[08:22:36] <Billf> g'mornin greg
[08:35:27] <greg> morning
[08:36:17] <Billf> found out more about the MDM - was curious what it takes to get a VM to test windows shares (I know I ask Bill, but I was wondering about the process itself)
[08:36:57] <greg> you create a vm. install an os, then share some files
[08:37:22] <Billf> lol ... does we have da lyescents?
[08:37:41] <greg> we have msdn
[08:37:47] <greg> ask bill to have me make a vm
[08:37:49] <greg> and ill make one
[08:37:50] <greg> in 2016
[08:37:54] <greg> or what ever os
[08:38:01] <greg> you could also run it locally
[08:38:39] <Billf> I'd need out on 443
[08:38:46] <greg> not blocked
[08:38:48] <greg> for you
[08:38:52] <greg> or a vm
[08:39:00] <Billf> and I'd like to use a VM so if its a go we can just use it
[08:39:07] <greg> sure
[08:40:15] <Billf> basically share on win vm -> SSL VPN on 443 to MaaS360 server -> iOS device on SSL
[08:40:44] <Billf> *you usually blow giant holes in my ideas - I need that now more than ever*
[08:40:58] <greg> lol
[08:41:05] <greg> well you make it sound like im mean
[08:41:06] <greg> lol
[08:41:21] <greg> the 1 problem I can see is ACL mapping
[08:41:28] <Billf> Not my intent, but I'm pretty sure you'd pout publicly while holding it as a point of pride inside :P
[08:41:30] <greg> im sure there  is more
[08:41:32] <greg> but im so tired
[08:41:34] <greg> lol
[08:43:37] <greg> I dont know much about it sadly. i dont see anything network wise thatd be massive convern
[08:43:39] <greg> concern*
[08:44:46] <Billf> Its literally a software SSL vpn to access win shares - not much to it
[08:45:09] <greg> then lets do it up!
[08:45:38] <Billf> lemme give bill another hour to do bill stuff while I read a bit more on policies
[08:45:56] <Billf> can geofence devices. interesting read
[08:45:57] <greg> better hurry before the kid pops
[08:46:07] <Billf> is that due today?
[08:46:30] <greg> i hear its coming close
[08:46:39] <greg> he gave me some stuff to check while hes out today
[08:47:02] <Billf> hes out today?! lol
[08:47:34] <greg> there is a comma there somewhere
[08:47:35] <greg> i forgot
[08:51:04] <Billf> well, I asked for permission - we'll wait and see I suppose
[08:51:15] <greg> he just told me to make it
[08:51:39] <Billf> only if you have time though
[08:55:46] <Billf> speaking of free time - wanna go smoke some tide pods later?
[08:56:12] <greg> nah, i do that at home for fun already
[08:56:35] <Billf> un-fucking-real how numb kids are
[08:56:53] <Billf> even the idiots sucking canned air get a reward ... whats the end game with the tide pods?
[08:58:54] <greg> more brain damage
[08:59:03] <greg> I could use some brain damage right about now
[08:59:09] <greg> now that you mention it
[08:59:49] <Billf> got my best brain damage with a little physical activity
[09:00:01] <Billf> go play near the cutting machine - it'll sort itself out shortly me thinks
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[09:46:05] <greg> nrfvmaas360 you have local admin if you login with your billf ad info
[09:46:07] <greg> i snapped box
[09:46:10] <greg> for init
[09:46:21] <greg> 10.40.30.140 if you cant resolve dns
[09:54:39] <Billf> Appl3123
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[10:42:49] <Billf> in that VM btw - thanks again!
[10:42:59] <greg> np
[10:43:02] <greg> its snapped
[10:43:06] <greg> lemme know if u need anything
[10:43:14] <Billf> roger-roger
[10:44:51] <Billf> entered tax info into turbo tax app - it told me I need a raise
[10:44:55] <Billf> can you help with raise?
[10:45:06] <greg> yeah. there is this lady down in HR
[10:45:08] <greg> named sue
[10:45:13] <Billf> ha
[10:45:38] <greg> im just happy i got a decent return while claiming a 3
[10:45:41] <Billf> she'd only give me a raise if it were somehow earmarked for grand kids
[10:45:44] <greg> yay for children
[10:45:48] <Billf> for real
[10:46:01] <Billf> $7k federal return because I'm a student supporting family of 5
[10:46:04] <greg> what she doesnt know is that you can act like a grand kid with the best of em
[10:46:07] <greg> thats how you get her
[10:46:12] <Billf> oh, she knows that
[10:46:28] <Billf> shes my mom and in charge of HR where I work - she knows everything
[10:47:24] <Billf> So with that kind of return and my present circumstances being what they are ....
[10:47:33] <Billf> guess who is buying VR for his B-Day in February?
[10:48:01] <greg> lol
[10:48:08] <greg> new vive is coming out
[10:48:15] <Billf> contemplating an eGPU and 1080
[10:48:30] <Billf> but I'm concerned about loss on eGPU, is it because its basically using 4x pcie lanes?
[10:50:02] <greg> yeah i would be worried too
[10:50:25] <Billf> I'm thinking I can use my Quadro for physics and recover some of that though
[10:50:53] <Billf> problem is, I want VR on my laptop. Want to give my old desktop to daughter for kicking ass in school
[10:51:21] <Billf> but a quadro card (mine is close to 965m gpu) isn't gonna run any VR
[10:52:30] <Billf> tl;dr - A) buy eGPU solution with 1080. B) Consider new machine on cheap with a 1070 in it C) build ryzen threadripper lol build with lol 1080ti lol
[10:52:35] <Billf> A - B - C ??
