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  2. Session Start: Fri May 05 17:25:33 2017
  3. Session Ident: Oldee
  4. [17:25] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  5. [17:25] <Oldee> 54.174.122.119
  6. Session Close: Fri May 05 17:42:40 2017
  7.  
  8. Session Start: Mon May 22 21:23:17 2017
  9. Session Ident: Oldee
  10. [21:23] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  11. 04[21:23] <Oldee> Sep
  12. 01[21:23] <Sep> ye
  13. [21:24] <Oldee> Not saying the sewer gang is trusted here, but getting some pictures saying they were killing you for your looted sets yesterday.
  14. 01[21:24] <Sep> looting rune gold and shit ye prob some rune in there aswell
  15. [21:24] <Oldee> and what were you doing with that loot
  16. 01[21:24] <Sep> putting it in my bank
  17. [21:25] <Oldee> so walking down and banking it?
  18. 01[21:25] <Sep> i died twice
  19. 01[21:25] <Sep> 1st time normal
  20. 01[21:25] <Sep> 2nd time with loot
  21. 01[21:25] <Sep> 3rd time i had an inv of loot
  22. 01[21:25] <Sep> which
  23. 01[21:25] <Sep> was banked
  24. [21:26] <Oldee> and how was the third time banked if you died
  25. [21:26] <Oldee> oh
  26. [21:26] <Oldee> nvm
  27. [21:26] <Oldee> u didnt die third time
  28. [21:27] <Oldee> I think it's pretty clear you shouldn't be looting in our fights for us to be competitive. I get maybe you didn't die much like some of us, but it's not productive.
  29. [21:27] <Oldee> and has always been the case
  30. 01[21:28] <Sep> eh ill do it if i feel the need to
  31. 01[21:28] <Sep> whether its trading rune to timpsu for food and ppots or just simply for my own game
  32. 01[21:28] <Sep> im reliable in the end i aint fucking around where i shouldnt be
  33. 01[21:28] <Sep> picking up some rune
  34. 01[21:28] <Sep> who cares
  35. [21:29] <Oldee> it takes away from your performance when we need it. It's just like why we can't have people off sniping etc unless told to
  36. 01[21:31] <Sep> perspective > fun
  37. [21:32] <Oldee> it's about striking that balance. If we let people do whatever they deemed was fun, we wouldn't get very far.
  38. 01[21:32] <Sep> balance
  39. 01[21:32] <Sep> your here calling me out on having rune first image you've seen of it
  40. 01[21:32] <Sep> i/we've barely taken a first step
  41. [21:33] <Oldee> I'm saying people are telling me you are looting during fights. Something we've always been against. So if you're looting there's a good chance you're doing your own thing.
  42. 01[21:33] <Sep> your perspective is that me looting rune for a few moments is taking away from my performance
  43. 01[21:33] <Sep> me looting that rune gave me 2 - 3 minutes of fun out of a 2 hours shout session
  44. [21:33] <Oldee> Imagine if everyone took 2-3 minutes to do their own thing though. and imagine if they all took the same 2-3 minutes
  45. 01[21:34] <Sep> you want to watch me and see if im following piles by all means
  46. 01[21:34] <Sep> go ahead
  47. [21:34] <Oldee> not necessary
  48. 01[21:34] <Sep> then why are we having the conversation
  49. 01[21:34] <Sep> i had rune in my invent
  50. 01[21:34] <Sep> if u dont believe me to be doing my own thing lol
  51. [21:36] <Oldee> I don't need to watch you and babysit you to follow simple rules. I'm not here to attack you, so I don't really understand why it's gotta be something that comes with attitude.
  52. 01[21:38] <Sep> i dont understand why the first kill pic of me looting rune you're coming to me pming about it lol
  53. 01[21:38] <Sep> is there a pic of me walking down with it
  54. [21:41] <Oldee> basically all I'm trying to say is, looting is against our rules in capped fights where we return. Everyone knows that. So I'm trying to clear that up with you.
  55. [21:41] <Oldee> And you were honest with me and told me you were looting.
  56. [21:41] <Oldee> But seem to think it's okay still because you're having fun doing it.
  57. 01[21:41] <Sep> yeah
  58. 01[21:41] <Sep> playing a game
  59. 01[21:42] <Sep> having a few moments to myself
  60. 01[21:42] <Sep> within a moment
  61. 01[21:42] <Sep> everyone does it
  62. 01[21:42] <Sep> your not going to control that
  63. 01[21:42] <Sep> you can say yeah sep did it this time hes gonna do it again
  64. 01[21:42] <Sep> yea if everyone does it we'll be screwed
  65. [21:42] <Oldee> Sure, but when we war as a clan we have a particular way we do it and that's how this clan runs. No one's saying when opportunities present itself you can't have fun, but looting during fights isn't one of them.
