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  3. In commercial printing,
  4.  
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  7. please press three.
  8.  
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  11. For the newsroom,
  12. please press four.
  13.  
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  16. For all other departments,
  17. please press...
  18.  
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  21. Hi, I was wondering
  22. who I would speak to
  23.  
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  26. regarding an upcoming
  27. local news event.
  28.  
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  31. Oh, okay, great.
  32.  
  33. 8
  34. 00:00:29,812 --> 00:00:31,452
  35. Uh, I'm calling
  36. from "Big News Publicity,"
  37.  
  38. 9
  39. 00:00:31,596 --> 00:00:34,251
  40. and there's a rally
  41. that's taking place tomorrow
  42.  
  43. 10
  44. 00:00:34,425 --> 00:00:37,646
  45. at the State Capitol
  46. by the Satanic Temple.
  47.  
  48. 11
  49. 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:40,214
  50. The Satanic Temple.
  51.  
  52. 12
  53. 00:00:41,606 --> 00:00:43,478
  54. S... S as in Sam.
  55.  
  56. 13
  57. 00:00:46,437 --> 00:00:47,437
  58. Great, thank you.
  59.  
  60. 14
  61. 00:00:49,484 --> 00:00:52,226
  62. And there you have it,
  63. and that was an ABC affiliate.
  64.  
  65. 15
  66. 00:01:06,718 --> 00:01:07,718
  67. Camera rolls.
  68.  
  69. 16
  70. 00:01:09,939 --> 00:01:13,377
  71. Okay.
  72.  
  73. 17
  74. 00:01:13,551 --> 00:01:15,597
  75. We thank you for coming
  76. to our convening.
  77.  
  78. 18
  79. 00:01:16,206 --> 00:01:17,294
  80. Hail Satan.
  81.  
  82. 19
  83. 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:20,253
  84. Not bad.
  85.  
  86. 20
  87. 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:23,133
  88. Could you hold it
  89. for a beat longer?
  90.  
  91. 21
  92. 00:01:23,909 --> 00:01:24,909
  93. Hail Satan.
  94.  
  95. 22
  96. 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:27,130
  97. Damn it.
  98.  
  99. 23
  100. 00:01:33,223 --> 00:01:35,573
  101. Test, one, two.
  102.  
  103. 24
  104. 00:01:40,839 --> 00:01:41,839
  105. Hey, how's it going?
  106.  
  107. 25
  108. 00:01:42,493 --> 00:01:44,413
  109. - It's going fantastic.
  110. - Why are you here today?
  111.  
  112. 26
  113. 00:01:45,409 --> 00:01:47,542
  114. We're here to spread
  115. a message of goodwill,
  116.  
  117. 27
  118. 00:01:47,716 --> 00:01:50,022
  119. and benevolence,
  120. and open-mindedness,
  121.  
  122. 28
  123. 00:01:50,197 --> 00:01:52,155
  124. - and free expression.
  125. - What is your name?
  126.  
  127. 29
  128. 00:01:53,330 --> 00:01:54,330
  129. That's not important.
  130.  
  131. 30
  132. 00:01:56,986 --> 00:01:58,988
  133. It's a beautiful day here
  134. at the State Capitol...
  135.  
  136. 31
  137. 00:02:00,729 --> 00:02:02,339
  138. great day to be a Satanist...
  139.  
  140. 32
  141. 00:02:03,253 --> 00:02:04,863
  142. great day to be a human being.
  143.  
  144. 33
  145. 00:02:06,256 --> 00:02:09,433
  146. We honor
  147. Governor Rick Scott!
  148.  
  149. 34
  150. 00:02:10,173 --> 00:02:11,479
  151. Hail Satan, Rick,
  152.  
  153. 35
  154. 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:14,090
  155. for providing us
  156. this opportunity
  157.  
  158. 36
  159. 00:02:14,308 --> 00:02:16,092
  160. to make
  161. the Satanic clause clear
  162.  
  163. 37
  164. 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:18,660
  165. and make our presence known,
  166. and, uh...
  167.  
  168. 38
  169. 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:23,491
  170. I believe it,
  171. and I'm very excited about it.
  172.  
  173. 39
  174. 00:02:25,623 --> 00:02:27,103
  175. A satanic temple
  176.  
  177. 40
  178. 00:02:27,582 --> 00:02:30,062
  179. fully supports Florida Governor Rick Scott,
  180. who has been
  181.  
  182. 41
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  184. pushing for prayer in public schools.
  185.  
  186. 42
  187. 00:02:32,413 --> 00:02:35,546
  188. Jesus Christ became my savior
  189. at a very young age...
  190.  
  191. 43
  192. 00:02:35,807 --> 00:02:38,070
  193. That's right,
  194. Satanists pushing for prayer
  195.  
  196. 44
  197. 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:40,290
  198. and backing
  199. a Tea Party favorite.
  200.  
  201. 45
  202. 00:02:40,464 --> 00:02:42,423
  203. We spoke to one
  204. of the Satanists today
  205.  
  206. 46
  207. 00:02:42,597 --> 00:02:44,512
  208. about why they support the law.
  209.  
  210. 47
  211. 00:02:44,947 --> 00:02:47,428
  212. Lucien Greaves,
  213. and yes, that is the name
  214.  
  215. 48
  216. 00:02:47,602 --> 00:02:48,777
  217. the gentleman gave us,
  218.  
  219. 49
  220. 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:51,258
  221. told us that the law
  222. would lead to, quote,
  223.  
  224. 50
  225. 00:02:51,606 --> 00:02:53,999
  226. "A boom
  227. in religious diversity."
  228.  
  229. 51
  230. 00:02:54,522 --> 00:02:57,177
  231. Basically, the argument
  232. being you open the door to God,
  233.  
  234. 52
  235. 00:02:57,351 --> 00:02:58,830
  236. you open the door to Satan.
  237.  
  238. 53
  239. 00:02:59,309 --> 00:03:00,549
  240. We're not what
  241. you think we are,
  242.  
  243. 54
  244. 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,444
  245. and we're here to...
  246. we're here to help people
  247.  
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  249. 00:03:03,618 --> 00:03:06,534
  250. understand that about us
  251. and also about themselves.
  252.  
  253. 56
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  255. What do you think
  256. of Rick Scott?
  257.  
  258. 57
  259. 00:03:08,884 --> 00:03:10,233
  260. Think he's a great American.
  261.  
  262. 58
  263. 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,194
  264. - I do, and, uh...
  265. - Man:
  266.  
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  269. No.
  270.  
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  273. Hail Satan!
  274.  
  275. 61
  276. 00:03:17,675 --> 00:03:19,721
  277. - Hail Satan.
  278. - Hail Satan.
  279.  
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  281. 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:20,896
  282. Hail Satan!
  283.  
  284. 63
  285. 00:04:05,897 --> 00:04:08,073
  286. It was awkward.
  287. it was messy,
  288.  
  289. 64
  290. 00:04:08,552 --> 00:04:12,164
  291. and it was awesome.
  292. It was national news,
  293.  
  294. 65
  295. 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:15,037
  296. but more importantly,
  297. we realized
  298.  
  299. 66
  300. 00:04:15,211 --> 00:04:16,691
  301. that we were on to something.
  302.  
  303. 67
  304. 00:04:17,474 --> 00:04:20,216
  305. And where did the name
  306. "The Satanic Temple" come from?
  307.  
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  309. 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:23,524
  310. When I was looking
  311. at all the different
  312.  
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  314. 00:04:23,698 --> 00:04:26,353
  315. Satanic organizations
  316. that existed,
  317.  
  318. 70
  319. 00:04:26,527 --> 00:04:29,356
  320. uh, the name wasn't taken.
  321.  
  322. 71
  323. 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:32,533
  324. The Rick Scott rally
  325. was a media stunt
  326.  
  327. 72
  328. 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:35,536
  329. to show the hypocrisy
  330. of what Rick Scott was doing,
  331.  
  332. 73
  333. 00:04:35,971 --> 00:04:37,755
  334. and it required a spokesperson.
  335.  
  336. 74
  337. 00:04:38,974 --> 00:04:41,237
  338. I didn't want to do it.
  339.  
  340. 75
  341. 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:47,199
  342. He is the leader
  343. of the Satanic Temple,
  344.  
  345. 76
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  347. and we're gonna be on the steps
  348. of the Capitol Building.
  349.  
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  352. Usually when I think
  353. of, like,
  354.  
  355. 78
  356. 00:04:53,205 --> 00:04:55,207
  357. a gaggle of satanic,
  358. you know, worshippers,
  359.  
  360. 79
  361. 00:04:55,382 --> 00:04:56,837
  362. I think of them wearing, like,
  363. the red hoods.
  364.  
  365. 80
  366. 00:04:56,861 --> 00:04:57,981
  367. - Yeah.
  368. - Yeah.
  369.  
  370. 81
  371. 00:04:58,254 --> 00:04:59,574
  372. Like,
  373. that's like the group color,
  374.  
  375. 82
  376. 00:05:00,082 --> 00:05:02,693
  377. and then leader color would be,
  378. like, black, gray, brown.
  379.  
  380. 83
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  382. Oh, I like that.
  383.  
  384. 84
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  386. When we first started,
  387. it was staged,
  388.  
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  390. 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,353
  391. and there was
  392. an actor involved,
  393.  
  394. 86
  395. 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:15,532
  396. but very quickly, um,
  397. everything got real.
  398.  
  399. 87
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  401. At the beginning,
  402. we didn't have the hubris
  403.  
  404. 88
  405. 00:05:30,373 --> 00:05:32,288
  406. to think that we could start
  407.  
  408. 89
  409. 00:05:32,723 --> 00:05:36,640
  410. a large global
  411. religious movement.
  412.  
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  414. 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:40,731
  415. When the Satanic Temple
  416. got started,
  417.  
  418. 91
  419. 00:05:41,036 --> 00:05:42,211
  420. I wanted to be sure
  421.  
  422. 92
  423. 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:45,040
  424. that Satanism
  425. was properly represented.
  426.  
  427. 93
  428. 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:49,958
  429. I very much felt
  430. that I was a Satanist,
  431.  
  432. 94
  433. 00:05:50,132 --> 00:05:54,049
  434. but there was no need to kind
  435. of publicly advertise that.
  436.  
  437. 95
  438. 00:05:56,486 --> 00:05:57,486
  439. Lucien.
  440.  
  441. 96
  442. 00:05:58,575 --> 00:05:59,575
  443. You excited?
  444.  
  445. 97
  446. 00:06:00,969 --> 00:06:02,057
  447. Not yet.
  448.  
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  450. 00:06:03,145 --> 00:06:04,145
  451. You excited?
  452.  
  453. 99
  454. 00:06:04,929 --> 00:06:08,411
  455. No. I'm filled with angst.
  456.  
  457. 100
  458. 00:06:08,933 --> 00:06:12,241
  459. I wanted somebody else
  460. to be the face of this,
  461.  
  462. 101
  463. 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:14,025
  464. but I... I found very quickly
  465.  
  466. 102
  467. 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:16,370
  468. I didn't want somebody else
  469. to be the voice of this.
  470.  
  471. 103
  472. 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:18,943
  473. God and Satan work
  474. in mysterious ways,
  475.  
  476. 104
  477. 00:06:19,117 --> 00:06:20,399
  478. and we're not really sure,
  479. you know,
  480.  
  481. 105
  482. 00:06:20,423 --> 00:06:21,663
  483. how all this is gonna manifest.
  484.  
  485. 106
  486. 00:06:22,033 --> 00:06:23,818
  487. It became very clear
  488. that there was
  489.  
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  491. 00:06:23,992 --> 00:06:27,256
  492. no amount of coaching
  493. I could give somebody
  494.  
  495. 108
  496. 00:06:27,865 --> 00:06:33,088
  497. who wasn't authentically
  498. attached to Satanism
  499.  
  500. 109
  501. 00:06:33,436 --> 00:06:36,918
  502. that would make them a credible
  503. interview subject on the topic.
  504.  
  505. 110
  506. 00:06:37,092 --> 00:06:38,963
  507. Why'd you guys pick, uh,
  508. Governor Scott...
  509.  
  510. 111
  511. 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:43,664
  512. When it became my face
  513. and my voice,
  514.  
  515. 112
  516. 00:06:44,099 --> 00:06:48,843
  517. it needed to be everything
  518. I believed in and stood by,
  519.  
  520. 113
  521. 00:06:49,191 --> 00:06:51,149
  522. or it could not be at all,
  523.  
  524. 114
  525. 00:06:51,585 --> 00:06:56,416
  526. so that's when
  527. everything changed.
  528.  
  529. 115
  530. 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:00,091
  531. We will begin
  532. with Lucien. All right, Lucien.
  533.  
  534. 116
  535. 00:07:00,115 --> 00:07:02,117
  536. So is it, like,
  537. Lucien as in Lucifer?
  538.  
  539. 117
  540. 00:07:02,291 --> 00:07:04,946
  541. Is that where... is that
  542. why you're called that?
  543.  
  544. 118
  545. 00:07:06,077 --> 00:07:07,209
  546. Sure, as you like.
  547.  
  548. 119
  549. 00:07:07,383 --> 00:07:08,906
  550. As you like.
  551.  
  552. 120
  553. 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,126
  554. I don't kn...
  555. Like, is that your birth name?
  556.  
  557. 121
  558. 00:07:12,388 --> 00:07:13,781
  559. - No, it's not.
  560. - Okay.
  561.  
  562. 122
  563. 00:07:14,259 --> 00:07:17,349
  564. So, what is it that first drew
  565. you to the Satanic Temple?
  566.  
  567. 123
  568. 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:21,441
  569. Well, I... I helped co-found
  570. the Satanic Temple.
  571.  
  572. 124
  573. 00:07:22,224 --> 00:07:23,224
  574. Why?
  575.  
  576. 125
  577. 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:27,316
  578. Uh, why?
  579. Because it is an embodiment
  580.  
  581. 126
  582. 00:07:27,490 --> 00:07:28,883
  583. of my deeply-held beliefs,
  584.  
  585. 127
  586. 00:07:29,361 --> 00:07:32,234
  587. and I think there's a distinct
  588. need for a counterbalance
  589.  
  590. 128
  591. 00:07:32,408 --> 00:07:36,107
  592. against the dominant religious
  593. privilege in America today.
  594.  
  595. 129
  596. 00:07:36,543 --> 00:07:38,022
  597. What are the deeply-held beliefs
  598.  
  599. 130
  600. 00:07:38,196 --> 00:07:40,851
  601. that drew you
  602. to the Satanic Temple?
  603.  
  604. 131
  605. 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:46,291
  606. Uh, essentially, we view, uh,
  607. Satan as a symbolic embodiment
  608.  
  609. 132
  610. 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:49,425
  611. of the ultimate rebel
  612. against tyranny.
  613.  
  614. 133
  615. 00:07:50,731 --> 00:07:52,839
  616. Once you realize how
  617. the media is constructed,
  618.  
  619. 134
  620. 00:07:52,863 --> 00:07:55,300
  621. it becomes incredibly easy
  622. to manipulate.
  623.  
  624. 135
  625. 00:07:57,607 --> 00:07:58,607
  626. Good evening to you,
  627.  
  628. 136
  629. 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:00,654
  630. at six o'clock
  631. I'm Chip Scarborough.
  632.  
  633. 137
  634. 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:02,569
  635. Well, the owner
  636. of a Meridian cemetery
  637.  
  638. 138
  639. 00:08:02,743 --> 00:08:05,485
  640. has already said
  641. he plans to pursue charges
  642.  
  643. 139
  644. 00:08:05,659 --> 00:08:08,488
  645. against members
  646. of New York's Satanic Temple,
  647.  
  648. 140
  649. 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:10,228
  650. and now police
  651. are investigating
  652.  
  653. 141
  654. 00:08:10,402 --> 00:08:11,752
  655. the unusual ritual.
  656.  
  657. 142
  658. 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:14,189
  659. This you have to see
  660. to believe.
  661.  
  662. 143
  663. 00:08:14,537 --> 00:08:15,657
  664. A group of devil worshippers
  665.  
  666. 144
  667. 00:08:16,452 --> 00:08:18,299
  668. giving Westboro Baptist Church
  669. a run for their money.
  670.  
  671. 145
  672. 00:08:18,323 --> 00:08:19,542
  673. God hates fags.
  674.  
  675. 146
  676. 00:08:20,064 --> 00:08:22,240
  677. Except you repent,
  678. you shall all likewise perish,
  679.  
  680. 147
  681. 00:08:22,414 --> 00:08:24,982
  682. and God is not running
  683. out of room in hell.
  684.  
  685. 148
  686. 00:08:26,114 --> 00:08:28,116
  687. How do you fuck
  688. with Fred Phelps?
  689.  
  690. 149
  691. 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:31,380
  692. Well... you fuck with his mom.
  693.  
  694. 150
  695. 00:08:32,555 --> 00:08:34,875
  696. A group from New York's
  697. Satanic Temple made the trip
  698.  
  699. 151
  700. 00:08:34,992 --> 00:08:38,039
  701. to Meridian to protest
  702. the Westboro Baptist Church.
  703.  
  704. 152
  705. 00:08:38,213 --> 00:08:40,258
  706. They performed a ritual
  707. they called Pink Mass
  708.  
  709. 153
  710. 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:42,217
  711. on the grave
  712. of Catherine Johnston,
  713.  
  714. 154
  715. 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:45,263
  716. the mother of Westboro
  717. founder Fred Phelps, Jr.
  718.  
  719. 155
  720. 00:08:45,568 --> 00:08:47,614
  721. The ceremony involved
  722. two same-sex couples
  723.  
  724. 156
  725. 00:08:47,788 --> 00:08:49,006
  726. kissing over her grave.
  727.  
  728. 157
  729. 00:08:49,398 --> 00:08:50,838
  730. They then declared
  731. Catherine Johnston
  732.  
  733. 158
  734. 00:08:51,008 --> 00:08:52,836
  735. a lesbian in the afterlife.
  736.  
  737. 159
  738. 00:08:53,924 --> 00:08:55,902
  739. One of the things
  740. that I wanted to play on is,
  741.  
  742. 160
  743. 00:08:55,926 --> 00:08:57,711
  744. you know,
  745. the Mormons have the belief
  746.  
  747. 161
  748. 00:08:57,928 --> 00:08:59,321
  749. that they can baptize the dead
  750.  
  751. 162
  752. 00:08:59,495 --> 00:09:01,889
  753. and do
  754. this postmortem conversion,
  755.  
  756. 163
  757. 00:09:02,237 --> 00:09:05,849
  758. so I proposed that every time
  759. a same-sex couple kisses,
  760.  
  761. 164
  762. 00:09:06,023 --> 00:09:07,808
  763. that she's pleasured
  764. in the afterlife.
  765.  
  766. 165
  767. 00:09:07,982 --> 00:09:10,288
  768. You know, which I took
  769. from "It's a Wonderful Life."
  770.  
  771. 166
  772. 00:09:10,462 --> 00:09:11,822
  773. You know,
  774. "Every time a bell rings,
  775.  
  776. 167
  777. 00:09:11,899 --> 00:09:13,074
  778. an angel gets its wings."
  779.  
  780. 168
  781. 00:09:13,422 --> 00:09:17,557
  782. Every time a bell rings,
  783. an angel gets his wings.
  784.  
  785. 169
  786. 00:09:18,209 --> 00:09:19,209
  787. That's right.
  788.  
  789. 170
  790. 00:09:20,081 --> 00:09:21,885
  791. And then developing,
  792. as these things do,
  793.  
  794. 171
  795. 00:09:21,909 --> 00:09:26,435
  796. into the obvious idea,
  797. which is putting your testicles
  798.  
  799. 172
  800. 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:29,743
  801. on the tombstone of the
  802. founder's mother's grave.
  803.  
  804. 173
  805. 00:09:31,092 --> 00:09:33,398
  806. It's remarkable,
  807. it hadn't happened before.
  808.  
  809. 174
  810. 00:09:34,138 --> 00:09:36,924
  811. It is an unusual crime
  812. that we haven't come across,
  813.  
  814. 175
  815. 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:38,795
  816. to my knowledge, in a while.
  817.  
  818. 176
  819. 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:41,319
  820. There was a desperate
  821. attempt to figure out
  822.  
  823. 177
  824. 00:09:41,493 --> 00:09:43,539
  825. what to charge us with.
  826.  
  827. 178
  828. 00:09:43,713 --> 00:09:47,108
  829. The headline read, "Police
  830. Want to Arrest," you know,
  831.  
  832. 179
  833. 00:09:47,282 --> 00:09:49,501
  834. "Satanists
  835. who Turn the Dead Gay."
  836.  
  837. 180
  838. 00:09:51,547 --> 00:09:55,029
  839. Satana, blessed be.
  840.  
  841. 181
  842. 00:09:55,203 --> 00:09:57,553
  843. Blasphemy isn't just
  844.  
  845. 182
  846. 00:09:57,727 --> 00:10:00,295
  847. directed at other people
  848. to offend them.
  849.  
  850. 183
  851. 00:10:00,469 --> 00:10:02,340
  852. Blasphemy is very much
  853.  
  854. 184
  855. 00:10:02,514 --> 00:10:05,169
  856. a declaration
  857. of personal independence,
  858.  
  859. 185
  860. 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:09,173
  861. and I don't mind, of course,
  862. when people are offended.
  863.  
  864. 186
  865. 00:10:18,661 --> 00:10:21,272
  866. It's a city known
  867. for its witch trials,
  868.  
  869. 187
  870. 00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:24,014
  871. but the newest neighbors
  872. on Bridge Street in Salem
  873.  
  874. 188
  875. 00:10:24,188 --> 00:10:27,844
  876. are Satanists, the religious
  877. and political organization
  878.  
  879. 189
  880. 00:10:28,018 --> 00:10:31,195
  881. choosing this spot
  882. for its international headquarters.
  883.  
  884. 190
  885. 00:10:31,805 --> 00:10:33,645
  886. According to the
  887. Satanic Temple's website,
  888.  
  889. 191
  890. 00:10:33,676 --> 00:10:36,331
  891. the group is all
  892. about religious pluralism.
  893.  
  894. 192
  895. 00:10:40,248 --> 00:10:42,729
  896. What we want to do
  897. is force people
  898.  
  899. 193
  900. 00:10:42,903 --> 00:10:45,470
  901. to evaluate their notions
  902. of the United States
  903.  
  904. 194
  905. 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,298
  906. being a Christian nation.
  907.  
  908. 195
  909. 00:10:47,472 --> 00:10:49,997
  910. It's not.
  911. We're a secular nation.
  912.  
  913. 196
  914. 00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:52,347
  915. We are supposed to be
  916. a democratic,
  917.  
  918. 197
  919. 00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:55,872
  920. pluralistic nation.
  921. We are supposed to be a nation
  922.  
  923. 198
  924. 00:10:56,046 --> 00:10:57,526
  925. that doesn't allow
  926. the government
  927.  
  928. 199
  929. 00:10:57,831 --> 00:11:01,225
  930. to dictate what is appropriate
  931. religious expression.
  932.  
  933. 200
  934. 00:11:06,535 --> 00:11:08,363
  935. The donors have to wait
  936. to find out
  937.  
  938. 201
  939. 00:11:08,537 --> 00:11:10,495
  940. whether those donations
  941. are tax-deductible
  942.  
  943. 202
  944. 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,541
  945. once there's a ruling. Uh...
  946.  
  947. 203
  948. 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,151
  949. Early on it was agreed
  950.  
  951. 204
  952. 00:11:14,369 --> 00:11:16,850
  953. that Lucien would be
  954. the spokesperson
  955.  
  956. 205
  957. 00:11:17,328 --> 00:11:19,722
  958. and that I would keep
  959. in the background.
  960.  
  961. 206
  962. 00:11:21,898 --> 00:11:24,335
  963. Here's our...
  964. our humble offices.
  965.  
  966. 207
  967. 00:11:24,509 --> 00:11:27,382
  968. This is Malcolm's desk,
  969. and this is mine.
  970.  
  971. 208
  972. 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:30,254
  973. Sorry about the mess.
  974.  
  975. 209
  976. 00:11:34,781 --> 00:11:38,219
  977. This is, uh, where we're going
  978. to have the shop.
  979.  
  980. 210
  981. 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:44,051
  982. This is where people will be
  983. able to buy prints or T-shirts
  984.  
  985. 211
  986. 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:45,879
  987. or whatever else
  988. we have on sale.
  989.  
  990. 212
  991. 00:11:48,882 --> 00:11:50,579
  992. A lot of what we are doing
  993.  
  994. 213
  995. 00:11:50,753 --> 00:11:52,668
  996. is going to direct people's perception
  997.  
  998. 214
  999. 00:11:52,842 --> 00:11:55,497
  1000. of what Satanism
  1001. will be hereafter...
  1002.  
  1003. 215
  1004. 00:11:56,585 --> 00:12:00,284
  1005. but the Satanic Temple
  1006. did not invent modern Satanism.
  1007.  
  1008. 216
  1009. 00:12:04,941 --> 00:12:08,815
  1010. You see now the Reverend
  1011. Anton Szandor LaVey,
  1012.  
  1013. 217
  1014. 00:12:09,119 --> 00:12:10,904
  1015. who is the founder
  1016. and high priest
  1017.  
  1018. 218
  1019. 00:12:11,078 --> 00:12:12,732
  1020. of the First Church of Satan,
  1021.  
  1022. 219
  1023. 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:14,821
  1024. who uses,
  1025. as somewhat of a credo,
  1026.  
  1027. 220
  1028. 00:12:14,995 --> 00:12:16,170
  1029. this timeless quote,
  1030.  
  1031. 221
  1032. 00:12:16,605 --> 00:12:19,826
  1033. "Remember,
  1034. evil backwards spells live."
  1035.  
  1036. 222
  1037. 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,656
  1038. Somehow,
  1039. that never occurred to me.
  1040.  
  1041. 223
  1042. 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:26,833
  1043. The most interesting thing
  1044. about Satanism
  1045.  
  1046. 224
  1047. 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:31,663
  1048. is that people...
  1049. willingly choose to identify
  1050.  
  1051. 225
  1052. 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:35,015
  1053. with an adversarial being.
  1054.  
  1055. 226
  1056. 00:12:36,146 --> 00:12:37,146
  1057. What are you doing?
  1058.  
  1059. 227
  1060. 00:12:37,626 --> 00:12:39,106
  1061. I'm giving a blessing
  1062. to the audience.
  1063.  
  1064. 228
  1065. 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:40,516
  1066. I don't think
  1067. they appreciate it.
  1068.  
  1069. 229
  1070. 00:12:41,021 --> 00:12:42,215
  1071. They were throwing it back.
  1072.  
  1073. 230
  1074. 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:44,328
  1075. This is the sign of the horns.
  1076.  
  1077. 231
  1078. 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:46,374
  1079. It's a founding aspect
  1080. of Satanism
  1081.  
  1082. 232
  1083. 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:47,941
  1084. that you troll people.
  1085.  
  1086. 233
  1087. 00:12:48,419 --> 00:12:50,659
  1088. That's the original troll,
  1089. isn't it, is to say to people,
  1090.  
  1091. 234
  1092. 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,337
  1093. "Yeah, I'm a Satanist,"
  1094. and see what happens to people.
  1095.  
  1096. 235
  1097. 00:12:53,511 --> 00:12:56,253
  1098. I mean, they just... they faint,
  1099. or they get angry,
  1100.  
  1101. 236
  1102. 00:12:56,427 --> 00:12:59,953
  1103. or whatever happens,
  1104. and then you move on from there.
  1105.  
  1106. 237
  1107. 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:07,395
  1108. - Hail Satan.
