Akuma thoughts from the Tekken 7 Fated Retribution location

Akuma thoughts from the Tekken 7 Fated Retribution location tests

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00:46 クリントン I watched the stream akuma compilation
00:46 クリントン Akuma sucks
00:47 クリントン He's slow
00:47 クリントン Has no range and his super can get stuffed and demon rage can be interrupted
00:48 井上ケン I think he's good. He has cross ups and his combos lead into mixups.
00:48 井上ケン And best of all, if you're -20, you always have an option to not have to block the opponent's next attack
00:48 クリントン He has potential
00:49 井上ケン Whether it be teleport or shoryuken
00:50 クリントン Oh
00:50 クリントン Mashout?
00:50 クリントン Lol
00:50 クリントン Ya
00:50 クリントン You right
00:50 井上ケン I'll gladly give up a long frame punish for a free mixup
00:50 クリントン But if the anticipate that you will eat shit
00:50 クリントン Stickers
00:50 井上ケン It's either a mid or a low into a 30% combo that sets up for another mixup
00:50 クリントン Oh ya?
00:51 井上ケン How can they anticipate your teleport?
00:51 井上ケン You don't have to go backwards, you can go forwards and end up behind them
00:51 クリントン Well that's all part of yomi
00:51 井上ケン You can just runaway most of the time
00:52 クリントン Ya
00:52 クリントン Unless they can wavedash and catchup to you
00:52 井上ケン Ok so they wavedash up to you...now what?
00:53 井上ケン You can just teleport away against and they have to guess the direction again
00:53 井上ケン Or you mash dp after they do their first attack
00:53 クリントン Lol
00:53 井上ケン And once you're far away you can just harass with fireballs all the while building meter
00:54 クリントン Teleport has recovery frames
00:54 クリントン Ya
00:54 井上ケン Not that many
00:54 クリントン He's heavy on keep away
00:54 井上ケン And you still have to know which way they go
00:54 クリントン Ya
00:54 クリントン True
00:54 クリントン But that's why I was sayin yomi
00:54 井上ケン Technically you can sidestep his fireballs and launch him but then he has all his homing attacks
00:54 クリントン If your on a walless stage maybe
00:55 クリントン But if your on the wall I don't expect you to teleport back
00:55 井上ケン Walls don't matter
00:55 井上ケン He has a teleport
00:55 クリントン They do
00:55 クリントン Lol
00:56 井上ケン He can jump back at the wall and 90% of your moves will miss
00:57 井上ケン And he can also jump over you
00:57 井上ケン And he can also mash dp
00:58 井上ケン And he also has focus attack as his powercrush so he's forcing you to use poke moves only which he can crush
00:59 井上ケン If you go low he gets to jump at you, and if you go high, he does low moves into a 30% combo
00:59 井上ケン And these combos he's doing, he can hit confirm also, he doesn't have to commit
01:00 井上ケン Which means let's say if his d3 gets blocked, he can cancel into a special move and be safe from your ws4 or whatever move you use to punish
01:00 クリントン Ya
01:00 クリントン Sounds good on paper
01:00 井上ケン And he can also kill you from chip dmg just like kazumi's tiger
01:00 井上ケン But better
01:02 クリントン Lol
01:02 クリントン Ya
01:02 クリントン Only fireballs right?
01:03 井上ケン Nah, all special moves
01:03 井上ケン IIRC
01:03 クリントン Jesus
01:03 クリントン Well
01:03 クリントン That's two options
01:04 井上ケン I personally think he builds meter pretty fast
01:05 井上ケン If you're just running away and throwing air fireballs, you're not gonna build meter that fast
01:06 井上ケン Whenever you have an opening, you should attack and finish with a fireball or mixup because not only are you building meter, you are doing chip dmg too
01:06 井上ケン You don't necessarily need to hit them an do dmg
01:07 井上ケン If you have a life lead, then it's totally in your favor
01:09 井上ケン I think the deciding factor on how good he is depends on his frame data and his max dmg combos
01:10 クリントン Ya
01:10 クリントン I wanted to try him out
01:17 JT Tan Goukis an asshole on mugen stage vs chloe
01:18 JT Tan She cant do shit to him. Lol.
01:18 JT Tan Opposite is true of xiaoyu vs gouki in a walled stage.
