Official Secrets (2019)

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<i> "Katharine Teresa Gun,</i>

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<i>"you are charged with an offence</i>

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<i>"contrary to Section 1,
Subsection 1</i>

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<i>"of the Official Secrets Act
of 1989</i>

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"and that you did knowingly
and intentionally

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"disclose top secret
intelligence information

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"contrary to the said act."

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How do you plead?

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Guilty or not guilty?

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What?

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The neighbors will hear.

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Let's move over.

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Better?

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Better.

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<i> And what about
the situation
of persuading the people?</i>

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<i>Because it's very,
to put it mildly</i>

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<i>uncomfortable to go to war
with 73% against.</i>

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<i>If people are being asked
today do you support a war,</i>

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<i>my answer to that
is we're not at war today.</i>

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<i>I think especially,
obviously, if the UN pass</i>

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<i>the second resolution,
as I believe they will</i>

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<i>if the inspectors carry on
saying he's not cooperating,</i>

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<i>I think public opinion
is in a different place.</i>

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<i>When your correspondent
was saying</i>

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the war is inevitable,
war is not inevitable.

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It depends on Saddam.

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If he cooperates
with the inspectors,

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if he says
how much material he's got,

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if he cooperates fully
with them,

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<i>then the issue's over.</i>

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<i>But he's not doing that
at the moment.</i>

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Bloody liar.

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They're all bloody liars.

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You know, actually,
I don't think they are.

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I don't think the weapons
inspectors are lying.

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<i>This and international terrorism</i>

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<i>are the two
big security threats.</i>

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Want coffee?

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No, thanks.

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<i> We were told,
we were given to understand</i>

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that what these inspectors
were gonna come up with was

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evidence of weapons
of mass destruction,

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chemical,
biological and nuclear.

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What we know is that
he has this material.

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Oh, my God,
we don't know that.
We don't know that.

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I mean, he just keeps
repeating the lie.

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You sure it's a lie?
Saddam's a psychopath.

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Yeah, well, just because
you're the Prime Minister,

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it doesn't mean you get
to make up your own facts.

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<i>Do you think you have
the goods on him now?</i>

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<i>I've got no doubt at all that
he's developing these weapons</i>

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<i>and that he poses a threat.</i>

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Be at the cafe by 4:00.

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I can fetch you at 5:00.

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No, no, no. I was gonna
get the bus. I love you.

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Love you.

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Yes.

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You know he has a place
in Devon.

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He wants to
take me surfing
with his dog.

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Is that a bad thing?

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No, it's a great dog.

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Okay.

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When was the last time
you got away?

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Oh, don't know,
three or four weeks ago.

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We went hiking in Yorkshire.

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Oh. Shall we all
go hiking together?

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Yeah, that would
be lovely. With the dog?

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Mmm.

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Oh!

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Oh, thank you.

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I'm starving.

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I've been here
since 5:00,

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listening to
a Russian embassy staffer

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trying to bribe
a North Korean defector

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who's been downloading
some kinky shit.

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Very arousing few hours.

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You're disgusting.

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It's for
the Queen and country.

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MI6 thought the Korean
was one of ours.

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I just proved he's not.

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GCHQ, 1. MI6, 0.

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Katharine.

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I need your Beijing report
for the Foreign Office.

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They start trade talks
next week.

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Yeah, on it.

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<i>"As you've likely heard by now</i>

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<i>"the Agency is mounting a surge</i>

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<i>"particularly directed at the
UN Security Council members</i>

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<i>"minus US and Great Britain,
of course</i>

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<i>"for insights as to how
membership is reacting</i>

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<i>"to the ongoing debate RE Iraq.</i>

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<i>"That means
a QRC surge effort to revive,</i>

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<i>"create efforts against
UN Security Council members,</i>

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<i>"Angola, Cameroon,</i>

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<i>"Chile, Bulgaria and Guinea."</i>

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Andy.

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Did you get this NSA e-mail?

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Are the Yanks
really asking us
to dig up personal shit

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on UN Security Council
delegates?

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"They want
the whole gamut of info

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"that could give
US policy makers an edge

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"in obtaining results
favorable to US goals."

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Christ, they wanna fix the vote.

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"This effort will probably
peak in the middle
of next week

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"following the Secretary
of State's presentation

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"to the UN Security Council."

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Powell's gonna argue for war.

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And they're gonna
blackmail
the smaller nations

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to make sure
they get it. Fuck.

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Excuse me.
Question.

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Yeah.