  66. 01[21:43] <Sep> listen if a rune gold set drops and i get the kill im gonna loot it
  67. 01[21:43] <Sep> if i feel like picking up my rune off the ground im going to do it
  68. 01[21:44] <Sep> to say im doing it everytime sure not a chance
  69. 01[21:44] <Sep> but if i want to
  70. 01[21:44] <Sep> yeah
  71. 01[21:44] <Sep> im gonna do it
  72. 01[21:47] <Sep> you really wana have a laugh about it i got a poke from bball after looting the rune gold armour set saying he died for my sins cuz he knew exactly what i was doing he had no problem with it either
  73. [21:47] <Oldee> Appreciate the honesty, but wrong mentality to have. I can assure you bball is not okay with it as long as the rest of the leadership team.
  74. [21:47] <Oldee> as well as*
  75. 01[21:48] <Sep> lol k
  76. Session Close: Mon May 22 21:48:10 2017
  77.  
  78. Session Start: Mon May 22 21:48:59 2017
  79. Session Ident: Oldee
  80. [21:48] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  81. [21:48] <Oldee> It's just how it works. There's rules, you follow them. You may not agree or enjoy everything we do, but sometimes you gotta do what's best for the clan. If everyone chose ignore rules they didn't like we'd have a lot of problems as a clan.
  82. 01[21:49] <Sep> nah man there are rules and i do follow them and u fucking know it i dont fuck around majority of the time
  83. 01[21:49] <Sep> i fucking looted one set of rune
  84. 01[21:49] <Sep> maybe 5
  85. 01[21:49] <Sep> maybe 6
  86. 01[21:49] <Sep> who fucking knows
  87. 01[21:49] <Sep> i dont care honestly
  88. 01[21:49] <Sep> i was enjoying myself
  89. [21:49] <Oldee> I'm not saying you don't follow the majority of our rules.
  90. 01[21:49] <Sep> and ur not gonna take that shit away from me lmao
  91. [21:50] <Oldee> All I'm saying is you've raised the point that you don't agree with the looting rule and you're going to do it no matter what because you enjoy it.
  92. 01[21:50] <Sep> i havnt raise a issue with it at all lmao you brought up a issue with me having a rune set on me like it was a huge issue how many pictues do u have of it
  93. 01[21:50] <Sep> how many sets were on me
  94. 01[21:50] <Sep> what was it
  95. 01[21:50] <Sep> my gold set
  96. 01[21:51] <Sep> then my original rune set
  97. 01[21:51] <Sep> show me the shit
  98. [21:52] <Oldee> it doesn't matter what it was, it's more the act of looting. The point is if there's rules, and you think it's okay to break them, how can I ever enforce anything? What if someone doesn't want to meet a particular req because they disagree with it? What if someone doesnt want to meet the ballista req bec they never use it? What if they claim they dont need 99 range because they always mage?
  99. [21:53] <Oldee> Everyone has rules they don't agree with or enjoy, there's no question to that.
  100. [21:53] <Oldee> But rules are there to be followed as a whole, not exceptions. This isn't something to do with just you.
  101. 01[21:53] <Sep> show me the picture
  102. [21:54] <Oldee> I mean you admitted to me you looted during the fight, I'm not sure what you are looking for me to explain here.
  103. 01[21:54] <Sep> show me the picture
  104. [21:54] <Oldee> for what purpose?
  105. 01[21:54] <Sep> you've raised your point and concern about what the issue is
  106. 01[21:54] <Sep> ive admitted to it
  107. 01[21:54] <Sep> show me the picture
  108. 01[21:54] <Sep> im asking you toi
  109. 01[21:54] <Sep> do it
  110. [21:54] <Oldee> so you want proof of how I knew or what I asked?