  1109. - Hail Satan.
  1110.  
  1111. 238
  1112. 00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:11,703
  1113. Satan is simply a word
  1114.  
  1115. 239
  1116. 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:15,838
  1117. that means the adversary
  1118. or the opposition
  1119.  
  1120. 240
  1121. 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:17,622
  1122. or the accuser.
  1123.  
  1124. 241
  1125. 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:21,452
  1126. It doesn't necessarily mean
  1127. evil, or brutality, or cruelty.
  1128.  
  1129. 242
  1130. 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:23,280
  1131. It simply means the dissenter.
  1132.  
  1133. 243
  1134. 00:13:23,454 --> 00:13:25,892
  1135. Well, I had a man
  1136. come to me the other day,
  1137.  
  1138. 244
  1139. 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:28,111
  1140. and he said
  1141. that it was just terrible.
  1142.  
  1143. 245
  1144. 00:13:28,285 --> 00:13:29,983
  1145. When... when he joined
  1146. the Satanic Church,
  1147.  
  1148. 246
  1149. 00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:32,637
  1150. he was masturbating
  1151. just about every day,
  1152.  
  1153. 247
  1154. 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,509
  1155. and now he's masturbating
  1156.  
  1157. 248
  1158. 00:13:34,683 --> 00:13:36,163
  1159. two and sometimes
  1160. three times a day...
  1161.  
  1162. 249
  1163. 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,836
  1164. ...and he's very happy,
  1165.  
  1166. 250
  1167. 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:39,420
  1168. much happier
  1169. than he's ever been before.
  1170.  
  1171. 251
  1172. 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:40,926
  1173. That's an improvement.
  1174.  
  1175. 252
  1176. 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:43,126
  1177. I always get a lift
  1178. when I come here.
  1179.  
  1180. 253
  1181. 00:13:43,648 --> 00:13:46,173
  1182. I suppose like other people do
  1183. when they go to church,
  1184.  
  1185. 254
  1186. 00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:49,350
  1187. which I haven't done
  1188. for many years now.
  1189.  
  1190. 255
  1191. 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:57,543
  1192. Before the Church of Satan,
  1193.  
  1194. 256
  1195. 00:13:58,098 --> 00:14:00,709
  1196. every time you had someone
  1197. who was called a Satanist,
  1198.  
  1199. 257
  1200. 00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:03,581
  1201. that was because of attribution
  1202. by other people.
  1203.  
  1204. 258
  1205. 00:14:04,017 --> 00:14:05,975
  1206. - Cover her face...
  1207. - No!
  1208.  
  1209. 259
  1210. 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:07,847
  1211. ...with the mask of Satan.
  1212.  
  1213. 260
  1214. 00:14:10,371 --> 00:14:12,852
  1215. But the Church of Satan
  1216. is a watershed moment
  1217.  
  1218. 261
  1219. 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,071
  1220. in the history of Satanism
  1221. because that's where
  1222.  
  1223. 262
  1224. 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:17,334
  1225. the attribution
  1226. of a Satanic identity
  1227.  
  1228. 263
  1229. 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:20,990
  1230. is not just something that
  1231. some people do to others.
  1232.  
  1233. 264
  1234. 00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:23,688
  1235. It's something that people do
  1236. to themselves.
  1237.  
  1238. 265
  1239. 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:27,953
  1240. One of the differences
  1241.  
  1242. 266
  1243. 00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:29,756
  1244. between the early Church
  1245. of Satan
  1246.  
  1247. 267
  1248. 00:14:30,391 --> 00:14:32,325
  1249. and the Satanic Temple,
  1250. that the early Church of Satan
  1251.  
  1252. 268
  1253. 00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:34,003
  1254. was much more
  1255. of a rat pack carnival.
  1256.  
  1257. 269
  1258. 00:14:34,699 --> 00:14:37,964
  1259. They were never political,
  1260. whereas the Satanic Temple
  1261.  
  1262. 270
  1263. 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:42,838
  1264. is actually refining Satanism
  1265. and making it into a new tool,
  1266.  
  1267. 271
  1268. 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:45,928
  1269. a new weapon
  1270. in the ongoing culture wars.
  1271.  
  1272. 272
  1273. 00:15:29,145 --> 00:15:31,800
  1274. If you're godless,
  1275. free-thinking,
  1276.  
  1277. 273
  1278. 00:15:32,322 --> 00:15:34,846
  1279. and a rebel,
  1280. then you are a Satanist
  1281.  
  1282. 274
  1283. 00:15:35,021 --> 00:15:37,806
  1284. in the eyes of many
  1285. in our community and society,
  1286.  
  1287. 275
  1288. 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,764
  1289. and certainly by people
  1290. in your government...
  1291.  
  1292. 276
  1293. 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:42,506
  1294. whether you like it or not.
  1295.  
  1296. 277
  1297. 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:48,034
  1298. Before I decided
  1299. that I was a Satanist,
  1300.  
  1301. 278
  1302. 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:49,731
  1303. it was really the Bible
  1304. that said,
  1305.  
  1306. 279
  1307. 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:51,385
  1308. "This is what
  1309. a Satanist is like."
  1310.  
  1311. 280
  1312. 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:54,910
  1313. I attended church
  1314. when I was a kid,
  1315.  
  1316. 281
  1317. 00:15:55,084 --> 00:15:57,652
  1318. and funny story
  1319. is that I played Eve
  1320.  
  1321. 282
  1322. 00:15:57,826 --> 00:16:00,350
  1323. in a musical in middle school.
  1324.  
  1325. 283
  1326. 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:04,267
  1327. The story of Adam and Eve
  1328.  
  1329. 284
  1330. 00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:07,531
  1331. is the story
  1332. of Eve's original sin.
  1333.  
  1334. 285
  1335. 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:11,971
  1336. Eve was very curious,
  1337. as her nature was as a woman.
  1338.  
  1339. 286
  1340. 00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:18,760
  1341. The Devil appeared
  1342. in the form of a snake
  1343.  
  1344. 287
  1345. 00:16:19,326 --> 00:16:21,937
  1346. and offers
  1347. the fruit of enlightenment.
  1348.  
  1349. 288
  1350. 00:16:22,938 --> 00:16:26,072
  1351. We are taught to fear that,
  1352.  
  1353. 289
  1354. 00:16:26,246 --> 00:16:28,311
  1355. but at the same time,
  1356. it seems the most liberating,
  1357.  
  1358. 290
  1359. 00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:30,424
  1360. because if we did not have
  1361. that opportunity,
  1362.  
  1363. 291
  1364. 00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:32,469
  1365. we would have to be
  1366. in total servitude
  1367.  
  1368. 292
  1369. 00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:33,949
  1370. without free choice,
  1371.  
  1372. 293
  1373. 00:16:34,254 --> 00:16:37,257
  1374. and ultimate servitude
  1375. is slavery.
  1376.  
  1377. 294
  1378. 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:39,476
  1379. Reframing it in the light
  1380. of it being salvation
  1381.  
  1382. 295
  1383. 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,478
  1384. is probably
  1385. one of the greatest tricks
  1386.  
  1387. 296
  1388. 00:16:41,652 --> 00:16:43,524
  1389. ever played on humankind.
  1390.  
  1391. 297
  1392. 00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:09,289
  1393. Satanism is about embracing
  1394. that Satanic status
  1395.  
  1396. 298
  1397. 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,726
  1398. rather than being controlled
  1399. by it.
  1400.  
  1401. 299
  1402. 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:15,251
  1403. After I learned
  1404. about the Satanic Temple,
  1405.  
  1406. 300
  1407. 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:17,949
  1408. I set up a time
  1409. to meet with Lucien.
  1410.  
  1411. 301
  1412. 00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:22,725
  1413. Throughout the conversation,
  1414.  
  1415. 302
  1416. 00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:24,986
  1417. I realized that we have
  1418. very similar ideas
  1419.  
  1420. 303
  1421. 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:28,656
  1422. of what contemporary Satanism
  1423. was evolving to be.
  1424.  
  1425. 304
  1426. 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:36,838
  1427. The Devil directly
  1428. challenged God...
  1429.  
  1430. 305
  1431. 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:39,797
  1432. so as a Satanist,
  1433. I believe that
  1434.  
  1435. 306
  1436. 00:17:39,971 --> 00:17:43,453
  1437. directly confronting injustice
  1438. and corrupt authority
  1439.  
  1440. 307
  1441. 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:45,977
  1442. is an expression
  1443. of one's Satanic faith.
  1444.  
  1445. 308
  1446. 00:17:49,111 --> 00:17:53,202
  1447. And I believe activism
  1448. is a Satanic practice.
  1449.  
  1450. 309
  1451. 00:17:59,991 --> 00:18:02,559
  1452. Traditionally, Satanists
  1453. practiced very privately,
  1454.  
  1455. 310
  1456. 00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:04,039
  1457. you know, closed doors,
  1458.  
  1459. 311
  1460. 00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:06,085
  1461. black candles,
  1462. black metal music.
  1463.  
  1464. 312
  1465. 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:09,827
  1466. But, with the
  1467. Satanic philosophy
  1468.  
  1469. 313
  1470. 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:11,655
  1471. being one where
  1472. Satan represents
  1473.  
  1474. 314
  1475. 00:18:11,829 --> 00:18:13,918
  1476. rebellion
  1477. against arbitrary authority,
  1478.  
  1479. 315
  1480. 00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:17,748
  1481. we believe it required a level
  1482. of political participation.
  1483.  
  1484. 316
  1485. 00:18:17,922 --> 00:18:19,359
  1486. We are Satanists.
  1487.  
  1488. 317
  1489. 00:18:20,751 --> 00:18:22,362
  1490. We are also Americans.
  1491.  
  1492. 318
  1493. 00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:24,407
  1494. We are just as powerful
  1495.  
  1496. 319
  1497. 00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:26,757
  1498. as those who work
  1499. in this institution here.
  1500.  
  1501. 320
  1502. 00:18:29,499 --> 00:18:33,590
  1503. We do not seek followers.
  1504. We are seeking collaborators,
  1505.  
  1506. 321
  1507. 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:37,725
  1508. individuals for a visionary
  1509. Satanic alliance,
  1510.  
  1511. 322
  1512. 00:18:38,247 --> 00:18:41,076
  1513. leaders of the new American era.
  1514.  
  1515. 323
  1516. 00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:51,987
  1517. I think that we need to go
  1518. into the public sphere
  1519.  
  1520. 324
  1521. 00:18:52,043 --> 00:18:54,307
  1522. and announce ourselves
  1523. without shame.
  1524.  
  1525. 325
  1526. 00:18:54,568 --> 00:18:57,353
  1527. - Hail Satan.
  1528. - Hail Satan.
  1529.  
  1530. 326
  1531. 00:18:57,527 --> 00:19:00,617
  1532. - Hail Satan.
  1533. - Hail Satan!
  1534.  
  1535. 327
  1536. 00:19:01,401 --> 00:19:04,099
  1537. Satanic Temple is mostly an idea
  1538.  
  1539. 328
  1540. 00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:07,407
  1541. between a handful of people
  1542. that had potential,
  1543.  
  1544. 329
  1545. 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:10,932
  1546. and the problem was how do we
  1547. engage more individuals
  1548.  
  1549. 330
  1550. 00:19:11,106 --> 00:19:12,977
  1551. and how do we make it,
  1552. you know, take off?
  1553.  
  1554. 331
  1555. 00:19:14,631 --> 00:19:17,112
  1556. It's one of the strangest
  1557. stories to roil Boston
  1558.  
  1559. 332
  1560. 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:19,854
  1561. in recent memory.
  1562. A Satanic Black Mass
  1563.  
  1564. 333
  1565. 00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:22,161
  1566. was scheduled yesterday
  1567. on Harvard's campus.
  1568.  
  1569. 334
  1570. 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:24,337
  1571. Here to talk
  1572. more about the black mass
  1573.  
  1574. 335
  1575. 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:26,774
  1576. is Lucien Greaves.
  1577. So, Lucien, just for people...
  1578.  
  1579. 336
  1580. 00:19:26,948 --> 00:19:29,472
  1581. Lucien and Malcolm
  1582. had gotten permission
  1583.  
  1584. 337
  1585. 00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,344
  1586. to host a Black Mass...
  1587.  
  1588. 338
  1589. 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:36,697
  1590. in Boston. Uh, yeah,
  1591. Boston's, uh,
  1592.  
  1593. 339
  1594. 00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:38,264
  1595. it's pretty fucking Catholic.
  1596.  
  1597. 340
  1598. 00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:43,094
  1599. A Black Mass is a grotesque,
  1600.  
  1601. 341
  1602. 00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:47,447
  1603. deliberate perversion of
  1604. a traditional Catholic mass,
  1605.  
  1606. 342
  1607. 00:19:47,621 --> 00:19:49,100
  1608. you know, quite vulgar,
  1609.  
  1610. 343
  1611. 00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:51,581
  1612. but then again,
  1613. a mass is kind of vulgar too,
  1614.  
  1615. 344
  1616. 00:19:51,755 --> 00:19:52,915
  1617. if you really think about it.
  1618.  
  1619. 345
  1620. 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:54,908
  1621. I mean, you're drinking blood
  1622. and eating flesh?
  1623.  
  1624. 346
  1625. 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,804
  1626. I mean, that...
  1627. that's just creepy.
  1628.  
  1629. 347
  1630. 00:19:57,413 --> 00:19:59,720
  1631. They asked if I wanted
  1632. to participate, so I flew out,
  1633.  
  1634. 348
  1635. 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,588
  1636. and there was a lot
  1637. of miscommunication
  1638.  
  1639. 349
  1640. 00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:02,678
  1641. in the beginning.
  1642.  
  1643. 350
  1644. 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,961
  1645. But I did the work of getting
  1646. a lot of people to show up.
  1647.  
  1648. 351
  1649. 00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:08,032
  1650. The punk scene was mobilized.
  1651.  
  1652. 352
  1653. 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,646
  1654. We thought this would be
  1655. a small-scale event.
  1656.  
  1657. 353
  1658. 00:20:12,863 --> 00:20:15,301
  1659. A declaration of independence
  1660. from superstition
  1661.  
  1662. 354
  1663. 00:20:15,518 --> 00:20:19,957
  1664. was what it was meant to be,
  1665. but the archdiocese in Boston
  1666.  
  1667. 355
  1668. 00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:22,569
  1669. insisted
  1670. on seeing it another way.
  1671.  
  1672. 356
  1673. 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,471
  1674. Thousands of Catholic
  1675.  
  1676. 357
  1677. 00:20:33,797 --> 00:20:35,321
  1678. in a more-than-hour-long
  1679. procession
  1680.  
  1681. 358
  1682. 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:36,931
  1683. through the streets
  1684. of Cambridge.
  1685.  
  1686. 359
  1687. 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:40,717
  1688. If someone was going to do
  1689. a KKK reenactment
  1690.  
  1691. 360
  1692. 00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,154
  1693. or a minstrel show
  1694. or something like that,
  1695.  
  1696. 361
  1697. 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:45,983
  1698. I would hope the reaction
  1699. would be outrage.
  1700.  
  1701. 362
  1702. 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:48,029
  1703. This is definitely
  1704. an act of hatred,
  1705.  
  1706. 363
  1707. 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:50,553
  1708. an act of bigotry
  1709. directed towards the Church
  1710.  
  1711. 364
  1712. 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:52,338
  1713. and towards
  1714. her faithful people.
  1715.  
  1716. 365
  1717. 00:20:52,512 --> 00:20:54,272
  1718. We've actually got
  1719. a little bit of a petition
  1720.  
  1721. 366
  1722. 00:20:54,383 --> 00:20:57,038
  1723. if anybody watching
  1724. would like to sign.
  1725.  
  1726. 367
  1727. 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,997
  1728. Nearly 60,000 names of people
  1729.  
  1730. 368
  1731. 00:21:00,171 --> 00:21:01,912
  1732. who objected
  1733. to this hateful event.
  1734.  
  1735. 369
  1736. 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:03,673
  1737. There was a sense
  1738. that we should just give up
  1739.  
  1740. 370
  1741. 00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:05,438
  1742. and cancel it,
  1743. and I just remember feeling,
  1744.  
  1745. 371
  1746. 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,918
  1747. like this unexpected sense
  1748. of justice and feel like,
  1749.  
  1750. 372
  1751. 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:10,138
  1752. "No, we can't."
  1753. I ended up standing on a table
  1754.  
  1755. 373
  1756. 00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:11,550
  1757. and saying, like, "We weren't...
  1758.  
  1759. 374
  1760. 00:21:11,574 --> 00:21:12,854
  1761. We aren't gonna
  1762. give in to this."
  1763.  
  1764. 375
  1765. 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:16,231
  1766. In just moments
  1767. near Harvard University,
  1768.  
  1769. 376
  1770. 00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:17,754
  1771. some very mean-spirited
  1772. students
  1773.  
  1774. 377
  1775. 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:19,815
  1776. will be exercising
  1777. their First Amendment right
  1778.  
  1779. 378
  1780. 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:21,976
  1781. by insulting Catholics
  1782. not just at Harvard
  1783.  
  1784. 379
  1785. 00:21:22,150 --> 00:21:23,499
  1786. but around the globe.
  1787.  
  1788. 380
  1789. 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:25,825
  1790. They're about to start a satanic mass,
  1791. which they know
  1792.  
  1793. 381
  1794. 00:21:25,849 --> 00:21:28,461
  1795. is deeply offensive to Catholics.
  1796. What do I think?
  1797.  
  1798. 382
  1799. 00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,075
  1800. Well, frankly,
  1801. I think they're awful.
  1802.  
  1803. 383
  1804. 00:21:30,463 --> 00:21:31,463
  1805. It was nuts.
  1806.  
  1807. 384
  1808. 00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:34,336
  1809. It was way more
  1810. than we had prepared for,
  1811.  
  1812. 385
  1813. 00:21:34,641 --> 00:21:38,079
  1814. and hours before
  1815. we were supposed to go on,
  1816.  
  1817. 386
  1818. 00:21:38,253 --> 00:21:39,689
  1819. Harvard canceled it.
  1820.  
  1821. 387
  1822. 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:44,670
  1823. This event was, like,
  1824. extremely chaotic,
  1825.  
  1826. 388
  1827. 00:21:44,781 --> 00:21:46,890
  1828. and there was no plan for who
  1829. is communicating with the media,
  1830.  
  1831. 389
  1832. 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:48,805
  1833. and, like, I kind of got thrown
  1834. in front of a news camera.
  1835.  
  1836. 390
  1837. 00:21:48,829 --> 00:21:51,048
  1838. A very unproductive
  1839. conversation.
  1840.  
  1841. 391
  1842. 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,050
  1843. Uh, it's just very disappointing.
  1844.  
  1845. 392
  1846. 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:02,016
  1847. We're looking for a change
  1848. of venue right now.
  1849.  
  1850. 393
  1851. 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,018
  1852. Um,
  1853. we still have our participants.
  1854.  
  1855. 394
  1856. 00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:05,802
  1857. We haven't quite worked it out
  1858. yet.
  1859.  
  1860. 395
  1861. 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:07,650
  1862. Now apparently
  1863. you've got this
  1864.  
  1865. 396
  1866. 00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:09,893
  1867. sort of moving Black Mass.
  1868.  
  1869. 397
  1870. 00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:11,347
  1871. Where do you think
  1872. they're going?
  1873.  
  1874. 398
  1875. 00:22:11,852 --> 00:22:13,177
  1876. Are they, like, going
  1877. undercover or underground?
  1878.  
  1879. 399
  1880. 00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:14,481
  1881. I mean, it's sort of interesting
  1882.  
  1883. 400
  1884. 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:16,833
  1885. because we've been chasing them
  1886. for the last 90 minutes.
  1887.  
  1888. 401
  1889. 00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:19,297
  1890. Well, hopefully...
  1891. ...hopefully they're going away,
  1892.  
  1893. 402
  1894. 00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:20,461
  1895. that's where they're going.
  1896.  
  1897. 403
  1898. 00:22:21,252 --> 00:22:25,822
  1899. Some, uh, Chinese restaurant
  1900. with a comedy club up top of it
  1901.  
  1902. 404
  1903. 00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:29,652
  1904. just off campus agreed
  1905. to host the Black Mass.
  1906.  
  1907. 405
  1908. 00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:32,655
  1909. The Black Mass,
  1910.  
  1911. 406
  1912. 00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:34,875
  1913. featuring four individuals
  1914. in hoods,
  1915.  
  1916. 407
  1917. 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,136
  1918. one man in a white suit,
  1919. a cape, and a horned mask,
  1920.  
  1921. 408
  1922. 00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:40,054
  1923. and a woman revealed to be
  1924. wearing only lingerie.
  1925.  
  1926. 409
  1927. 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,666
  1928. No word on whether they shared
  1929. a scorpion bowl after.
  1930.  
  1931. 410
  1932. 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:51,587
  1933. We were all slightly broken
  1934. the next day,
  1935.  
  1936. 411
  1937. 00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:55,330
  1938. and I remember just, like,
  1939. I had this just wave
  1940.  
  1941. 412
  1942. 00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:58,942
  1943. of just this core of, like,
  1944. sadness. I felt guilty.
  1945.  
  1946. 413
  1947. 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:01,902
  1948. I felt just, "What did I do?"
  1949.  
  1950. 414
  1951. 00:23:02,337 --> 00:23:04,252
  1952. And then it just occurred to me
  1953.  
  1954. 415
  1955. 00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:06,385
  1956. this is the Catholic Church
  1957. of Boston,
  1958.  
  1959. 416
  1960. 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,910
  1961. which covered up
  1962. decades of child rape,
  1963.  
  1964. 417
  1965. 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:13,696
  1966. moved priests around,
  1967. covered it up,
  1968.  
  1969. 418
  1970. 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:17,308
  1971. let them continue
  1972. their raping and child abuse
  1973.  
  1974. 419
  1975. 00:23:17,483 --> 00:23:20,486
  1976. and then had the gall to say
  1977. what we're doing was sinful?
  1978.  
  1979. 420
  1980. 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,357
  1981. I mean, fuck them.
  1982.  
  1983. 421
  1984. 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:26,230
  1985. Uh, that was the moment
  1986. that I really became a Satanist.
  1987.  
  1988. 422
  1989. 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:33,934
  1990. Let's shift gears
  1991. a little bit.
  1992.  
  1993. 423
  1994. 00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:35,718
  1995. Tell me about Oklahoma.
  1996.  
  1997. 424
  1998. 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:39,853
  1999. Okay, so Oklahoma had
  2000. a Ten Commandments monument
  2001.  
  2002. 425
  2003. 00:23:40,027 --> 00:23:41,289
  2004. on government property.
  2005.  
  2006. 426
  2007. 00:23:41,985 --> 00:23:44,423
  2008. In my view, it's clearly
  2009. making a religious statement
  2010.  
  2011. 427
  2012. 00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:47,164
  2013. by doing that,
  2014. and the Satanic Temple says
  2015.  
  2016. 428
  2017. 00:23:47,338 --> 00:23:49,138
  2018. if you're gonna put
  2019. your giant piece of marble
  2020.  
  2021. 429
  2022. 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:51,821
  2023. that says, "Christianity,
  2024. Christianity, Christianity,"
  2025.  
  2026. 430
  2027. 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:55,216
  2028. then you also need to put up
  2029. our gigantic monument
  2030.  
  2031. 431
  2032. 00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:56,565
  2033. to Satanism.
  2034.  
  2035. 432
  2036. 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:02,179
  2037. Just imagine it,
  2038. a statue of Satan right here
  2039.  
  2040. 433
  2041. 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,617
  2042. next to the Ten Commandments
  2043. at the State Capitol.
  2044.  
  2045. 434
  2046. 00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:07,968
  2047. The statue will be a symbol
  2048. of Satan as a goat.
  2049.  
  2050. 435
  2051. 00:24:08,142 --> 00:24:09,360
  2052. I want to show you
  2053.  
  2054. 436
  2055. 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:11,600
  2056. what this is gonna look like.
  2057. Take a look here.
  2058.  
  2059. 437
  2060. 00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:14,278
  2061. It's a seven-foot-tall
  2062. goat-headed demon
  2063.  
  2064. 438
  2065. 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,368
  2066. sitting on a throne
  2067. with two children next to it.
  2068.  
  2069. 439
  2070. 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,343
  2071. They submitted designs,
  2072.  
  2073. 440
  2074. 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,377
  2075. and they hope construction
  2076. will start soon.
  2077.  
  2078. 441
  2079. 00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,823
  2080. If we're gonna do this,
  2081. we're gonna do it right.
  2082.  
  2083. 442
  2084. 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,948
  2085. This is not something
  2086. that can be easily ripped down.
  2087.  
  2088. 443
  2089. 00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:33,602
  2090. Like, we're gonna
  2091. do this in bronze.
  2092.  
  2093. 444
  2094. 00:24:33,776 --> 00:24:35,216
  2095. We're gonna make
  2096. something beautiful.
  2097.  
  2098. 445
  2099. 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:36,739
  2100. We're gonna make
  2101. something permanent.
  2102.  
  2103. 446
  2104. 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,607
  2105. So we decided to raise money
  2106.  
  2107. 447
  2108. 00:24:38,781 --> 00:24:42,263
  2109. to make
  2110. a gigantic Satanic statue.
  2111.  
  2112. 448
  2113. 00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:45,875
  2114. And I have a friend who studied
  2115. traditional sculpting,
  2116.  
  2117. 449
  2118. 00:24:46,049 --> 00:24:48,443
  2119. so I called him up,
  2120. told him the deal.
  2121.  
  2122. 450
  2123. 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,054
  2124. He said, "Are you serious?"
  2125.  
  2126. 451
  2127. 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,535
  2128. and I said, "Yes, I am,"
  2129. and he said...
  2130.  
  2131. 452
  2132. 00:24:54,841 --> 00:24:56,103
  2133. "I'm going to clear
  2134.  
  2135. 453
  2136. 00:24:56,277 --> 00:24:57,931
  2137. the next six months
  2138. of my schedule."
  2139.  
  2140. 454
  2141. 00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:00,499
  2142. ♪ There's a call
  2143. Comes ringing ♪
  2144.  
  2145. 455
  2146. 00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:02,588
  2147. ♪ O'er the restless wave ♪
  2148.  
  2149. 456
  2150. 00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:07,027
  2151. ♪ Send the light
  2152. Send the light ♪
  2153.  
  2154. 457
  2155. 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:11,901
  2156. ♪ There are souls to rescue
  2157. There are souls to save ♪
  2158.  
  2159. 458
  2160. 00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:16,079
  2161. ♪ Send the light
  2162. Send the light ♪
  2163.  
  2164. 459
  2165. 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:18,473
  2166. - ♪ Send the light ♪
  2167. - ♪ Send the light ♪
  2168.  
  2169. 460
  2170. 00:25:18,647 --> 00:25:20,823
  2171. ♪ The blessed gospel light ♪
  2172.  
  2173. 461
  2174. 00:25:20,997 --> 00:25:23,130
  2175. - ♪ Let it shine ♪
  2176. - ♪ Let it shine ♪
  2177.  
  2178. 462
  2179. 00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:25,304
  2180. - ♪ From shore to shore ♪
  2181. - ♪ From shore to shore ♪
  2182.  
  2183. 463
  2184. 00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,308
  2185. - ♪ Send the light ♪
  2186. - ♪ Send the light ♪
  2187.  
  2188. 464
  2189. 00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:29,832
  2190. ♪ The blessed gospel light ♪
  2191.  
  2192. 465
  2193. 00:25:30,006 --> 00:25:31,834
  2194. - ♪ Let it shine ♪
  2195. - ♪ Let it shine ♪
  2196.  
