RoroToday at 15:02
why pursuit + vap in particular?
RoroToday at 15:10
rn you're lacking a real solution to restalk lax
tho i guess you can plan on just booming on it
Disaster AreaToday at 15:10
so my thinking was
RoroToday at 15:10
and 0 thunder switch
Disaster AreaToday at 15:10
the main things that
hound targets
RoroToday at 15:10
which is a lot more problematic
Disaster AreaToday at 15:10
is egg and jynx
RoroToday at 15:10
with cloyster/vap inviting the elecs
Disaster AreaToday at 15:10
and also it can thief lax
and i thought what mon likes that support the most
vap
cos it likes special walls thieved
egg pursuited and even tho jynx is not a vap answer
jynx feeds on offensive teams so u can go with quite an offensive vap team
i tried to just make the rest solid :blobshrug:
RoroToday at 15:11
egg doesnt do well vs vap tbh, it pretty much needs to boom
Disaster AreaToday at 15:11
with lax cloy zap lax answer
that was my logic
RoroToday at 15:11
i just think the team rn is way too weak to electrics in particular
Disaster AreaToday at 15:12
maybe steelix instead of gengar or something?
RoroToday at 15:12
thats what a lot of vap teams do
Disaster AreaToday at 15:12
or is there something else hound supports better maybe?
RoroToday at 15:12
from what ive read
machamp is a great partner
Disaster AreaToday at 15:13
hmmm yeah that also makes sense
altho then its kinda less key to use thief hound
thats why i was thinking like
what special attackers
dislike eggy and jynx
RoroToday at 15:13
yeah
tbh machamp rly dislikes those two too
Disaster AreaToday at 15:13
but i guess to some degree the answer is "zapdos"
so theres still a big upside to thief hound
so lax cloy zap thief hound machamp +1
how do u finish that
RoroToday at 15:13
its also making the best out of houndoom in general
Disaster AreaToday at 15:14
like steelix last or something?
RoroToday at 15:14
need a normal resist/switch somewhere
Disaster AreaToday at 15:14
yeah
just thinking as u said thunder switchins
too
RoroToday at 15:14
and ideally an electric immunity if you're not using restalk lax
Disaster AreaToday at 15:14
so presumably lix or golem or rhydon
RoroToday at 15:15
yeah or even nido if you just wanna delegate the normal switchin to smth else
nido + king is usually good offensive power
those teams are weak to jynx but you have houndoom to make up for it
and i'd finish with a normal check
Disaster AreaToday at 15:16
hmm yeah nidoking could be really cool too
and yeah making up for the jynx weakness of nidoking in that was
seems pretty unique and smart to me
anti metagame
so lax cloy zap hound nido +1
RoroToday at 15:16
jynx isnt used as much as it used to
bc of the restalk lax popularity
Disaster AreaToday at 15:21
hmm
i mean the team could be cool anyway
:blobshrug:
im not rly following the gsc meta :joy: but i guess resttalk lax being so big must have its downsides
RoroToday at 15:23
you can struggle against curse variants yeah
but curse variants usually have trouble having multiple shots through a game
Disaster AreaToday at 15:28
hmm
so if u go
nido cloy zap lax hound
i think ttar is annoying?
RoroToday at 15:37
yea
nido is good vs ttar tho
rn the biggest problem is the weakness to lax
Disaster AreaToday at 15:38
yeah i mean
im just thinking
how do u decide the lax answer in the final slot
RoroToday at 15:39
well
it depends bc lax has so many variations too
where is your machamp btw
i thought that was the last slot
fwiw machamp is a good offensive answer to lax
Disaster AreaToday at 15:39
oh was it
ok yeah champ works
RoroToday at 15:40
rn your team at least can beat lax down wheenver it tries to do smth
Disaster AreaToday at 15:40
thats a really cool team
i think
what sets
:KonataThink:
RoroToday at 15:40
eventually might be smth u want to incorporate into the team
your current structure often has suit ttar > houndoom for this reason
i think u cant afford to play it slow vs lax with 0 normal resist/switch
eventually might be smth u want to incorporate into the team
your current structure often has suit ttar > houndoom for this reason
Disaster AreaToday at 15:44
oops ur messages sent twice lol
yeah the team needs to be very aggressive
something like this? https://pokepast.es/a52a3b4ab5b7f742
not sure on nido / lax / champ sets exactly
RoroToday at 15:47
go with eq on machamp imo
hp ghost is useless with pursuit houndoom
otherwise its fine
just wondering if nido could run a funky move somewhere
like counter or thief
or maybe roar so zap can be a sleep absorber
Disaster AreaToday at 15:54
well hound is a sleep absorber of sorts
but only for some sleepers
ig
not nidokings
idk can u run miracle berry thief nidoking to sleep absorb against other nidos xD
the para support from zap is nice for machamp
and yeah i'll put eq on machamp i was just thinking about starmie
since hound doesnt really trap that
RoroToday at 16:02
true
Disaster AreaToday at 16:02
but i guess thats where lax comes into the picture
to punish starmie as well as electrics to a degree
https://pokepast.es/faee286d6ebe1406 so that then ig
RoroToday at 16:12
i'll try it on the ladder
Disaster AreaToday at 16:12
:smile: