TG_Griffin's interview [Public]

DatBerry - Today at 5:38 PM
tell me when you're ready for your mod interviw
Griffin - Today at 5:39 PM
I'm good now!
DatBerry - Today at 5:39 PM
alright
to start off, here's most of the powers you'll have as a trial mod:
you can adminPM (bwoink)
check and place mod/admin visible notes on players
check and place warnings with a notes section similar to above
you can temp server and job ban
you can wind (admin freeze) player controlled mobs
you can defuse welder bombs
you can adminghost and move around the place and then return to your body (think the wizard's etheral jaunt but for OOC purposes only)
Griffin - Today at 5:42 PM
Alrighty, understood
DatBerry - Today at 5:43 PM
Alright, so the questions will mostly be in the "scenario happens and what do u do" format.
first question, a player joins with the name Big Daddy, a quick check from the Who command shows his account is 210 days, and is surprisingly a regular
what do you do?
Griffin - Today at 5:44 PM
Alright, I'm ready for the questions
I'd admin PM the player, informing them that characters must have realistic first and last names and that the name they've picked is unacceptable. As they're a regular player and are expected to know this rule already I'd warn them and then get their name changed to something more acceptable
DatBerry - Today at 5:48 PM
they apologize, but another mod points out they have a note and warning about similar stuff before
Griffin - Today at 5:51 PM
As there was already a previous warning for the same rulebreak it would go to a temporary ban. This is something I'd consult with a moderator or admin before handing out however
DatBerry - Today at 5:52 PM
Alright
Scenario 2:
You get an ahelp about gank,
request for help:: Bob Bobson (player123) (DIBS) (JUMP) "this fucking traitor just ganked me for no reason??? I was walking in the hallways and he just sleepy pens me and kills me in maints"
Griffin - Today at 5:56 PM
My first step would be contacting the player for more information and a name. With that information I'd then contact the antagonist and question them, informing them that an antagonist is there to enrich and create fun RP. I would give them a warning for their behaviour- quoting or linking them to the appropriate rules
Should the antagonist of course be guilty of the aforementioned report. If not I'd contact the reporting player and inform them that there was no rules broken
DatBerry - Today at 5:57 PM
you question the antag, who says he was trying to roleplay with his victim but the victim kept making excuses to run away from him, until he finally decided to go the sleepy pen route
Griffin - Today at 5:59 PM
In that case I'd again return to the reporting player and question them with this newfound knowledge. I'd also point out the importance of fear and pain RP and that when a character is faced with a threatening action or situation they should act accordingly
DatBerry - Today at 6:00 PM
the player says he doesn't think it counts as roleplay because they just tried to talk and they walked past them, and didn't become a threat until the sleepy pen attack
Griffin - Today at 6:13 PM
At this point it turns into a he said she said situation. I'd gather logs from the game chat, isolating what each character did before returning to the players depending on what the logs showed me.
DatBerry - Today at 6:14 PM
a mod points out they're both saying the same thing.
Griffin - Today at 6:30 PM
As they're both saying the same thing, i'd speak to them about the importance of roleplaying a situation properly, telling the antag that there should be a leadup to an action like that. I'd also tell the reporting player that it is important to alow a player time to roleplay an action out and avoiding characters for no reason can be seen as metagaming.
DatBerry - Today at 6:32 PM
the antag says he tried to roleplay but the victim simply didn't give him a chance, and the victim says he doesn't care because he was busy In character citing his job.
Both are not convinced by your notes regarding their own playstyle, believing the other is at fault.
Griffin - Today at 6:34 PM
What was bob's job?
DatBerry - Today at 6:34 PM
an engineer
Griffin - Today at 6:38 PM
I'd check both players notes to see if anything important is written about them.
DatBerry - Today at 6:39 PM
they have no notes related to the incident, just some cryoing with gears, IC in OOCy etc
Griffin - Today at 6:45 PM
At this stage it would be going in circules, I would inform the antagonist that from now on they are to drive story as it explicitly states not to gank and that the primary roll of the antagonist is to create RP. I'd inform the reporting player that the situation has been delt with and also add that while engineering is important the role shouldn't interupt or remove you from RP. After that i'd put a note on both of them about the situation, reguarding what happened and how it was delt with.
DatBerry - Today at 6:50 PM
alright.
Scenario 3:
you just logged in and found yourself alone on the server without any other staff, suddenly there's a bunch of these logs
bob bobson attacked sss'sskis mssss'ss with the toolbox
sss'sskis mssss'ss clawed bob bobson
bob bobson attacked sss'sskis mssss'ss with the toolbox
sss'sskis mssss'ss clawed bob bobson
bob bobson attacked sss'sskis mssss'ss with the toolbox
sss'sskis mssss'ss clawed bob bobson
bob bobson attacked sss'sskis mssss'ss with the toolbox
sss'sskis mssss'ss clawed bob bobson
a quick check shows none are antags
Griffin - Today at 6:59 PM
I'd quickly jump to the players and observe, while fighting is not against the rules i'd check both players notes and keep on the lookout for any reports.