  2197. 466
  2198. 00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:34,184
  2199. - ♪ Forevermore... ♪
  2200. - ♪ Forevermore... ♪
  2201.  
  2202. 467
  2203. 00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:37,057
  2204. I was envisioning,
  2205. you know, goat head,
  2206.  
  2207. 468
  2208. 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,233
  2209. I mean, everything
  2210. you associate with Satanism.
  2211.  
  2212. 469
  2213. 00:25:39,407 --> 00:25:41,191
  2214. Lucien became involved
  2215. at that point
  2216.  
  2217. 470
  2218. 00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,803
  2219. and kind of codified it
  2220. into an actual Baphomet.
  2221.  
  2222. 471
  2223. 00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:47,241
  2224. The Baphomet image was taken
  2225.  
  2226. 472
  2227. 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:50,679
  2228. from a 19th century drawing
  2229. of the sabbatic goat.
  2230.  
  2231. 473
  2232. 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,074
  2233. I originally wanted
  2234. bat wings,
  2235.  
  2236. 474
  2237. 00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:55,768
  2238. but a Baphomet
  2239. does not have bat wings.
  2240.  
  2241. 475
  2242. 00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:57,294
  2243. It has angel wings.
  2244.  
  2245. 476
  2246. 00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:02,735
  2247. We decided that Iggy Pop
  2248. would be the torso.
  2249.  
  2250. 477
  2251. 00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:07,348
  2252. And a real Baphomet
  2253. traditionally has breasts,
  2254.  
  2255. 478
  2256. 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,437
  2257. but because we wanted
  2258. to get this
  2259.  
  2260. 479
  2261. 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:10,873
  2262. in front of the State Capitol,
  2263.  
  2264. 480
  2265. 00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:12,764
  2266. we were worried that
  2267. the breasts would hinder us
  2268.  
  2269. 481
  2270. 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:13,789
  2271. from doing that.
  2272.  
  2273. 482
  2274. 00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:16,705
  2275. One of the things
  2276. that I insisted upon
  2277.  
  2278. 483
  2279. 00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:20,840
  2280. was having two children...
  2281. looking up.
  2282.  
  2283. 484
  2284. 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:26,454
  2285. Having little kids around it,
  2286. that's just ridiculous.
  2287.  
  2288. 485
  2289. 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:28,891
  2290. Are we making a mockery
  2291. of everything
  2292.  
  2293. 486
  2294. 00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:30,893
  2295. with regard to Christianity
  2296. in this society?
  2297.  
  2298. 487
  2299. 00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:32,503
  2300. You may not like the Satanists.
  2301.  
  2302. 488
  2303. 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:34,288
  2304. Guess what?
  2305. That doesn't matter.
  2306.  
  2307. 489
  2308. 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:36,832
  2309. - Do you? Do you?
  2310. - Everybody is equal.
  2311.  
  2312. 490
  2313. 00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,696
  2314. I don't care. All religions
  2315. are the same to me.
  2316.  
  2317. 491
  2318. 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,575
  2319. So you think it's perfectly fine
  2320. to put a satanic
  2321.  
  2322. 492
  2323. 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,185
  2324. whatever message
  2325. they're gonna have up there?
  2326.  
  2327. 493
  2328. 00:26:42,209 --> 00:26:43,534
  2329. - How crazy is it?
  2330. - Yes. I mean... You believe
  2331.  
  2332. 494
  2333. 00:26:43,558 --> 00:26:44,918
  2334. in an invisible man
  2335. in the sky too.
  2336.  
  2337. 495
  2338. 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,276
  2339. You call him Satan,
  2340. you call him God. I don't care.
  2341.  
  2342. 496
  2343. 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,300
  2344. Whatever I believe in...
  2345.  
  2346. 497
  2347. 00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:49,540
  2348. I had followed
  2349. the Satanic Temple
  2350.  
  2351. 498
  2352. 00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:50,957
  2353. in the news
  2354. when they had announced
  2355.  
  2356. 499
  2357. 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:52,761
  2358. that they were making
  2359. the Baphomet statue.
  2360.  
  2361. 500
  2362. 00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:55,048
  2363. I thought it was
  2364. genuinely inspired.
  2365.  
  2366. 501
  2367. 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:56,963
  2368. I thought it was hilarious.
  2369.  
  2370. 502
  2371. 00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,400
  2372. And I was completely astounded.
  2373.  
  2374. 503
  2375. 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,620
  2376. These guys are super cool.
  2377. These are my people.
  2378.  
  2379. 504
  2380. 00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:03,491
  2381. This is the best thing
  2382. I've ever seen.
  2383.  
  2384. 505
  2385. 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:06,059
  2386. - I was like, "Holy shit."
  2387. - I want to be a part of this.
  2388.  
  2389. 506
  2390. 00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:11,151
  2391. I think
  2392. I donated 25 dollars,
  2393.  
  2394. 507
  2395. 00:27:11,325 --> 00:27:13,588
  2396. and then I wrote them and said,
  2397. "If you're ever in L.A.
  2398.  
  2399. 508
  2400. 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:15,155
  2401. and you need some help,
  2402. hit me up."
  2403.  
  2404. 509
  2405. 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:16,915
  2406. I think you're
  2407. an incredible organization,
  2408.  
  2409. 510
  2410. 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,506
  2411. and I would really like
  2412. to be involved.
  2413.  
  2414. 511
  2415. 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,446
  2416. From a constitutional
  2417. law perspective,
  2418.  
  2419. 512
  2420. 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,100
  2421. I'm really interested
  2422. in the Satanic Temple
  2423.  
  2424. 513
  2425. 00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:30,474
  2426. because it is basically
  2427. making these public bodies
  2428.  
  2429. 514
  2430. 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:34,478
  2431. confront the real implications
  2432. of their decisions
  2433.  
  2434. 515
  2435. 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,350
  2436. to allow religion
  2437. into the public square.
  2438.  
  2439. 516
  2440. 00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,154
  2441. The government can't say,
  2442. "You're a good religion.
  2443.  
  2444. 517
  2445. 00:27:38,178 --> 00:27:39,178
  2446. You're a bad religion."
  2447.  
  2448. 518
  2449. 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,026
  2450. - What?
  2451. - That's why you should not have
  2452.  
  2453. 519
  2454. 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:42,288
  2455. religious artifacts
  2456. on public property.
  2457.  
  2458. 520
  2459. 00:27:42,312 --> 00:27:44,053
  2460. Their figurehead
  2461. is an Antichrist.
  2462.  
  2463. 521
  2464. 00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,827
  2465. They should be able to put
  2466. the statue up,
  2467.  
  2468. 522
  2469. 00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,101
  2470. and then they should be shot
  2471. right next to it,
  2472.  
  2473. 523
  2474. 00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:50,514
  2475. - and then we take it down.
  2476. - So violence is the way
  2477.  
  2478. 524
  2479. 00:27:50,538 --> 00:27:52,298
  2480. - of dealing with it?
  2481. - Yes. You're advocating
  2482.  
  2483. 525
  2484. 00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:54,242
  2485. violence against people
  2486. with religious beliefs...
  2487.  
  2488. 526
  2489. 00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:58,372
  2490. The Baphomet monument
  2491. is far more
  2492.  
  2493. 527
  2494. 00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:02,419
  2495. than simply some middle finger
  2496. to the evangelical right.
  2497.  
  2498. 528
  2499. 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:06,032
  2500. Really... we were...
  2501.  
  2502. 529
  2503. 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:09,339
  2504. we were giving the Oklahoma
  2505. government a civics lesson.
  2506.  
  2507. 530
  2508. 00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:12,212
  2509. It must be removed.
  2510.  
  2511. 531
  2512. 00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:14,736
  2513. That is the order on the
  2514. Ten Commandments monument
  2515.  
  2516. 532
  2517. 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:17,696
  2518. outside the State Capitol
  2519. in a seven-to-two vote
  2520.  
  2521. 533
  2522. 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,219
  2523. by the Oklahoma Supreme Court.
  2524.  
  2525. 534
  2526. 00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:20,805
  2527. Well, a group
  2528. of Satanists
  2529.  
  2530. 535
  2531. 00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,309
  2532. is tonight claiming victory.
  2533.  
  2534. 536
  2535. 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,225
  2536. Are you still pushing to have
  2537. the goat with the horns
  2538.  
  2539. 537
  2540. 00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:27,227
  2541. and so on put up
  2542. on the State Capitol grounds?
  2543.  
  2544. 538
  2545. 00:28:28,881 --> 00:28:30,752
  2546. No, we don't want
  2547. our monument there
  2548.  
  2549. 539
  2550. 00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:32,754
  2551. without the Ten Commandments there. Um,
  2552.  
  2553. 540
  2554. 00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:35,583
  2555. the point all along was
  2556. that it would complement
  2557.  
  2558. 541
  2559. 00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,037
  2560. and contrast
  2561. the Ten Commandments
  2562.  
  2563. 542
  2564. 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,414
  2565. and reaffirm that we live
  2566. in a pluralistic nation
  2567.  
  2568. 543
  2569. 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,504
  2570. that respects diversity
  2571. and religious liberty.
  2572.  
  2573. 544
  2574. 00:28:56,996 --> 00:29:01,000
  2575. I joined this group
  2576. because I saw the TST website,
  2577.  
  2578. 545
  2579. 00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,393
  2580. and it was something
  2581. that spoke to me.
  2582.  
  2583. 546
  2584. 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,339
  2585. - Thank you.
  2586. - When people wanted
  2587.  
  2588. 547
  2589. 00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:18,974
  2590. to start identifying
  2591. with the Satanic Temple,
  2592.  
  2593. 548
  2594. 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,498
  2595. there was no turning back
  2596. on that.
  2597.  
  2598. 549
  2599. 00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:23,109
  2600. People would write us messages
  2601.  
  2602. 550
  2603. 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:24,643
  2604. and were wanting
  2605. to get involved...
  2606.  
  2607. 551
  2608. 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,854
  2609. so we decided
  2610. to allow people to apply
  2611.  
  2612. 552
  2613. 00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:30,812
  2614. to run a chapter
  2615. in their own city.
  2616.  
  2617. 553
  2618. 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:35,556
  2619. I decided to launch
  2620. a chapter in Detroit.
  2621.  
  2622. 554
  2623. 00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:38,951
  2624. Response was incredible.
  2625. It was huge.
  2626.  
  2627. 555
  2628. 00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:42,084
  2629. Hail Satan. Hail Satan.
  2630.  
  2631. 556
  2632. 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:46,618
  2633. I don't know
  2634. if I was surprised
  2635.  
  2636. 557
  2637. 00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,101
  2638. that people wanted
  2639. to get involved.
  2640.  
  2641. 558
  2642. 00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:51,103
  2643. I was surprised at how many people
  2644. wanted to get involved.
  2645.  
  2646. 559
  2647. 00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,552
  2648. All right, friends.
  2649. Thanks for coming.
  2650.  
  2651. 560
  2652. 00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,621
  2653. Um, I want to tell you guys
  2654. to start with
  2655.  
  2656. 561
  2657. 00:29:58,405 --> 00:30:00,711
  2658. that we have three people
  2659. that we want to make
  2660.  
  2661. 562
  2662. 00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:05,455
  2663. new members today.
  2664. Nick, and Dell, and Erin.
  2665.  
  2666. 563
  2667. 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,067
  2668. We have a lot of work
  2669. to do,
  2670.  
  2671. 564
  2672. 00:30:08,545 --> 00:30:11,331
  2673. and I think Christian privilege
  2674. is a huge problem in our country
  2675.  
  2676. 565
  2677. 00:30:11,505 --> 00:30:14,595
  2678. because it dictates our laws.
  2679. It dictates everything we do,
  2680.  
  2681. 566
  2682. 00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,032
  2683. what bathroom I can use
  2684. in some states.
  2685.  
  2686. 567
  2687. 00:30:17,206 --> 00:30:19,513
  2688. - Hail Satan.
  2689. - Hail Satan.
  2690.  
  2691. 568
  2692. 00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:27,042
  2693. I've just always been
  2694. an extremely curious person.
  2695.  
  2696. 569
  2697. 00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:28,827
  2698. And I used to spend
  2699. a lot of time
  2700.  
  2701. 570
  2702. 00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:31,612
  2703. at the bookstore alone
  2704. because I was a huge loser.
  2705.  
  2706. 571
  2707. 00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:33,744
  2708. 'Cause I don't like to be
  2709. involved in groups.
  2710.  
  2711. 572
  2712. 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,311
  2713. I'm not a very social person.
  2714.  
  2715. 573
  2716. 00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,357
  2717. Most of my interactions
  2718. are online.
  2719.  
  2720. 574
  2721. 00:30:37,531 --> 00:30:40,316
  2722. It wasn't until I took
  2723. that step to try to meet
  2724.  
  2725. 575
  2726. 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:44,668
  2727. these people, that's where
  2728. it really all came together,
  2729.  
  2730. 576
  2731. 00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:46,975
  2732. and I was terrified that I was
  2733. just gonna
  2734.  
  2735. 577
  2736. 00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:48,629
  2737. meet a bunch of people
  2738. that were like,
  2739.  
  2740. 578
  2741. 00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,085
  2742. "All right, so we're gonna
  2743. meet up at the church.
  2744.  
  2745. 579
  2746. 00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:51,371
  2747. We'll hand out
  2748. spray paint cans,
  2749.  
  2750. 580
  2751. 00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,852
  2752. and we'll kick over
  2753. some graves." And...
  2754.  
  2755. 581
  2756. 00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:56,637
  2757. everyone was amazing.
  2758.  
  2759. 582
  2760. 00:30:56,811 --> 00:30:57,856
  2761. I came from a very,
  2762.  
  2763. 583
  2764. 00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,162
  2765. like, conservatively
  2766. religious background.
  2767.  
  2768. 584
  2769. 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:04,688
  2770. I was very much a devout
  2771. Christian growing up.
  2772.  
  2773. 585
  2774. 00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:06,690
  2775. You could almost say a zealot.
  2776.  
  2777. 586
  2778. 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,779
  2779. I've taught Bible school
  2780. in our church.
  2781.  
  2782. 587
  2783. 00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,738
  2784. I've taught Sunday school
  2785. in our church,
  2786.  
  2787. 588
  2788. 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:14,698
  2789. and at the age of 13,
  2790. I was called to be a deacon.
  2791.  
  2792. 589
  2793. 00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:17,179
  2794. The day that I graduated
  2795. confirmation,
  2796.  
  2797. 590
  2798. 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,789
  2799. you know,
  2800. we're sitting in church,
  2801.  
  2802. 591
  2803. 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:20,487
  2804. and, you know,
  2805. we're supposed to feel
  2806.  
  2807. 592
  2808. 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,011
  2809. the holy spirit come in,
  2810. and I'm just like...
  2811.  
  2812. 593
  2813. 00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:27,928
  2814. ...okay.
  2815.  
  2816. 594
  2817. 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,149
  2818. When I was in sixth grade,
  2819.  
  2820. 595
  2821. 00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:33,892
  2822. we went on a field trip
  2823. to see the film Gandhi.
  2824.  
  2825. 596
  2826. 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,721
  2827. The next day
  2828. our history teacher said,
  2829.  
  2830. 597
  2831. 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,376
  2832. "You realize that in spite
  2833. of all these great things
  2834.  
  2835. 598
  2836. 00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:43,162
  2837. that he did for his countrymen
  2838. and everything like that,
  2839.  
  2840. 599
  2841. 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:46,382
  2842. because he wasn't a Christian,
  2843. he went to hell,"
  2844.  
  2845. 600
  2846. 00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:48,950
  2847. and I'm like, "Really?"
  2848.  
  2849. 601
  2850. 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:53,346
  2851. This guy almost invented
  2852. the idea of nonviolent protest,
  2853.  
  2854. 602
  2855. 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:55,826
  2856. but he's not a Christian,
  2857. so he went to hell.
  2858.  
  2859. 603
  2860. 00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:59,352
  2861. I'm like, "Is that the moral
  2862. to this story? Really?
  2863.  
  2864. 604
  2865. 00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:01,180
  2866. I call bullshit!"
  2867.  
  2868. 605
  2869. 00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,096
  2870. This thing inside me
  2871. was just, like...
  2872.  
  2873. 606
  2874. 00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:08,187
  2875. I want to be the opposite
  2876. of what these people are.
  2877.  
  2878. 607
  2879. 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:13,018
  2880. That's when I started, like,
  2881. looking for Satan anywhere.
  2882.  
  2883. 608
  2884. 00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:16,760
  2885. - Hail Satan.
  2886. - Hail Satan.
  2887.  
  2888. 609
  2889. 00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:24,483
  2890. When I became a member
  2891. of the Satanic Temple,
  2892.  
  2893. 610
  2894. 00:32:24,507 --> 00:32:26,770
  2895. when I fully embraced
  2896. who I was as a Satanist,
  2897.  
  2898. 611
  2899. 00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:28,424
  2900. uh, it was my coming home.
  2901.  
  2902. 612
  2903. 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:31,079
  2904. This is crazy. Isn't this crazy?
  2905.  
  2906. 613
  2907. 00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:34,583
  2908. You all, like,
  2909. came from all over the place.
  2910.  
  2911. 614
  2912. 00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:37,886
  2913. - Yeah.
  2914. - Yeah.
  2915.  
  2916. 615
  2917. 00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:43,135
  2918. Invoking Satan is invoking
  2919. the struggle for justice
  2920.  
  2921. 616
  2922. 00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:45,572
  2923. and equality for everyone.
  2924.  
  2925. 617
  2926. 00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:47,878
  2927. Invoking Satan
  2928. is the firm denial
  2929.  
  2930. 618
  2931. 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,576
  2932. that only one point of view
  2933. is correct.
  2934.  
  2935. 619
  2936. 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,510
  2937. A willingness to fight
  2938. for all points of view
  2939.  
  2940. 620
  2941. 00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,449
  2942. in accordance with reason
  2943. is imperative.
  2944.  
  2945. 621
  2946. 00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:54,841
  2947. Invoking Satan
  2948.  
  2949. 622
  2950. 00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,105
  2951. is to reach out
  2952. without reservation
  2953.  
  2954. 623
  2955. 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:58,759
  2956. and eat from the tree
  2957. of knowledge
  2958.  
  2959. 624
  2960. 00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:01,501
  2961. rather than be subjected
  2962. to the whims of blind faith.
  2963.  
  2964. 625
  2965. 00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,807
  2966. We will no longer choose
  2967. apathy over action
  2968.  
  2969. 626
  2970. 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,505
  2971. and perpetuate
  2972. our own oppression.
  2973.  
  2974. 627
  2975. 00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:08,029
  2976. Ave Satanas.
  2977.  
  2978. 628
  2979. 00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:09,784
  2980. - Ave Satanas.
  2981. - Ave Satanas.
  2982.  
  2983. 629
  2984. 00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:12,120
  2985. Hail Satan!
  2986.  
  2987. 630
  2988. 00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:14,993
  2989. Oh, those are cute.
  2990.  
  2991. 631
  2992. 00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:19,475
  2993. Satanism is looking out
  2994. for the Other
  2995.  
  2996. 632
  2997. 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,434
  2998. because we are the Other.
  2999.  
  3000. 633
  3001. 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:29,224
  3002. In three years, we have gone
  3003. from three people to 50,000.
  3004.  
  3005. 634
  3006. 00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,317
  3007. As we bring the Satanic
  3008. revolution to the world,
  3009.  
  3010. 635
  3011. 00:33:35,491 --> 00:33:40,453
  3012. we do indeed invoke Satan
  3013. and all that he means to us.
  3014.  
  3015. 636
  3016. 00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:44,370
  3017. Join us in reciting,
  3018. ave Satanas!
  3019.  
  3020. 637
  3021. 00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:46,633
  3022. Ave Satanas!
  3023.  
  3024. 638
  3025. 00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:50,158
  3026. - Hail Satan!
  3027. - Hail Satan!
  3028.  
  3029. 639
  3030. 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:54,119
  3031. - Ave Satanas!
  3032. - Ave Satanas!
  3033.  
  3034. 640
  3035. 00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:57,818
  3036. - Hail Satan!
  3037. - Hail Satan!
  3038.  
  3039. 641
  3040. 00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:12,702
  3041. I was just a member,
  3042. a card-carrying member,
  3043.  
  3044. 642
  3045. 00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:15,140
  3046. and I wanted to get
  3047. more involved,
  3048.  
  3049. 643
  3050. 00:34:15,314 --> 00:34:16,924
  3051. but I had no real
  3052. aspirations to be...
  3053.  
  3054. 644
  3055. 00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:20,536
  3056. you know, I don't know.
  3057. I just wanted to do something.
  3058.  
  3059. 645
  3060. 00:34:21,624 --> 00:34:24,627
  3061. In the capital of Phoenix,
  3062. there were these invocations
  3063.  
  3064. 646
  3065. 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:27,021
  3066. or prayers before city council meetings.
  3067.  
  3068. 647
  3069. 00:34:27,369 --> 00:34:30,111
  3070. So please, if you can,
  3071. stand for the invocation.
  3072.  
  3073. 648
  3074. 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:33,767
  3075. It's usually
  3076. a hundred percent Christian,
  3077.  
  3078. 649
  3079. 00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:36,813
  3080. and then every now and then
  3081. they'll throw another group in
  3082.  
  3083. 650
  3084. 00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,511
  3085. to celebrate
  3086. how diverse they are.
  3087.  
  3088. 651
  3089. 00:34:39,294 --> 00:34:41,403
  3090. I was a nobody.
  3091. I was kind of, like, you know,
  3092.  
  3093. 652
  3094. 00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:43,646
  3095. just in this organization
  3096. as a bystander,
  3097.  
  3098. 653
  3099. 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:46,040
  3100. commenting
  3101. and supporting online,
  3102.  
  3103. 654
  3104. 00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:49,130
  3105. and then I was very interested
  3106. in helping out
  3107.  
  3108. 655
  3109. 00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:51,089
  3110. in whatever capacity
  3111. that I could.
  3112.  
  3113. 656
  3114. 00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:53,874
  3115. Michelle was a radio personality
  3116. at the time.
  3117.  
  3118. 657
  3119. 00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:56,616
  3120. I was an attorney,
  3121. and the first thing we did
  3122.  
  3123. 658
  3124. 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:57,790
  3125. was we wrote an email
  3126.  
  3127. 659
  3128. 00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,750
  3129. to the city clerk in Phoenix
  3130. and said,
  3131.  
  3132. 660
  3133. 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,510
  3134. "Hey, we see you have
  3135. this invocation program
  3136.  
  3137. 661
  3138. 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:03,534
  3139. on a rotating basis.
  3140. We'd like to be on that list."
  3141.  
  3142. 662
  3143. 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:04,943
  3144. We got a response email
  3145. that said,
  3146.  
  3147. 663
  3148. 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:06,016
  3149. "Okay, here's your date."
  3150.  
  3151. 664
  3152. 00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:09,107
  3153. A lot of people talking
  3154. about the Satanic Temple
  3155.  
  3156. 665
  3157. 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:11,674
  3158. in Tucson,
  3159. set to give an invocation
  3160.  
  3161. 666
  3162. 00:35:11,848 --> 00:35:13,676
  3163. at the Phoenix city
  3164. council meeting
  3165.  
  3166. 667
  3167. 00:35:13,937 --> 00:35:14,982
  3168. coming up next month.
  3169.  
  3170. 668
  3171. 00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:18,464
  3172. "Let us demand
  3173. that individuals be judged
  3174.  
  3175. 669
  3176. 00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:19,987
  3177. for their concrete actions."
  3178.  
  3179. 670
  3180. 00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:21,892
  3181. That is just part
  3182. of the prayer
  3183.  
  3184. 671
  3185. 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,339
  3186. that members of the
  3187. Satanic Temple plan to read
  3188.  
  3189. 672
  3190. 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,044
  3191. at the Phoenix city
  3192. council meeting.
  3193.  
  3194. 673
  3195. 00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:27,536
  3196. People that were
  3197. interviewing us
  3198.  
  3199. 674
  3200. 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,952
  3201. were bringing holy water
  3202. with them.
  3203.  
  3204. 675
  3205. 00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:31,129
  3206. Uh, it was...
  3207. it was complete insanity,
  3208.  
  3209. 676
  3210. 00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:33,019
  3211. and there came a point
  3212. where Michelle and I were like,
  3213.  
  3214. 677
  3215. 00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,043
  3216. "What have we done?"
  3217.  
  3218. 678
  3219. 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,481
  3220. You wouldn't let ISIS come in
  3221.  
  3222. 679
  3223. 00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,255
  3224. and give a prayer
  3225. at the city of Phoenix.
  3226.  
  3227. 680
  3228. 00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:38,875
  3229. Are you comparing these guys
  3230. to ISIS?
  3231.  
  3232. 681
  3233. 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:41,704
  3234. Well, ISIS is evil.
  3235. What is Satan?
  3236.  
  3237. 682
  3238. 00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:44,248
  3239. I'd like to make a motion
  3240. to change the practice
  3241.  
  3242. 683
  3243. 00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:45,360
  3244. relating to invocations
  3245.  
  3246. 684
  3247. 00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:47,185
  3248. and those chosen
  3249. to give the invocation
  3250.  
  3251. 685
  3252. 00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:48,972
  3253. be residents
  3254. of the city of Phoenix.
  3255.  
  3256. 686
  3257. 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,191
  3258. That's okay to do that.
  3259.  
  3260. 687
  3261. 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:52,454
  3262. That's constitutional
  3263. to change it,
  3264.  
  3265. 688
  3266. 00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:53,934
  3267. but what we couldn't do
  3268.  
  3269. 689
  3270. 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,937
  3271. is apply it retroactively
  3272. in this case.
  3273.  
  3274. 690
  3275. 00:35:57,242 --> 00:36:00,027
  3276. That would be
  3277. an unconstitutional suppression
  3278.  
  3279. 691
  3280. 00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:03,073
  3281. of a minority
  3282. religious viewpoint,
  3283.  
  3284. 692
  3285. 00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:05,902
  3286. which is in contravention
  3287. of the First Amendment
  3288.  
  3289. 693
  3290. 00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:07,426
  3291. of the United States
  3292. Constitution.
  3293.  
  3294. 694
  3295. 00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:10,709
  3296. We knew that there were
  3297. gonna be meetings,
  3298.  
  3299. 695
  3300. 00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,300
  3301. but we decided that, uh,
  3302.  
  3303. 696
  3304. 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:14,125
  3305. it was probably dangerous
  3306. for us to go.
  3307.  
  3308. 697
  3309. 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:15,975
  3310. I mean, people were
  3311. threatening to murder us.
  3312.  
  3313. 698
  3314. 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,606
  3315. Uh, people were threatening
  3316. to shoot us
  3317.  
  3318. 699
  3319. 00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:20,308
  3320. on the way up the steps,
  3321. um, and it wasn't worth it,
  3322.  
  3323. 700
  3324. 00:36:20,482 --> 00:36:24,573
  3325. and it was streaming live,
  3326. so we watched in horror.
  3327.  
  3328. 701
  3329. 00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:27,707
  3330. We cannot stand by
  3331. while a hate group
  3332.  
  3333. 702
  3334. 00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:29,926
  3335. stands up
  3336. and gives your invocation.
  3337.  
  3338. 703
  3339. 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,146
  3340. It's our goal to shut down
  3341. their agenda,
  3342.  
  3343. 704
  3344. 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,062
  3345. which is to bring death
  3346. and destruction over Phoenix.
  3347.  
  3348. 705
  3349. 00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,934
  3350. We take a Pledge of Allegiance.
  3351. It's one nation under God.
  3352.  
