matter isn't closed

Session Start: Sun Mar 02 16:31:54 2014
Session Ident: #rebelyellops
[16:31] * Now talking in #rebelyellops
[16:31] * Topic is 'Casting call for new Good, Bad, Ugly - gmolly - o'cours - The Good! submit suggests for Bad and Ugly'
[16:31] * Set by gmolly on Fri Feb 28 07:56:31
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[16:32] * renton sets mode: +o gmolly
[16:32] * ED209 sets mode: +v gmolly
[16:36] <@gmolly> patron i think moebious was doing a schtick
[16:36] * Tina`a (~tinahe@irontiger.users.undernet.org) has joined #rebelyellops
[16:36] <@^Patron> No he was being his usual self
[16:36] * ED209 sets mode: +v Tina`a
[16:36] <+Tina`a> What was that for?
[16:36] <@gmolly> i don't know if his usual self *isn't* joking - i don't think this was unacceptasble
[16:36] * ED209 sets mode: +o Tina`a
[16:37] <@Tina`a> What was that for?
[16:37] <@Tina`a> sorry if I'm repeating but I was alittle lagged getting voiced
[16:37] <@Tina`a> are you telling him for swearing?
[16:37] <@^Patron> <+moebious> we wil fuck your angosaxon ass .. then pass you around to messicans and n*ggas
[16:37] <@gmolly> i saw that - and addressed it
[16:37] <@^Patron> <+moebious> fuck you, fath, joo bitch
[16:37] <@gmolly> i don't think he needed a !tell
[16:38] <@^Patron> Guideline 1
[16:38] <@gmolly> and it disrupted the chat
[16:38] <@gmolly> i'm sorry he left
[16:38] <@gmolly> his usual self is harsh - but i don't think it's too bad in the context of the room
[16:38] <@Tina`a> ^Patron and what is wrong with what he said? they were piling on him
[16:38] <@gmolly> we've lost his voice in this argument
[16:38] <@gmolly> yes - a pile-on is worth some consideration
[16:38] <@Tina`a> conversation killed
[16:39] <@gmolly> i agree
[16:39] <@gmolly> and i don't think it was necessary
[16:39] <@Tina`a> they were totes baiting him
[16:39] <@gmolly> now we've lost the opposition - tina is alone and has to carry all the water herself
[16:39] <@gmolly> unbalanced
[16:39] <@gmolly> yes - baiting - they 'won' and WE lost by letting them silence his voice rather than argue
[16:41] <@gmolly> i thought moebious was in the spirit of the pileon - maybe too much too 'too' - but not bad faithed
[16:41] <@^Patron> I thank you both of your opinions....
[16:41] <@^Patron> *for
[16:43] <@gmolly> i would like more allowance for people who are targeted by a pileon - in the middle of a discussion
[16:43] <@gmolly> yes - and i'm going to push for my opinion
[16:43] <@Tina`a> I'm sorry I don't even understand what he was silenced for
[16:43] <@gmolly> the 'anglosaxon ass comment and the joo bitch comments
[16:43] <@Tina`a> people talk about jews all the time in rebelyell
[16:43] <@gmolly> but i had already spoken to him patron
[16:44] <@Tina`a> ah come on
[16:44] <@Tina`a> are we back to Miss Prissy's library chat now?
[16:44] <@gmolly> i don't think two ops should op the same guy - especially if we're gonna disagree
[16:44] <@gmolly> and - i know this is gonna lose me some points - but i'm going to push for my thinking on this
[16:45] <@gmolly> this is kind of fun - it's rare i don't argue my side all by myself in #here
[16:51] <@gmolly> patron - had you spoken to/warned moebious before the !tell?
[16:52] <@^Patron> No you did
[16:52] * @Tina`a (~tinahe@irontiger.users.undernet.org) Quit (Quit: Quit: Eat your pheasant, drink your wine, your days are numbered, bourgeois swine)
[16:52] <@^Patron> What was his reply to you
[16:53] <@gmolly> he didn't reply - which was fine - he might not've seen, his second post wasn't that bad either
[16:53] <@^Patron> <@gmolly> oy moebious please
[16:53] <@^Patron> <+moebious> gmolly, get in line
[16:53] <@^Patron> Yes he did
[16:53] <@gmolly> my point is this - if i'm opping- you could let me handle it, if we disagree  - we should do that in #here
[16:53] <@gmolly> he was joking to my other comment
[16:53] <@gmolly> i took ut as as joke - and not worth 'opping' for
[16:54] <@^Patron> Matter is closed as far as I am concerened....no discussion required....
[16:55] <@gmolly> well.... i disagree - i'm 'unhappy' - i think you could be mildly interested and respectful of my happiness
[16:55] <@gmolly> we disagree on this opping - i had spoken first - i was active and opping - you should not be jumping in front of me i think
[16:55] <@gmolly> i don't like the idea of two or more ops pouncing on a chatter
[16:56] <@gmolly> matter isn't closed - i see a problem here - indi flounced off today because we disagree on an opping matter
[16:57] <@gmolly> now you're 'dismissing' our disagreement - albeit i won't undo your action/decision - i think you *could* respect my disagreement if not my position
[16:58] <@gmolly> in fact - i'm going to ask that in future - we work more closely together on these tells and bans - mention or run it by the other op in #here - especially if the other active op is the cm - me
[17:00] <@gmolly> moebious was not disrupting chat - he was a major part of it, he wasn't out of line if he was close to it - the *opping* action disrupted/derailed the discussion
[17:01] <@gmolly> that's exactly what we don't want - nobody was hurt by his comments, becoming unhinged because he was too vile