  111. [21:54] <Oldee> why I asked*
  112. 01[21:54] <Sep> i want to see your proof and the contents of it
  113. 01[21:54] <Sep> now
  114. 01[21:55] <Sep> text irc pics
  115. 01[21:55] <Sep> whatever it is
  116. 01[21:55] <Sep> go
  117. 01[21:55] <Sep> idgaf who is involved in it whos its from
  118. 01[21:55] <Sep> w\e
  119. [21:55] <Oldee> it's all over zybez
  120. 01[21:55] <Sep> ite
  121. 01[21:55] <Sep> show me
  122. 01[21:55] <Sep> links
  123. 01[21:56] <Sep> im not gonna go looking for it
  124. [21:56] <Oldee> it's on our day out topic: http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1779420-damage-incorporateds-official-return-to-the-wild/page-4#entry17131003
  125. [21:56] <Oldee> there's pics throughout but earlier on
  126. 01[21:56] <Sep> collect them
  127. 01[21:56] <Sep> as you have to come to me
  128. 01[21:56] <Sep> with what you have
  129. 01[21:57] <Sep> Whatitbodoo thanks for the clean 1v1 fight at gds while your team fought against downfall
  130. 01[21:57] <Sep> he got it right
  131. 01[21:57] <Sep> u didnt
  132. [21:57] <Oldee> what?
  133. 01[21:57] <Sep> Whatitbodoo thanks for the clean 1v1 fight at gds while your team fought against downfall
  134. 01[21:57] <Sep> Whatitbodoo
  135. [21:57] <Oldee> lol
  136. [21:57] <Oldee> who is whatitdoboo
  137. 01[21:57] <Sep> no
  138. 01[21:57] <Sep> please
  139. 01[21:57] <Sep> continue with the rest of ur proof
  140. 01[21:57] <Sep> please
  141. 01[21:58] <Sep> link by link
  142. 01[21:58] <Sep> copy and paste by copy and paste
  143. [21:58] <Oldee> the point was the point was addressed and I came to you for your perspective. You clearly outlined how you looted. So now we have a bigger problem. I'll admit that rsn is wrong which isn't you. Meaning others are doing it.
  144. 01[21:59] <Sep> so
  145. 01[21:59] <Sep> your proof
  146. 01[21:59] <Sep> is simply that line of text
  147. 01[21:59] <Sep> and the following one
  148. 01[21:59] <Sep> ty
  149. 01[21:59] <Sep> speak to beverson regarding the hopping to worlds
  150. 01[21:59] <Sep> next time
  151. 01[21:59] <Sep> come to me witha picture
  152. 01[21:59] <Sep> not shit on a fucking public forum
  153. [21:59] <Oldee> My proof is you telling me you looted.
  154. 01[21:59] <Sep> im done talking about this
  155. Session Close: Mon May 22 21:59:51 2017
  156.  
  157. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:00:03 2017
  158. Session Ident: Oldee
  159. [22:00] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  160. [22:00] <Oldee> it doesnt matter what picture someone has or what they say
  161. [22:00] <Oldee> people lie
  162. 01[22:00] <Sep> yeah
  163. [22:00] <Oldee> which is why I came to you to hear your side
  164. 01[22:00] <Sep> so ur coming to me based on this
  165. 01[22:00] <Sep> and i said yeah
  166. [22:00] <Oldee> and you were honest and said you looted
  167. 01[22:00] <Sep> i had rune gold on me
  168. 01[22:00] <Sep> and an extra set
  169. 01[22:00] <Sep> i had a fucking rune gold set on me
  170. 01[22:00] <Sep> fuck off man
  171. 01[22:00] <Sep> srsly
  172. 01[22:00] <Sep> if ur gonna keep pming me about this
  173. 01[22:01] <Sep> ill put u on ignore like bball leaving highlights from zaza and ffsm8 that i will recieve
  174. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:01:14 2017
  175.  
  176. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:02:15 2017
  177. Session Ident: Oldee
  178. [22:02] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  179. [22:02] <Oldee> If you can't communicate in an orderly fashion with your leader, I don't see why you would still be here.
  180. 01[22:02] <Sep> you're sitting above me trying to control every string you can at this point because i picked up a fucking rune set i could look flashier in while at a fight and your continuing your crusade
  181. 01[22:02] <Sep> for no fucking reason
  182. 01[22:02] <Sep> i follow ur fucking piles
  183. 01[22:02] <Sep> i looted a fucking flashing rune gold set
  184. 01[22:03] <Sep> and ur still coming at me
  185. 01[22:03] <Sep> telling me im in the wrong
  186. 01[22:03] <Sep> you cant fucking control every fucking little aspect i broke a fucking tiny ass rule that hurt fucking nobody jesus christ
  187. 01[22:03] <Sep> drop it
  188. [22:03] <Oldee> I have zero desire to try to control you in ways that aren't far. All I'm saying is we have simple rules to follow such as no looting and we expect every member to follow them.