  3353. 706
  3354. 00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:39,327
  3355. - Yes.
  3356. - Yes.
  3357.  
  3358. 707
  3359. 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,721
  3360. That's not out there by mistake.
  3361.  
  3362. 708
  3363. 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,857
  3364. How many people
  3365. actually have a dollar bill
  3366.  
  3367. 709
  3368. 00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:51,078
  3369. or a piece of money
  3370. in their wallet or their pocket?
  3371.  
  3372. 710
  3373. 00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:56,431
  3374. I do believe it says,
  3375. "In God We Trust."
  3376.  
  3377. 711
  3378. 00:36:56,605 --> 00:36:57,824
  3379. - Yes!
  3380. - Yes!
  3381.  
  3382. 712
  3383. 00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:03,133
  3384. So are we invoking still
  3385. the blessings of God
  3386.  
  3387. 713
  3388. 00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:04,961
  3389. on our state and our city?
  3390.  
  3391. 714
  3392. 00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:09,314
  3393. Are we invoking the curses
  3394. of the deity spoken of
  3395.  
  3396. 715
  3397. 00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:11,011
  3398. that they serve as Satan?
  3399.  
  3400. 716
  3401. 00:37:11,185 --> 00:37:13,492
  3402. There are too many curses
  3403. on our land,
  3404.  
  3405. 717
  3406. 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,581
  3407. and we don't need another curse.
  3408.  
  3409. 718
  3410. 00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,714
  3411. Do we want God in this room,
  3412. or don't we?
  3413.  
  3414. 719
  3415. 00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:21,239
  3416. Don't mock God.
  3417.  
  3418. 720
  3419. 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:23,545
  3420. We want to lift up
  3421. the name of Jesus.
  3422.  
  3423. 721
  3424. 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,319
  3425. There is no other name
  3426. in heaven on earth
  3427.  
  3428. 722
  3429. 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:28,463
  3430. whereby a man must be saved
  3431. in the name of Jesus Christ.
  3432.  
  3433. 723
  3434. 00:37:28,637 --> 00:37:31,423
  3435. Let's get that straight.
  3436. Make no mistake about it.
  3437.  
  3438. 724
  3439. 00:37:31,597 --> 00:37:33,425
  3440. Jesus is the way.
  3441.  
  3442. 725
  3443. 00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:35,427
  3444. Please, as briefly as possible.
  3445.  
  3446. 726
  3447. 00:37:35,601 --> 00:37:37,081
  3448. We have a lot of cards
  3449. to get through.
  3450.  
  3451. 727
  3452. 00:37:37,603 --> 00:37:38,995
  3453. In a matter of one week,
  3454.  
  3455. 728
  3456. 00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:41,171
  3457. a decades-old tradition
  3458. of public prayer
  3459.  
  3460. 729
  3461. 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:44,174
  3462. before the city of Phoenix
  3463. council meetings was history.
  3464.  
  3465. 730
  3466. 00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:47,003
  3467. In its place, a moment
  3468. of silent public prayer.
  3469.  
  3470. 731
  3471. 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,528
  3472. It's kind of shocking
  3473. that they would do away
  3474.  
  3475. 732
  3476. 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:50,964
  3477. with a 60-year tradition
  3478.  
  3479. 733
  3480. 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,227
  3481. for something
  3482. that was so harmless.
  3483.  
  3484. 734
  3485. 00:37:54,184 --> 00:37:56,274
  3486. The more hate
  3487. that was thrown at us,
  3488.  
  3489. 735
  3490. 00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:57,884
  3491. the more important this seemed
  3492.  
  3493. 736
  3494. 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,365
  3495. because it seemed
  3496. like such a deeper issue
  3497.  
  3498. 737
  3499. 00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,139
  3500. than a two-minute speech,
  3501. where I'm like,
  3502.  
  3503. 738
  3504. 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,325
  3505. "Is this how everyone
  3506. that's different is treated?"
  3507.  
  3508. 739
  3509. 00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:07,197
  3510. And, you know,
  3511.  
  3512. 740
  3513. 00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:09,765
  3514. it's not something
  3515. that I'd faced in my own life.
  3516.  
  3517. 741
  3518. 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,028
  3519. For me to get this
  3520. from my religion,
  3521.  
  3522. 742
  3523. 00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:16,294
  3524. a minority religion, um,
  3525. it was pretty eye-opening,
  3526.  
  3527. 743
  3528. 00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,121
  3529. and that's what made me realize
  3530.  
  3531. 744
  3532. 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:20,602
  3533. how absolutely important
  3534. this is.
  3535.  
  3536. 745
  3537. 00:38:29,698 --> 00:38:30,698
  3538. Thank you.
  3539.  
  3540. 746
  3541. 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,080
  3542. The bill today
  3543. allowing a monument
  3544.  
  3545. 747
  3546. 00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:45,104
  3547. of the Ten Commandments
  3548.  
  3549. 748
  3550. 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:46,951
  3551. to be placed
  3552. at the State Capitol
  3553.  
  3554. 749
  3555. 00:38:47,194 --> 00:38:48,935
  3556. was filed
  3557. by Senator Jason Rapert.
  3558.  
  3559. 750
  3560. 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,305
  3561. State Senator Jason Rapert
  3562. says the monument
  3563.  
  3564. 751
  3565. 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,243
  3566. isn't meant to be
  3567. a religious statement,
  3568.  
  3569. 752
  3570. 00:38:53,461 --> 00:38:54,854
  3571. rather a testament
  3572. to what he calls
  3573.  
  3574. 753
  3575. 00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,160
  3576. the historical
  3577. moral foundation of law.
  3578.  
  3579. 754
  3580. 00:38:57,335 --> 00:39:01,034
  3581. These references are woven
  3582. into the fabric of our society.
  3583.  
  3584. 755
  3585. 00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:02,775
  3586. We're one nation under God.
  3587.  
  3588. 756
  3589. 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,386
  3590. Our national motto
  3591. is in God We Trust.
  3592.  
  3593. 757
  3594. 00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:08,433
  3595. It's time in our country
  3596. to remind ourselves of,
  3597.  
  3598. 758
  3599. 00:39:08,607 --> 00:39:10,522
  3600. really, those things
  3601. that were important to us,
  3602.  
  3603. 759
  3604. 00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,001
  3605. that were universal to us.
  3606.  
  3607. 760
  3608. 00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:13,495
  3609. Senator Rapert,
  3610. you know, again...
  3611.  
  3612. 761
  3613. 00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:15,918
  3614. I'm a taxpaying member
  3615. of the state of Arkansas,
  3616.  
  3617. 762
  3618. 00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:17,808
  3619. and those
  3620. are my Capitol grounds,
  3621.  
  3622. 763
  3623. 00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:19,008
  3624. and I don't want that there.
  3625.  
  3626. 764
  3627. 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:24,623
  3628. I was a... I would say
  3629. a zesty little atheist,
  3630.  
  3631. 765
  3632. 00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:26,755
  3633. and I happened to go
  3634.  
  3635. 766
  3636. 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:29,367
  3637. to the American Atheist rally
  3638. in Memphis.
  3639.  
  3640. 767
  3641. 00:39:30,498 --> 00:39:31,498
  3642. One of the presenters
  3643.  
  3644. 768
  3645. 00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:33,390
  3646. is a gentleman
  3647. named Lucien Greaves.
  3648.  
  3649. 769
  3650. 00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:35,808
  3651. You may be aware
  3652. of our monument campaign
  3653.  
  3654. 770
  3655. 00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:36,982
  3656. in Oklahoma.
  3657.  
  3658. 771
  3659. 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,483
  3660. He proceeds to give
  3661. an entire presentation
  3662.  
  3663. 772
  3664. 00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:41,006
  3665. of how they took a Ten Commandments
  3666. monument down
  3667.  
  3668. 773
  3669. 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:42,030
  3670. in Oklahoma...
  3671.  
  3672. 774
  3673. 00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:45,470
  3674. and my immediate thought was,
  3675. "I've got to talk to this guy."
  3676.  
  3677. 775
  3678. 00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:49,343
  3679. - Our Lady Victory.
  3680. - Pray for us.
  3681.  
  3682. 776
  3683. 00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,869
  3684. Monuments to both
  3685. the Ten Commandments
  3686.  
  3687. 777
  3688. 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,524
  3689. and Satan could soon
  3690. find a home on the grounds
  3691.  
  3692. 778
  3693. 00:39:56,698 --> 00:39:58,483
  3694. near the Arkansas
  3695. State Capitol.
  3696.  
  3697. 779
  3698. 00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:00,297
  3699. Today the subcommittee
  3700. of the Capitol Arts
  3701.  
  3702. 780
  3703. 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,008
  3704. and Grounds Commissions
  3705. held meetings
  3706.  
  3707. 781
  3708. 00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:04,271
  3709. to review
  3710. the proposed monuments.
  3711.  
  3712. 782
  3713. 00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:06,491
  3714. The American History
  3715. and Heritage Foundation
  3716.  
  3717. 783
  3718. 00:40:06,665 --> 00:40:08,493
  3719. wants a Ten Commandments
  3720. monument,
  3721.  
  3722. 784
  3723. 00:40:08,667 --> 00:40:11,409
  3724. and the Satanic Temple
  3725. wants a statue of Baphomet.
  3726.  
  3727. 785
  3728. 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,063
  3729. I pledge allegiance
  3730. to the Flag
  3731.  
  3732. 786
  3733. 00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,326
  3734. of the United States
  3735. of America
  3736.  
  3737. 787
  3738. 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,155
  3739. and to the Republic
  3740. for which it stands,
  3741.  
  3742. 788
  3743. 00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:21,331
  3744. one nation, under God,
  3745.  
  3746. 789
  3747. 00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,813
  3748. indivisible, with liberty
  3749. and justice for all.
  3750.  
  3751. 790
  3752. 00:40:25,335 --> 00:40:28,600
  3753. Thank you.
  3754. And Mr. Lucien Graves is here.
  3755.  
  3756. 791
  3757. 00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:30,602
  3758. Did I pronounce that...
  3759. Graves, or...
  3760.  
  3761. 792
  3762. 00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:32,952
  3763. - Greaves.
  3764. - Greaves, I apologize.
  3765.  
  3766. 793
  3767. 00:40:33,126 --> 00:40:36,825
  3768. I want to get that right too,
  3769. but they have proposed to place
  3770.  
  3771. 794
  3772. 00:40:36,999 --> 00:40:41,134
  3773. a statue of Baphomet
  3774. on the Capitol grounds.
  3775.  
  3776. 795
  3777. 00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:45,660
  3778. Here's a... here's a more recent
  3779. picture of our monument, uh,
  3780.  
  3781. 796
  3782. 00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:48,489
  3783. it stands at eight feet,
  3784. six inches in height,
  3785.  
  3786. 797
  3787. 00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:51,231
  3788. a width at the base
  3789. of the throne
  3790.  
  3791. 798
  3792. 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:53,451
  3793. of 37 and a quarter inches.
  3794.  
  3795. 799
  3796. 00:40:53,842 --> 00:40:55,627
  3797. From the back
  3798. of the throne to the front
  3799.  
  3800. 800
  3801. 00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,933
  3802. it's 46 and a half inches,
  3803.  
  3804. 801
  3805. 00:40:58,281 --> 00:41:01,284
  3806. and the widest point
  3807. is at the tips of the wings,
  3808.  
  3809. 802
  3810. 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:03,852
  3811. which is 55 and a half inches
  3812. in width.
  3813.  
  3814. 803
  3815. 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:10,424
  3816. If you have any questions?
  3817.  
  3818. 804
  3819. 00:41:11,425 --> 00:41:15,995
  3820. What are you memorializing,
  3821. or what is your monument to?
  3822.  
  3823. 805
  3824. 00:41:16,778 --> 00:41:19,477
  3825. Well, we think
  3826. that our monument commemorates
  3827.  
  3828. 806
  3829. 00:41:19,651 --> 00:41:21,261
  3830. what makes America great,
  3831.  
  3832. 807
  3833. 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,656
  3834. and in our case, we believe
  3835. that that's religious liberty.
  3836.  
  3837. 808
  3838. 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,110
  3839. And you mentioned earlier
  3840.  
  3841. 809
  3842. 00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:28,070
  3843. that if the Ten Commandments
  3844. monument doesn't go up,
  3845.  
  3846. 810
  3847. 00:41:28,094 --> 00:41:30,183
  3848. then you would
  3849. withdraw this request?
  3850.  
  3851. 811
  3852. 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:32,272
  3853. Correct.
  3854. What we're trying to avoid
  3855.  
  3856. 812
  3857. 00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:35,057
  3858. is the appearance
  3859. of one religious viewpoint,
  3860.  
  3861. 813
  3862. 00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:37,756
  3863. uh, apparently co-opting
  3864. the power
  3865.  
  3866. 814
  3867. 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:40,149
  3868. and the authority
  3869. of a government institution.
  3870.  
  3871. 815
  3872. 00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:42,630
  3873. We feel that
  3874. that is unconstitutional.
  3875.  
  3876. 816
  3877. 00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:44,893
  3878. And just as
  3879. none of the Ten Commandments
  3880.  
  3881. 817
  3882. 00:41:45,067 --> 00:41:47,156
  3883. are cited
  3884. within the Constitution
  3885.  
  3886. 818
  3887. 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,855
  3888. or...
  3889. or in any of your state laws,
  3890.  
  3891. 819
  3892. 00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:55,556
  3893. um, the principle of this kind
  3894. of religious equality
  3895.  
  3896. 820
  3897. 00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:57,123
  3898. and government
  3899. viewpoint neutrality
  3900.  
  3901. 821
  3902. 00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,560
  3903. is enshrined
  3904. in the Constitution.
  3905.  
  3906. 822
  3907. 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:06,393
  3908. American jurisprudence based
  3909. a lot of our initial laws
  3910.  
  3911. 823
  3912. 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,743
  3913. on the Ten Commandments.
  3914. You will find this
  3915.  
  3916. 824
  3917. 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:10,919
  3918. in the writings
  3919. of our Founding Fathers.
  3920.  
  3921. 825
  3922. 00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:16,678
  3923. For most historians,
  3924. the question,
  3925.  
  3926. 826
  3927. 00:42:16,882 --> 00:42:18,602
  3928. "Was America founded
  3929. as a Christian nation?"
  3930.  
  3931. 827
  3932. 00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:20,494
  3933. is fairly straightforward
  3934. to answer.
  3935.  
  3936. 828
  3937. 00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:22,714
  3938. The record seems quite clear
  3939. that we were not.
  3940.  
  3941. 829
  3942. 00:42:23,932 --> 00:42:26,674
  3943. You can look
  3944. at the U.S. Constitution.
  3945.  
  3946. 830
  3947. 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,920
  3948. And when George Washington
  3949.  
  3950. 831
  3951. 00:42:28,981 --> 00:42:30,548
  3952. signed that document,
  3953.  
  3954. 832
  3955. 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:34,900
  3956. he laid the foundation
  3957. for our great democracy.
  3958.  
  3959. 833
  3960. 00:42:35,074 --> 00:42:40,166
  3961. G... gee, that's wonderful.
  3962.  
  3963. 834
  3964. 00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,516
  3965. The only mentions
  3966. of religion or God
  3967.  
  3968. 835
  3969. 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:43,690
  3970. in the Constitution,
  3971.  
  3972. 836
  3973. 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,216
  3974. uh, in fact, are ones that keep
  3975. religion away from the state.
  3976.  
  3977. 837
  3978. 00:42:47,477 --> 00:42:49,281
  3979. And if you look at the 1950s,
  3980. you can see a lot
  3981.  
  3982. 838
  3983. 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,656
  3984. of the trappings
  3985. that Americans point to today
  3986.  
  3987. 839
  3988. 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,353
  3989. as proof that their nation
  3990.  
  3991. 840
  3992. 00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:55,747
  3993. is a Christian nation
  3994. were invented.
  3995.  
  3996. 841
  3997. 00:42:55,921 --> 00:42:57,601
  3998. Many people say, well,
  3999. what is hell?
  4000.  
  4001. 842
  4002. 00:42:57,836 --> 00:43:00,236
  4003. - Hell is separation from God...
  4004. - We see in the 1950s
  4005.  
  4006. 843
  4007. 00:43:00,316 --> 00:43:03,145
  4008. the origins of what we might
  4009. term an evangelical lobby.
  4010.  
  4011. 844
  4012. 00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:05,191
  4013. Jesus demanded repentance.
  4014.  
  4015. 845
  4016. 00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:06,845
  4017. Billy Graham tells Americans
  4018.  
  4019. 846
  4020. 00:43:07,019 --> 00:43:09,717
  4021. that communism
  4022. is directed by Satan.
  4023.  
  4024. 847
  4025. 00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,111
  4026. We thought we could
  4027. get along without God.
  4028.  
  4029. 848
  4030. 00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:14,722
  4031. We thought we could get along
  4032. without a moral standard.
  4033.  
  4034. 849
  4035. 00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:17,246
  4036. We thought we could get along
  4037. without the Ten Commandments
  4038.  
  4039. 850
  4040. 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,726
  4041. and the Sermon on the Mount,
  4042.  
  4043. 851
  4044. 00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:21,860
  4045. and we're beginning to wake up
  4046. to the fact that we can't!
  4047.  
  4048. 852
  4049. 00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:27,039
  4050. Jesus said, "Except ye repent,
  4051. ye shall likewise perish."
  4052.  
  4053. 853
  4054. 00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:28,213
  4055. Repent!
  4056.  
  4057. 854
  4058. 00:43:34,263 --> 00:43:35,543
  4059. The country's just learned
  4060.  
  4061. 855
  4062. 00:43:36,004 --> 00:43:37,644
  4063. that the Soviet Union
  4064. has the atomic bomb,
  4065.  
  4066. 856
  4067. 00:43:37,745 --> 00:43:39,465
  4068. and he warns them
  4069. that Armageddon is coming.
  4070.  
  4071. 857
  4072. 00:43:40,182 --> 00:43:42,663
  4073. Unless the nation rediscovers
  4074. its religious roots,
  4075.  
  4076. 858
  4077. 00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:43,882
  4078. it'll be destroyed.
  4079.  
  4080. 859
  4081. 00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:48,147
  4082. As America went to war
  4083. with the godless communists
  4084.  
  4085. 860
  4086. 00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:49,321
  4087. of the Soviet Union,
  4088.  
  4089. 861
  4090. 00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:51,716
  4091. Americans discovered
  4092. God themselves.
  4093.  
  4094. 862
  4095. 00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:55,023
  4096. And so
  4097. this is a remarkable moment
  4098.  
  4099. 863
  4100. 00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:57,306
  4101. when the nation really does
  4102. start to think of itself
  4103.  
  4104. 864
  4105. 00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:58,330
  4106. as Christian.
  4107.  
  4108. 865
  4109. 00:43:59,158 --> 00:44:00,812
  4110. In just the span
  4111. of a few years,
  4112.  
  4113. 866
  4114. 00:44:01,029 --> 00:44:02,949
  4115. "Under God" is added
  4116. to the Pledge of Allegiance,
  4117.  
  4118. 867
  4119. 00:44:03,075 --> 00:44:05,207
  4120. "In God We Trust"
  4121. is placed on paper currency
  4122.  
  4123. 868
  4124. 00:44:05,381 --> 00:44:06,861
  4125. and becomes
  4126. the nation's motto.
  4127.  
  4128. 869
  4129. 00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,777
  4130. For most Americans,
  4131. these ceremonies
  4132.  
  4133. 870
  4134. 00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:12,127
  4135. and slogans
  4136. mattered more than anything
  4137.  
  4138. 871
  4139. 00:44:12,301 --> 00:44:14,173
  4140. that was literally written
  4141. in the Constitution
  4142.  
  4143. 872
  4144. 00:44:14,347 --> 00:44:16,628
  4145. because they were the things
  4146. they said day in and day out.
  4147.  
  4148. 873
  4149. 00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:19,308
  4150. Their kids said the Pledge.
  4151. They saw it on their money.
  4152.  
  4153. 874
  4154. 00:44:19,918 --> 00:44:21,484
  4155. It was all over their world.
  4156.  
  4157. 875
  4158. 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,096
  4159. It really becomes
  4160. an integral part
  4161.  
  4162. 876
  4163. 00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:26,011
  4164. of who Americans
  4165. think they are.
  4166.  
  4167. 877
  4168. 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,798
  4169. We are what we believe.
  4170.  
  4171. 878
  4172. 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,559
  4173. Victory today
  4174. for the placement
  4175.  
  4176. 879
  4177. 00:44:36,586 --> 00:44:38,260
  4178. of a Satanic monument
  4179. on State Capitol grounds.
  4180.  
  4181. 880
  4182. 00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:40,678
  4183. That's right. This proposal
  4184. is deemed sufficient
  4185.  
  4186. 881
  4187. 00:44:40,852 --> 00:44:42,680
  4188. by the Capitol Arts
  4189. and Grounds Commission,
  4190.  
  4191. 882
  4192. 00:44:42,854 --> 00:44:45,160
  4193. but now comes the hurdle
  4194. of getting the statue
  4195.  
  4196. 883
  4197. 00:44:45,334 --> 00:44:46,988
  4198. approved by the legislature.
  4199.  
  4200. 884
  4201. 00:44:48,555 --> 00:44:52,690
  4202. It will be a very cold,
  4203. cold day in the pits of hell
  4204.  
  4205. 885
  4206. 00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:56,302
  4207. before you'll ever see a statue
  4208. from the Satanic Temple
  4209.  
  4210. 886
  4211. 00:44:56,476 --> 00:45:00,219
  4212. or some other group like that
  4213. at the Arkansas Capitol.
  4214.  
  4215. 887
  4216. 00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:03,613
  4217. For Greaves,
  4218. it's a monumental task ahead,
  4219.  
  4220. 888
  4221. 00:45:03,788 --> 00:45:04,788
  4222. stirring up what could be
  4223.  
  4224. 889
  4225. 00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:06,751
  4226. a controversy
  4227. of biblical proportions
  4228.  
  4229. 890
  4230. 00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:08,749
  4231. on the Arkansas
  4232. State Capitol grounds.
  4233.  
  4234. 891
  4235. 00:45:10,577 --> 00:45:12,076
  4236. Do you think
  4237. that most people think
  4238.  
  4239. 892
  4240. 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,599
  4241. you're kidding
  4242. or that most people think
  4243.  
  4244. 893
  4245. 00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:14,623
  4246. you're evil?
  4247.  
  4248. 894
  4249. 00:45:15,495 --> 00:45:16,775
  4250. You know,
  4251. it's really interesting
  4252.  
  4253. 895
  4254. 00:45:17,105 --> 00:45:19,412
  4255. because people
  4256. who don't understand the value
  4257.  
  4258. 896
  4259. 00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:21,544
  4260. and concepts of Satanism
  4261. are so ingrained
  4262.  
  4263. 897
  4264. 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,025
  4265. in this Judeo-Christian
  4266. concept of good and evil.
  4267.  
  4268. 898
  4269. 00:45:24,373 --> 00:45:27,115
  4270. Of course, why would anybody
  4271. claim to embrace evil?
  4272.  
  4273. 899
  4274. 00:45:27,768 --> 00:45:28,813
  4275. But we're not doing that.
  4276.  
  4277. 900
  4278. 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:34,035
  4279. Holy Mary, mother of God,
  4280. pray for us sinners,
  4281.  
  4282. 901
  4283. 00:45:34,209 --> 00:45:36,342
  4284. now and at the hour
  4285. of our death, amen.
  4286.  
  4287. 902
  4288. 00:45:38,126 --> 00:45:39,190
  4289. The bagpipes had just started
  4290.  
  4291. 903
  4292. 00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:40,214
  4293. playing once again.
  4294.  
  4295. 904
  4296. 00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:42,799
  4297. This is all happening
  4298. because the newly-formed
  4299.  
  4300. 905
  4301. 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:45,655
  4302. After School Satan Club
  4303. is holding an open house.
  4304.  
  4305. 906
  4306. 00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:48,310
  4307. Organizers say
  4308. the After School Satan Club
  4309.  
  4310. 907
  4311. 00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:51,052
  4312. is designed to counter
  4313. after-school Christian clubs
  4314.  
  4315. 908
  4316. 00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:53,315
  4317. holding meetings
  4318. inside public schools.
  4319.  
  4320. 909
  4321. 00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:55,335
  4322. The Satanic Temple
  4323.  
  4324. 910
  4325. 00:45:55,709 --> 00:45:56,709
  4326. says that the club is meant
  4327. to broaden
  4328.  
  4329. 911
  4330. 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:57,885
  4331. the mindset of students
  4332.  
  4333. 912
  4334. 00:45:58,233 --> 00:45:59,713
  4335. through critical
  4336. thinking skills.
  4337.  
  4338. 913
  4339. 00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:06,938
  4340. You know, I understand
  4341. you guys don't want to follow
  4342.  
  4343. 914
  4344. 00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:08,766
  4345. the status quo of religion.
  4346. That's fine.
  4347.  
  4348. 915
  4349. 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:10,220
  4350. What you guys do
  4351. on your own time
  4352.  
  4353. 916
  4354. 00:46:10,332 --> 00:46:11,812
  4355. - is your own business.
  4356. - Mm-hmm.
  4357.  
  4358. 917
  4359. 00:46:11,943 --> 00:46:13,485
  4360. If you really just want
  4361. to help the community,
  4362.  
  4363. 918
  4364. 00:46:13,509 --> 00:46:14,573
  4365. - then go help the community.
  4366. - We can help
  4367.  
  4368. 919
  4369. 00:46:14,597 --> 00:46:15,816
  4370. the community as Satanists.
  4371.  
  4372. 920
  4373. 00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:18,273
  4374. How are you guys gonna help
  4375. the community as Satanists?
  4376.  
  4377. 921
  4378. 00:46:18,297 --> 00:46:19,840
  4379. - We have been.
  4380. - When people already have...
  4381.  
  4382. 922
  4383. 00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:21,082
  4384. Around the country.
  4385.  
  4386. 923
  4387. 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,476
  4388. We are providing
  4389. an alternate viewpoint,
  4390.  
  4391. 924
  4392. 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:25,695
  4393. an opportunity for kids
  4394. to have an understanding
  4395.  
  4396. 925
  4397. 00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:27,848
  4398. that there is different ways
  4399. of looking at the world.
  4400.  
  4401. 926
  4402. 00:46:27,872 --> 00:46:29,612
  4403. That's fine.
  4404. You're not their parents.
  4405.  
  4406. 927
  4407. 00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:31,587
  4408. Why don't you go do this
  4409. at your kids' school?
  4410.  
  4411. 928
  4412. 00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:33,878
  4413. - Please, please...
  4414. - You guys are horrible people.
  4415.  
  4416. 929
  4417. 00:46:34,052 --> 00:46:36,358
  4418. You have scared
  4419. an entire school district.
  4420.  
  4421. 930
  4422. 00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:38,230
  4423. You have frightened
  4424. an entire community.
  4425.  
  4426. 931
  4427. 00:46:38,404 --> 00:46:40,449
  4428. I hope that falls in line
  4429. with your guise
  4430.  
  4431. 932
  4432. 00:46:40,623 --> 00:46:42,756
  4433. of enlightenment
  4434. and prosperity.
  4435.  
  4436. 933
  4437. 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:44,714
  4438. - Time to go, lady.
  4439. - Bunch of assholes.
  4440.  
  4441. 934
  4442. 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,108
  4443. Hey, watch your language
  4444. with the kids.
  4445.  
  4446. 935
  4447. 00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:51,329
  4448. Looking good.
  4449.  
