tonycakesYesterday at 10:56 PM
is bobby really jailed for 7 days with no proof of him duo pvping?
just someone's word?
owen said he has video proof but has not provided it to anyone, can you get that for me to review perhaps?
LuthiusToday at 6:05 PM
We've been sent a bunch of videos of stuff $ has been doing include several with Bobby; I'm not sure what Owyns stance is on posting that info, but people in Discord have been sharing the videos so it shouldnt be hard to find
tonycakesToday at 6:10 PM
The only video ive seen is post jailing of bobby, before owyn would of even had video proof
LuthiusToday at 6:11 PM
Ive been sent videos by a number of people that I've forwarded to him
tonycakesToday at 6:12 PM
Ok well i have another issue
LuthiusToday at 6:12 PM
In any case, the rules are pretty straight forward for multiclienting in pvp-type scenarios and $ has been pushing the limits on that stuff for months now: I've seen a lot of stuff that I'm almost positive was multiclienting but we've mostly held off doing stuff until we've had proof
tonycakesToday at 6:13 PM
Rule 13 states that you have to be on same screen, 18 tiles with all your chatacters in a PVM situation. But as soon as youre flagged PVP you have to be 18 tiles away.
It is a contradiction in itself
The only type of pvp i support and play with in $, maybe a character dies of yours. You have your backup blue or red there.
On UOF recalling was allowed in dungeons. So we didnt have to have both characters already there
So to remain a small competitive guild thisnis our style of play. Or can ally and it will become who has the bigger zerg. Aka eqms server syndrom (trade mark btw)
The last time rekt raided us, they beought in 10 blue tamers then 15 reds, attackjng us while sicking all pets on  the boss at 10%
LuthiusToday at 6:18 PM
I told Bobby this but most of these alliances are occuring based on how $ is playing; same reason it happened on UOF
tonycakesToday at 6:18 PM
Its not true
These alliances are from UOF
Everyone came here in their small groups and started murging agajb
LuthiusToday at 6:19 PM
They didnt do it initially
tonycakesToday at 6:19 PM
Rekt was werkt on uof. The zerg that took over when eqms was banned
LuthiusToday at 6:19 PM
Its been 3 months and they only did it recently here
tonycakesToday at 6:19 PM
Either did money
They recruited me 2 months in
LuthiusToday at 6:19 PM
In any case, the rules apply to everyone
tonycakesToday at 6:19 PM
I played with hero
LuthiusToday at 6:20 PM
Because the population at large is largely fed up with people multiclienting / ghost scouting / camping bosses and other spots
tonycakesToday at 6:20 PM
Im just saying, with out proof it seems kinda shitty
Make it 1 IP per dungeon?
Add more gates
So if you die you can get out fast and in fast on another toon
Death gates btw
LuthiusToday at 6:20 PM
We've been watching $ play for months doing incredibly sketchy stuff that we couldn't prove initially, but were fairly certain were abusing the rules on them
And at this point I think Owyns pretty fed up with it
tonycakesToday at 6:21 PM
They are not, i used to lead $ 4 or 5 years ago on UOF
Everyone is an elite player
Well
Most
LuthiusToday at 6:21 PM
Ive seen you guys camping out all the time at stuff
tonycakesToday at 6:21 PM
Yeah
We want the island
Thats our goal
Is that not the point of the leader board?
LuthiusToday at 6:22 PM
with alt characters ready to go and using them in pvp scenarios
tonycakesToday at 6:22 PM
Once a chatacter is dead
I have my back up there
Because its 15v5
LuthiusToday at 6:22 PM
You arent allowed to violate the rules for client usage to do it though
tonycakesToday at 6:22 PM
Were not
So listen thats where im confuses
rule 13, have to be 18 tiles together. but right as you PVP u cannot be anywhere near or it is considered multi client pvp
thats the issue
how do we fix
that
we usually camp our reds somewhere else in the dungeon, while boss fighting but thats illegal considered camming
but if we are all grouped up
thats considered
multi clienting
so why not just make it 1 IP per dungeon ? makes it so NO one can multi client, and eliminates your need for rule 13
LuthiusToday at 6:25 PM
Thats potentially what we might end up doing, although a bunch of you guys are on VPNs so that doesnt really fix the situation
tonycakesToday at 6:27 PM
you know
all our accounts
3 per person
get a SS of 2 of those charactesr u can cross reference
dont even need video proof
well, unless shit heads are good at photosdhop these days
im getting old
be so harsh
on the rule too
its too much to police how it is right now
becuase even if 95% of the server trash talks money
its because they are 95% better then everyone, and dedicated , and mostly organized.
UO is not so much a game of skill, as it is of organization and numbers
LuthiusToday at 6:30 PM
I honestly dont care about what stuff's being said about $; as staff we see what activity is going on and almost everything $ does has some sort of multiclienting or something very near to it, and thats a major issue
tonycakesToday at 6:31 PM
thats how we remain small
i have 3 accounts
1 is a tamer
1 is level 7 eldrich
othe other level 6 shadow archer
each account has a red pvper on it
2 of my 3 accounts have blue mages
everyone is organized this way
because multi clienting PVM is allowed
and its the way the best players can remain a smaller, close knit, guild
i can back stab, hide, run in on ym mage throw 2 flame strikes, run away and med, while i have my red at the entrance defending the boss
red wouldnt be tehre if i could recall in
i dont think its that hard to understand our play style
we dont need to cheat
we play to our best abilities
pvpter aka generic tamer and bobby have had a blood fued for like 3 years now back from prior servevrs
bobby is hated here, and never talks so rarely on discord becuase of how he used to be on UOF
i think he is being unfairly jailed, becuase there is no proof of him 2 clienting becuase he wassnt even playing that account,. he was playing the peacer/disco of the boss and his red pvper
no human can play 3 accounts at once
its impossible
unless i had another arm
maybe
and aother eye