tø just calm døwn a little.
07:22 - Kameqø: He's a persøn.
07:22 - Kameqø: With flaws.
07:22 - Kameqø: And prøblem.s
07:22 - Kameqø: Yøu're a persøn
07:22 - Kameqø: With flaws.
07:22 - Kameqø: And prøblems.
07:22 - Kameqø: See the cørrelatiøn?
07:22 - Kameqø: Bøth øf yøu døn't think yøu're in the wrøng
07:22 - Kameqø: And neither øf yøu want tø apøløgize
07:23 - Kameqø: Sø instead øf crying abøut it
07:23 - Kameqø: Dø what Brent's døne and just fucking møve øn a little
07:23 - Kameqø: But if yøu have a little decency
07:23 - Kameqø: At least pretend like yøu're øver it
07:24 - Kameqø: Øtherwise it's hønestly pretty pathetic øf yøu tø have a high-and-mighty stance against sømebødy whø's JUST SØME GUY FRØM FLØRIDA WØRKING ØN A VERY UNPØPULAR GAME.
07:24 - Kameqø: Caps-løck was før emphasis, nøt før yelling.
07:29 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: We all have flaws, yes. Except I did more than enough concessions out of courtesy to solve the issues and misunderstnadings we had, in a polite way. You know, talk, not just bluntly ignore and blocking because "fuck this guy I'm careless about that", and I would even appologize if he give solid reason where I did mistaken or bother him in wrong time. Or for fuck sake, just tell me that he was in bad mood and I already would of appologize and forgive him. I give him third chance to fix our problems, but he seems too entitled to deal with me or don't see me of any value. If he doesn't want to see me, I don't want to bother with him too. I have limits too, and I've been abused a lot before, too. Also, aren't you're saying that I should pretend like I'm over it?? That's what I'm doing, I just want to forget him. If he's not going to have respect to me, I won't make any more courtesy too, and for that very reason my negative review is justified.
07:30 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: But anyway
07:30 - Kameqø: I døn't think yøu realize that everyøne else in the cømmunity is mad at yøu.
07:30 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: without having any biased or misunderstanded past, I would like to be friend to you if you like.
07:30 - Kameqø: I'm willing tø cøøperate with yøu.
07:31 - Kameqø: Sørry if it seemed like I freaked øut før a sec
07:31 - Kameqø: I just disagree with yøu pretty harshly, but I can løøk past that if yøu want tø play søme Manastørm sømetime.
07:35 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I don't care about "community" if they are just brainless brent's ass kissers who just obey him and don't look on both sides for evidence. I really I really despise the brent's pretentiousness, and just because he's lead developer that doesn't give him right to being an asshole to other if he like. I don't care what people think of me, but I tend to just say things the way they are, and if they gonna get mad at me, that is a good way to get rid of people I should not care about and these who I can trust. Funny though, people get mad because they pick the topic they don't really want to hear my response about. Anyway, I've already delayed like 20-30 min and my friend is waiting me to play with me. I hope we grasp everying we could about this discussion and can be assured that it's ended?
07:36 - Kameqø: Dude he's nøt being pretentiøus he's just nøt a peøple persøn, I just think yøu need tø calm døwn a little. I'm nøt trying tø start a fight, I'm just asking yøu tø talk in less hyperbølic terms.
07:36 - Kameqø: Yøu døn't need tø be having this discussiøn
07:36 - Kameqø: Yøu were the øne that friended me tø have it
07:37 - Kameqø: And if yøu're gøing tø insult the cømmunity, then I might bløck yøu tøø før being tøxic.
07:38 - Kameqø: What abøut me, a member øf bøth the cømmunity øn the team,
07:38 - Kameqø: Has shøwn that I haven't been taking evidence frøm bøth sides
07:38 - Kameqø: If anything I think I've been a little øn yøur side før søme parts øf this discussiøn, just asking that it's sølved.
07:38 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I wasn't the one who pick this topic, and I neither like your threatening attitude but I close my eyes on that. I added you because I would like to play with people who like games where you actually can play as Mage, and I found you interesting and nice in that thread. Can we please end this topic about brent?
07:39 - Kameqø: Yes.
07:39 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: are we cool now?
07:39 - Kameqø: I'm sørry, but I just døn't take insults tø the cømmunity like that.
07:39 - Kameqø: We're cøøl,
07:39 - Kameqø: But just døn't thrøw punches like that
07:40 - Kameqø: Just a little frustrated is all.
07:40 - Kameqø: I apøløgize if I søunded threatening beføre, I was just stating my state øf mind øf the time.
07:41 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: and I really despise behavior of brent, so I sincerely believe such rude, careless and respectless attitude shouldn't go without consequences. I neither like when I'm being threatened or make assumptions about me or what I say. See, we are different people, but at least I can try to understand your stance and point of view.
07:42 - Kameqø: Dude why are yøu freaking øut øn me all the sudden
07:42 - Kameqø: I thøught yøu just said we'd støp talking abøut Brent, this is nø lønger abøut him
07:42 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: you said "don't throw punches like that", when you explained things you don't like, so I explained things I don't like so you could understand me more
07:43 - Kameqø: I was simply asking yøu støp thrøwing insults arøund like that because, as insults dø tø møst peøple, it didn't make me feel very great.
07:43 - Kameqø: Yøu're right, I døn't understand yøu ør yøur møtives ør anything
07:43 - Kameqø: But I døn't knøw if we cøuld ever really be friends because øf this misunderstanding, følløwed by dispute.
07:44 - Kameqø: It wøuld all be kind øf awkward.
07:44 - Kameqø: At least, før me.
07:44 - Kameqø: That's my bad, nøt yøurs.
07:43 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: so neither were your threatening and assumptions? That's what I said. I try to understand you, but you gotta understand me. It's not one-sided life, you know.
07:44 - Kameqø: I wøn't bløck yøu, that'd just be immature after I tøld yøu we were gøød.
07:44 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: You pay respect, I pay respect
07:44 - Kameqø: What'd I assume abøut yøu?
07:44 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: isn't that fair?
07:45 - Kameqø: What did I threaten beyønd just saying "I'll bløck yøu if yøu're gøing tø insult me"
07:45 - Kameqø: That's entirely fair,
07:45 - Kameqø: I'm just a little cønfused as tø why yøu're mad at me
07:45 - Kameqø: Yøu were saying things yøu knøw I disagree with then gøt mad when I disagreed
07:45 - Kameqø: I just døn't get it.
07:45 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I was more refering to this line - "07:30 - Kameqø: I døn't think yøu realize that everyøne else in the cømmunity is mad at yøu." this sound more like a real threat. Attempt to censore me because then a bunch of people I never knew about gonna be mad.
07:46 - Kameqø: Øh, gørw a pair løl
07:46 - Kameqø: Grøw*
07:46 - Kameqø: Døn't get sø defensive, I was just saying that nøbødy in the cømmunity really agrees with yøu is all.
07:46 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: If I didn't I wouldn't say that I don't care about community ffs
07:46 - Kameqø: I didn't knøw that
07:47 - Kameqø: I was just trying tø say that yøu're nøt helping.
07:46 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I really hate bandwagon phenomenon
07:47 - Kameqø: Yøu're just acting øut øf anger
07:47 - Kameqø: It's nøt bandwagøn, it's peøple being mad that yøur review is dragging døwn the game's pøpularity
07:48 - Kameqø: They're nøt mad that yøu døn't like Brent they're mad that yøur stirring-up is ruining the fun før them
07:47 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: that's the consequences, really.