  4450. 936
  4451. 00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,903
  4452. I was gonna say.
  4453.  
  4454. 937
  4455. 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,471
  4456. When people ask
  4457. what kind of child
  4458.  
  4459. 938
  4460. 00:47:02,645 --> 00:47:05,344
  4461. would want to be involved
  4462. in a club like this,
  4463.  
  4464. 939
  4465. 00:47:05,779 --> 00:47:08,390
  4466. the answer is,
  4467. I was that kind of child.
  4468.  
  4469. 940
  4470. 00:47:14,701 --> 00:47:18,226
  4471. Devil Worship.
  4472. Exposing Satan's Underground.
  4473.  
  4474. 941
  4475. 00:47:21,447 --> 00:47:24,058
  4476. Whether a Satan exists
  4477. is a matter of belief,
  4478.  
  4479. 942
  4480. 00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:26,365
  4481. but we are certain
  4482. that Satanism exists.
  4483.  
  4484. 943
  4485. 00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:28,149
  4486. To some it's a religion.
  4487.  
  4488. 944
  4489. 00:47:28,584 --> 00:47:32,066
  4490. To others it's the practice
  4491. of evil in the Devil's name.
  4492.  
  4493. 945
  4494. 00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:34,634
  4495. It exists,
  4496. and it's flourishing.
  4497.  
  4498. 946
  4499. 00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:37,627
  4500. You can't really
  4501. fully understand
  4502.  
  4503. 947
  4504. 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,465
  4505. the Satanic Temple
  4506. if you don't understand
  4507.  
  4508. 948
  4509. 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,729
  4510. the Satanic Panic
  4511. of the 1980s and '90s.
  4512.  
  4513. 949
  4514. 00:47:43,991 --> 00:47:49,083
  4515. The United States was caught up
  4516. by anti-Satanist hysterics.
  4517.  
  4518. 950
  4519. 00:47:49,388 --> 00:47:52,826
  4520. Baby killings,
  4521. ritualistic rape, cannibalism.
  4522.  
  4523. 951
  4524. 00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:55,481
  4525. I was a young child
  4526.  
  4527. 952
  4528. 00:47:56,177 --> 00:47:58,658
  4529. seeing these claims
  4530. about satanic cults,
  4531.  
  4532. 953
  4533. 00:47:58,832 --> 00:48:01,922
  4534. a criminal network,
  4535. abusing babies,
  4536.  
  4537. 954
  4538. 00:48:02,096 --> 00:48:03,881
  4539. and driving children
  4540. to Satanism.
  4541.  
  4542. 955
  4543. 00:48:05,186 --> 00:48:07,580
  4544. Unsuspecting young people
  4545. are drawn to the occult
  4546.  
  4547. 956
  4548. 00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:09,625
  4549. by seemingly
  4550. harmless pleasures.
  4551.  
  4552. 957
  4553. 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:13,325
  4554. They start by participating
  4555. in fantasy role-playing games
  4556.  
  4557. 958
  4558. 00:48:13,499 --> 00:48:15,893
  4559. like Dungeons & Dragons.
  4560.  
  4561. 959
  4562. 00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:19,418
  4563. Okay,
  4564. you enter a very small room,
  4565.  
  4566. 960
  4567. 00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:23,117
  4568. and there's a large black coffin
  4569. right in the center.
  4570.  
  4571. 961
  4572. 00:48:23,726 --> 00:48:24,989
  4573. The gates shut behind you.
  4574.  
  4575. 962
  4576. 00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:29,341
  4577. As a kid in the '80s,
  4578. I loved Dungeons & Dragons...
  4579.  
  4580. 963
  4581. 00:48:30,472 --> 00:48:33,301
  4582. and I played
  4583. Dungeons & Dragons constantly,
  4584.  
  4585. 964
  4586. 00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:38,959
  4587. and several of my friends'
  4588. mothers forbade them
  4589.  
  4590. 965
  4591. 00:48:39,612 --> 00:48:42,745
  4592. from hanging out with me.
  4593. That was, like...
  4594.  
  4595. 966
  4596. 00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:46,314
  4597. you know, my childhood brush
  4598. with the Satanic Panic.
  4599.  
  4600. 967
  4601. 00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:49,274
  4602. Millions enjoy D&D,
  4603. as the game is called,
  4604.  
  4605. 968
  4606. 00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,406
  4607. but we don't really know
  4608. how many find
  4609.  
  4610. 969
  4611. 00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:54,540
  4612. unsuspected dragons
  4613. in their psychic dungeons.
  4614.  
  4615. 970
  4616. 00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,499
  4617. How, then, do we deal
  4618. with our demons?
  4619.  
  4620. 971
  4621. 00:48:59,545 --> 00:49:01,329
  4622. And then I was
  4623. a young teenage metalhead.
  4624.  
  4625. 972
  4626. 00:49:06,073 --> 00:49:08,510
  4627. I loved heavy metal
  4628. and Dungeons & Dragons,
  4629.  
  4630. 973
  4631. 00:49:08,684 --> 00:49:10,773
  4632. which meant that there was,
  4633. like, a social campaign
  4634.  
  4635. 974
  4636. 00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,645
  4637. against everything I loved.
  4638.  
  4639. 975
  4640. 00:49:13,472 --> 00:49:15,300
  4641. If one or more
  4642. of these warning signs
  4643.  
  4644. 976
  4645. 00:49:15,517 --> 00:49:18,346
  4646. are evident, you should look further
  4647. for ritual items
  4648.  
  4649. 977
  4650. 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,349
  4651. such as a pentagram
  4652. or other satanic symbols.
  4653.  
  4654. 978
  4655. 00:49:21,741 --> 00:49:23,351
  4656. Experts advise you contact
  4657.  
  4658. 979
  4659. 00:49:23,525 --> 00:49:25,963
  4660. your local law enforcement
  4661. agency at once.
  4662.  
  4663. 980
  4664. 00:49:27,921 --> 00:49:29,444
  4665. The church
  4666. called it satanic,
  4667.  
  4668. 981
  4669. 00:49:29,749 --> 00:49:31,838
  4670. and, you know, I didn't mind
  4671. antagonizing them,
  4672.  
  4673. 982
  4674. 00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:33,796
  4675. so I just embraced
  4676. some of these symbols
  4677.  
  4678. 983
  4679. 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:36,277
  4680. and ideas, you know,
  4681. but what it really was,
  4682.  
  4683. 984
  4684. 00:49:36,451 --> 00:49:38,845
  4685. is, like, these were the things
  4686. that made my life great.
  4687.  
  4688. 985
  4689. 00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:42,327
  4690. D&D was awesome.
  4691. I'd play D&D all night,
  4692.  
  4693. 986
  4694. 00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:45,591
  4695. whole weekends, whole weeks
  4696. at a time sometimes,
  4697.  
  4698. 987
  4699. 00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:47,245
  4700. when I could, you know?
  4701.  
  4702. 988
  4703. 00:49:47,419 --> 00:49:48,942
  4704. And then, you know,
  4705. heavy metal shows
  4706.  
  4707. 989
  4708. 00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:51,466
  4709. is what my life
  4710. was built around in my teens.
  4711.  
  4712. 990
  4713. 00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:53,816
  4714. Chris Edmonds
  4715. is a Detroit disc jockey
  4716.  
  4717. 991
  4718. 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,645
  4719. whose specialty is finding
  4720. secret recorded messages
  4721.  
  4722. 992
  4723. 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:58,691
  4724. by playing music in reverse.
  4725.  
  4726. 993
  4727. 00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:02,042
  4728. A lot of people hear the phrase,
  4729. "My sweet Satan."
  4730.  
  4731. 994
  4732. 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:04,871
  4733. ♪ Here's to my sweet Satan ♪
  4734.  
  4735. 995
  4736. 00:50:05,045 --> 00:50:06,699
  4737. - You hear it?
  4738. - My sweet Satan.
  4739.  
  4740. 996
  4741. 00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:08,414
  4742. With Dungeons & Dragons
  4743.  
  4744. 997
  4745. 00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,485
  4746. and heavy metal music,
  4747.  
  4748. 998
  4749. 00:50:10,964 --> 00:50:13,575
  4750. parents were like,
  4751. "Well, those are the doorways
  4752.  
  4753. 999
  4754. 00:50:13,749 --> 00:50:16,709
  4755. to the Devil," and it's like...
  4756. In hindsight it's like,
  4757.  
  4758. 1000
  4759. 00:50:17,318 --> 00:50:19,233
  4760. "Yeah, maybe you're right."
  4761.  
  4762. 1001
  4763. 00:50:21,192 --> 00:50:24,325
  4764. You'll note on our model
  4765. the pentagram on the right
  4766.  
  4767. 1002
  4768. 00:50:24,499 --> 00:50:26,327
  4769. and the left side
  4770. of the upper chest.
  4771.  
  4772. 1003
  4773. 00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:29,809
  4774. Today people laugh
  4775. about the moral panic
  4776.  
  4777. 1004
  4778. 00:50:29,983 --> 00:50:32,551
  4779. surrounding things
  4780. like Dungeons & Dragons
  4781.  
  4782. 1005
  4783. 00:50:32,725 --> 00:50:36,729
  4784. or backwards masking in music,
  4785. but the fact of the matter is
  4786.  
  4787. 1006
  4788. 00:50:36,903 --> 00:50:39,558
  4789. the Satanic Panic
  4790. ruined people's lives.
  4791.  
  4792. 1007
  4793. 00:50:42,865 --> 00:50:44,258
  4794. - Pardon me?
  4795. - Do you worship Satan
  4796.  
  4797. 1008
  4798. 00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,086
  4799. - in any fashion?
  4800. - Not at all.
  4801.  
  4802. 1009
  4803. 00:50:46,739 --> 00:50:49,002
  4804. People who got accused
  4805. of satanic crimes
  4806.  
  4807. 1010
  4808. 00:50:49,568 --> 00:50:52,527
  4809. were not Satanists
  4810. and... and innocent.
  4811.  
  4812. 1011
  4813. 00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:55,661
  4814. The thing that I think
  4815. is really remarkable
  4816.  
  4817. 1012
  4818. 00:50:55,835 --> 00:50:57,445
  4819. and that everyone
  4820. has to pay attention to
  4821.  
  4822. 1013
  4823. 00:50:57,837 --> 00:51:00,927
  4824. is that the Satanic
  4825. Panic fantasies
  4826.  
  4827. 1014
  4828. 00:51:01,623 --> 00:51:04,496
  4829. were being indulged
  4830. by Christians.
  4831.  
  4832. 1015
  4833. 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:06,300
  4834. A Pennsylvania
  4835. grand jury report
  4836.  
  4837. 1016
  4838. 00:51:06,324 --> 00:51:07,324
  4839. released last month
  4840.  
  4841. 1017
  4842. 00:51:07,934 --> 00:51:09,718
  4843. found more than 300
  4844. Catholic priests
  4845.  
  4846. 1018
  4847. 00:51:09,892 --> 00:51:13,679
  4848. sexually abused more than
  4849. 1,000 children since 1947.
  4850.  
  4851. 1019
  4852. 00:51:13,853 --> 00:51:17,552
  4853. The Satanic Panic, we now
  4854. know in an entirely verified
  4855.  
  4856. 1020
  4857. 00:51:17,726 --> 00:51:20,729
  4858. and publicly known way,
  4859. was projection.
  4860.  
  4861. 1021
  4862. 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:24,037
  4863. They were doing it.
  4864.  
  4865. 1022
  4866. 00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:27,084
  4867. I was playing D&D.
  4868.  
  4869. 1023
  4870. 00:51:30,478 --> 00:51:34,178
  4871. I came to see
  4872. that these cults themselves
  4873.  
  4874. 1024
  4875. 00:51:34,352 --> 00:51:35,744
  4876. never actually existed,
  4877.  
  4878. 1025
  4879. 00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:38,617
  4880. that the real evil
  4881. was in the witch hunt itself.
  4882.  
  4883. 1026
  4884. 00:51:38,791 --> 00:51:40,314
  4885. I know
  4886. not if she be a witch.
  4887.  
  4888. 1027
  4889. 00:51:40,662 --> 00:51:43,143
  4890. No, no, no, no!
  4891. You have the wrong woman.
  4892.  
  4893. 1028
  4894. 00:51:43,317 --> 00:51:45,406
  4895. In just a few minutes' time
  4896. the trial
  4897.  
  4898. 1029
  4899. 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:48,453
  4900. of Bridget Bishop,
  4901. accused of witchcraft.
  4902.  
  4903. 1030
  4904. 00:51:57,897 --> 00:52:00,682
  4905. Unlike the Salem witch trials,
  4906.  
  4907. 1031
  4908. 00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:04,512
  4909. where there was some degree
  4910. of introspection afterwards,
  4911.  
  4912. 1032
  4913. 00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,606
  4914. there was even an apology
  4915. from one of the judges.
  4916.  
  4917. 1033
  4918. 00:52:06,732 --> 00:52:08,168
  4919. There was a general recognition
  4920.  
  4921. 1034
  4922. 00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:11,090
  4923. that something had gone wrong
  4924. and things needed to change...
  4925.  
  4926. 1035
  4927. 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,435
  4928. no such thing happened
  4929. with the Satanic Panic...
  4930.  
  4931. 1036
  4932. 00:52:15,523 --> 00:52:18,657
  4933. and so I feel like
  4934. this is very much our fight,
  4935.  
  4936. 1037
  4937. 00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:20,963
  4938. forwarding
  4939. what it actually means
  4940.  
  4941. 1038
  4942. 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,138
  4943. to be a Satanist,
  4944.  
  4945. 1039
  4946. 00:52:22,922 --> 00:52:25,881
  4947. and not allowing witch hunters
  4948. to define that for us.
  4949.  
  4950. 1040
  4951. 00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,058
  4952. In the coming months...
  4953.  
  4954. 1041
  4955. 00:52:48,774 --> 00:52:50,428
  4956. The Satanic Temple
  4957. of West Florida
  4958.  
  4959. 1042
  4960. 00:52:50,602 --> 00:52:52,473
  4961. is collecting socks.
  4962.  
  4963. 1043
  4964. 00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,433
  4965. To help bring dry socks
  4966. to local homeless people.
  4967.  
  4968. 1044
  4969. 00:52:55,607 --> 00:52:56,847
  4970. It doesn't matter
  4971. about the name
  4972.  
  4973. 1045
  4974. 00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,175
  4975. or where it's coming from,
  4976.  
  4977. 1046
  4978. 00:52:58,653 --> 00:53:00,655
  4979. as long as, you know,
  4980. they're doing what they can.
  4981.  
  4982. 1047
  4983. 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:09,055
  4984. Ah! We have donations.
  4985.  
  4986. 1048
  4987. 00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:11,927
  4988. Menstruatin' with Satan
  4989. is a charity campaign
  4990.  
  4991. 1049
  4992. 00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:16,584
  4993. that focuses on collecting
  4994. menstrual products, tampons,
  4995.  
  4996. 1050
  4997. 00:53:16,758 --> 00:53:21,067
  4998. pads, to distribute these
  4999. to local shelters in our area.
  5000.  
  5001. 1051
  5002. 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,859
  5003. The Seattle chapter
  5004. of the Satanic Temple
  5005.  
  5006. 1052
  5007. 00:53:31,033 --> 00:53:34,036
  5008. did a blood drive,
  5009. which was really, pretty fun.
  5010.  
  5011. 1053
  5012. 00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:37,364
  5013. For drivers
  5014. along the I-10
  5015.  
  5016. 1054
  5017. 00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:38,432
  5018. near Casa Grande,
  5019.  
  5020. 1055
  5021. 00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:40,173
  5022. the Satanic Temple
  5023. of Arizona
  5024.  
  5025. 1056
  5026. 00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,784
  5027. has now adopted
  5028. a two-mile stretch of roadway.
  5029.  
  5030. 1057
  5031. 00:53:42,958 --> 00:53:45,874
  5032. They even use
  5033. pitchforks to pick up trash.
  5034.  
  5035. 1058
  5036. 00:53:46,092 --> 00:53:47,833
  5037. Yes, pitchforks.
  5038.  
  5039. 1059
  5040. 00:53:48,094 --> 00:53:51,793
  5041. This is a group who just wants
  5042. people to know they exist,
  5043.  
  5044. 1060
  5045. 00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:55,144
  5046. they're friendly,
  5047. and they also hate litter.
  5048.  
  5049. 1061
  5050. 00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:58,844
  5051. As of yesterday, uh,
  5052. Seabright State Beach
  5053.  
  5054. 1062
  5055. 00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:00,324
  5056. was officially adopted
  5057.  
  5058. 1063
  5059. 00:54:00,802 --> 00:54:03,979
  5060. by the Santa Cruz chapter
  5061. of the Satanic Temple.
  5062.  
  5063. 1064
  5064. 00:54:04,153 --> 00:54:05,566
  5065. The Satanic Temple will serve
  5066.  
  5067. 1065
  5068. 00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:06,808
  5069. as the caretaker for it,
  5070.  
  5071. 1066
  5072. 00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:08,375
  5073. constantly helping
  5074. keep it clean
  5075.  
  5076. 1067
  5077. 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,549
  5078. for the next year.
  5079.  
  5080. 1068
  5081. 00:54:16,949 --> 00:54:18,951
  5082. In order to help manage
  5083. the expansive growth
  5084.  
  5085. 1069
  5086. 00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:20,779
  5087. that we were experiencing,
  5088.  
  5089. 1070
  5090. 00:54:20,953 --> 00:54:24,086
  5091. we decided to start
  5092. the National Council.
  5093.  
  5094. 1071
  5095. 00:54:24,261 --> 00:54:26,915
  5096. We've become pretty much
  5097. the de facto governing body
  5098.  
  5099. 1072
  5100. 00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,221
  5101. of TST.
  5102.  
  5103. 1073
  5104. 00:54:28,787 --> 00:54:30,310
  5105. We work directly
  5106. as a point of contact
  5107.  
  5108. 1074
  5109. 00:54:30,484 --> 00:54:32,225
  5110. with the chapter heads
  5111. of the chapter
  5112.  
  5113. 1075
  5114. 00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:35,141
  5115. to address any concerns,
  5116. to help them develop ideas,
  5117.  
  5118. 1076
  5119. 00:54:35,315 --> 00:54:37,032
  5120. and to make sure that they're
  5121. on the right track
  5122.  
  5123. 1077
  5124. 00:54:37,056 --> 00:54:39,493
  5125. in terms of what
  5126. the overall mission of TST is.
  5127.  
  5128. 1078
  5129. 00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:41,713
  5130. That's our overarching thing
  5131. to do
  5132.  
  5133. 1079
  5134. 00:54:41,887 --> 00:54:43,212
  5135. as...
  5136. as part of the National Council,
  5137.  
  5138. 1080
  5139. 00:54:43,236 --> 00:54:45,020
  5140. is to work with the chapters.
  5141.  
  5142. 1081
  5143. 00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:49,634
  5144. Yeah, Kym, do you think that
  5145. that's an... a reasonable pivot?
  5146.  
  5147. 1082
  5148. 00:54:49,808 --> 00:54:52,724
  5149. Like... God,
  5150. I'm using corporate buzzwords.
  5151.  
  5152. 1083
  5153. 00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:54,856
  5154. Um...
  5155.  
  5156. 1084
  5157. 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,989
  5158. We just want
  5159. to be conscientious.
  5160.  
  5161. 1085
  5162. 00:54:57,424 --> 00:54:58,967
  5163. We want to do as much good
  5164. as we possibly can.
  5165.  
  5166. 1086
  5167. 00:54:58,991 --> 00:55:00,079
  5168. - Mm-hmm.
  5169. - Cool.
  5170.  
  5171. 1087
  5172. 00:55:00,688 --> 00:55:02,275
  5173. I initially imagined
  5174. that the Satanic Temple
  5175.  
  5176. 1088
  5177. 00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:04,605
  5178. would have
  5179. no central authority,
  5180.  
  5181. 1089
  5182. 00:55:05,214 --> 00:55:09,175
  5183. but at this point
  5184. we're very keen to make sure
  5185.  
  5186. 1090
  5187. 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:12,221
  5188. chapters don't put out
  5189. the wrong message.
  5190.  
  5191. 1091
  5192. 00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:32,894
  5193. There is a prescribed
  5194. set of rules
  5195.  
  5196. 1092
  5197. 00:55:33,068 --> 00:55:34,983
  5198. about how you are supposed
  5199. to protest.
  5200.  
  5201. 1093
  5202. 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:36,724
  5203. You go to
  5204. your local politician.
  5205.  
  5206. 1094
  5207. 00:55:36,898 --> 00:55:38,900
  5208. You register
  5209. to hold a rally
  5210.  
  5211. 1095
  5212. 00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:41,033
  5213. that is approved
  5214. by the city council.
  5215.  
  5216. 1096
  5217. 00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:43,688
  5218. But I feel very strongly
  5219.  
  5220. 1097
  5221. 00:55:43,862 --> 00:55:48,170
  5222. that you can't dismantle
  5223. corrupt systems of power
  5224.  
  5225. 1098
  5226. 00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,998
  5227. while functioning within them.
  5228.  
  5229. 1099
  5230. 00:55:53,698 --> 00:55:55,308
  5231. We don't have money.
  5232. We don't have power.
  5233.  
  5234. 1100
  5235. 00:55:55,482 --> 00:55:57,310
  5236. We have
  5237. relatively little voice.
  5238.  
  5239. 1101
  5240. 00:55:57,919 --> 00:56:00,357
  5241. When we go and we do a political action,
  5242.  
  5243. 1102
  5244. 00:56:00,531 --> 00:56:02,141
  5245. it's more than just a protest.
  5246.  
  5247. 1103
  5248. 00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,970
  5249. To us it is the celebration
  5250. of our Satanic spirit.
  5251.  
  5252. 1104
  5253. 00:56:06,101 --> 00:56:08,190
  5254. It's a ritual in and of itself.
  5255.  
  5256. 1105
  5257. 00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:13,370
  5258. In much of our ritual practice we are taking
  5259.  
  5260. 1106
  5261. 00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,589
  5262. traditional symbols
  5263. of what we see
  5264.  
  5265. 1107
  5266. 00:56:15,763 --> 00:56:17,983
  5267. as an oppressive
  5268. religious institution
  5269.  
  5270. 1108
  5271. 00:56:18,157 --> 00:56:21,378
  5272. and destroying those symbols
  5273. as a form of empowerment.
  5274.  
  5275. 1109
  5276. 00:56:23,902 --> 00:56:25,382
  5277. We often use nudity
  5278.  
  5279. 1110
  5280. 00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:28,080
  5281. because there is a sense
  5282. of shame surrounding nudity
  5283.  
  5284. 1111
  5285. 00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,125
  5286. that still exists
  5287. and is pervasive today.
  5288.  
  5289. 1112
  5290. 00:56:31,649 --> 00:56:33,912
  5291. If I can,
  5292. I like to use bodies of men.
  5293.  
  5294. 1113
  5295. 00:56:34,129 --> 00:56:35,609
  5296. I'm very interested
  5297. in staying away
  5298.  
  5299. 1114
  5300. 00:56:36,001 --> 00:56:38,121
  5301. from the fetishization of
  5302. the beautiful female body.
  5303.  
  5304. 1115
  5305. 00:56:39,787 --> 00:56:42,007
  5306. We have used wine
  5307. in the past,
  5308.  
  5309. 1116
  5310. 00:56:42,181 --> 00:56:44,009
  5311. the idea of kind of,
  5312. like, choking on wine...
  5313.  
  5314. 1117
  5315. 00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:47,621
  5316. because the Church uses wine
  5317. as a metaphor for,
  5318.  
  5319. 1118
  5320. 00:56:47,795 --> 00:56:49,144
  5321. you know,
  5322. the blood of Christ,
  5323.  
  5324. 1119
  5325. 00:56:49,667 --> 00:56:52,191
  5326. but we see it as a form
  5327. of oppression and control.
  5328.  
  5329. 1120
  5330. 00:56:59,024 --> 00:57:01,635
  5331. Hail Mary, full of grace.
  5332. The lord is with thee.
  5333.  
  5334. 1121
  5335. 00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:04,769
  5336. Blessed art thou among women.
  5337.  
  5338. 1122
  5339. 00:57:06,814 --> 00:57:09,556
  5340. Holy Mary, mother of God,
  5341. pray for us sinners...
  5342.  
  5343. 1123
  5344. 00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:15,843
  5345. If there's anything
  5346. that anti-choice protesters
  5347.  
  5348. 1124
  5349. 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:17,782
  5350. have been good at,
  5351. it's the spectacle.
  5352.  
  5353. 1125
  5354. 00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,525
  5355. We wanted to create a context
  5356. where we can start to understand
  5357.  
  5358. 1126
  5359. 00:57:21,699 --> 00:57:23,503
  5360. that people who are protesting
  5361. outside of clinics
  5362.  
  5363. 1127
  5364. 00:57:23,527 --> 00:57:25,659
  5365. are doing something
  5366. that's somewhat perverse
  5367.  
  5368. 1128
  5369. 00:57:25,833 --> 00:57:26,833
  5370. and disturbing.
  5371.  
  5372. 1129
  5373. 00:57:27,487 --> 00:57:28,986
  5374. So anyways, that was where
  5375. our starting point was,
  5376.  
  5377. 1130
  5378. 00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:30,650
  5379. "How do we do this?
  5380. How do we match them?"
  5381.  
  5382. 1131
  5383. 00:57:30,751 --> 00:57:33,885
  5384. And then it was a lot
  5385. of brainstorming and spitballing
  5386.  
  5387. 1132
  5388. 00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:35,843
  5389. and conversation
  5390. until somebody made a joke
  5391.  
  5392. 1133
  5393. 00:57:36,017 --> 00:57:37,932
  5394. about how they fetishize
  5395. the fetus,
  5396.  
  5397. 1134
  5398. 00:57:38,106 --> 00:57:39,630
  5399. how it becomes this kind
  5400. of object
  5401.  
  5402. 1135
  5403. 00:57:39,847 --> 00:57:43,285
  5404. that is revered in a way
  5405. that seems somewhat unnatural,
  5406.  
  5407. 1136
  5408. 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,504
  5409. and, um,
  5410.  
  5411. 1137
  5412. 00:57:44,983 --> 00:57:47,899
  5413. you know, we landed
  5414. on fetish babies,
  5415.  
  5416. 1138
  5417. 00:57:48,073 --> 00:57:49,378
  5418. adult babies.
  5419.  
  5420. 1139
  5421. 00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:13,010
  5422. Uh, we're talking
  5423.  
  5424. 1140
  5425. 00:58:13,533 --> 00:58:14,902
  5426. about the abstraction
  5427. and fetishization
  5428.  
  5429. 1141
  5430. 00:58:14,926 --> 00:58:16,667
  5431. of the fetal image
  5432. as one that speaks
  5433.  
  5434. 1142
  5435. 00:58:16,841 --> 00:58:19,496
  5436. and diminishes
  5437. women's power and voice.
  5438.  
  5439. 1143
  5440. 00:58:21,323 --> 00:58:22,823
  5441. A lot of people
  5442. look at performance art
  5443.  
  5444. 1144
  5445. 00:58:22,847 --> 00:58:24,936
  5446. and are a little bit confused by it,
  5447.  
  5448. 1145
  5449. 00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,286
  5450. but that's exactly how we feel
  5451.  
  5452. 1146
  5453. 00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:29,220
  5454. when we see these people
  5455. in front of clinics.
  5456.  
  5457. 1147
  5458. 00:58:29,288 --> 00:58:30,507
  5459. Pray for us.
  5460.  
  5461. 1148
  5462. 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:41,605
  5463. What the heck just happened?
  5464. Why are they doing this?
  5465.  