01:39 井上ケン Chloe can kangaroo kick throw akuma's fireballs for a 70% combo
01:39 井上ケン Kangaroo kick through
02:04 JT Tan He was doing jump fireballs, blocked everything up close
02:04 JT Tan And why are point blank fireballs safe
02:04 JT Tan That cant be right.
02:04 井上ケン They've always been safe
02:04 JT Tan Having an unseeable sweep makes him hard to keep in a firefight... Plus the shoryuken of stupidity.
02:04 JT Tan Yeah, thats stupid in tekken.
02:05 井上ケン Just bait out the shoryuken
02:05 クリントン In super?
02:05 JT Tan He has a safe low mid string that does chip damage
02:05 井上ケン He has a lot of good lows but has shitty mids
02:05 JT Tan Are u kidding me?
02:05 井上ケン This is normal in sf
02:05 クリントン Ok
02:05 JT Tan I get that
02:05 JT Tan Now how about tekken? Uh, nope
02:05 井上ケン So just get used to it
02:05 JT Tan Even if u block the low, the fireball hits u
02:05 クリントン Do the air ones have recovery?
02:06 井上ケン You could always PC through the fireball
02:06 JT Tan In short, everything he does up close is safe
02:06 井上ケン You can sidestep the air fireball and launch him out of the recovery
02:06 JT Tan No u cant. Its d3, fireball
02:06 JT Tan No frames to pc
02:06 井上ケン The good Akuma players will not always throw an air fireball
02:06 JT Tan After blocking d3?
02:06 井上ケン PC the air fireball
02:06 JT Tan Ur not listening...
02:06 クリントン Depending on the range it's not a true string so some characters can use their crush move?
02:07 JT Tan D3, fireball
02:07 JT Tan U have to block it. Nothing u can do
02:07 JT Tan No frames to pc
02:07 井上ケン Yes d3 fireball, just get used to it
02:07 JT Tan Hell i doubt u can ra between it
02:07 井上ケン It does 1 pixel....big deal
02:07 JT Tan No, i refuse to think his range 0 is that dumb in TEKKEN
02:07 JT Tan He does it, ub fireball
02:07 JT Tan Not much i can do
02:08 JT Tan This is as a chloe
02:08 JT Tan Josie and xiaoyu and alisa will have a dif opinion
02:08 井上ケン You can run up, sidestep the air fireball and launch him
02:08 JT Tan Since they close the gap easily
02:08 井上ケン I should say sidewalk
02:09 井上ケン The closer you are the bigger the hitbox on the fireball
02:09 JT Tan Mugen stage as chloe...
02:09 井上ケン Well...you know what I mean
02:09 JT Tan Running in isnt that easy
02:09 井上ケン Why run in?
02:09 クリントン Lol
02:09 JT Tan Cuz... How else do u get tovhim?
02:09 JT Tan I navigate the fireballs
02:09 井上ケン Just hit Akuma with a d4 at the beginning and then run away
02:09 JT Tan Get up close, he sweeps, fireballs
02:09 JT Tan We repeat this for 1 minute
02:09 井上ケン Just get the life lead and run away
02:10 JT Tan Yup tried
02:10 井上ケン This is how sf is played
02:10 JT Tan He does a million safe mids into sweep
02:10 JT Tan Then leaves
02:10 JT Tan For 1 minute
02:10 井上ケン You can jump over his sweep you know!
02:10 クリントン Lol
02:10 クリントン Ya
02:10 JT Tan His instant sweep
02:10 JT Tan Let me get on that
02:10 JT Tan As a tekken character
02:10 井上ケン Predict it coming
02:10 JT Tan ...
02:10 井上ケン This is how sf is played
02:10 JT Tan Ur answers do not help ken
02:10 井上ケン Just guess
02:11 井上ケン Fuck it
02:11 クリントン Footsies in SF are different
02:11 クリントン And sadly enough
02:11 井上ケン This is how sf is played
02:11 クリントン Walk speed is what saves you
02:11 JT Tan Agreed. And i repeat. Im chloe, the worst character in the game by a lot
02:11 クリントン But walk speed is so slow in this game
02:11 井上ケン Akuma has the fastest walk speed in sf
02:11 クリントン Ya
02:11 クリントン I know
02:11 クリントン But
02:11 クリントン I played rose
02:11 JT Tan U should prolly keep in mind chloe has no reason to be ducked. Especially when he can just ub out
02:11 クリントン And she had the best back dash so
02:11 クリントン Lol
02:11 JT Tan At point blank
02:12 JT Tan So ur entire argument does not help chlose
02:12 JT Tan Chloe
02:12 井上ケン Chloe needs to just guess to do dmg
02:12 JT Tan So in other words, pray
02:12 JT Tan Okay
02:12 井上ケン If you guess right you did 70%
02:13 JT Tan No i dont, i have to be bt
02:13 井上ケン Did you try running 3 after blocking a fireball?