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Uh, this NSA memo,
our people approved it?

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Yes, that's why
it's been forwarded.

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The Americans want us
to help them get
a UN resolution for war?

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By next week?

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It's a joint UK/USA operation.

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UKUSA. Right.
Got it.

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Hey,
ours not to reason why.

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Everything good today,
Mrs. Archer?

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Yes, thank you.
Very good.
Very, very good.

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I'll see you again
tomorrow, yes?

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Yes.

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Thank you, dear.

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Hey.

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Hey.

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You okay?

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Yeah, it's been a long day.

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I need ten minutes.
Want something to eat?

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No.

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You working this weekend?

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Could we go somewhere,
get out of town?

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Sorry,<i> janum,</i>
I'll get next weekend
for sure.

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<i> A question
for the President if I may.</i>

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<i>What is the status,
in your view,
of any second resolution?</i>

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<i>Is it something
that you think is worth</i>

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<i>spending time and energy
trying to assemble?</i>

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<i>Just let me reiterate
what I just said.</i>

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<i>This is a matter of weeks,
not months.</i>

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<i>Any attempt to drag
the process on for months</i>

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<i>will be resisted
by the United States.</i>

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Can we watch something else?

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No, no, this is important.

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<i>Secretary Powell
will make a strong case</i>

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<i>about the danger
of an armed Saddam Hussein</i>

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<i>and he will also talk
about Al-Qaeda links.</i>

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Come on, there are
no credible links

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between Saddam and Al-Qaeda.

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<i>...really do portend
a danger...</i>

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I'll turn it off.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Please, I need to watch this.

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I need to know
what they're saying.

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I mean, yes.
Yes, Saddam
is a dictator,

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but he is not a religious nut.

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I mean, why would
he risk arming Al-Qaeda

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and have them
turn against him?
It doesn't make any sense!

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Fine, but yelling at the TV

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isn't going to make
any difference.

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They can't bloody hear you.

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Where you going?

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To read a book.

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<i>You see, my vision
shifted dramatically</i>

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<i>after September 11.</i>

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<i>I realized
the world has changed.</i>

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<i>My most important obligation
is to protect</i>

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<i>the American people
from further harm.</i>

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<i>And I will do that.</i>

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<i>Thank you all very much.</i>

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Love you.

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Love you.

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Don't forget
to check in
at the station.

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What are you gonna do?

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- I don't know.
- Read a book.

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I'll be back
by 7:00 latest.

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Mr. Gun. Signing in?

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Yes, thank you.

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When will you know
if you can stay?

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They don't say.

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Could be weeks.
Could be months.

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You never know
with immigration,
do you?

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I know.

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Thank you.

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Hi, Jasmine, it's Kath.

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Uh, are you around today?

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<i>I'd love to come and see you.</i>

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Kath.

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Hi.

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Oh, come here.

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Hello.

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Targeting who?

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The UN Security Council.

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Particularly
the non-permanent members

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who could swing the vote
in favor of war.

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Jesus.

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Maybe it's time to quit.

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You know, they say
if you stay at GCHQ

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for more than five years,
you never leave.

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I've still got two to go then.

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So you've still
got a conscience.

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Are you still organizing
against the war?

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Does GCHQ have a problem
with that?

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What? No.

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Give me your phone.

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I've already
taken the battery out.

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I called you from a payphone.

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Sorry.

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Go on.

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I just thought...

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...if I could get you
a copy of the memo,

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then maybe you could get
somebody to look it over.

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I don't know, a journalist,

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someone
in the anti-war movement.

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Look, if the press think
it's nothing, fine.

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At least my conscience is clear.

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Your conscience?

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Kat, you're asking me
to collude in a breach

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of the Official Secrets Act.
Some call that treason.

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I am not trying to overthrow
my government.

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I just think if someone
in the press saw it,

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they might ask more questions
about what the Americans

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are asking this country to do.

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Hey, Kat,
they're sending me
and Dan to London

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to learn Farsi.

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Wow, Farsi. Congrats.

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How many languages now?

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Eight.

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She's a freakin' super spy.

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Andy, where's
my Pyongyang report?

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Ah, one more hour.

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Yeah, just get it done.

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When do you leave?

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Two weeks.

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You'll have to come visit me.

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Is that
the Foreign Office report?

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Uh, it's a rough draft.

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Well, finish it.

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Defense section
needs extra hands.

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I said I'd send you
over there this afternoon.

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Okay, will do.