  5466. 1149
  5467. 00:58:41,779 --> 00:58:43,302
  5468. - I have no idea.
  5469. - All right.
  5470.  
  5471. 1150
  5472. 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,367
  5473. They're worshiping...
  5474. they're worshiping Lucifer.
  5475.  
  5476. 1151
  5477. 00:58:45,391 --> 00:58:46,831
  5478. I mean, they're...
  5479. they're Satanists.
  5480.  
  5481. 1152
  5482. 00:58:49,874 --> 00:58:51,765
  5483. I don't know much
  5484. about Satanism. What is it?
  5485.  
  5486. 1153
  5487. 00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:53,181
  5488. Is it the worship of Satan?
  5489.  
  5490. 1154
  5491. 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,793
  5492. No, we're actually non-theistic,
  5493.  
  5494. 1155
  5495. 00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:57,838
  5496. and modern Satanism
  5497. has been recognized
  5498.  
  5499. 1156
  5500. 00:58:58,012 --> 00:58:59,840
  5501. as non-theistic
  5502. for some time now.
  5503.  
  5504. 1157
  5505. 00:59:00,624 --> 00:59:03,844
  5506. So the word Satanist has
  5507. nothing to do with Satan.
  5508.  
  5509. 1158
  5510. 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,586
  5511. Like,
  5512. if somebody wants to worship
  5513.  
  5514. 1159
  5515. 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,327
  5516. a pickle jar full of sand...
  5517.  
  5518. 1160
  5519. 00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:10,697
  5520. - What did you say?
  5521. - A pickle jar...
  5522.  
  5523. 1161
  5524. 00:59:10,721 --> 00:59:12,394
  5525. - A pickle jar full of sand?
  5526. - That's what it sounds like.
  5527.  
  5528. 1162
  5529. 00:59:12,418 --> 00:59:14,058
  5530. That's exactly what
  5531. it sounds like.
  5532.  
  5533. 1163
  5534. 00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:16,770
  5535. If you don't believe
  5536. in the Devil, why call yourself
  5537.  
  5538. 1164
  5539. 00:59:16,944 --> 00:59:18,816
  5540. - a Satanist?
  5541. - It's called Satanism
  5542.  
  5543. 1165
  5544. 00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:20,228
  5545. 'cause there's nothing else
  5546. to call it.
  5547.  
  5548. 1166
  5549. 00:59:20,252 --> 00:59:21,558
  5550. This wasn't pulled out of a hat.
  5551.  
  5552. 1167
  5553. 00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:23,951
  5554. This wasn't something
  5555. that was made up
  5556.  
  5557. 1168
  5558. 00:59:24,125 --> 00:59:25,165
  5559. just to screw with people.
  5560.  
  5561. 1169
  5562. 00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:27,215
  5563. This is a sociopolitical
  5564. counter-myth.
  5565.  
  5566. 1170
  5567. 00:59:27,433 --> 00:59:28,758
  5568. The reason I'm pressing you
  5569. on this
  5570.  
  5571. 1171
  5572. 00:59:28,782 --> 00:59:30,392
  5573. is... is because I sort of know
  5574.  
  5575. 1172
  5576. 00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:32,264
  5577. a fake media story
  5578. when I see one,
  5579.  
  5580. 1173
  5581. 00:59:32,438 --> 00:59:35,484
  5582. and the whole Satanism thing
  5583. seems like that.
  5584.  
  5585. 1174
  5586. 00:59:37,835 --> 00:59:40,272
  5587. Who calls me
  5588. from out of the pit?
  5589.  
  5590. 1175
  5591. 00:59:40,446 --> 00:59:42,666
  5592. The most important thing
  5593. about modern Satanism,
  5594.  
  5595. 1176
  5596. 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,450
  5597. in my opinion,
  5598. is that it has
  5599.  
  5600. 1177
  5601. 00:59:44,624 --> 00:59:46,713
  5602. a lot of symbolic impact
  5603. on a global level.
  5604.  
  5605. 1178
  5606. 00:59:46,887 --> 00:59:49,368
  5607. - Hail Satan!
  5608. - Hail Satan.
  5609.  
  5610. 1179
  5611. 00:59:49,934 --> 00:59:51,544
  5612. No!
  5613.  
  5614. 1180
  5615. 00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,198
  5616. I mean, everybody knows Satan.
  5617.  
  5618. 1181
  5619. 00:59:53,459 --> 00:59:56,462
  5620. He's as famous as Santa Claus
  5621. or the Grey aliens.
  5622.  
  5623. 1182
  5624. 00:59:56,636 --> 01:00:01,423
  5625. I am a part of you all.
  5626.  
  5627. 1183
  5628. 01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,687
  5629. In the literary concept
  5630. John Milton wrote
  5631.  
  5632. 1184
  5633. 01:00:03,861 --> 01:00:05,732
  5634. that Satan
  5635. was derived from heaven.
  5636.  
  5637. 1185
  5638. 01:00:05,906 --> 01:00:09,344
  5639. He was ousted for not stepping in line,
  5640. like the rest of us,
  5641.  
  5642. 1186
  5643. 01:00:09,518 --> 01:00:10,607
  5644. and now we fight back.
  5645.  
  5646. 1187
  5647. 01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:16,395
  5648. You're not wanted here.
  5649. You're not wanted here.
  5650.  
  5651. 1188
  5652. 01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,092
  5653. Out. Get out, Devils.
  5654.  
  5655. 1189
  5656. 01:00:18,571 --> 01:00:20,549
  5657. When I tell people that
  5658. I don't actually believe
  5659.  
  5660. 1190
  5661. 01:00:20,573 --> 01:00:21,574
  5662. in a literal Satan,
  5663.  
  5664. 1191
  5665. 01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:23,881
  5666. they're almost disappointed
  5667. and upset.
  5668.  
  5669. 1192
  5670. 01:00:24,185 --> 01:00:25,185
  5671. They don't like the idea
  5672.  
  5673. 1193
  5674. 01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:28,363
  5675. that we've taken
  5676. a religion's villain
  5677.  
  5678. 1194
  5679. 01:00:28,537 --> 01:00:31,889
  5680. and made him sort of
  5681. our champion for rebellion.
  5682.  
  5683. 1195
  5684. 01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:35,066
  5685. What it's preaching is evil.
  5686.  
  5687. 1196
  5688. 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,024
  5689. It's preaching
  5690. against Christianity.
  5691.  
  5692. 1197
  5693. 01:00:37,198 --> 01:00:38,373
  5694. It's anti-Christian.
  5695.  
  5696. 1198
  5697. 01:00:38,722 --> 01:00:39,897
  5698. To say that a Satanist
  5699.  
  5700. 1199
  5701. 01:00:40,288 --> 01:00:43,683
  5702. is anti-Christian is, again,
  5703. a half-truth.
  5704.  
  5705. 1200
  5706. 01:00:43,857 --> 01:00:45,903
  5707. They are anti-Christian
  5708. in the sense that
  5709.  
  5710. 1201
  5711. 01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:48,340
  5712. they are post-Christian.
  5713. They are...
  5714.  
  5715. 1202
  5716. 01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:50,647
  5717. They've actually left
  5718. Christianity.
  5719.  
  5720. 1203
  5721. 01:00:50,908 --> 01:00:52,387
  5722. They are
  5723. taking Satan with them.
  5724.  
  5725. 1204
  5726. 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,825
  5727. I like the story of,
  5728. like, Abraham,
  5729.  
  5730. 1205
  5731. 01:00:54,999 --> 01:00:56,914
  5732. who's gonna kill his son,
  5733. and Satan comes over.
  5734.  
  5735. 1206
  5736. 01:00:57,088 --> 01:00:59,133
  5737. He's like,
  5738. "Hey, don't do this."
  5739.  
  5740. 1207
  5741. 01:01:00,961 --> 01:01:02,330
  5742. And on one side
  5743. it's... Everyone goes,
  5744.  
  5745. 1208
  5746. 01:01:02,354 --> 01:01:04,008
  5747. "Well, that's him
  5748. tempting Abraham,"
  5749.  
  5750. 1209
  5751. 01:01:04,182 --> 01:01:06,302
  5752. and you go... On the other side,
  5753. it's him going, like,
  5754.  
  5755. 1210
  5756. 01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,099
  5757. "Hey, asshole,
  5758. don't kill your kid."
  5759.  
  5760. 1211
  5761. 01:01:08,534 --> 01:01:10,686
  5762. Satan didn't sit on his ass
  5763. and just watch that happen.
  5764.  
  5765. 1212
  5766. 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:11,972
  5767. He got up and did something.
  5768.  
  5769. 1213
  5770. 01:01:13,713 --> 01:01:16,455
  5771. Jesus walked into the desert
  5772. with no food, right?
  5773.  
  5774. 1214
  5775. 01:01:16,629 --> 01:01:18,762
  5776. Satan comes to him,
  5777. and he tempts him
  5778.  
  5779. 1215
  5780. 01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:21,982
  5781. with water and food.
  5782. He's starving in the desert.
  5783.  
  5784. 1216
  5785. 01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:24,376
  5786. Like,
  5787. "Hey, dude, don't do this.
  5788.  
  5789. 1217
  5790. 01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:26,073
  5791. Have some water.
  5792. Like, you're fine."
  5793.  
  5794. 1218
  5795. 01:01:26,247 --> 01:01:28,162
  5796. Shouldn't they just
  5797. call themselves atheists
  5798.  
  5799. 1219
  5800. 01:01:28,336 --> 01:01:30,556
  5801. if they don't believe
  5802. in anything supernatural,
  5803.  
  5804. 1220
  5805. 01:01:30,730 --> 01:01:32,036
  5806. a supernatural being?
  5807.  
  5808. 1221
  5809. 01:01:32,471 --> 01:01:35,779
  5810. Being an atheist is boring.
  5811. There's no community.
  5812.  
  5813. 1222
  5814. 01:01:36,301 --> 01:01:37,981
  5815. There's no iconography.
  5816. There's no history.
  5817.  
  5818. 1223
  5819. 01:01:38,129 --> 01:01:40,261
  5820. There's no code of conduct
  5821. or ethics.
  5822.  
  5823. 1224
  5824. 01:01:40,435 --> 01:01:41,435
  5825. There's no tenets.
  5826.  
  5827. 1225
  5828. 01:01:41,828 --> 01:01:43,917
  5829. It's just defining
  5830. what you're not.
  5831.  
  5832. 1226
  5833. 01:01:44,439 --> 01:01:48,487
  5834. And with modern Satanism,
  5835. you can define what you are.
  5836.  
  5837. 1227
  5838. 01:01:49,401 --> 01:01:51,446
  5839. I mean, we've defined Satanism
  5840.  
  5841. 1228
  5842. 01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:55,537
  5843. for the Satanic Temple
  5844. with our Seven Tenets.
  5845.  
  5846. 1229
  5847. 01:02:03,502 --> 01:02:05,504
  5848. One should strive
  5849. to act with compassion
  5850.  
  5851. 1230
  5852. 01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:07,288
  5853. and empathy
  5854. towards all creatures
  5855.  
  5856. 1231
  5857. 01:02:07,462 --> 01:02:08,768
  5858. in accordance with reason.
  5859.  
  5860. 1232
  5861. 01:02:12,946 --> 01:02:13,946
  5862. The struggle for justice
  5863.  
  5864. 1233
  5865. 01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:15,862
  5866. is an ongoing
  5867. and necessary pursuit
  5868.  
  5869. 1234
  5870. 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,735
  5871. that should prevail
  5872. over laws and institutions.
  5873.  
  5874. 1235
  5875. 01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:25,437
  5876. One's body is inviolable,
  5877. subject to one's own will alone.
  5878.  
  5879. 1236
  5880. 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,659
  5881. The freedom of others
  5882. should be respected,
  5883.  
  5884. 1237
  5885. 01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:33,184
  5886. including the freedom
  5887. to offend.
  5888.  
  5889. 1238
  5890. 01:02:34,141 --> 01:02:36,230
  5891. To willfully
  5892. and unjustly encroach
  5893.  
  5894. 1239
  5895. 01:02:36,404 --> 01:02:39,930
  5896. upon the freedoms of another
  5897. is to forgo your own.
  5898.  
  5899. 1240
  5900. 01:02:43,629 --> 01:02:44,869
  5901. This is my favorite one.
  5902.  
  5903. 1241
  5904. 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:46,850
  5905. Beliefs should conform
  5906.  
  5907. 1242
  5908. 01:02:47,502 --> 01:02:49,462
  5909. to our best scientific
  5910. understanding of the world.
  5911.  
  5912. 1243
  5913. 01:02:50,288 --> 01:02:51,376
  5914. We should take care
  5915.  
  5916. 1244
  5917. 01:02:51,811 --> 01:02:54,074
  5918. never to distort
  5919. scientific facts
  5920.  
  5921. 1245
  5922. 01:02:54,292 --> 01:02:55,641
  5923. to fit our beliefs.
  5924.  
  5925. 1246
  5926. 01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:00,951
  5927. People are fallible.
  5928. If we make a mistake,
  5929.  
  5930. 1247
  5931. 01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:02,779
  5932. we should do our best
  5933. to rectify it
  5934.  
  5935. 1248
  5936. 01:03:02,953 --> 01:03:05,999
  5937. and resolve any harm
  5938. that may have been caused.
  5939.  
  5940. 1249
  5941. 01:03:10,438 --> 01:03:12,136
  5942. Every tenet
  5943. is a guiding principle
  5944.  
  5945. 1250
  5946. 01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:15,139
  5947. designed to inspire nobility
  5948. in action and thought.
  5949.  
  5950. 1251
  5951. 01:03:16,401 --> 01:03:18,272
  5952. The spirit of compassion,
  5953. wisdom,
  5954.  
  5955. 1252
  5956. 01:03:18,446 --> 01:03:20,013
  5957. and justice
  5958. should always prevail
  5959.  
  5960. 1253
  5961. 01:03:20,187 --> 01:03:21,841
  5962. over the written
  5963. or spoken word.
  5964.  
  5965. 1254
  5966. 01:03:22,059 --> 01:03:25,932
  5967. - Hail Satan!
  5968. - Hail Satan!
  5969.  
  5970. 1255
  5971. 01:03:26,106 --> 01:03:27,194
  5972. I am very surprised
  5973.  
  5974. 1256
  5975. 01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:29,544
  5976. to find myself
  5977. part of an actual religion.
  5978.  
  5979. 1257
  5980. 01:03:31,372 --> 01:03:33,157
  5981. I wholeheartedly
  5982.  
  5983. 1258
  5984. 01:03:33,331 --> 01:03:35,507
  5985. agree with the Seven Tenets
  5986. of the Satanic Temple.
  5987.  
  5988. 1259
  5989. 01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:38,118
  5990. I believe they far outweigh
  5991. the Ten Commandments
  5992.  
  5993. 1260
  5994. 01:03:38,292 --> 01:03:40,729
  5995. in terms of morality
  5996.  
  5997. 1261
  5998. 01:03:40,904 --> 01:03:44,821
  5999. and, uh, best-case practices
  6000. to live your life,
  6001.  
  6002. 1262
  6003. 01:03:45,604 --> 01:03:47,214
  6004. and why can't that be
  6005. a religion?
  6006.  
  6007. 1263
  6008. 01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:49,782
  6009. Why can't me following
  6010. a code of ethics,
  6011.  
  6012. 1264
  6013. 01:03:50,565 --> 01:03:52,524
  6014. having fellowship
  6015. with brethren,
  6016.  
  6017. 1265
  6018. 01:03:52,959 --> 01:03:54,613
  6019. why... why can't that be
  6020. a religion?
  6021.  
  6022. 1266
  6023. 01:04:01,185 --> 01:04:02,505
  6024. - I'm recording.
  6025. - All right.
  6026.  
  6027. 1267
  6028. 01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:06,407
  6029. Well, I want to thank you
  6030. for tuning in to get an update
  6031.  
  6032. 1268
  6033. 01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,627
  6034. on the Arkansas
  6035. Ten Commandments monument.
  6036.  
  6037. 1269
  6038. 01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:11,086
  6039. In Little Rock,
  6040.  
  6041. 1270
  6042. 01:04:11,586 --> 01:04:13,129
  6043. while the Ten Commandments
  6044. continue to be watered
  6045.  
  6046. 1271
  6047. 01:04:13,153 --> 01:04:14,198
  6048. throughout the morning,
  6049.  
  6050. 1272
  6051. 01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:16,765
  6052. they stand tall
  6053. in their new home.
  6054.  
  6055. 1273
  6056. 01:04:17,201 --> 01:04:19,681
  6057. Take a look. This is exactly
  6058. where it sits right now.
  6059.  
  6060. 1274
  6061. 01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,335
  6062. It was installed
  6063. on the back side
  6064.  
  6065. 1275
  6066. 01:04:21,509 --> 01:04:22,989
  6067. of the Capitol Building
  6068. this morning.
  6069.  
  6070. 1276
  6071. 01:04:23,163 --> 01:04:25,209
  6072. And I want to say thank you
  6073. to everyone
  6074.  
  6075. 1277
  6076. 01:04:25,557 --> 01:04:27,951
  6077. who has contributed
  6078. to erect this monument.
  6079.  
  6080. 1278
  6081. 01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:30,955
  6082. This is absolutely
  6083. a declaration of faith,
  6084.  
  6085. 1279
  6086. 01:04:31,128 --> 01:04:34,131
  6087. and this monument will
  6088. almost certainly come down.
  6089.  
  6090. 1280
  6091. 01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:40,180
  6092. When our first Ten Commandments
  6093. came up, she had a short life.
  6094.  
  6095. 1281
  6096. 01:04:43,053 --> 01:04:46,578
  6097. She lasted about 24 hours
  6098. before a fervent believer
  6099.  
  6100. 1282
  6101. 01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,275
  6102. in the separation
  6103. of church and state
  6104.  
  6105. 1283
  6106. 01:04:48,449 --> 01:04:49,929
  6107. took her down with his car.
  6108.  
  6109. 1284
  6110. 01:04:50,843 --> 01:04:51,931
  6111. Freedom!
  6112.  
  6113. 1285
  6114. 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:58,720
  6115. I wake up, and I'm like,
  6116. "Oh, my God."
  6117.  
  6118. 1286
  6119. 01:04:58,895 --> 01:05:02,072
  6120. Get this. Police say around 4:45
  6121. in the morning local time
  6122.  
  6123. 1287
  6124. 01:05:02,246 --> 01:05:03,987
  6125. a 32-year-old man
  6126.  
  6127. 1288
  6128. 01:05:04,335 --> 01:05:07,338
  6129. rammed his vehicle
  6130. straight into that monument.
  6131.  
  6132. 1289
  6133. 01:05:08,513 --> 01:05:11,081
  6134. This man drove his vehicle
  6135. into the statue,
  6136.  
  6137. 1290
  6138. 01:05:11,255 --> 01:05:14,736
  6139. streamed it all on Facebook.
  6140. He's now facing charges.
  6141.  
  6142. 1291
  6143. 01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,311
  6144. I felt a huge pressure
  6145. come over me,
  6146.  
  6147. 1292
  6148. 01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:18,479
  6149. and I heard inside,
  6150. "Destroy it tonight."
  6151.  
  6152. 1293
  6153. 01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,153
  6154. He says
  6155. he's a Christian
  6156.  
  6157. 1294
  6158. 01:05:20,177 --> 01:05:21,457
  6159. who supports
  6160. the Ten Commandments
  6161.  
  6162. 1295
  6163. 01:05:22,135 --> 01:05:24,790
  6164. but not when they're replicated
  6165. on State Capitol grounds.
  6166.  
  6167. 1296
  6168. 01:05:26,661 --> 01:05:28,335
  6169. This was not a good thing
  6170. in my eyes
  6171.  
  6172. 1297
  6173. 01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,230
  6174. or in the Satanic Temple's eyes
  6175.  
  6176. 1298
  6177. 01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:32,537
  6178. because we wanted this
  6179. to come down the correct way
  6180.  
  6181. 1299
  6182. 01:05:32,711 --> 01:05:33,930
  6183. and not this way,
  6184.  
  6185. 1300
  6186. 01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:36,695
  6187. and of course, this did nothing
  6188. but help Rapert's cause.
  6189.  
  6190. 1301
  6191. 01:05:38,412 --> 01:05:41,850
  6192. We have to take a stand
  6193. for civility in this country.
  6194.  
  6195. 1302
  6196. 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:45,245
  6197. All of this radical talk
  6198. from the Satanic Temple
  6199.  
  6200. 1303
  6201. 01:05:45,593 --> 01:05:47,595
  6202. that would cause
  6203. unstable people to get out
  6204.  
  6205. 1304
  6206. 01:05:47,769 --> 01:05:51,034
  6207. and carry out these acts.
  6208. What culpability do they have?
  6209.  
  6210. 1305
  6211. 01:05:52,296 --> 01:05:53,514
  6212. Journalist:
  6213.  
  6214. 1306
  6215. 01:06:00,782 --> 01:06:02,306
  6216. I don't even know
  6217. how to quite respond
  6218.  
  6219. 1307
  6220. 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,524
  6221. to that question.
  6222.  
  6223. 1308
  6224. 01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:05,633
  6225. You see, you got to understand
  6226. the kind of people
  6227.  
  6228. 1309
  6229. 01:06:05,657 --> 01:06:06,788
  6230. you're dealing with here.
  6231.  
  6232. 1310
  6233. 01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:10,009
  6234. The man that claims to be
  6235. the head of the Satanic Temple,
  6236.  
  6237. 1311
  6238. 01:06:10,923 --> 01:06:14,231
  6239. this guy runs around the country
  6240. using the name Lucien Greaves.
  6241.  
  6242. 1312
  6243. 01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:17,277
  6244. It's not even his real name.
  6245.  
  6246. 1313
  6247. 01:06:17,495 --> 01:06:21,412
  6248. Fake names, fake arguments,
  6249. coming into Arkansas
  6250.  
  6251. 1314
  6252. 01:06:21,586 --> 01:06:23,370
  6253. to take advantage
  6254. of gullible people.
  6255.  
  6256. 1315
  6257. 01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:25,242
  6258. The leader of the
  6259. Satanic Temple,
  6260.  
  6261. 1316
  6262. 01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:27,287
  6263. he's using a fake name.
  6264.  
  6265. 1317
  6266. 01:06:27,461 --> 01:06:29,507
  6267. His name
  6268. is actually Doug Mesner.
  6269.  
  6270. 1318
  6271. 01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:32,901
  6272. My name
  6273. isn't Douglas Mesner either.
  6274.  
  6275. 1319
  6276. 01:06:33,424 --> 01:06:35,295
  6277. I have
  6278. double-layered pseudonyms.
  6279.  
  6280. 1320
  6281. 01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:41,171
  6282. The Ten Commandments
  6283. monument will be back up.
  6284.  
  6285. 1321
  6286. 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,608
  6287. The law will be fulfilled.
  6288.  
  6289. 1322
  6290. 01:06:53,487 --> 01:06:55,465
  6291. There are a lot of
  6292. Ten Commandments monuments
  6293.  
  6294. 1323
  6295. 01:06:55,489 --> 01:06:56,925
  6296. of the same exact sort
  6297.  
  6298. 1324
  6299. 01:06:57,187 --> 01:07:00,016
  6300. in many places
  6301. all over the United States
  6302.  
  6303. 1325
  6304. 01:07:00,190 --> 01:07:01,670
  6305. which were put up
  6306. around the same time
  6307.  
  6308. 1326
  6309. 01:07:01,713 --> 01:07:02,975
  6310. because they were distributed
  6311.  
  6312. 1327
  6313. 01:07:03,149 --> 01:07:04,977
  6314. by Paramount Pictures
  6315. in connection
  6316.  
  6317. 1328
  6318. 01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:06,544
  6319. with "The Ten Commandments"
  6320. movie.
  6321.  
  6322. 1329
  6323. 01:07:06,718 --> 01:07:08,720
  6324. Wait, what?
  6325. Paramount Pictures?
  6326.  
  6327. 1330
  6328. 01:07:08,894 --> 01:07:11,201
  6329. Yeah, the story
  6330. is that Cecil B. DeMille
  6331.  
  6332. 1331
  6333. 01:07:11,375 --> 01:07:13,377
  6334. was involved in making
  6335. these Ten Commandments
  6336.  
  6337. 1332
  6338. 01:07:13,551 --> 01:07:17,468
  6339. in connection with the film
  6340. and then donating them
  6341.  
  6342. 1333
  6343. 01:07:17,642 --> 01:07:19,296
  6344. to governments
  6345. around the country,
  6346.  
  6347. 1334
  6348. 01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:20,819
  6349. and that's the story.
  6350.  
  6351. 1335
  6352. 01:07:20,993 --> 01:07:22,255
  6353. To promote a movie?
  6354.  
  6355. 1336
  6356. 01:07:22,516 --> 01:07:24,196
  6357. It's connected to the promotion
  6358. of a movie.
  6359.  
  6360. 1337
  6361. 01:07:24,257 --> 01:07:26,433
  6362. That's crazy.
  6363.  
  6364. 1338
  6365. 01:07:27,913 --> 01:07:29,353
  6366. The Ten Commandments
  6367. monuments
  6368.  
  6369. 1339
  6370. 01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:31,569
  6371. are designed to look
  6372. like the stone tablets
  6373.  
  6374. 1340
  6375. 01:07:31,743 --> 01:07:33,503
  6376. that are carried down
  6377. by Heston in the movie.
  6378.  
  6379. 1341
  6380. 01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:35,572
  6381. The stars from the film,
  6382.  
  6383. 1342
  6384. 01:07:36,313 --> 01:07:37,681
  6385. they're spreading them
  6386. all across the country,
  6387.  
  6388. 1343
  6389. 01:07:37,705 --> 01:07:39,403
  6390. and it becomes
  6391. much more present
  6392.  
  6393. 1344
  6394. 01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:40,926
  6395. in the everyday life
  6396. of Americans
  6397.  
  6398. 1345
  6399. 01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,449
  6400. where it hadn't been before.
  6401.  
  6402. 1346
  6403. 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,626
  6404. The Ten Commandments
  6405. need no interpretation.
  6406.  
  6407. 1347
  6408. 01:07:45,844 --> 01:07:50,849
  6409. Like all good law...
  6410. they are simple and basic
  6411.  
  6412. 1348
  6413. 01:07:51,502 --> 01:07:52,502
  6414. and immutable.
  6415.  
  6416. 1349
  6417. 01:08:02,339 --> 01:08:03,688
  6418. Donations are pouring in
  6419.  
  6420. 1350
  6421. 01:08:03,905 --> 01:08:05,733
  6422. to replace the
  6423. Ten Commandments monument,
  6424.  
  6425. 1351
  6426. 01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:09,085
  6427. including the maker of a film
  6428. made at the State Capitol.
  6429.  
  6430. 1352
  6431. 01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:11,435
  6432. The people behind
  6433. "God's Not Dead"
  6434.  
  6435. 1353
  6436. 01:08:11,609 --> 01:08:14,090
  6437. pledged to donate
  6438. 25,000 dollars
  6439.  
  6440. 1354
  6441. 01:08:14,394 --> 01:08:15,961
  6442. to rebuild the monument.
  6443.  
  6444. 1355
  6445. 01:08:18,268 --> 01:08:22,010
  6446. Pure Flix is a Christian
  6447. film production company...
  6448.  
  6449. 1356
  6450. 01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:25,579
  6451. that made the flick
  6452. "God's Not Dead 2"
  6453.  
  6454. 1357
  6455. 01:08:25,753 --> 01:08:27,190
  6456. here at our State Capitol.
  6457.  