02:13 JT Tan Bt means air fireballs
02:13 JT Tan Yup. He blocks it then ubs out
02:13 JT Tan Or teleport dashes out
02:13 JT Tan And i cry
02:13 井上ケン Then just do another running 3 if he teleports out
02:13 JT Tan Fff3 again?  Sure, oh he threw an air fireball. Im down 10 pts
02:13 井上ケン And then do it again
02:14 JT Tan Then 1 more for oki
02:14 JT Tan Oh im down 11
02:14 JT Tan Repeat
02:14 井上ケン "If" he teleports out
02:14 JT Tan For 1 minute
02:14 JT Tan Fff3 isnt long enuf
02:14 JT Tan To catch it
02:14 井上ケン The idea is, if you hit him once, he's dead
02:14 JT Tan My first thot was catch him
02:14 JT Tan Nope
02:14 JT Tan Lie
02:14 井上ケン Or in Tekken it's twice
02:14 JT Tan He has normal hp
02:14 JT Tan No reduce
02:14 JT Tan Not
02:15 JT Tan Chloe has no way to land the launcher on gouki
02:15 クリントン Ya
02:15 クリントン That is a huge buff
02:15 井上ケン You need to be doing strings against Akuma
02:15 JT Tan And then what? He blocks them all
02:15 JT Tan He can stop the ones everyone else can stop
02:15 JT Tan Did u know db4,4 can be stopped ON HIT?
02:15 井上ケン If he's just blocking, cut the string short and go for a 50/50
02:15 JT Tan She has nothing
02:15 Lychee Oh I'm starting to get this....
02:15 クリントン I can imagine kazuya f3 would stuff fireballs lol
02:16 井上ケン Yea I knew about the db4,4
02:16 JT Tan CHLOE
02:16 JT Tan Do u guys know who chloe is?
02:16 Lychee Wow what an interesting concept namco has given us...
02:16 JT Tan What she doesnt have?
02:16 井上ケン Yea the worst char in game next to gigas
02:16 JT Tan She has no substantial damage to make gouki scared
02:16 JT Tan If he just holds back
02:16 井上ケン Haha
02:16 井上ケン He can't hold back forever
02:17 JT Tan Yeah when he does air fireballs and UNSEEABLE SWEEPS
02:17 井上ケン He has to go to down back at some point
02:17 JT Tan For a guy whos an sf legend, u dont understand how fucked chloe is
02:17 井上ケン If you got swept it's your own damn fault. You should be crouch blocking when within his sweep range
02:17 JT Tan Oh he did when i did df4 and d3+4
02:18 Lychee Is sweep launch punishable?
02:18 井上ケン It should be if it isn't
02:18 JT Tan U mean while the mid fierce and fireballs and axe kicks were hailing?
02:18 JT Tan Which are safe, bfw
02:18 井上ケン If it isn't then fuck Jesus
02:18 JT Tan Btw
02:18 JT Tan Oh did i mention the low into fireball that u cant do shit about?
02:18 井上ケン Yea but they're not scary
02:18 Michael It's launch punishable
02:19 JT Tan Cuz even if u yomi the low, u lose 1 pt from firevall
02:19 井上ケン Just block the low into fireball
02:19 JT Tan Eat the point, get down on life
02:19 井上ケン Take the 1 or
02:19 Lychee Oh, well Uh justin.... I gotta say this...
02:19 Lychee Yomi.
02:19 井上ケン Take the 1pt of dmg, who cares
02:19 JT Tan Lychee i think u missed the flow chart of fuck chloe
02:19 JT Tan I will not repeat it
02:20 JT Tan I repeat my opening statement
02:20 JT Tan Gouki infinite stage fucks chloe
02:20 井上ケン If you don't wanna take the 1pt of dmg, stay outside of his low kick range, bait it out and whiff punish it
02:20 JT Tan This is a character specific issue
02:20 井上ケン Obviously easier said than done
02:20 JT Tan And... At what pointvdo i damage mr fireball jump spammer
02:20 JT Tan Oh i dont
02:20 Lychee If jackler can win with T3 Jack... Chloe should be no problem.