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<i>What we're giving you
our facts and conclusions</i>

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<i>based on solid intelligence.</i>

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<i>The issue before us
is not how much time</i>

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<i>we are willing to give
the inspectors,</i>

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<i>but how much longer
are we willing to put up</i>

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<i>with Iraq's non-compliance
before we as a council,</i>

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<i>we as United Nations say enough.</i>

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<i>Enough.</i>

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<i>We have first-hand descriptions</i>

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<i>of biological weapons
factories on wheels
and on rails.</i>

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<i>The trucks and train cars
are easily moved</i>

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<i>and are designed to evade
detection by inspectors.</i>

252
00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:36,167
<i>Although Iraq's
mobile production program</i>

253
00:15:36,168 --> 00:15:38,168
<i>began in mid-1990s,</i>

254
00:15:38,169 --> 00:15:42,072
<i>UN inspectors at the time
only had vague hints</i>

255
00:15:42,073 --> 00:15:43,907
<i>of such programs.</i>

256
00:15:43,908 --> 00:15:47,177
<i>Confirmation came later
in the year 2000.</i>

257
00:15:47,178 --> 00:15:49,846
<i>The source was an eyewitness.</i>

258
00:15:49,847 --> 00:15:51,315
<i>An Iraqi chemical engineer</i>

259
00:15:51,316 --> 00:15:53,584
<i>who supervised
one of these facilities.</i>

260
00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:54,585
Hi.

261
00:15:55,553 --> 00:15:56,556
Hi.

262
00:15:57,556 --> 00:16:00,524
I'm gonna watch some football.
Do you mind?

263
00:16:00,525 --> 00:16:01,525
No. Go for it.

264
00:16:54,446 --> 00:16:58,249
<i> From the north,
the south,
the east and the west,</i>

265
00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,151
<i>from the left, the right</i>

266
00:17:00,152 --> 00:17:02,452
<i>from the radical
to the uncommitted</i>

267
00:17:02,453 --> 00:17:03,754
<i>they came.</i>

268
00:17:05,423 --> 00:17:07,791
<i>Well, we can argue
forever about the
validity of opinion polls,</i>

269
00:17:07,792 --> 00:17:10,160
<i>but what surely matters today</i>

270
00:17:10,161 --> 00:17:12,729
<i>is that this proposed war
by Britain</i>

271
00:17:12,730 --> 00:17:15,499
<i>is historically unpopular</i>

272
00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:17,768
<i>and the mother of all
focus groups has descended.</i>

273
00:17:17,769 --> 00:17:20,671
Hey, Martin.
We're now doing
some real reporting.

274
00:17:20,672 --> 00:17:23,207
It's huge.
Police are saying
over 500,000.

275
00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:25,275
Organizers are saying
over two million.

276
00:17:25,276 --> 00:17:26,844
So it will be a million then?

277
00:17:26,845 --> 00:17:28,545
Well, it's everywhere.
Every country.

278
00:17:28,546 --> 00:17:30,980
Biggest demonstration
in human history.

279
00:17:30,981 --> 00:17:33,584
Roger, I filed this story
seven times.

280
00:17:33,585 --> 00:17:36,520
And seven times
I have told you
I'm not going to print it.

281
00:17:36,521 --> 00:17:38,121
Ed, this paper supports the war.

282
00:17:38,122 --> 00:17:39,723
Our sources support
the war, Kamal.

283
00:17:39,724 --> 00:17:42,226
All I'm asking is that
mine be given equal time.

284
00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:43,227
Fair enough.

285
00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:43,326
Thank you.

286
00:17:43,327 --> 00:17:44,495
Well,
what do they say, Ed?

287
00:17:44,496 --> 00:17:46,396
That intelligence
is being manipulated

288
00:17:46,397 --> 00:17:48,900
to support an invasion
that Bush Junior's
been pushing for

289
00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,401
ever since Saddam
tried to kill
his daddy in '93.

290
00:17:51,402 --> 00:17:53,237
Oh, come on,
your source is retired.

291
00:17:53,238 --> 00:17:54,238
My source is ex-CIA!

292
00:17:55,006 --> 00:17:56,472
He talks to agents every day

293
00:17:56,473 --> 00:17:58,241
and he's talking to me
on the record!

294
00:17:58,242 --> 00:18:01,377
Named source! Christ!

295
00:18:01,378 --> 00:18:03,480
If you're gonna encourage
a country to go to war,

296
00:18:03,481 --> 00:18:05,481
perhaps you should spend
some time on
the front lines yourself!