  6458. 1358
  6459. 01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:29,844
  6460. People seem to forget
  6461.  
  6462. 1359
  6463. 01:08:30,018 --> 01:08:32,238
  6464. that the most basic
  6465. human right of all
  6466.  
  6467. 1360
  6468. 01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,284
  6469. is the right to know Jesus.
  6470.  
  6471. 1361
  6472. 01:08:35,328 --> 01:08:37,113
  6473. Melissa Joan Hart was here.
  6474.  
  6475. 1362
  6476. 01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:40,377
  6477. I'm not gonna be afraid
  6478. to say the name Jesus.
  6479.  
  6480. 1363
  6481. 01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:45,164
  6482. This was a "real movie" here
  6483. in Little Rock, Arkansas...
  6484.  
  6485. 1364
  6486. 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:49,362
  6487. ...and so the conservative
  6488. Christian base in this town,
  6489.  
  6490. 1365
  6491. 01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:51,779
  6492. it was all about the fact
  6493. that they were helping
  6494.  
  6495. 1366
  6496. 01:08:51,953 --> 01:08:55,087
  6497. Senator Rapert
  6498. and his godly mission.
  6499.  
  6500. 1367
  6501. 01:08:55,696 --> 01:08:56,784
  6502. Most of our viewers
  6503.  
  6504. 1368
  6505. 01:08:57,089 --> 01:08:58,830
  6506. are born-again believers
  6507. or Christians,
  6508.  
  6509. 1369
  6510. 01:08:59,004 --> 01:09:02,399
  6511. and they applaud
  6512. the Ten Commandments monument
  6513.  
  6514. 1370
  6515. 01:09:02,573 --> 01:09:03,573
  6516. on the State Capitol.
  6517.  
  6518. 1371
  6519. 01:09:04,052 --> 01:09:06,664
  6520. It's a...
  6521. it's never happened before.
  6522.  
  6523. 1372
  6524. 01:09:06,838 --> 01:09:10,450
  6525. The... the church in America
  6526. has been silent for too long.
  6527.  
  6528. 1373
  6529. 01:09:10,624 --> 01:09:13,236
  6530. The Satanic Temple,
  6531. as much as they posture
  6532.  
  6533. 1374
  6534. 01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:15,847
  6535. and much as they holler
  6536. at the State of Arkansas,
  6537.  
  6538. 1375
  6539. 01:09:16,108 --> 01:09:18,632
  6540. they cannot force
  6541. a monument of Baphomet
  6542.  
  6543. 1376
  6544. 01:09:18,806 --> 01:09:20,156
  6545. on our Capitol grounds.
  6546.  
  6547. 1377
  6548. 01:09:22,462 --> 01:09:23,855
  6549. Nothing would make me happier
  6550.  
  6551. 1378
  6552. 01:09:24,029 --> 01:09:26,553
  6553. than to see Baphomet
  6554. on our Capitol grounds.
  6555.  
  6556. 1379
  6557. 01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:35,954
  6558. I would love to see Baphomet.
  6559.  
  6560. 1380
  6561. 01:09:37,651 --> 01:09:40,176
  6562. I would love to see
  6563. the Hindus, the Buddhists,
  6564.  
  6565. 1381
  6566. 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:42,656
  6567. everyone have their fair piece
  6568. of the lawn out there,
  6569.  
  6570. 1382
  6571. 01:09:42,830 --> 01:09:44,180
  6572. their piece of the grass.
  6573.  
  6574. 1383
  6575. 01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:51,012
  6576. When I look at Baphomet,
  6577. I see the voice of the marginalized,
  6578.  
  6579. 1384
  6580. 01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,190
  6581. the voices of the hated,
  6582. the voice of the misunderstood,
  6583.  
  6584. 1385
  6585. 01:09:55,191 --> 01:09:59,107
  6586. the voice of the folks
  6587. who don't agree mindlessly
  6588.  
  6589. 1386
  6590. 01:09:59,282 --> 01:10:01,284
  6591. with what the majority
  6592. is telling them.
  6593.  
  6594. 1387
  6595. 01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:03,764
  6596. You know,
  6597. I'm an ordained minister
  6598.  
  6599. 1388
  6600. 01:10:03,938 --> 01:10:05,462
  6601. before I got
  6602. into politics as well,
  6603.  
  6604. 1389
  6605. 01:10:05,636 --> 01:10:08,726
  6606. and I want to say on this,
  6607. what this nation needs
  6608.  
  6609. 1390
  6610. 01:10:08,900 --> 01:10:11,250
  6611. is an overflowing
  6612. of the anointing of God.
  6613.  
  6614. 1391
  6615. 01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:13,121
  6616. We will not live
  6617. by your commandments.
  6618.  
  6619. 1392
  6620. 01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:14,732
  6621. We're free!
  6622.  
  6623. 1393
  6624. 01:10:14,906 --> 01:10:18,039
  6625. Those who will not live
  6626. by the law...
  6627.  
  6628. 1394
  6629. 01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:22,653
  6630. ...shall die by the law!
  6631.  
  6632. 1395
  6633. 01:10:29,964 --> 01:10:31,662
  6634. I think
  6635. we can all come together
  6636.  
  6637. 1396
  6638. 01:10:31,836 --> 01:10:35,231
  6639. and have a reconciliation
  6640. and all coexist.
  6641.  
  6642. 1397
  6643. 01:10:39,147 --> 01:10:41,628
  6644. I would love
  6645. to see the Baphomet
  6646.  
  6647. 1398
  6648. 01:10:41,802 --> 01:10:43,717
  6649. standing next to a
  6650. Ten Commandments monument
  6651.  
  6652. 1399
  6653. 01:10:43,891 --> 01:10:46,459
  6654. to represent
  6655. religious pluralism,
  6656.  
  6657. 1400
  6658. 01:10:46,764 --> 01:10:50,550
  6659. one of the greatest features
  6660. of the American experiment.
  6661.  
  6662. 1401
  6663. 01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:53,814
  6664. It's... It's...
  6665.  
  6666. 1402
  6667. 01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:56,077
  6668. I... It's probably
  6669. never gonna happen.
  6670.  
  6671. 1403
  6672. 01:11:04,477 --> 01:11:08,394
  6673. I actually chose a couple spots
  6674. I thought would be nice for it,
  6675.  
  6676. 1404
  6677. 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,614
  6678. and they said,
  6679. "Well, how about this spot?"
  6680.  
  6681. 1405
  6682. 01:11:10,788 --> 01:11:12,572
  6683. they...
  6684. they kind of wanted me to take.
  6685.  
  6686. 1406
  6687. 01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:15,575
  6688. - So is that something...
  6689. - Most easily run into
  6690.  
  6691. 1407
  6692. 01:11:15,749 --> 01:11:18,186
  6693. by a truck from the road.
  6694.  
  6695. 1408
  6696. 01:11:28,588 --> 01:11:30,388
  6697. We're trying to do this
  6698. within the system
  6699.  
  6700. 1409
  6701. 01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,394
  6702. because that's the best way
  6703. to challenge the system
  6704.  
  6705. 1410
  6706. 01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:34,638
  6707. is to kind of use their laws
  6708.  
  6709. 1411
  6710. 01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:36,814
  6711. and the system
  6712. they've created against them.
  6713.  
  6714. 1412
  6715. 01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:40,644
  6716. Satanists sue Missouri.
  6717.  
  6718. 1413
  6719. 01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:42,820
  6720. Abortion rights
  6721. were the focus today
  6722.  
  6723. 1414
  6724. 01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:44,300
  6725. in the Missouri Supreme Court.
  6726.  
  6727. 1415
  6728. 01:11:44,474 --> 01:11:46,302
  6729. Current Missouri law
  6730. requires a woman
  6731.  
  6732. 1416
  6733. 01:11:46,476 --> 01:11:49,087
  6734. be given an informational
  6735. booklet on abortion.
  6736.  
  6737. 1417
  6738. 01:11:49,261 --> 01:11:52,656
  6739. Paperwork that said,
  6740. "Life starts at conception."
  6741.  
  6742. 1418
  6743. 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:54,614
  6744. Mary Doe is suing
  6745. Missouri Governor,
  6746.  
  6747. 1419
  6748. 01:11:54,788 --> 01:11:56,050
  6749. Eric Greitens.
  6750.  
  6751. 1420
  6752. 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:59,184
  6753. I think that if we're being sued
  6754. by the Satanic Temple,
  6755.  
  6756. 1421
  6757. 01:11:59,619 --> 01:12:01,186
  6758. we got to be doing
  6759. something right.
  6760.  
  6761. 1422
  6762. 01:12:01,534 --> 01:12:03,815
  6763. We're doing something right
  6764. here in the State of Missouri.
  6765.  
  6766. 1423
  6767. 01:12:05,103 --> 01:12:07,323
  6768. Thank you. Thank you.
  6769.  
  6770. 1424
  6771. 01:12:07,497 --> 01:12:09,107
  6772. This lawsuit
  6773. by the Satanic Temple
  6774.  
  6775. 1425
  6776. 01:12:09,368 --> 01:12:13,633
  6777. on behalf of one of its members
  6778. is like the Hobby Lobby case.
  6779.  
  6780. 1426
  6781. 01:12:14,286 --> 01:12:16,606
  6782. The evangelical Christian owners
  6783. of Hobby Lobby
  6784.  
  6785. 1427
  6786. 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,073
  6787. craft stores
  6788. challenged Obamacare
  6789.  
  6790. 1428
  6791. 01:12:19,247 --> 01:12:20,988
  6792. that requires
  6793. for-profit companies
  6794.  
  6795. 1429
  6796. 01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:23,513
  6797. to provide comprehensive
  6798. birth control coverage,
  6799.  
  6800. 1430
  6801. 01:12:23,687 --> 01:12:26,385
  6802. saying it violated
  6803. their religious beliefs.
  6804.  
  6805. 1431
  6806. 01:12:26,994 --> 01:12:28,842
  6807. Given the court's ruling
  6808. in favor of Hobby Lobby,
  6809.  
  6810. 1432
  6811. 01:12:28,866 --> 01:12:30,520
  6812. the Satanic Temple
  6813. has some sincerely-held
  6814.  
  6815. 1433
  6816. 01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,260
  6817. religious beliefs of its own.
  6818.  
  6819. 1434
  6820. 01:12:32,696 --> 01:12:35,022
  6821. The Satanists believe that, quote,
  6822. "The body is inviolable
  6823.  
  6824. 1435
  6825. 01:12:35,046 --> 01:12:37,048
  6826. subject to one's
  6827. own will alone."
  6828.  
  6829. 1436
  6830. 01:12:37,309 --> 01:12:39,109
  6831. And they say they strive
  6832. to make all decisions
  6833.  
  6834. 1437
  6835. 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:40,420
  6836. regarding personal health based
  6837.  
  6838. 1438
  6839. 01:12:41,008 --> 01:12:42,725
  6840. on the best scientific
  6841. understanding of the world.
  6842.  
  6843. 1439
  6844. 01:12:42,749 --> 01:12:44,466
  6845. It's brilliant, right?
  6846. Because one of the things
  6847.  
  6848. 1440
  6849. 01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:46,840
  6850. the Supreme Court said
  6851. in its Hobby Lobby decision
  6852.  
  6853. 1441
  6854. 01:12:47,014 --> 01:12:49,887
  6855. is we can't question
  6856. people's religious beliefs.
  6857.  
  6858. 1442
  6859. 01:12:50,061 --> 01:12:52,106
  6860. If they say it violates
  6861. their religious beliefs,
  6862.  
  6863. 1443
  6864. 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,196
  6865. so be it. She should be exempted
  6866. from that law.
  6867.  
  6868. 1444
  6869. 01:12:55,588 --> 01:12:57,468
  6870. We're ready to proceed
  6871. on the first case.
  6872.  
  6873. 1445
  6874. 01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:00,352
  6875. - Good morning.
  6876. - Morning.
  6877.  
  6878. 1446
  6879. 01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:01,616
  6880. May it please the court,
  6881.  
  6882. 1447
  6883. 01:13:02,290 --> 01:13:05,990
  6884. it's appalling that the state
  6885. of Missouri legislates into law
  6886.  
  6887. 1448
  6888. 01:13:06,512 --> 01:13:09,428
  6889. that a human life
  6890. comes into existence
  6891.  
  6892. 1449
  6893. 01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:11,909
  6894. at conception. And if you...
  6895.  
  6896. 1450
  6897. 01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:14,564
  6898. What creates the presumption
  6899. that the statute
  6900.  
  6901. 1451
  6902. 01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:16,653
  6903. that says
  6904. life begins at conception
  6905.  
  6906. 1452
  6907. 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:19,743
  6908. is solely based
  6909. on a religious tenet?
  6910.  
  6911. 1453
  6912. 01:13:20,221 --> 01:13:23,268
  6913. There is no scientific basis
  6914. for it.
  6915.  
  6916. 1454
  6917. 01:13:23,877 --> 01:13:26,358
  6918. It's just a proposition.
  6919.  
  6920. 1455
  6921. 01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:29,492
  6922. It's like saying,
  6923. "Jesus rose from the dead."
  6924.  
  6925. 1456
  6926. 01:13:29,709 --> 01:13:33,234
  6927. You can believe that,
  6928. but you'd be appalled
  6929.  
  6930. 1457
  6931. 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:37,500
  6932. if the Missouri legislature
  6933. legislated that into law.
  6934.  
  6935. 1458
  6936. 01:13:43,157 --> 01:13:45,769
  6937. The thing is I know we...
  6938. if we talk with our lawyer,
  6939.  
  6940. 1459
  6941. 01:13:45,943 --> 01:13:47,423
  6942. he's gonna say, like,
  6943. "No,
  6944.  
  6945. 1460
  6946. 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,338
  6947. people just don't understand
  6948. what this really means."
  6949.  
  6950. 1461
  6951. 01:13:51,688 --> 01:13:53,864
  6952. Lawsuits move so slow.
  6953.  
  6954. 1462
  6955. 01:13:54,908 --> 01:13:56,780
  6956. I mean, nothing's been resolved,
  6957. you know?
  6958.  
  6959. 1463
  6960. 01:13:56,954 --> 01:13:57,998
  6961. Nothing's happened,
  6962.  
  6963. 1464
  6964. 01:13:58,912 --> 01:14:02,263
  6965. and it's... it's... And yet
  6966. it's a pi... It's a massive...
  6967.  
  6968. 1465
  6969. 01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,004
  6970. it's a massive legal bill...
  6971.  
  6972. 1466
  6973. 01:14:05,092 --> 01:14:07,921
  6974. and there's really nothing
  6975. so far to show for it.
  6976.  
  6977. 1467
  6978. 01:14:12,099 --> 01:14:16,408
  6979. We're paying for it through...
  6980. just the regular donations
  6981.  
  6982. 1468
  6983. 01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:20,151
  6984. we receive and proceeds
  6985. from merchandise sales.
  6986.  
  6987. 1469
  6988. 01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,849
  6989. It broke the
  6990. 100,000 dollar mark
  6991.  
  6992. 1470
  6993. 01:14:23,023 --> 01:14:24,155
  6994. some time ago,
  6995.  
  6996. 1471
  6997. 01:14:24,677 --> 01:14:26,940
  6998. and I'm not sure how far
  6999. it's exceeded that by now.
  7000.  
  7001. 1472
  7002. 01:14:27,114 --> 01:14:30,117
  7003. I mean... it just hurts
  7004. my feelings to look at it.
  7005.  
  7006. 1473
  7007. 01:14:42,869 --> 01:14:44,958
  7008. There's no doubt that
  7009. this is my life's work...
  7010.  
  7011. 1474
  7012. 01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:49,572
  7013. and I don't want
  7014. the Satanic Temple
  7015.  
  7016. 1475
  7017. 01:14:49,746 --> 01:14:51,225
  7018. to be known for me,
  7019.  
  7020. 1476
  7021. 01:14:51,661 --> 01:14:54,707
  7022. but the success or failure
  7023. of the Satanic Temple
  7024.  
  7025. 1477
  7026. 01:14:54,881 --> 01:14:57,318
  7027. has always been,
  7028. uh, you know,
  7029.  
  7030. 1478
  7031. 01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:59,625
  7032. either my vindication
  7033. or failure.
  7034.  
  7035. 1479
  7036. 01:15:15,859 --> 01:15:17,861
  7037. As the
  7038. Satanic Temple developed,
  7039.  
  7040. 1480
  7041. 01:15:18,035 --> 01:15:19,906
  7042. we would hear less and less
  7043. from Jex.
  7044.  
  7045. 1481
  7046. 01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,870
  7047. And Detroit became
  7048. a bit of a mystery even to us,
  7049.  
  7050. 1482
  7051. 01:15:27,044 --> 01:15:30,177
  7052. um, in terms of what was
  7053. going on with the chapter...
  7054.  
  7055. 1483
  7056. 01:15:32,005 --> 01:15:33,137
  7057. which was under her control.
  7058.  
  7059. 1484
  7060. 01:15:34,486 --> 01:15:37,750
  7061. After centuries of biblical
  7062. patriarchal dominance,
  7063.  
  7064. 1485
  7065. 01:15:37,924 --> 01:15:40,361
  7066. the annihilation of native
  7067. and diverse cultures,
  7068.  
  7069. 1486
  7070. 01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,755
  7071. the propagation of racism
  7072. and homophobia,
  7073.  
  7074. 1487
  7075. 01:15:42,929 --> 01:15:45,366
  7076. we owe our oppressors!
  7077.  
  7078. 1488
  7079. 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,284
  7080. We owe them hostility,
  7081. inextinguishable justice,
  7082.  
  7083. 1489
  7084. 01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:53,244
  7085. and uncompromising destruction.
  7086.  
  7087. 1490
  7088. 01:15:54,724 --> 01:15:56,116
  7089. We outnumber them.
  7090.  
  7091. 1491
  7092. 01:15:56,682 --> 01:15:59,163
  7093. We possess the fortitude
  7094. to bring down powerful men
  7095.  
  7096. 1492
  7097. 01:15:59,337 --> 01:16:01,208
  7098. and dismantle racist systems.
  7099.  
  7100. 1493
  7101. 01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:03,950
  7102. Their existence
  7103. is only made possible
  7104.  
  7105. 1494
  7106. 01:16:04,124 --> 01:16:05,735
  7107. by our own inaction.
  7108.  
  7109. 1495
  7110. 01:16:06,866 --> 01:16:10,391
  7111. They have given us just enough
  7112. to have something to lose.
  7113.  
  7114. 1496
  7115. 01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:13,743
  7116. They have built a system
  7117. that grinds us down,
  7118.  
  7119. 1497
  7120. 01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:16,006
  7121. and they tell us
  7122. to swallow our grief
  7123.  
  7124. 1498
  7125. 01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:18,748
  7126. and our rage in the name
  7127. of respectability,
  7128.  
  7129. 1499
  7130. 01:16:18,922 --> 01:16:21,794
  7131. that obedience is patriotism.
  7132.  
  7133. 1500
  7134. 01:16:23,579 --> 01:16:26,103
  7135. There is no model
  7136. for moving forward.
  7137.  
  7138. 1501
  7139. 01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:27,713
  7140. We are the model.
  7141.  
  7142. 1502
  7143. 01:16:28,235 --> 01:16:31,978
  7144. Who taught you how to protest?
  7145. Who taught you how to get mad?
  7146.  
  7147. 1503
  7148. 01:16:32,413 --> 01:16:34,328
  7149. Who taught you how to speak up?
  7150.  
  7151. 1504
  7152. 01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:39,856
  7153. 'Cause we are going to disrupt,
  7154. distort, destroy,
  7155.  
  7156. 1505
  7157. 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,208
  7158. and reclaim, resist,
  7159. and rebuild!
  7160.  
  7161. 1506
  7162. 01:16:54,087 --> 01:16:56,524
  7163. - Hail Satan!
  7164. - Hail Satan!
  7165.  
  7166. 1507
  7167. 01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:59,179
  7168. - Hail Satan!
  7169. - Hail Satan!
  7170.  
  7171. 1508
  7172. 01:16:59,353 --> 01:17:02,095
  7173. - Hail Satan!
  7174. - Hail Satan!
  7175.  
  7176. 1509
  7177. 01:17:02,269 --> 01:17:09,102
  7178. Hail Satan!
  7179.  
  7180. 1510
  7181. 01:17:21,549 --> 01:17:24,901
  7182. How do I put this?
  7183. Hmm. Let me think.
  7184.  
  7185. 1511
  7186. 01:17:25,423 --> 01:17:29,122
  7187. She called for, um,
  7188. Donald Trump to be killed.
  7189.  
  7190. 1512
  7191. 01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:31,081
  7192. Um, that's obviously problematic
  7193.  
  7194. 1513
  7195. 01:17:31,385 --> 01:17:33,425
  7196. because we are a completely
  7197. nonviolent organization,
  7198.  
  7199. 1514
  7200. 01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:36,216
  7201. and that's completely
  7202. against our ethics.
  7203.  
  7204. 1515
  7205. 01:17:38,828 --> 01:17:41,308
  7206. It was glaringly obvious
  7207. that Jex,
  7208.  
  7209. 1516
  7210. 01:17:41,831 --> 01:17:43,659
  7211. being the wild card
  7212. that she is,
  7213.  
  7214. 1517
  7215. 01:17:43,833 --> 01:17:46,270
  7216. wasn't really gonna fit
  7217. in the organization anymore,
  7218.  
  7219. 1518
  7220. 01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:49,752
  7221. so Jex Blackmore is no longer
  7222. part of the Temple
  7223.  
  7224. 1519
  7225. 01:17:49,926 --> 01:17:50,926
  7226. at this point.
  7227.  
  7228. 1520
  7229. 01:17:54,626 --> 01:17:58,456
  7230. Um, I called her,
  7231. ultimately, but that was, uh,
  7232.  
  7233. 1521
  7234. 01:17:59,109 --> 01:18:01,720
  7235. that was a National Council
  7236. discussion. Uh...
  7237.  
  7238. 1522
  7239. 01:18:03,287 --> 01:18:05,028
  7240. she said what she said,
  7241.  
  7242. 1523
  7243. 01:18:05,245 --> 01:18:08,727
  7244. and we just couldn't have
  7245. a double standard for anybody.
  7246.  
  7247. 1524
  7248. 01:18:11,425 --> 01:18:13,340
  7249. I don't want to go off
  7250. on camera right here.
  7251.  
  7252. 1525
  7253. 01:18:13,514 --> 01:18:15,492
  7254. - I understand.
  7255. - About the injustice of that
  7256.  
  7257. 1526
  7258. 01:18:15,516 --> 01:18:18,476
  7259. in many different ways,
  7260. but yeah, it's been a lot.
  7261.  
  7262. 1527
  7263. 01:18:20,521 --> 01:18:23,481
  7264. I have to say
  7265. it does feel a little bit
  7266.  
  7267. 1528
  7268. 01:18:24,264 --> 01:18:26,919
  7269. satisfying to be...
  7270.  
  7271. 1529
  7272. 01:18:28,486 --> 01:18:30,009
  7273. you know,
  7274. fired from the Satanic Temple
  7275.  
  7276. 1530
  7277. 01:18:30,183 --> 01:18:31,358
  7278. for being too extreme.
  7279.  
  7280. 1531
  7281. 01:18:36,755 --> 01:18:38,714
  7282. There's a great fear
  7283. that we are going to do
  7284.  
  7285. 1532
  7286. 01:18:38,888 --> 01:18:40,280
  7287. something that is so offensive
  7288.  
  7289. 1533
  7290. 01:18:40,541 --> 01:18:42,718
  7291. that it's going to somehow
  7292. discredit our work.
  7293.  
  7294. 1534
  7295. 01:18:42,892 --> 01:18:44,763
  7296. I mean,
  7297. we're a Satanic organization.
  7298.  
  7299. 1535
  7300. 01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:49,942
  7301. There's, like, this...
  7302. this fear of our legal system
  7303.  
  7304. 1536
  7305. 01:18:50,116 --> 01:18:52,989
  7306. that is part of what
  7307. I'm fighting against,
  7308.  
  7309. 1537
  7310. 01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:55,100
  7311. and part of what I think
  7312. is important for us
  7313.  
  7314. 1538
  7315. 01:18:55,165 --> 01:18:56,514
  7316. to be liberated from.
  7317.  
  7318. 1539
  7319. 01:18:58,777 --> 01:18:59,822
  7320. I love Jex.
  7321.  
  7322. 1540
  7323. 01:19:00,431 --> 01:19:01,756
  7324. I worked with her
  7325. from the beginning,
  7326.  
  7327. 1541
  7328. 01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:03,608
  7329. and it's really quite sad,
  7330.  
  7331. 1542
  7332. 01:19:03,782 --> 01:19:08,526
  7333. but... you know, as we cohere
  7334. this organizational structure,
  7335.  
  7336. 1543
  7337. 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:13,400
  7338. we have to have a kind
  7339. of uniform set of rules.
  7340.  
  7341. 1544
  7342. 01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:17,274
  7343. We lose some things and we gain
  7344. some things from that, I guess.
  7345.  
  7346. 1545
  7347. 01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:20,146
  7348. One, two, three, four.
  7349.  
  7350. 1546
  7351. 01:19:28,938 --> 01:19:30,654
  7352. Like, the reality
  7353. is the Satanic Temple
  7354.  
  7355. 1547
  7356. 01:19:30,678 --> 01:19:32,898
  7357. has become formalized
  7358. in a way
  7359.  
  7360. 1548
  7361. 01:19:33,072 --> 01:19:35,248
  7362. that is a much more
  7363. traditional institution.
  7364.  
  7365. 1549
  7366. 01:19:37,381 --> 01:19:40,123
  7367. I fear that that special space
  7368.  
  7369. 1550
  7370. 01:19:40,297 --> 01:19:43,822
  7371. that was created for people... is gone.
  7372.  
  7373. 1551
  7374. 01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:11,284
  7375. Yeah, more or less.
  7376.  
  7377. 1552
  7378. 01:20:11,458 --> 01:20:13,417
  7379. I mean,
  7380. I assume they need to drill?
  7381.  
  7382. 1553
  7383. 01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:14,591
  7384. Yeah.
  7385.  
  7386. 1554
  7387. 01:20:19,684 --> 01:20:20,924
  7388. Hey, good morning, guys.
  7389.  
  7390. 1555
  7391. 01:20:21,251 --> 01:20:22,531
  7392. We are here
  7393. at the State Capitol.
  7394.  
  7395. 1556
  7396. 01:20:22,861 --> 01:20:24,602
  7397. In just a few hours
  7398. we are expected to see
  7399.  
  7400. 1557
  7401. 01:20:24,776 --> 01:20:26,778
  7402. the Ten Commandments
  7403. monument back up.
  7404.  
  7405. 1558
  7406. 01:20:37,615 --> 01:20:39,922
  7407. So Article Two, Section 24
  7408.  
  7409. 1559
  7410. 01:20:40,096 --> 01:20:41,662
  7411. of the Arkansas
  7412. State Constitution
  7413.  
  7414. 1560
  7415. 01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:45,405
  7416. says that there shall never be
  7417. any preference given by law
  7418.  
  7419. 1561
  7420. 01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:48,495
  7421. to an establishment
  7422. of religion, a denomination...
  7423.  
  7424. 1562
  7425. 01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:49,801
  7426. Your head's cut off.
  7427.  
  7428. 1563
  7429. 01:20:50,410 --> 01:20:51,498
  7430. - Okay.
  7431. - Yeah.
  7432.  
  7433. 1564
  7434. 01:20:52,543 --> 01:20:55,024
  7435. Anyways, the point is,
  7436. is when a senator tries
  7437.  
