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- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Nolan
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Now
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: What are you going to banme for admin disrespect when you called me a fucking idiot?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I got MPF after applying to sandu when the server was still closed
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I spent 5 hours
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: 5 fucking hours
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: of proving myself to be competent
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: No, you got it by typing /plywhitelist 04 Civil Protection
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You do know I got superadmin 2 days ago
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Because I was willing to set some stuff on the map up for the server?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You don't even have any operators, admins.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You ONLY have super admins
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: nolan
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- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: oh dear what is going on
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: let me talk to you
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Because operators and admins have less fucking allowance of commands to use
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Admins think they don't have to apply for MPF
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Because the'yre admins
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: we litteraly have open 2 days ago
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: The owner said the servers been up for two weeks
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: So change what you juts said
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: mate
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: 2 weeks but closed
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: the server was close
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: we were testing
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You spent two weeks setting up THIS
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: A checkpoint and a few bins
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: nolan
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Real productive
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Setting up MPF, discussing rules, discussing how we will handle rebels, CWU, CSU, applications
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Real fucking productive
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: do you have any experience with developing plugins?
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: if you did, you'd know it isn't fucking easy
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You didn't devolop your own plugins
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Oh really now?
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: excuse mm?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You stole them all.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: what the fuck is going on
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: how the fuck do you even know that?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: can we all just calm down
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- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Let me tell you how
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- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: I clicked tab
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- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: directory
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: then plugins
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: None of them are yours
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- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You called me a "fucking idiot" 04
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Nolan
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: So don't go banning me for admin disrespect
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You are
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: a fucking idiot
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: mate even if we didnt develop all of our plugins, we have launched two days ago. do you expect a full-fledged staff team to be ready after two days?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You are legit retarded
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- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: you are behaving like a little child
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: the fuck is going on
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You are riling up hell over "it being super hard to get MPF"
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Your ratio was fucking AWFUL
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: 12 citizens
- Nolan Edgeworth says "[ 2 cps"
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: 2 cps*
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: if we handled applications on forums we wouldnt give MPF to some random fucking guy that just joined
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: do you want us to give cp to anyone who wants it?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You should do OOC apps.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: you are already a quarter to MPF the first day
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: we got way more players than we were expecting
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: nolan
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: please
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: the owner said today he was working on ooc apps
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: because the players wanted
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: it
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Henry
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Half the people who joined are banned
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: One question to you
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Because instead of teaching them
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Straight up
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: /plyban
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: are you actually joking?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: what
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: did you see what happened in the plaza?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: sir union is there a problem
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Nolan, you know they were VAC banned, in multiple minge groups and with previous minge names on steam?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Anyway
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Another thing about your retarded standards
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You have a weaboo rebel from japan
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: going around murdering random people
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Henry, I will take you away for a moment
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: with most liekly a katana
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: okay
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: are you his friend?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Yeah. I am friends with him. Kind of a bit out of the loop about whats happening
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Does he normally sperg out like this?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Uhhh, no. Dunno what's happening TBH
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: The problem is that he REALLY wants MPF
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Like what started a provocation here
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: and although hes well on his way to get MPF
- Badger has disconnected from the server.
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- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: He has a problem that he didint get it today
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- [OOC] Nolan Edgeworth: I rekt him so bad he dcced
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- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: So
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Help me out here
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: and calm him down
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: How about you fucking sort out your server
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: We were sorting out the server by banning minges that connected
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: sir nolan
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: next argument
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: The owner is the only one who knows what he's doing
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: check steam por favor
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- John Westernhigh has gone to MPF:UNION.04.828's location.