297
00:18:05,482 --> 00:18:06,982
That is
a cheap shot, Ed.

298
00:18:06,983 --> 00:18:08,185
Is it?

299
00:18:08,186 --> 00:18:09,420
We're the press, for God's sake,

300
00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:11,422
not a fucking PR agency
for Tony Blair.

301
00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:12,423
That's enough!

302
00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:13,826
All right!

303
00:18:14,826 --> 00:18:16,360
You, go back to the States.

304
00:18:16,361 --> 00:18:17,827
I want you to find me
something from a source

305
00:18:17,828 --> 00:18:19,429
who hasn't already retired

306
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:21,265
and then maybe I'll rethink it.

307
00:18:21,266 --> 00:18:22,866
You're doing
a great job of it.
We just need some more.

308
00:18:22,867 --> 00:18:25,670
Yes, Peter.
Fuck you very much.

309
00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:26,938
And fewer words!

310
00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:29,806
If I ask for 500,
don't send me 3,000!

311
00:18:29,807 --> 00:18:32,675
This paper needs to take
its finger out of its arse

312
00:18:32,676 --> 00:18:35,278
and stop taking
Tony Blair's press releases

313
00:18:35,279 --> 00:18:36,847
at face fucking value!

314
00:18:36,848 --> 00:18:38,848
Hear, hear.

315
00:18:36,848 --> 00:18:38,714
Abso-fucking-lutely.

316
00:18:38,715 --> 00:18:39,715
Christ!

317
00:18:39,716 --> 00:18:40,988
You're too bloody right.

318
00:18:43,988 --> 00:18:45,823
Brighty, where's my piece

319
00:18:45,824 --> 00:18:48,659
comparing Saddam
to Milosevic?
I need 400 words.

320
00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:50,995
Yeah. It's not really
a 400-word topic, Rog.

321
00:18:50,996 --> 00:18:53,236
Yeah, it is. We have a right
to intervene in the Balkans.

322
00:18:54,031 --> 00:18:55,164
We should do the same in Iraq.

323
00:18:55,165 --> 00:18:56,566
Iraq's a little
more complicated.

324
00:18:56,567 --> 00:18:58,067
You've got Suni and Shia...

325
00:18:58,068 --> 00:18:59,202
Oh, fuck Sonny and Cher!

326
00:18:59,203 --> 00:19:01,538
What is this?
"I got you babe?"

327
00:19:01,539 --> 00:19:03,779
Just give me 400 words
the average reader
will understand.

328
00:19:04,008 --> 00:19:05,942
Milosevic bad.
Saddam bad.

329
00:19:05,943 --> 00:19:09,113
Just write a fucking story.
Stop overthinking it.

330
00:19:09,114 --> 00:19:10,619
All right.

331
00:19:15,619 --> 00:19:16,586
That was helpful.

332
00:19:16,587 --> 00:19:18,389
Just write the piece
as you see it, Martin,

333
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:20,891
and we'll cut it down later
if we need to, all right?

334
00:19:20,892 --> 00:19:22,826
Okay. Thank you, Peter.

335
00:19:26,897 --> 00:19:28,131
Sonny and Cher.

336
00:19:31,202 --> 00:19:32,670
Martin Bright.

337
00:19:32,671 --> 00:19:34,505
<i>I've got something
you need to see.</i>

338
00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:37,109
<i>It's big, Martin, really big.</i>

339
00:19:39,109 --> 00:19:40,116
Yvonne?

340
00:19:46,116 --> 00:19:47,183
Yvonne?

341
00:19:52,891 --> 00:19:55,992
Martin. So good to see you.

342
00:19:55,993 --> 00:19:58,127
In an underground car park?

343
00:19:58,128 --> 00:20:00,931
It's a little Deep Throat,
don't you think?

344
00:20:00,932 --> 00:20:02,932
There's no signal down here.

345
00:20:00,932 --> 00:20:02,336
Right.

346
00:20:05,336 --> 00:20:07,086
Wait till you see this.

347
00:20:21,086 --> 00:20:22,086
Who gave you this?

348
00:20:22,087 --> 00:20:23,653
Can't say.

349
00:20:23,654 --> 00:20:25,122
There's no info
saying who sent it.

350
00:20:25,123 --> 00:20:26,643
This could have been
written by anyone.

351
00:20:28,358 --> 00:20:29,358
That's who wrote it.

352
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,828
Well.

353
00:20:31,828 --> 00:20:33,363
Frank Koza.