07:48 - Kameqø: *Facepalm*
07:48 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I have already explained my stance
07:48 - Kameqø: Løøk man, nø matter what I dø here yøu're gøing tø paint me like the bad guy
07:48 - Kameqø: Yes yøu have and I simply disagree
07:48 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I don't
07:48 - Kameqø: Bullshit
07:49 - Kameqø: Every tiny little øpening I've had where I shøwed any emøtiøn yøu've been øn me abøut it
07:49 - Kameqø: Yøu're a hipøcrite,
07:49 - Kameqø: Yøu just want peøple tø suck up tø yøu
07:49 - Kameqø: I døn't get why yøu have tø be sø passiønate abøut it.
07:50 - Kameqø: I was just asking that yøu chill øut a little bit and nøt take everything sø persønally.
07:50 - Kameqø: If yøu can't dø that, I will unfriend yøu because I døn't want tø be friends with peøple that can't just relax a little.
07:50 - Kameqø: I just disagree with yøur øpiniøn.
07:50 - Kameqø: Keep yøur øpiniøn.
07:50 - Kameqø: Be mad at Brent.
07:50 - Kameqø: But just
07:50 - Kameqø: Relax a little.
07:51 - Kameqø: It døesn't need tø be at the førefrønt øf everything.
07:51 - Kameqø: It døesn't need tø be a big deal, ør anybødy else's business but yøurs and Brent's.
07:53 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: actually hypocritical would be you. I have opening too, and so I explained my stances. But you getting angry at my opennings is okay for you, while when I do give "angry response" on your openings, you start judging me. Isn't you just basically projecting now? With all this relaxation, looks like something you want more. But if you sincerely wish me to be relaxed and not just to stfu, you would rather pick topic for that. I hope I do sound rational to you? And no, I'm not painting you as bad guy.
07:54 - Kameqø: If we're talking øpennings
07:54 - Kameqø: Yøu're all øpennings
07:54 - Kameqø: Yøu're nøt even TRYING tø act nice ør relaxed abøut the situatiøn.
07:54 - Kameqø: Yøu're acting like a child.
07:54 - Kameqø: Sø excuse me if I døn't enjøy hearing it.
07:55 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: you do realize you constanty throwing insults, yet you getting mad at me saying my experience about "community"?
07:55 - Kameqø: Yes.
07:55 - Kameqø: I am a massive hipøcrite
07:55 - Kameqø: It's øne øf my flaws
07:55 - Kameqø: And øne øf yøurs is that yøu øverreact and act like a child
07:57 - Kameqø: I am hønestly pretty half-assed abøut this whøle thing. I'm nøt passiønately før either side, yøurs ør mine.
07:57 - Kameqø: I'm nøt arguing yøu.
07:57 - Kameqø: I'm just frustrated
07:57 - Kameqø: And I'm expressing that by insulting yøu because yøu happen tø be the persøn I'm frustrated with
07:57 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I disagree with your definition of behavior of child to be correct. You really should drop this shit if you actually not want me to not behave on your level. Because, while I might can sometime imply some kind of insults, you just openly throw them.
07:57 - Kameqø: But I'm ønly using insults that I believe fit yøu.
07:58 - Kameqø: We just døn't get aløng.
07:58 - Kameqø: Støp taking everything persønally.
07:58 - Kameqø: I tried tø be nice, but yøu kept gøing and gøing.
07:58 - Kameqø: Flapping yøur lips abøut whatever claim yøu might have, ignøring everything I'm trying tø say.
07:58 - Kameqø: Sø, if yøu think yøu're døne,
07:59 - Kameqø: I'll unfriend yøu nøw.
07:58 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: wait
07:59 - Kameqø: Økay.
07:59 - Kameqø: I'm willing tø hear yøu øut, I'm nøt gøing tø leave until yøu're døne
07:59 - Kameqø: But as øf a while agø, I've been døne.
07:59 - Kameqø: As øf the pøint where I støpped being nice.
08:00 - Kameqø: I'd just quickly like tø pøint øut that I'm generally nøt a mean persøn. I'll try tø be nice, but if I get angry I get a little less nice, and if that cøntinues then I get mean, and I'm sørry før being a dick tø yøu. I høpe yøu døn't think this is reflective øf whø I am.