DatBerry - Today at 7:34 PM
ok
sorry for the delay
Griffin - Today at 7:34 PM
No worries!
DatBerry - Today at 7:34 PM
the unathi wins after beating the human to crit and wanders off without taking them to medical, the human eventually dies and complains in deadchat about the unathi
Griffin - Today at 7:35 PM
I'd adminPM the dead human after seeing the complaints and ask what happened.
DatBerry - Today at 7:36 PM
the human, bob bobson says the unathi who was an engineer started a fight with him when said unathi ignored his requests to get him to fix something in his department
Griffin - Today at 7:37 PM
I'd check the attack logs before responding.
DatBerry - Today at 7:38 PM
brb again
Griffin - Today at 7:39 PM
Take your time!
DatBerry - Today at 7:44 PM
their attack records show a disarm attempt by the engineer followed by two claws from the unathi, who then gets stabbed by the butterfly knife and the respond with using the steel spear
Griffin - Today at 7:47 PM
The unathi disarmed followed by attacking with the claws?
DatBerry - Today at 7:47 PM
ah ops
i meant by bob bobson
let's say he's a cargo tech, and this happened in the cargo bay
Griffin - Today at 7:48 PM
Alright
My next step from getting this information would be to probe the unathi player on the fight, politely asking for their side of the story
DatBerry - Today at 8:14 PM
ah sorry, things keep popping up
anyway, the unathi says his character's honor was challanged with slander from bob and he confronted him, and then a fight broke out
Griffin - Today at 8:18 PM
Looking at their notes, would it reveal any past issues for either character?
DatBerry - Today at 8:18 PM
the unathi has a note about being over aggressive but logging before being contacted, bob has a note about self antagging with a gun
Griffin - Today at 8:25 PM
Would I be able to tell if the Unathi was pulling punches with the claws?
Through the logs
DatBerry - Today at 8:27 PM
it would, and he wasn't
Griffin - Today at 8:27 PM
My first port of call would be speaking to the unathi about the escelation of violence, as they responded to a disarm with a violent attack. It stated in the rules that fights need to be believeable and while they can turn into something that results in a death, jumping  to lethal force instantly comes under breaking said rule. I'd also point out that there has been a history of over agressive action and give them a warning for it.(edited)
DatBerry - Today at 8:28 PM
what about bob bobson? do you think he was in the clear?
Griffin - Today at 8:35 PM
No, this ties in with my next course of action. I'd speak to Bob about an important aspect of RP, that being fear and pain RP. Though not as serious as the violence the unathi showed it is still something to point out for the next time something like this could happen. Pulling a knife on an Unathi who is trying to maim you is understandable if not a little underplayed in the fear department. I'd add notes to both characters. The agression and warning for the Unathi and the fear RP and Pain RP for the human.
DatBerry - Today at 8:36 PM
bob bobson says he had to, the engineer hacked into his department with a spear on his back.
the unathi said the note was from when he was playing a human, and that this is valid due to being a unathi with a valid RP reason to be angry enough to spill blood
Griffin - Today at 8:40 PM
I'd point out to Bob that it is not his job to confront intruders, security should be called and left to deal with the situation. With the unathi i'd point out that again its not a realistic escelation of violence. As someone with an unathi whitelist I understand that honor means everything to them. However responding to an insult and a disarm with lethal force is escellating a situation past acceptable bounderies. Maiming a crewmember to the point of death for an insult, honor stained or not is unacceptable.
DatBerry - Today at 8:46 PM
bob replies with "are you fucking retarded?? he fucking broke into my department with a spear strapped to his fucking back I didn't have time to call for security you fucktard!"
the unathi player responds "if you have an issue make a player complaint on the forums, I'm playing the race as it's supposed to be, only the loredev can tell me otherwise"
Griffin - Today at 8:50 PM
My responce to bob would be refering to the logs where i'd point out that he attacked first with a disarm, i'd also let him know that I was not telling Bob off but giving him some friendly advice for future and now they are recieving a warning for their attitude towards me. Which breaks the first rule for general behavior. In responce to the Unathi player i'd once again point out that whitelists and loredevs do not overule the servers base rules and it was still an over escelation of violence.(edited)
DatBerry - Today at 8:53 PM
bob's reply, "well maybe you should've made it sound like one dickhead fuck this server i'm out"
unathi's reply, "it's not overescalation if I have RP reasons for it?? please get me an admin to talk to, you trial obviously don't know what you're doing"
Griffin - Today at 8:56 PM
I'd add a note to Bob about this and alow them to leave and cool off, as the unathi player is unhappy i'd point them towards the staff complains section on the forums before contacting an admin on discord since there are none online and explain breifly what had happened.
DatBerry - Today at 8:58 PM
alright
DatBerry - Today at 9:00 PM
scenario #n (i forgot the number by now)
the round is merc/heist but you were uninvolved ICly most of it, you get an ahelp about a quartermaster powergaming and valid hunting, you jump to find yourself at the cargo top level, with mercs in the cargo bay and the QM near the elevator trading shots and taking cover
the QM seems to be beating the mercs who fail to push him back, and one of them actually falls to crit, the QM fighting back with a shotgun full of slugs(edited)
Griffin - Today at 9:02 PM
Who is the Ahelp from?