  7438. 1565
  7439. 01:20:55,198 --> 01:20:56,895
  7440. to take ownership
  7441. of your religion,
  7442.  
  7443. 1566
  7444. 01:20:57,069 --> 01:20:59,724
  7445. give it over to the government,
  7446. uh, that's a...
  7447.  
  7448. 1567
  7449. 01:21:01,247 --> 01:21:02,901
  7450. Any Christian
  7451. should be offended.
  7452.  
  7453. 1568
  7454. 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,128
  7455. Yeah, yeah.
  7456.  
  7457. 1569
  7458. 01:21:20,353 --> 01:21:22,573
  7459. - Hello?
  7460. - Hey, it's Stu.
  7461.  
  7462. 1570
  7463. 01:21:32,757 --> 01:21:33,757
  7464. I did. I saw it.
  7465.  
  7466. 1571
  7467. 01:21:33,932 --> 01:21:35,194
  7468. Wake up, America.
  7469.  
  7470. 1572
  7471. 01:21:35,455 --> 01:21:38,415
  7472. Wake up, church.
  7473. Wake up, Christians.
  7474.  
  7475. 1573
  7476. 01:21:39,546 --> 01:21:41,505
  7477. It's about time
  7478. in the United States of America,
  7479.  
  7480. 1574
  7481. 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:42,679
  7482. as a Christian nation,
  7483.  
  7484. 1575
  7485. 01:21:43,202 --> 01:21:44,527
  7486. we get back to upholding
  7487. what we believe in.
  7488.  
  7489. 1576
  7490. 01:21:44,551 --> 01:21:45,591
  7491. - Amen!
  7492. - Amen!
  7493.  
  7494. 1577
  7495. 01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:48,991
  7496. This is a Christian nation.
  7497.  
  7498. 1578
  7499. 01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:51,795
  7500. I can't see
  7501. how they could possibly
  7502.  
  7503. 1579
  7504. 01:21:51,819 --> 01:21:52,820
  7505. get around this stuff.
  7506.  
  7507. 1580
  7508. 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:54,865
  7509. This is a violation,
  7510.  
  7511. 1581
  7512. 01:21:55,301 --> 01:21:56,781
  7513. and they just
  7514. completely ignored it.
  7515.  
  7516. 1582
  7517. 01:21:57,216 --> 01:22:00,176
  7518. You know, once the thing
  7519. is going, we'll file.
  7520.  
  7521. 1583
  7522. 01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:02,700
  7523. I...
  7524. I'm just really hard-pressed
  7525.  
  7526. 1584
  7527. 01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:05,529
  7528. to come up with a way in which
  7529. we could lose this case.
  7530.  
  7531. 1585
  7532. 01:22:14,277 --> 01:22:16,061
  7533. We want to put up monuments
  7534. in every state,
  7535.  
  7536. 1586
  7537. 01:22:16,235 --> 01:22:17,933
  7538. every county, every city
  7539. and every town
  7540.  
  7541. 1587
  7542. 01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:19,587
  7543. and every organization
  7544. that wants one,
  7545.  
  7546. 1588
  7547. 01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:20,805
  7548. we're gonna help you do that.
  7549.  
  7550. 1589
  7551. 01:22:24,896 --> 01:22:27,029
  7552. Why are there Ten
  7553. Commandments monuments bills
  7554.  
  7555. 1590
  7556. 01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:28,856
  7557. simultaneously
  7558. in multiple states?
  7559.  
  7560. 1591
  7561. 01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:31,772
  7562. Why are there abortion
  7563. restriction bills,
  7564.  
  7565. 1592
  7566. 01:22:31,947 --> 01:22:35,733
  7567. anti-LGBT bills simultaneously
  7568. across different states?
  7569.  
  7570. 1593
  7571. 01:22:36,081 --> 01:22:37,865
  7572. Clearly there
  7573. is a concerted effort,
  7574.  
  7575. 1594
  7576. 01:22:38,301 --> 01:22:39,621
  7577. and that
  7578. is not religious liberty.
  7579.  
  7580. 1595
  7581. 01:22:39,693 --> 01:22:40,956
  7582. That's Christian supremacy.
  7583.  
  7584. 1596
  7585. 01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:44,698
  7586. ♪ I put a spell on you ♪
  7587.  
  7588. 1597
  7589. 01:22:45,134 --> 01:22:48,615
  7590. ♪ Because you're mine ♪
  7591.  
  7592. 1598
  7593. 01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:52,793
  7594. ♪ I can't stand
  7595. The things that you do ♪
  7596.  
  7597. 1599
  7598. 01:22:53,055 --> 01:22:57,450
  7599. ♪ No, no, no
  7600. No, I ain't lyin' ♪
  7601.  
  7602. 1600
  7603. 01:22:58,234 --> 01:23:02,716
  7604. No, I don't care
  7605. If you don't want me... ♪
  7606.  
  7607. 1601
  7608. 01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,198
  7609. I mean,
  7610. we have to push this back
  7611.  
  7612. 1602
  7613. 01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:08,292
  7614. because what they're
  7615. looking for is, essentially,
  7616.  
  7617. 1603
  7618. 01:23:08,331 --> 01:23:10,681
  7619. some kind of Christian Sharia law,
  7620. their version of it...
  7621.  
  7622. 1604
  7623. 01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:15,555
  7624. where legislation
  7625. and their view of morals
  7626.  
  7627. 1605
  7628. 01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:17,166
  7629. is implemented by a church
  7630.  
  7631. 1606
  7632. 01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:18,689
  7633. that a lot of us
  7634. aren't a part of,
  7635.  
  7636. 1607
  7637. 01:23:19,168 --> 01:23:20,821
  7638. and we just
  7639. can't let that happen.
  7640.  
  7641. 1608
  7642. 01:23:26,088 --> 01:23:29,743
  7643. ♪ I love you, I love you
  7644. Yah yah gow ♪
  7645.  
  7646. 1609
  7647. 01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:47,239
  7648. ♪ I put a spell on you ♪
  7649.  
  7650. 1610
  7651. 01:23:47,413 --> 01:23:50,460
  7652. ♪ Lord, lord, lord ♪
  7653.  
  7654. 1611
  7655. 01:23:50,721 --> 01:23:54,333
  7656. ♪ 'Cause you're mine
  7657. Yeah ♪
  7658.  
  7659. 1612
  7660. 01:23:54,507 --> 01:23:56,988
  7661. ♪ I can't stand the things
  7662. That you do ♪
  7663.  
  7664. 1613
  7665. 01:23:57,162 --> 01:24:00,948
  7666. ♪ When you're foolin' around ♪
  7667.  
  7668. 1614
  7669. 01:24:01,688 --> 01:24:05,301
  7670. ♪ I don't care
  7671. If you don't want me ♪
  7672.  
  7673. 1615
  7674. 01:24:05,475 --> 01:24:08,565
  7675. ♪ 'Cause I'm yours
  7676. Yours, yours ♪
  7677.  
  7678. 1616
  7679. 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,004
  7680. ♪ Anyhow, yeah ♪
  7681.  
  7682. 1617
  7683. 01:24:13,178 --> 01:24:17,226
  7684. ♪ Yeah yeah yeah ♪
  7685.  
  7686. 1618
  7687. 01:24:23,928 --> 01:24:25,016
  7688. One, two, three.
  7689.  
  7690. 1619
  7691. 01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,413
  7692. The Satanic Temple
  7693. will hold a rally
  7694.  
  7695. 1620
  7696. 01:24:54,437 --> 01:24:55,655
  7697. at the Arkansas
  7698. State Capitol
  7699.  
  7700. 1621
  7701. 01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,701
  7702. Thursday, August 16th.
  7703.  
  7704. 1622
  7705. 01:24:58,571 --> 01:24:59,833
  7706. The centerpiece of the rally
  7707.  
  7708. 1623
  7709. 01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:02,619
  7710. will be a Satanic statue
  7711. of Baphomet.
  7712.  
  7713. 1624
  7714. 01:25:03,663 --> 01:25:05,685
  7715. The Satanic Temple
  7716. says the organization
  7717.  
  7718. 1625
  7719. 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:07,319
  7720. is being discriminated against
  7721.  
  7722. 1626
  7723. 01:25:07,493 --> 01:25:09,191
  7724. because the state
  7725. will not install
  7726.  
  7727. 1627
  7728. 01:25:09,365 --> 01:25:12,107
  7729. a Satanic monument
  7730. on the Capitol grounds.
  7731.  
  7732. 1628
  7733. 01:25:22,726 --> 01:25:26,033
  7734. I'm Shiva. I'm the Director
  7735. of National Events for TST,
  7736.  
  7737. 1629
  7738. 01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:28,645
  7739. and I thought we could start
  7740. by going around the room.
  7741.  
  7742. 1630
  7743. 01:25:29,036 --> 01:25:30,396
  7744. I'm from right here
  7745. in Little Rock,
  7746.  
  7747. 1631
  7748. 01:25:30,429 --> 01:25:31,996
  7749. and I am tickled pink
  7750. that all of you
  7751.  
  7752. 1632
  7753. 01:25:32,170 --> 01:25:34,912
  7754. are here in our fair city.
  7755. Tomorrow's gonna be fun.
  7756.  
  7757. 1633
  7758. 01:25:35,695 --> 01:25:38,742
  7759. I'm from El Paso, Texas.
  7760. I'm with Frontera Satanica.
  7761.  
  7762. 1634
  7763. 01:25:39,046 --> 01:25:41,048
  7764. I'm one of the cofounders
  7765. of Satanic Arkansas,
  7766.  
  7767. 1635
  7768. 01:25:41,223 --> 01:25:43,877
  7769. and we are super stoked
  7770. that you guys are here.
  7771.  
  7772. 1636
  7773. 01:25:44,051 --> 01:25:46,315
  7774. I'm Lanzifer Longinus.
  7775.  
  7776. 1637
  7777. 01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:49,535
  7778. I'm... I'm head
  7779. of the San Marcos chapter.
  7780.  
  7781. 1638
  7782. 01:25:49,927 --> 01:25:51,767
  7783. I was the head
  7784. of the San Antonio chapter,
  7785.  
  7786. 1639
  7787. 01:25:51,929 --> 01:25:53,844
  7788. and, um, the Devil's work
  7789. is never done.
  7790.  
  7791. 1640
  7792. 01:25:54,105 --> 01:25:57,500
  7793. I'm Jeremy, Skullcrusher
  7794. if we're using pseudonyms.
  7795.  
  7796. 1641
  7797. 01:25:57,674 --> 01:25:59,502
  7798. And I am the Monster
  7799. from Atlanta.
  7800.  
  7801. 1642
  7802. 01:25:59,676 --> 01:26:01,591
  7803. And, uh,
  7804.  
  7805. 1643
  7806. 01:26:01,808 --> 01:26:03,245
  7807. I'm just here
  7808. to support something
  7809.  
  7810. 1644
  7811. 01:26:03,419 --> 01:26:04,681
  7812. that's very important to me.
  7813.  
  7814. 1645
  7815. 01:26:05,595 --> 01:26:06,995
  7816. Glad to be here.
  7817. Fuckin' hail Satan.
  7818.  
  7819. 1646
  7820. 01:26:23,265 --> 01:26:24,527
  7821. Are you excited?
  7822.  
  7823. 1647
  7824. 01:26:28,705 --> 01:26:29,706
  7825. No.
  7826.  
  7827. 1648
  7828. 01:26:43,241 --> 01:26:44,521
  7829. They're gonna have, I guess
  7830.  
  7831. 1649
  7832. 01:26:44,764 --> 01:26:47,289
  7833. a nine-foot-tall statue
  7834. of Satan.
  7835.  
  7836. 1650
  7837. 01:26:48,681 --> 01:26:52,294
  7838. Well, we came here today
  7839. in order to negate that.
  7840.  
  7841. 1651
  7842. 01:26:53,817 --> 01:26:54,817
  7843. Honk the horn.
  7844.  
  7845. 1652
  7846. 01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,777
  7847. God bless you.
  7848.  
  7849. 1653
  7850. 01:27:03,174 --> 01:27:04,567
  7851. Their platform
  7852. is separation
  7853.  
  7854. 1654
  7855. 01:27:04,741 --> 01:27:05,872
  7856. of church and state,
  7857.  
  7858. 1655
  7859. 01:27:06,308 --> 01:27:09,311
  7860. which makes it sound
  7861. really nice, so yeah.
  7862.  
  7863. 1656
  7864. 01:27:09,485 --> 01:27:12,270
  7865. They just want to irritate,
  7866. if you want to know the truth.
  7867.  
  7868. 1657
  7869. 01:27:18,668 --> 01:27:19,843
  7870. We're a Christian country,
  7871.  
  7872. 1658
  7873. 01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,628
  7874. and so they don't have
  7875. the right to alter that.
  7876.  
  7877. 1659
  7878. 01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:24,987
  7879. They don't have a right
  7880. to put their monstrosity
  7881.  
  7882. 1660
  7883. 01:27:25,065 --> 01:27:26,066
  7884. on the State Capitol.
  7885.  
  7886. 1661
  7887. 01:27:26,458 --> 01:27:28,025
  7888. But do we
  7889. really wanna believe
  7890.  
  7891. 1662
  7892. 01:27:28,286 --> 01:27:30,462
  7893. there's no consequence
  7894. but God?
  7895.  
  7896. 1663
  7897. 01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:33,683
  7898. There is this individual
  7899. that has,
  7900.  
  7901. 1664
  7902. 01:27:33,857 --> 01:27:35,772
  7903. like, a previous conviction
  7904. for planning,
  7905.  
  7906. 1665
  7907. 01:27:36,294 --> 01:27:38,035
  7908. - you know, mass shootings...
  7909. - Hmm.
  7910.  
  7911. 1666
  7912. 01:27:38,514 --> 01:27:40,864
  7913. ...and our anonymous sources
  7914.  
  7915. 1667
  7916. 01:27:41,038 --> 01:27:42,624
  7917. have said that he will
  7918. definitely be there,
  7919.  
  7920. 1668
  7921. 01:27:42,648 --> 01:27:43,954
  7922. and that is a concern.
  7923.  
  7924. 1669
  7925. 01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,920
  7926. And what happens
  7927. if you see somebody
  7928.  
  7929. 1670
  7930. 01:27:46,043 --> 01:27:47,740
  7931. that I don't see
  7932. pulling some shit?
  7933.  
  7934. 1671
  7935. 01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:49,568
  7936. So we've got
  7937. the outer team,
  7938.  
  7939. 1672
  7940. 01:27:49,742 --> 01:27:51,962
  7941. which I think at this point
  7942. is gonna be six people,
  7943.  
  7944. 1673
  7945. 01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:54,921
  7946. so they should see
  7947. something first.
  7948.  
  7949. 1674
  7950. 01:27:55,095 --> 01:27:58,011
  7951. Somebody's gonna have to really
  7952. get through two layers
  7953.  
  7954. 1675
  7955. 01:27:58,185 --> 01:28:01,188
  7956. of people to get to you.
  7957. That makes it very implausible.
  7958.  
  7959. 1676
  7960. 01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:04,148
  7961. Well, I don't think
  7962. anybody else around here
  7963.  
  7964. 1677
  7965. 01:28:04,322 --> 01:28:05,541
  7966. is really considered a target,
  7967.  
  7968. 1678
  7969. 01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:07,978
  7970. so I think that's really all
  7971. we're worried about.
  7972.  
  7973. 1679
  7974. 01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:27,214
  7975. This is the infancy
  7976. of the Satanic Temple.
  7977.  
  7978. 1680
  7979. 01:28:28,128 --> 01:28:31,175
  7980. In our own humble little way,
  7981. we are changing the world.
  7982.  
  7983. 1681
  7984. 01:28:33,308 --> 01:28:35,266
  7985. More and more as time goes on,
  7986.  
  7987. 1682
  7988. 01:28:36,006 --> 01:28:39,749
  7989. people are seeing that we are
  7990. a genuine movement.
  7991.  
  7992. 1683
  7993. 01:28:41,577 --> 01:28:43,883
  7994. This would be very difficult
  7995. to maintain
  7996.  
  7997. 1684
  7998. 01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:47,800
  7999. if somewhere
  8000. in any of our minds,
  8001.  
  8002. 1685
  8003. 01:28:47,974 --> 01:28:50,020
  8004. those of us who are actively
  8005. working on this,
  8006.  
  8007. 1686
  8008. 01:28:50,194 --> 01:28:51,500
  8009. we didn't truly believe
  8010.  
  8011. 1687
  8012. 01:28:51,848 --> 01:28:53,850
  8013. in every element
  8014. of what we're doing...
  8015.  
  8016. 1688
  8017. 01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:57,941
  8018. and to be doing this
  8019. as anything other
  8020.  
  8021. 1689
  8022. 01:28:58,637 --> 01:29:01,945
  8023. than an authentic expression
  8024. of who we are...
  8025.  
  8026. 1690
  8027. 01:29:02,859 --> 01:29:07,994
  8028. I just can't see doing that
  8029. without being psychotic,
  8030.  
  8031. 1691
  8032. 01:29:08,168 --> 01:29:12,347
  8033. which I guess...
  8034. is... is a theory.
  8035.  
  8036. 1692
  8037. 01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:19,354
  8038. It is out of not only Satanism
  8039. but patriotism
  8040.  
  8041. 1693
  8042. 01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:22,487
  8043. that I am motivated
  8044. to come to protest events,
  8045.  
  8046. 1694
  8047. 01:29:23,183 --> 01:29:25,838
  8048. to have the pilgrimage,
  8049. to visibly be a part
  8050.  
  8051. 1695
  8052. 01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:27,884
  8053. of a declaration
  8054. of those beliefs.
  8055.  
  8056. 1696
  8057. 01:29:29,799 --> 01:29:32,410
  8058. That's an ancient
  8059. human religious tradition.
  8060.  
  8061. 1697
  8062. 01:29:32,584 --> 01:29:33,803
  8063. I mean,
  8064. that's the pilgrimage.
  8065.  
  8066. 1698
  8067. 01:29:35,544 --> 01:29:37,304
  8068. I think it's a sense
  8069. of duty to do this.
  8070.  
  8071. 1699
  8072. 01:29:37,415 --> 01:29:39,809
  8073. I don't even feel like
  8074. it's optional at this point.
  8075.  
  8076. 1700
  8077. 01:29:40,897 --> 01:29:43,334
  8078. You know,
  8079. you see Christian theocracy
  8080.  
  8081. 1701
  8082. 01:29:43,508 --> 01:29:47,164
  8083. just, you know, creeping itself
  8084. into our government, you know,
  8085.  
  8086. 1702
  8087. 01:29:47,338 --> 01:29:51,037
  8088. and they're not gonna stop.
  8089. They're just gonna continue,
  8090.  
  8091. 1703
  8092. 01:29:51,429 --> 01:29:54,171
  8093. and it is our duty
  8094. as the adversary
  8095.  
  8096. 1704
  8097. 01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:55,651
  8098. to stand up to this.
  8099.  
  8100. 1705
  8101. 01:29:58,828 --> 01:30:00,438
  8102. I could just go along
  8103. and just be a quiet
  8104.  
  8105. 1706
  8106. 01:30:00,612 --> 01:30:03,267
  8107. little secular individual,
  8108. like a lot of people do.
  8109.  
  8110. 1707
  8111. 01:30:03,615 --> 01:30:05,158
  8112. I... I don't want to say
  8113. the phrase, like,
  8114.  
  8115. 1708
  8116. 01:30:05,182 --> 01:30:06,836
  8117. "this has given
  8118. my life purpose,"
  8119.  
  8120. 1709
  8121. 01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:09,752
  8122. but I would say
  8123. that this makes life fun.
  8124.  
  8125. 1710
  8126. 01:30:12,407 --> 01:30:16,715
  8127. Radical Satanism
  8128. has its claws...
  8129.  
  8130. 1711
  8131. 01:30:16,889 --> 01:30:18,529
  8132. ...in the hearts of people
  8133. across America,
  8134.  
  8135. 1712
  8136. 01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:19,870
  8137. and I think that's... that's...
  8138.  
  8139. 1713
  8140. 01:30:19,979 --> 01:30:22,155
  8141. that's something
  8142. to pay attention to.
  8143.  
  8144. 1714
  8145. 01:30:43,873 --> 01:30:46,005
  8146. ♪ Hallelujah ♪
  8147.  
  8148. 1715
  8149. 01:30:46,353 --> 01:30:48,355
  8150. ♪ Hallelujah ♪
  8151.  
  8152. 1716
  8153. 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:50,793
  8154. ♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah ♪
  8155.  
  8156. 1717
  8157. 01:30:51,054 --> 01:30:53,622
  8158. ♪ Hallelujah ♪
  8159.  
  8160. 1718
  8161. 01:30:54,013 --> 01:30:56,015
  8162. ♪ Hallelujah... ♪
  8163.  
  8164. 1719
  8165. 01:30:56,407 --> 01:30:57,647
  8166. Good people of Arkansas
  8167.  
  8168. 1720
  8169. 01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,497
  8170. and supporters
  8171. of religious liberty,
  8172.  
  8173. 1721
  8174. 01:31:00,063 --> 01:31:04,459
  8175. I present to you Baphomet.
  8176.  
  8177. 1722
  8178. 01:31:04,633 --> 01:31:07,897
  8179. Holy Mary, mother of God,
  8180. pray for us sinners,
  8181.  
  8182. 1723
  8183. 01:31:08,071 --> 01:31:10,552
  8184. now and in the hour
  8185. of our death, amen.
  8186.  
  8187. 1724
  8188. 01:31:10,726 --> 01:31:14,251
  8189. Holy Mary, mother of God,
  8190. pray for us sinners.
  8191.  
  8192. 1725
  8193. 01:31:15,905 --> 01:31:17,341
  8194. Baphomet
  8195. on the same grounds
  8196.  
  8197. 1726
  8198. 01:31:17,515 --> 01:31:18,515
  8199. as the Ten Commandments
  8200.  
  8201. 1727
  8202. 01:31:19,169 --> 01:31:21,650
  8203. does not represent the conflict
  8204. but a resolution.
  8205.  
  8206. 1728
  8207. 01:31:23,826 --> 01:31:26,437
  8208. If Christianity
  8209. abandons liberal democracy,
  8210.  
  8211. 1729
  8212. 01:31:26,611 --> 01:31:29,048
  8213. it will have forfeited
  8214. the future to Satan.
  8215.  
  8216. 1730
  8217. 01:31:30,093 --> 01:31:34,401
  8218. - To which I say, hail Satan.
  8219. - Hail Satan!
  8220.  
  8221. 1731
  8222. 01:31:54,639 --> 01:31:58,948
  8223. ♪ Satan never sleeps ♪
  8224.  
  8225. 1732
  8226. 01:32:00,166 --> 01:32:02,429
  8227. ♪ He walks behind you ♪
  8228.  
  8229. 1733
  8230. 01:32:02,604 --> 01:32:04,301
  8231. ♪ Through the night ♪
  8232.  
  8233. 1734
  8234. 01:32:04,649 --> 01:32:11,569
  8235. ♪ And through the day ♪
  8236.  
  8237. 1735
  8238. 01:32:12,614 --> 01:32:14,833
  8239. ♪ Silently he creeps ♪
  8240.  
  8241. 1736
  8242. 01:32:16,835 --> 01:32:18,707
  8243. ♪ He's always there ♪
  8244.  
  8245. 1737
  8246. 01:32:18,968 --> 01:32:21,274
  8247. ♪ To put temptation ♪
  8248.  
  8249. 1738
  8250. 01:32:21,927 --> 01:32:24,582
  8251. ♪ In your way ♪
  8252.  
  8253. 1739
  8254. 01:32:25,409 --> 01:32:26,453
  8255. ♪ So ♪
  8256.  
  8257. 1740
  8258. 01:32:27,237 --> 01:32:29,239
  8259. ♪♪ If you're ♪♪
  8260.  
  8261. 1741
  8262. 01:32:29,718 --> 01:32:31,894
  8263. ♪ Burning with desire ♪
  8264.  
  8265. 1742
  8266. 01:32:33,722 --> 01:32:40,032
  8267. ♪ He'll find
  8268. A way to fan the fire ♪
  8269.  
  8270. 1743
  8271. 01:32:42,252 --> 01:32:49,215
  8272. ♪ Then in the embers
  8273. Of the flame ♪
  8274.  
  8275. 1744
  8276. 01:32:49,912 --> 01:32:56,788
  8277. ♪ You'll have
  8278. Your foolish heart to blame ♪
  8279.  
  8280. 1745
  8281. 01:32:58,485 --> 01:33:01,488
  8282. ♪ Oh, oh ♪
  8283.  
  8284. 1746
  8285. 01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:04,448
  8286. ♪ Satan has a plan ♪
  8287.  
  8288. 1747
  8289. 01:33:07,190 --> 01:33:09,540
  8290. ♪ He's out to capture you ♪
  8291.  
  8292. 1748
  8293. 01:33:10,019 --> 01:33:15,633
  8294. ♪ In any way he can ♪
  8295.  
  8296. 1749
  8297. 01:33:18,723 --> 01:33:22,466
  8298. ♪ Ever since the world began ♪
  8299.  
  8300. 1750
  8301. 01:33:24,207 --> 01:33:26,601
  8302. ♪ He's tried to come between ♪
  8303.  
  8304. 1751
  8305. 01:33:27,166 --> 01:33:32,084
  8306. ♪ A woman and a man ♪
  8307.  
  8308. 1752
  8309. 01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:37,176
  8310. ♪ And so no matter ♪
  8311.  
  8312. 1753
  8313. 01:33:37,481 --> 01:33:39,701
  8314. ♪ If you're great or small ♪
  8315.  
  8316. 1754
  8317. 01:33:40,136 --> 01:33:45,010
  8318. ♪ He knows there's evil
  8319. In us all ♪
  8320.  
  8321. 1755
  8322. 01:33:45,358 --> 01:33:47,839
  8323. ♪ And that is why ♪
  8324.  
  8325. 1756
  8326. 01:33:49,711 --> 01:33:53,236
  8327. ♪ Satan never ♪
  8328.  
  8329. 1757
  8330. 01:33:53,410 --> 01:33:58,328
  8331. ♪ Sleeps ♪
  8332.  
  8333. 1758
  8334. 01:34:01,331 --> 01:34:02,419
  8335. And I do want to clarify,
  8336.  
  8337. 1759
  8338. 01:34:02,941 --> 01:34:04,701
  8339. we actually had just somebody
  8340. two seconds ago
  8341.  
  8342. 1760
  8343. 01:34:04,769 --> 01:34:08,425
  8344. drive past asking us where
  8345. this Satanic Temple statue is.
  8346.  
  8347. 1761
  8348. 01:34:08,730 --> 01:34:10,993
  8349. Just to clarify, that was here
  8350. just for the rally
  8351.  
  8352. 1762
  8353. 01:34:11,167 --> 01:34:13,299
  8354. and was taken away
  8355. when that rally was over.
  8356.  
  8357. 1763
  8358. 01:34:13,473 --> 01:34:15,780
  8359. Now, currently
  8360. there is a lawsuit pending
  8361.  
  8362. 1764
  8363. 01:34:15,954 --> 01:34:17,303
  8364. in federal court,
  8365.  
  8366. 1765
  8367. 01:34:17,782 --> 01:34:20,263
  8368. the Satanic Temple claiming
  8369. religious discrimination,
  8370.  
  8371. 1766
  8372. 01:34:20,698 --> 01:34:21,873
  8373. while the state responding,
  8374.  
  8375. 1767
  8376. 01:34:22,134 --> 01:34:24,920
  8377. calling the Satanic Temple
  8378. a satire group.
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