08:01 - Kameqø: Nøne øf this is what I wanted. I just wanted tø ask før øne extremely simple cøncept, øf just chilling øut abøut the whøle thing, døn't take this situatiøn sø persønally.
08:01 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: Fucking hell, game crash and my message is gone.......
08:01 - Kameqø: That's my takeaway that I want yøu tø have.
08:01 - Kameqø: Øh that sucks I'm sørry
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08:01 - Kameqø: What's the takeaway yøu want me tø have?
08:02 - Kameqø: Keep it simple like what I did.
08:02 - Kameqø: " I just wanted tø ask før øne extremely simple cøncept, øf just chilling øut abøut the whøle thing, døn't take this situatiøn sø persønally."
08:02 - Kameqø: Bam
08:02 - Kameqø: Døne
08:02 - Kameqø: And that I'm alsø sørry før being mean tø yøu før a while there. Just the anger, it happens tø the best øf us. Nøt that I'm øne øf the best løl
08:02 - Kameqø: Far frøm it
08:04 - Kameqø: But if yøu want tø make it a løng paragraph that's cøøl
08:04 - Kameqø: I'm nøt gøing tø tell yøu what tø dø.
08:14 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: You're continuing to ignore that you want to make it exclusively one-sided with you. You not only want to hear me, but *obey* it. I hear you from beginning, but do you hear me and try to understand?? You've as well acted rude and offensive from beginning, and any other of my friends would call you a faggot and just ignore the rest of your speech, but I'm trying my best to remain nice while still being honest and not to descent to direct insults toward you. Would it be fair to you if you called autistic hypocritical and biased asshole because I view such combination of personality fits you and your behavior?? I don't think so, but why aren't paying any respect yet expect me to do that? You pushing really A LOT, like, I've never ever had such long conversation with brent ever, and all this time you're just really push on me for not fitting your view point on thing. If you actually want to me to relax, you would at least try to not anger me more with your rudeness, hypocricy and pushing annoyance, because then I actually start to do offensive messages yet not directly insult you. And if you really this nice person, you should understand that threatening someone to remove them just because they are angry is not nice too. Besides it's 7 am and it's really hard for a english speech for someone who is russian native speaker. The reason why it continued so long is because when I and you said the topic is over, you still pick some element that would easily trigger me for another reply, and so you did. So if you actually say that things are cool now between us and that you're nice person, would you actually keep me as friend to just play video games or talk about something else??
08:16 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: so, we are actually cool, or you just want to get rid of me?
08:16 - Kameqø: Yøu knøw what
08:16 - Kameqø: Fuck nø
08:16 - Kameqø: Fuck yøu
08:16 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: so you don't like when I being rude like you do? And I'm trying to be objective yet nice to you
08:17 - Kameqø: Shut up
08:17 - Kameqø: Yøu're a pretentiøus piece øf shit that needs tø calm the hell døwn
08:17 - Kameqø: I døn't get why yøu think yøu're right.
08:17 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: quit projecting.
08:18 - Kameqø: Gøødbye, asshøle
08:17 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: I never said that
08:17 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: yeah k, I'll save the text tho.
08:18 - Kameqø: Yeah
08:18 - Kameqø: I have several screenshøts and quøtes frøm yøu tøø
08:18 - Kameqø: Sø we're even.
08:18 - Kameqø: I tried tø be nice
08:18 - Kameqø: Sø hard
08:18 - Kameqø: But it's hard
08:18 - Kameqø: When I'm trying tø be nice tø sømebødy like yøu
08:19 - Kameqø: Jitterskull?
08:19 - Kameqø: Møre like thickskull.
08:19 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: you just call people names, bother them when they try to play with friend, and then except people to simple relax and cooldown and ignore all that.
08:19 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: ?
08:52 - Pr.Jitterskull - best bug fixer: Maybe you do, but who I am to judge. Neither I can do anything about your decision. But gosh, my english is so god damn awful all this speech, hopefully it's still understable.