DatBerry - Today at 9:03 PM
from a cargo tech who seems to have left cargo
Griffin - Today at 9:04 PM
My first port of call would be to get the cargo tech to elaborate as much as they can on the situation while observing the fight.
DatBerry - Today at 9:05 PM
cargo tech says he was pulling some crates when mercs came out from maintenance and tried to kidnap him into slavery (as they've announced over comms) when the QM who was in the mailing office intervined to help the CT escape
the CT says he doesn't think the QM has the skills to fight
Griffin - Today at 9:06 PM
I'd ask how the QM intervined, was it with the shotgun?
DatBerry - Today at 9:06 PM
yes, he shot at them when they approached the CT
Griffin - Today at 9:07 PM
Checking through the relevent attack logs what would I find?
DatBerry - Today at 9:10 PM
you can check attack logs of mobs through variable view, the mercs have attack logs of shooting securiting and slapping some others with energy swords and lastly getting shot by slugs, the QM only has attack logs of shooting the mercs, with no logs of him getting shot
the merc who died ahelps too,
Request for help:: (dibs) (jump) (vv) Dark Shadow Ranger / (player1234) "the QM is powergaming and validhunting, please deal with him"
Griffin - Today at 9:15 PM
I'd take that report and let the player know i'm looking into it. Swiftly moving to the fight i'd contact the quatermaster with the same question as to how the fight started.
While i've been told by the CT and the logs have shown similar i'd also like to see the QM's side. Though its becoming obvious that they are breaking multiple rules such as valid and fear RP
DatBerry - Today at 9:16 PM
the QM says he's currently busy, as he stops to respond the mercs take the chance to rush him and start shooting him
Griffin - Today at 9:21 PM
Ah, I thought the fight was over because of the dead merc. In the case of the fight still ongoing i'd have waited for it to resolve before interfearing.
However in the case that my message caused the QM to pause i'd still let the fight play out as to not disrupt rp anymore. I'd then contact the QM after about validhunting and fear RP.
DatBerry - Today at 9:37 PM
the mercs pull out and the QM gets on the elevator and moves to the lower levels to respond
he explains that when sec died to the mercs the heads of staff allowed crew to arm up, and as he was sending packages in the mail office he heard his cargo tech ask for help, he helped them escape, but was unable to escape the mercs without putting himself in serious harm
Griffin - Today at 9:53 PM
Sorry for the delay
DatBerry - Today at 9:53 PM
it's ok
Griffin - Today at 9:54 PM
Are there any heads of staff on?
DatBerry - Today at 9:54 PM
Yes, it seems the HoS died, but there's a CE and a CMO
Griffin - Today at 9:54 PM
And I assume that security is indeed wiped out
I'd ask the CE if the crew were indeed told to arm up just to confirm if that's true or not
DatBerry - Today at 9:56 PM
CE says he doesn't know he was just bunkering up in the tesla room with his engineers
Griffin - Today at 9:56 PM
I'd then ask the CMO the same question
DatBerry - Today at 9:58 PM
CMO said he told crew to defend themselves from the slavers that killed security and some crew
Griffin - Today at 10:04 PM
I'd return  to the dead merc who submitted a report and ask for their side of the story before finally deciding what to do
DatBerry - Today at 10:05 PM
the merc says they were just trying to RP with the cargo tech when the QM came and tried to rambo them
Griffin - Today at 10:10 PM
Taking what the cargo tech said in the initial report about being kept hostage and calling over coms, the fact that the CMO gave the crew permission to arm themselves and the fact that the mercenaries have already attacked and killed the security team AND the fact that both parties retreated I'd add notes to each party and leave it there. However I'd keep an eye on the Quatermaster from now on.
DatBerry - Today at 10:11 PM
so do you think it's validhunting or powergaming?
why or why not for both(edited)
Griffin - Today at 10:22 PM
I think the QM brushed up slightly on Powergaming by putting themselves at risk and trying to take all the antags on to defend the CTech and i'd point that out, however due to the way the round has been with the security team wiped out and head of staff giving the crew permission to arm and defend themselves I wouldn't hand out any warnings. As said above though i'd keep an eye on the QM for future reference.(edited)
DatBerry - Today at 10:23 PM
alright, that's about it for scenario questions, now some general server related questions
what do you think of the staff team's approach to issues and how well do you think they deal with them?
Griffin - Today at 10:28 PM
I've never personally had issues with the staff team and how they deal with things. Because I started playing SS13 on aurora I made my fair share of mistakes and have been spoken to, each time they were polite, fair and transparent.
I think the warning system is good, and I haven't an issue with how it's implemented by staff
DatBerry - Today at 10:29 PM
do you think there's anything the staff team could or needs to improve in?
Griffin - Today at 10:32 PM
Nothing that comes to the top of my head!