354
00:20:33,364 --> 00:20:34,864
Who the fuck is Frank Koza?

355
00:20:34,865 --> 00:20:36,266
NSA.

356
00:20:36,267 --> 00:20:38,568
And this I know
because the letters NSA

357
00:20:38,569 --> 00:20:41,671
have been written on the back
with a leaky ballpoint.

358
00:20:41,672 --> 00:20:43,640
My source says
the header wasn't printed

359
00:20:43,641 --> 00:20:46,346
to protect the recipients
at GCHQ.

360
00:20:48,346 --> 00:20:49,412
When did you get it?

361
00:20:49,413 --> 00:20:50,413
Two weeks ago.

362
00:20:49,413 --> 00:20:50,815
Two weeks?

363
00:20:50,816 --> 00:20:53,216
I gave it to<i>
The Mirror</i> first.
Sorry.

364
00:20:53,217 --> 00:20:55,486
Jesus. Why didn't
they run it?

365
00:20:55,487 --> 00:20:56,487
They thought it was fake.

366
00:20:56,488 --> 00:20:57,721
No shit.

367
00:20:57,722 --> 00:20:59,222
Is your source NSA?

368
00:20:59,223 --> 00:21:00,757
No. A friend of the recipient.

369
00:21:00,758 --> 00:21:03,758
A good friend.

370
00:21:00,758 --> 00:21:03,160
A friend of a friend?

371
00:21:03,161 --> 00:21:06,130
A good friend
of a trusted friend.

372
00:21:06,131 --> 00:21:07,397
I'm sure it's real.

373
00:21:07,398 --> 00:21:09,066
Then why don't you
write the story?

374
00:21:09,067 --> 00:21:10,633
Oh, come on, Martin.

375
00:21:10,634 --> 00:21:13,404
I'm anti-war.
You're with<i> The Observer.</i>

376
00:21:14,404 --> 00:21:16,817
Just check it out.

377
00:21:31,122 --> 00:21:33,356
<i> NSA Press Office.
 How may I assist you?</i>

378
00:21:33,357 --> 00:21:34,624
Yes, hi, hello there.

379
00:21:34,625 --> 00:21:37,294
This is Martin Bright
from<i> The Observer</i> in London.

380
00:21:37,295 --> 00:21:39,063
Um, I'd like to arrange
an interview

381
00:21:39,064 --> 00:21:40,730
with Mr. Frank Koza.

382
00:21:40,731 --> 00:21:43,233
May I speak
to his office, please?

383
00:21:43,234 --> 00:21:44,734
<i>I'm sorry, Mr. Bright?</i>

384
00:21:44,735 --> 00:21:46,370
Martin Bright, yes.

385
00:21:46,371 --> 00:21:47,871
<i>Yes. Who did you wanna get?</i>

386
00:21:47,872 --> 00:21:51,607
Frank Koza, "Chief of Staff,
Regional Targets."

387
00:21:51,608 --> 00:21:53,477
<i>Mr. Bright, I'm afraid
we can't confirm</i>

388
00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:55,612
<i>the names of people
who work here.</i>

389
00:21:55,613 --> 00:21:57,147
<i>Could you give me
a little more detail</i>

390
00:21:57,148 --> 00:21:58,781
<i>about the story
you're working on?</i>

391
00:21:58,782 --> 00:22:02,152
Uh, well, no.
That's something I need
to talk to Mr. Koza

392
00:22:02,153 --> 00:22:03,423
about directly, I'm afraid.

393
00:22:05,423 --> 00:22:08,258
<i>Well, then I'm afraid
I'm not sure I can help you.</i>

394
00:22:08,259 --> 00:22:09,526
<i>When you have a little
more detail</i>

395
00:22:09,527 --> 00:22:11,027
<i>please feel free to call back.</i>

396
00:22:12,096 --> 00:22:13,766
Yeah, well...

397
00:22:14,766 --> 00:22:16,299
Hello?

398
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,800
You rang the NSA Press Office?

399
00:22:17,801 --> 00:22:19,103
Yeah.

400
00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:20,237
They have a press office.

401
00:22:20,238 --> 00:22:21,672
I thought that was
a good place to start.

402
00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:22,906
But you didn't
tell them anything?

403
00:22:22,907 --> 00:22:25,308
No, Peter.
I just asked for Frank Koza.

404
00:22:25,309 --> 00:22:26,777
Because if this is real,
you could go to jail

405
00:22:26,778 --> 00:22:29,679
just for having it
in your possession.