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- [OOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Right. I talked with Nolan. Here's what went down. http://pastebin.com/bW6rDfZJ
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- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Well. This has been something.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Mainpulative staff
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Who can disrespect but will ban us for "admin disrespect"
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Nolan
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I will not ban you for admin disrespect
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I am going to still stay by what I said
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Because you have no reason to
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I, personally think, you are a fucking idiot
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Why?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: I personall ythink you're a retarded admin who cannot do his job correctly
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: personally*
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: When the server owner was on you were spamming him non-stop about getting MPF
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: When he left
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Because you are disrespecting users
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You were spamming me about getting LP
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Here we are again about the name calling. :L
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: He left because this server got ddosed
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: No
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: He shut down the server because there were a ton of minges on
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: and he couldnt handle it
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Shows how good the staff are
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: If you resort to that
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Seems a bit impractical to me. I know at least four people were minging. You could've banned them in one fell swoop.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Two of the four were banned.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I could
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Those two will now attempt to glitch into the Nexus.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: What stops them from rejoining
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But the server was shut down before I banned the first one
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: The issue here
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: has began with one thing
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You player disrespecting
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Nolan, you got 5 LP
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You really want MPF
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I told you that its alot of LP for one day
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You are full of shit
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You said you got MPF in five hours
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: and that no competent admin will whitelist you after 1 day
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: YOU SAID
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: YOU GOT MPF
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: IN FIVE HOUS
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: hours*
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I got MPF because the server owner knew he could trust me
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: If they're competent RPers. They should be given a chance.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: What a mistake
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: he put us through a 5 hour testing peroid
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: a "tryout" if you would
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You're retarded
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: No minge is going to stay for a five fucking hour testing period.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: He knew that
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I proved myself
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: over and over again
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: so I got the whitelist
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: If you became a staff or MPF unit the system is broken
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: So why are we not applying this logic to other people? Give them multiple chances to prove ourselves.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: We are
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: How come you get the logic
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Thats why we are trying to do events
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You had 12 players who you could have taught how two RP
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: The problem is that I am trying to keep shit in check while RP'ing
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You'd be better on combine control
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Doing menial tasks that may or may not be rewarded at the hands of "Citizen. Apply." isn't exactly a vetting process. No true monitoring took place.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: I had a passive RP and units told us to fuck off
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Who?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: All we're doing really is praying to Christ, Allah, and Buddha that we get a number dinged on our record.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: your german female unit
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Who told you to fuck off
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I do not know that person
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Can you give me the person's numbers?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You don't know your fellow super admins
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: whatthefuck
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I will talk with sandu about that guy
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: one second
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You should give up administating
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Stick to female citizen erp
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Nolan
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I think we were past insults
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: And we were trying to figure out what is the problem you are trying to voice
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: other than "you are shit, I am good"
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Your staff have double standards
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Is admin disrespect allowed?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Is player disrespect allowed
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Remember what I said about proving ourselves?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You keep insulting me
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Instead of talking
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Doing menial tasks-
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Insulting back is not acceptable.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Yes, Henry
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: We could write out a six pargraph /me
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: That is double standards
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I can be insulted
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But I cant insult him
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: No
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You should be fucking better than the users.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You insulted me first
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You should be fucking mature.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Because you're immature
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Its rather hard to be
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: When you have someone just go
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You just admitted to not being mature
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You shouldn't resort to "WAHHHHHHHH HE SAID FUCK YOU FIRST". You should either shut the fuck up or resume the conversation calmly.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Get the fuck out of your staff rank
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: and insult you non stop
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: henry
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Look at Nolan right now
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: He is literally
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Doing the shit
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: that you are talking about
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You are attempting to justify the admins insulting the playerbase. This is fucking absurd.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: No
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I am not
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: What happened to being mature, and professional?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Now
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: Yes you fucking are
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Yes, you kind of are.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: That is double standards[LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I can be insulted[LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But I cant insult him
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You are actually attempting to justify returning fire.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Nolan, none of this would have happened if you didn't constantly spam the owner and super admins about getting civil protection. Your constant complaints are nothing to be proud of, and honestly if you don't like a server's rules, it's best for you
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: to leave.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Rather than being the fucking mature staff member you claim to be, you resort to calling people fucking idiots.
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: No, because unlike you I actually attempt to improve things I don't like
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: John, did you catch anything we said?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: 04 here just attempted to justify staff members insulting players.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: That is double standards[LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I can be insulted[LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But I cant insult him
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: A admin should be able to take insults and not cry about it
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: ANd respond calmlly
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Can you two hop out of observer so we know we are actually talking to you two?