[10:52:46] <Billf> B) => B )
[10:53:07] <greg> id probably build. laptop stuff like this never makes sense.
[10:53:38] <Billf> D) blow entire tax return on $5,000 iMac Pro with 1080ti
[10:53:45] <Billf> rofl
[10:53:56] <Billf> :'-(
[10:54:01] <greg> that sounds reasonable to me
[10:54:04] <greg> macs just work
[10:54:07] <greg> and are awesome
[10:54:19] <Billf> sorry - you came to OBR. Gabriel drive is ==============> that way
[10:54:46] <greg> im not sure what way anything is anymore
[10:54:58] <Billf> its all relative anyway
[10:55:09] <Billf> I think up is a lie to be honest
[10:55:11] <greg> well not if the earth is flat
[10:55:14] <Billf> or we'd fall off the earth
[10:55:19] <Billf> IT HAS TO BE FLAT
[10:55:46] <Billf> or we'd fall off. Jesus Christ! Why can't you people understand the laws (lies?) of physics that you tout so proudly?!
[10:56:05] <greg> ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiBJBVBez_w
[10:56:12] <greg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiBJBVBez_w
[10:56:14] <Billf> risky click of the day ....
[10:56:27] <greg> nah man 200 proofs the earth is flat.
[10:57:41] <Billf> oh. my. god.
[10:57:47] <Billf> these people are for real?
[10:57:51] <Billf> I thought this was just a meme
[10:57:54] <greg> yep. there is an ice wall
[10:58:01] <greg> that the government wont let us pass
[10:58:06] <greg> to prove that we will fall off
[10:58:09] <greg> -eric dubay
[10:58:12] <Billf> the 4th wall ...
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[11:18:18] <Billf> Physical or Virtual Machine with Windows Server 2008 RC2, 2008, or 2003 as an installation target for the Cloud Extender software (see the Release Notes). You can also use Windows XP or Windows 7, but they are not recommended for use in a Production environment.
[11:18:25] <Billf> 2016 = 2008 RC2 ??
[11:18:27] <greg> gross
[11:18:37] <Billf> si
[11:18:44] <Billf> fuck 'em, gonna try anyway
[11:19:09] <greg> 2008 is end of lifed
[11:19:11] <greg> that is concerning
[11:19:25] <Billf> obviously it could be an old document he emailed me
[11:20:14] <Billf> ya, online says 2016
[11:20:15] <Billf> lol
[11:25:16] <Billf> why aren't tm's in AD?
[11:25:50] <greg> what do you mean
[11:26:15] <Billf> I mean that having tm's in ad would make this config much easier
[11:26:52] <greg> as users
[11:26:54] <greg> or something?
[11:27:22] <Billf> are there policies now that restrict product managers to certain shares?
[11:27:30] <greg> yea
[11:27:37] <greg> there are share restrictions
[11:29:22] <Billf> and are TM's even users in AD?
[11:29:45] <greg> gimme a name
[11:29:53] <Billf> John Starring
[11:30:35] <greg> i dont see him in there
[11:30:49] <Billf> Marc Grodberg
[11:30:52] <Billf> Roger Berube
[11:30:58] <Billf> Joe Varnauskas
[11:31:07] <Billf> willing to bet all nadda
[11:32:31] <greg> nuffin
[11:32:40] <Billf> tm not in ad
[11:32:56] <Billf> if were, make rule. rule is good
[11:33:03] <greg> now im curious. why do they need ad auth
[11:33:29] <Billf> It integrates everything with AD, so that any user policy is the same on mobile or desk
[11:33:51] <greg> how is auth done remotely
[11:34:15] <Billf> not entirely sure
[11:34:45] <Billf> I can create a user and assign policies like we do now with alresco
[11:35:34] <Billf> not entirely sure what you're looking for in an answer there might be a better way to respond
[11:38:25] <Billf> I'm just thinking that somebody who works inside and needs access to alex on their mobile device, lets say Bruce Burns, would be easily configured using AD for auth; but I'm not sure if I can use both AD and MaaS to auth simultaneously?
[11:38:40] <Billf> probably a dumb question if you've done stuff like this before, but its pretty close to my first time
[11:39:29] <greg> yeah youre missing a piece there. Auth systems are manually coded. so it depends on what the story is
[11:39:36] <greg> you can have ad auth on the internet as well
[11:43:39] <Billf> it looks, to me, like it simply imports the settings from AD to the portal (when looking at portal) and that was my understanding before looking at the doc he sent me
[11:44:32] <Billf> The cloud extender documentation makes it sound like you would use the existing AD controller to auth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:45:59] <Billf> since TM's aren't in there, it seems that may be wasted time/energy and I could import the AD profiles to the portal and just use MaaS's portal to auth users
[11:46:41] <greg> id like to prevent ad entries from being accessible on the internet
[11:46:44] <greg> in any form.
[11:47:42] <greg> but its not mine, its bob's. he may be up for it
[11:48:07] <Billf> there's probably a reason I'm talking to you and Bill about this and not Bob, but I'm an idiot and can't seem to put my finger on it
[11:52:05] <greg> in the end its his. I donno. We could do a RODC too.
[11:52:11] <greg> i dont make the rules
[11:52:15] <greg> i just watch the fires
[11:52:53] <Billf> could I import the AD groups/rules safely?
[11:53:05] <Billf> in your opinion, I understand thats a Bob/Bill question
[11:53:59] <greg> you could export some stuff. safely
[11:54:05] <greg> but that wont be automatic
[11:54:10] <greg> depends on what maas does