02:20 JT Tan Cuz MUGEN STAGE
02:21 井上ケン That don't mean shit. You'll eventually catch up to him and outguess him
02:21 Lychee Seriously T3 Jack was absolute garbage.
02:21 井上ケン If you don't then you need to play more
02:21 井上ケン He was indeed
02:21 JT Tan Lol... Let me get on that ken
02:21 井上ケン Anything is possible
02:21 JT Tan Oh i cant
02:21 JT Tan Betas over!
02:21 井上ケン The sky is the limit
02:21 JT Tan Lololol
02:22 井上ケン Well just wait till it comes out
02:22 井上ケン It's a bit too early to judge
02:22 JT Tan Daigos winning tekken evolution
02:22 Lychee How did jackler win and become so infamous? His amazing yomi.
02:22 JT Tan So sad
02:22 JT Tan Gouki spam op
02:22 井上ケン They may even change things drastically
02:22 井上ケン Dude it's too early
02:22 井上ケン Just give it time
02:22 JT Tan Great jackler, u won with an awful char vs tekken chars
02:22 JT Tan Get back to me when he does it vs gouki
02:23 JT Tan Who doesnt play by tekken logic
02:23 井上ケン I bet you he can and if he can't, given time he can figure it out
02:23 JT Tan Let me know when a character with no tools wins vs a char from a dif game
02:23 Lychee No seriously... Against a character that had a 10 frame unblock able launcher....
02:24 Lychee That does 70 percent damage.
02:24 井上ケン In Japan, 10-0 matchups not in your favor are winnable
02:24 JT Tan I still will say that if ur on the same plane of physics, i can believe it
02:24 JT Tan Ok, well lets readdress this in september
02:24 JT Tan Shall we
02:24 井上ケン We shall!!!!
02:25 井上ケン All you have to do is 50% dmg to Akuma with Chloe and then he can't do fireballs anymore
02:25 Lychee I will gladly take Gouki over T3 ogre.
02:25 井上ケン Me too
02:26 井上ケン I think Justin is thinking like this because he doesn't come from a game with 100% combos...and I'm not talking like combo vid combos, I'm talking 100% bread n butter combos
02:26 Lychee And to think... T3 Jack would be the worst character if he was pulled into this game.
02:27 井上ケン Jackler would prolly find a way to win if t3 jack was in
02:54 JT Tan Jeondding has seitei chloe, so i believe.
02:57 クリントン Totally off topic but did they take out the slow down feature?
02:57 クリントン I don't recall seeing it on the stream
03:04 井上ケン I think everyone was busy getting hit by rage attacks and rage arts to notice
03:04 井上ケン Rage activates MUCH MUCH earlier now
03:05 井上ケン I think you can have like 20% or so, maybe a bit less and rage activates
03:07 クリントン Yessssss
03:08 クリントン Looked like 40%
03:08 クリントン But the health bars are a lot bigger now
03:08 クリントン Not a fan of the color though
03:10 井上ケン http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2016/2/9/how-to-beat-akumas-fireballs-in-tekken-7-fated-retribution.html
03:10 井上ケン For Justin
03:11 JT Tan Down cover air fireballs nor low kick into firevall
03:11 JT Tan So that doesn't help me
03:11 JT Tan Doesnt
03:18 Kane (Derek) wait jt
03:19 Kane (Derek) gouki doesn't have an unseeable sweep
03:19 Kane (Derek) just look for the blue effect and chime
03:19 Kane (Derek) lmao
03:35 JT Tan ?
03:37 Kane (Derek) if u can block ling bt d3,4 u can block goukis sweep ez
03:37 JT Tan Pretty sure i refuted myself last thursday. Might wanna check your jokes.
03:38 Kane (Derek) oh I'm aware...but the fact that it went on for so long before you did had me covered in salt
03:39 JT Tan Should take a bath to wash that off.
03:40 JT Tan Couldve easily killed my argument by saying to recheck the trailer.
03:40 JT Tan Btw, double cali roll rage attack op. Lol
03:41 Kane (Derek) I figured you would've done your research and check it yourself.
03:41 Kane (Derek) anyway.