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: calmly*
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I didn't say I agreed with what he did.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Danke. There's one.
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- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Alright
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Spoke to the owner
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Here is what he said to do
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: inb4 ban for admin disrespect when admin is disresecting users
- [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: disrespecting*
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Wait until he speaks for christ's sake...
- MPF:UNION.04.828 has banned 'Edgeworth' for 1.6666666666667e+018 hour(s) (Lack of cooperation with staff, constantly bugging staff, staff disrespect, complete dickhead).
- Edgeworth has disconnected from the server.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: what
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: mate
- [OOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: what the fuck
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: what was that
- [OOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Are you fucking serious right now?
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: we were actually close to coming up with a solution
- [OOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You are proving my very point at this rate. Instead of calmly retorting and explaining the problems. You just go "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET THE FUCK OUT ADMIN DISRESPECT".
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Now
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Your friend I was unable to reason with
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You on the other hand
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Do not seem like him
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You did make some valid points
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Communicated them calmly
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: So I'll leave this to you
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: What of maturity?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Dare I ask?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I am not banning you right now for one reason
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Our friend here, John. He agrees we were very close to a solution.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You bring up valid points, have reasonable complaints
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Union
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: On the other hand
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Your friend did NOT voice his complaints well
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Union
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I was spammed by him ever since the server started
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: How so? My point of me saying to start vetting users all stemmed from him.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: "oh can I report a IED being randomly in a building and get LP?"
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Stuff like that
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: If anything. A -major- point that bought up was from him.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Owner said he was spammed by him earlier
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I honestly won't make this any simpler, I think he came here to play with his friend, and would leave if he left...
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Is that correct, Henry
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You are correct. My friend may have prehaps been a tad bit nagging. But he was reasonable in my opinion.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He brought up points I felt were valid. Points that I agreed with.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: The nagging
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: is what got me
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I'm honestly at an impass
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: "You cant RP unless the admins approve it"
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Did you ever say for him to, you know. Tone it down a tiny bit>
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: When I only told him he cant make up random things happening
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: i tried
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: trust me
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: at the beginning in PM's I tried
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I can confirm
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: But honestly there is no way anyone can win this argument now
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I just cannot handle a constant barrage of what I would consider to be complete nonsense
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I can lower his ban to 3 days
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But that is only on one condition
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: If we unban him, he'll use this as a point against us and they'll win the argument and likely leave because of this whole situation
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: You make sure that when he comes back
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: That he tries to voice his complaints normally
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: But if we dont unban him, they'll probably leave too.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: We're going to lose two players either way.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: My friend is watching a livestream right now. One hosted by me.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I do not care if I lose an argument
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He has this to say.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: 1:02 PM - Edgeworth: I don't want to be with those retarded staff, tell them to perm me.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Well
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: There he goes
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Pretty much what irked me about him
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He has one more thing to say.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: And what would that be
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: one moment
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- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: "The union 04 is so awful at his job he didn't realise that he contradadicted himself in his ban reason when he said "staff disrespect, complete dickhead""
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He had that to say. He is sort of right, I feel.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: We seem to be unable to reach any sort of agreement.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: The agreement wont be reached anyway
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: That's what im trying to say.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: He doesnt like me
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Although I spent 1 hour trying to help him
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: With the 04 attempting to justify the insulting of players, and then this. I'm not sure what could happen at this rate.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: What of John?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Alright
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Could he be reasonable with John, prehaps?
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Well.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I tried to reason with him.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I am starting to stop taking this seriously
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: All I remember was him simply saying "Shut up, you're a temp sa, you arent supposed to handle this."