  189. 01[22:03] <Sep> kick me if u feel the need go for it
  190. [22:03] <Oldee> arent fair*
  191. 01[22:04] <Sep> once again
  192. 01[22:04] <Sep> your dragging this out
  193. 01[22:04] <Sep> because i admitted
  194. 01[22:04] <Sep> to fucking looting a rune gold set
  195. 01[22:04] <Sep> and that isnt even the issue at hand
  196. [22:04] <Oldee> Like I said it's as simple as you acknowledging it's a rule and moving on without continuing but you keep telling em
  197. 01[22:04] <Sep> you came to talk to me about
  198. [22:04] <Oldee> you are gonna continue and dont care
  199. [22:04] <Oldee> which brings me to the major problem
  200. 01[22:04] <Sep> because if i want to loot a fucking rune gold set yeah
  201. 01[22:04] <Sep> im gonna do it
  202. 01[22:04] <Sep> your not going to stop me from doing it
  203. 01[22:05] <Sep> you're not gonna stop a single fucking person in di from doing it
  204. [22:05] <Oldee> so if i can't get you to follow a simple rule like no looting, how am I ever going to get you to follow other more important rules?
  205. 01[22:05] <Sep> okay oldee i wont loot just for you
  206. 01[22:05] <Sep> but if i see a rune gold set
  207. 01[22:05] <Sep> im picking it up
  208. 01[22:06] <Sep> but if i see a godsword or something in a big fight
  209. 01[22:06] <Sep> ill leave that be
  210. 01[22:06] <Sep> no looting
  211. [22:06] <Oldee> I mean this isn't about what I want, it's just a clan rule. Like you said, you follow most of the rules. But i can't have exceptions.
  212. [22:06] <Oldee> I think you're misunderstanding
  213. [22:06] <Oldee> so let me be clear
  214. [22:06] <Oldee> in a f2p/p2p returning capped fight
  215. [22:06] <Oldee> you can't loot mutli sets and fill ur invent, but a big +1
  216. [22:06] <Oldee> you can loot it and bank all you want
  217. [22:07] <Oldee> that's totally fine
  218. [22:07] <Oldee> as can u can loot when we clear/hit teams without needed to return
  219. [22:07] <Oldee> everyne loots in p2p wen we dont have to return to fight
  220. [22:07] <Oldee> you're fine to do so
  221. 01[22:07] <Sep> okay you can dictate what i do with my time what i feel the need to loot and or need in my invy what i may find some joy out of in the 2 hour fights of mass returning and yelling
  222. 01[22:07] <Sep> okay oldee
  223. 01[22:07] <Sep> ite
  224. [22:07] <Oldee> just not if we get in a big fight
  225. -
  226. 03[22:07] * Added *!*Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org to ignore list
  227. -
  228. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:07:54 2017
  229.  
  230. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:13:41 2017
  231. Session Ident: Oldee
  232. 04[22:28] <Oldee> So what's it going to be Sep? Are we able to move on from this or are we back at square one?
  233. -
  234. 01[22:28] Oldee is ~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org * Olde
  235. 01[22:28] Oldee on #immaculate @#di-priv
  236. 01[22:28] Oldee using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server
  237. 01[22:28] Oldee is authed as Olde
  238. 01[22:28] Oldee End of /WHOIS list.
  239. -
  240. 01[22:31] <Sep> Were at the same square where we started we havnt moved your not going to change my stance on how i feel you've taken your point to flex your new power or stand point whatever the fuck ur on right now i suggest you come off it and dont move on to another conversation any further than this one without any more sufficient proof or anything at a larger scale than something said on zybez or maybe someone having 2 rune sets on them if its a full inventory or a reoccuring issue yeah sure proceed further now as ive stated im done with this fucking conversation if you continue i told u what i will do if u want to kick me from di or the new di or the nazi di if u do so by all means go ahead i dont care ill go find some entertainment somewhere else there is a life outside of di outside of the computer and i can go enjoy that just the same as i do now here
  241. 01[22:31] <Sep> feel free
  242. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:31:53 2017
  243.  
  244. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:32:40 2017
  245. Session Ident: Oldee
  246. 01[22:32] <Sep> oh and learn the ml.
  247. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:32:46 2017
  248.  
  249. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:33:06 2017
  250. Session Ident: Oldee
  251. [22:33] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  252. [22:33] <Oldee> It was never about looting, that was just the initial problem. The real root of the problem was how you feel like you don't have to follow our rules and that no one can change that.
  253. 01[22:33] <Sep> alright
  254. 01[22:33] <Sep> ignore it is.
  255. -
  256. 03[22:33] * Added *!*Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org to ignore list
  257. -
  258. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:33:21 2017
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