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: So yeah.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He did raise that point just now. I'm not sure what we can do at this point. We can't seem to raise any sort of valid resolution from this.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He's saying he never really said for you to "shut up" in a sense. Let me see if I can't find logs.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: he didn't exactly say shut up.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: [LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You're not even a SA, you're temp[LOOC] Nolan Edgeworth: You shouldn't be dealing with sits
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Yup.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Prehaps a bit of a blunt way of saying things. But he has a slight point. As someone who would be temporary, I am not sure a permanant solution should be made from someone who is not permanantly to enforce it. He could aid in finding a solution however.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I'm going to put all I've got on the table.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: it wasnt really a sit
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: All he wanted was a MPF whitelist
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: which it boils down to in the end
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I saw the logs of your friend constantly bugging the Union, and I can honestly understand why union called him an idiot.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I mean, everyone has a limit of patience.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: However, that doesn't make it right.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: It was an admin sit. It was the administrators attempting to resolve a situation over a potential rule breaking. One that a solution was to be found for.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Well there was no rule breaking at the time
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Another thing my friend wanted to say. The main thing isn't that he explicitly wanted an MPF whitelist. He just wanted something to do.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Things to do would come
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But minges came first
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: I mean, chatting with strangers isn't exactly going to end well unless prompted.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: There apparently was a rule broken. Apparently disrespecting is against the server rules if i'm reading correctly.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: That only happened later
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: It's obvious that he wouldn't have anything to do. The server got shut down because of the minge attack and almost everyone took it as a chance to take a break or just be done for the day.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: The only people left were you, him, and us two.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: And before the minges invaded?
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: After the inspection
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: There was plenty of passiveRP to go around doing.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Before the minges invaded, we were all holding our dicks talking about how something happened in a city that doesn't even exist.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: I had the idea to do a event in which citizens would go do some cleaning
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: for even more LP
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: but I wanted to do it after the CWU applicants came to me
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: But right after the Identity Inspection the minges came
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: and yeah
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: There wasn't much to do for entertainment value. No actual progression took place.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You think that we can not be bored by speaking about how "I'm SO DEPRESSED BECAUSE COMBINE KILLED FAMILY"
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I don't think that.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: But it isn't exactly easy to find an event which everyone will like.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Not much happened in the two or so hours we were on at all. Us two rescued a woman and then we sat around dicking around talking about Harambe, our lord and savior.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: The other six or seven people skipped straight to praising the Gorilla god.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Overall, most of the server had fuck-all to do.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Did you come here expecting a ton of action?
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: No. I expected something to actually be able to be done.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: We were opened 2 days ago
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Even a single event for 4 people
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: would require 1 admin to oversee it
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: I wasn't expecting rebels to invade the plaza and have us conscripted into the MPF. I was however expecting at least some form of activity to take place.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I don't know why you're blaming it on us to make things interesting. You could simply walk up to an officer and ask for something to do.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Ask to buy a shop, get a business, join the CWU, etc.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: You aren't exactly limited to just talking to eachother..
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Asking to buy a shop or business tend to require events actually taking place to reach that point. As in, tokens. CWU tends to as well require loyalty. The staff SHOULD be allowing people an enjoyable experience.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: They SHOULD be overseeing larger scale events that everyone can partake in.
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- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: As Union said, we were planning on doing so.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: Creating a large cleanup of the city everyone would take part in.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: But then minges attacked and noone came back.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: If I dare say for fear of getting banned for disrespecting the staff. The owner could've easily resolved the situation without taking a massive hit in players.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He could've easily banned all four minges and that would've been that.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: hes still really shaky about the server
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: ^
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: There's a certain point.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: He almost gave up halfway through
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: Hell, why is the server owner taking action in the first place? In fact, he assigned you, John. To deal with certain things as that.
- [LOOC] MPF:UNION.04.828: Didint have the time to deal with it
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: He was surveying the CID check.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: He is failing to let his own people do their job.
- SoClose has connected to the server.
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- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I found a mingerunner and was helpless to do anything. Noone can be at two places at once, so he assigned me to do it.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: I've been involved with the server's development and he's known me for a decent ammount of time, so he knew he could trust me.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: That still doesn't answer the question. He isn't allowing people he's trusted to do their job.
- [LOOC] Henry "Jerry" Anderstene: You could've easily, ANYONE could've easily banned all four minges that were screaming "14/88 GAS THE NIGGERS" with ease.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: We were going to do so.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: The server owner had a sort of "episode", and couldn't take any more.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: As we said, he is still very shaky about the server.
- [LOOC] John Westernhigh: He shut down the server and it was us who convinced him to reopen it and let us deal with the minges.
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