406
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,515
- I'm not letting this go.
- It's too good a story.

407
00:22:31,516 --> 00:22:32,916
I agree,
but if you get it wrong

408
00:22:32,917 --> 00:22:35,118
it will sink you,
it will sink the paper.

409
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,287
I'd like to get
a credible
intelligence expert

410
00:22:37,288 --> 00:22:38,568
to offer a view on the language.

411
00:22:39,023 --> 00:22:40,023
Yeah.

412
00:22:39,023 --> 00:22:40,990
And I thought
you could run it by

413
00:22:40,991 --> 00:22:42,461
your MI6 contact?

414
00:22:43,461 --> 00:22:45,461
- I don't have a MI6 contact.
- Sorry.

415
00:22:45,464 --> 00:22:47,766
I meant your tennis club friend.

416
00:22:48,766 --> 00:22:49,666
Sure.

417
00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:51,500
I'll take it
to Admiral Wilkinson.

418
00:22:51,501 --> 00:22:53,335
Be careful.
Before we risk

419
00:22:53,336 --> 00:22:55,171
a D-notice against publication

420
00:22:55,172 --> 00:22:58,976
I'd actually like
confirmation
that Frank Koza exists.

421
00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:00,443
Do you think it's authentic?

422
00:23:00,444 --> 00:23:02,179
Well, certainly
the words he used,

423
00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:03,881
"TOPI," for example,

424
00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:05,682
few outside
of the security apparatus

425
00:23:05,683 --> 00:23:06,950
would know what that means.

426
00:23:06,951 --> 00:23:08,085
What does it mean?

427
00:23:08,086 --> 00:23:10,153
Target of primary interest.

428
00:23:10,154 --> 00:23:13,623
And this term,
"QRC surge effort,"

429
00:23:13,624 --> 00:23:15,158
that's NSA military speak

430
00:23:15,159 --> 00:23:18,929
for significant
intensification
of surveillance operations.

431
00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:21,897
And this, where they ask
for "valuable information

432
00:23:21,898 --> 00:23:25,003
"from accesses
in your product lines..."

433
00:23:26,003 --> 00:23:29,139
...product lines
are intelligence sources.

434
00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:30,440
So it's been written by someone

435
00:23:30,441 --> 00:23:32,075
who's familiar
with security speak

436
00:23:32,076 --> 00:23:34,110
but that doesn't mean
it's definitely NSA.

437
00:23:34,111 --> 00:23:36,680
True, but there are
no obvious
amateur mistakes.

438
00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:38,181
Have you heard of Frank Koza?

439
00:23:38,182 --> 00:23:39,685
No.

440
00:23:41,685 --> 00:23:45,154
Paul, if we, if we wanted
to confirm that he exists...

441
00:23:45,155 --> 00:23:47,490
Oh, sorry.
I couldn't help you do that.

442
00:23:47,491 --> 00:23:48,791
Yeah, but if we wanted
to confirm that he...

443
00:23:48,792 --> 00:23:51,497
Well, my own sources
wouldn't ever trust me again.

444
00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:53,497
Understood.

445
00:23:55,266 --> 00:23:56,366
Understood.

446
00:23:59,036 --> 00:24:00,036
What?

447
00:24:00,037 --> 00:24:01,604
<i>Ed, Martin Bright.</i>

448
00:24:01,605 --> 00:24:03,874
Martin, Christ,
I just got back to DC.

449
00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:05,508
Sorry, Peter and I
have something urgent

450
00:24:05,509 --> 00:24:06,610
that we'd like to run by you.

451
00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:08,644
Are you on speaker?

452
00:24:08,645 --> 00:24:10,113
We are now. Hey...

453
00:24:10,114 --> 00:24:13,115
Peter, you need to tell Roger
to publish what I'm filing.

454
00:24:13,116 --> 00:24:16,120
This paper can't be seen
to be supporting a war

455
00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:17,988
that we should be doing
everything in our power

456
00:24:17,989 --> 00:24:19,222
to expose as a con.

457
00:24:19,223 --> 00:24:21,592
<i>A neocon.
A giant fucking con!</i>

458
00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:23,693
Ed, that's why
we're phoning.
We need your help.

459
00:24:23,694 --> 00:24:26,130
We have something
that might corroborate

460
00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:27,251
these things, you could say.

461
00:24:38,209 --> 00:24:39,808
Hey. Sorry.

462
00:24:41,179 --> 00:24:42,179
Do you wanna get lunch?

463
00:24:41,179 --> 00:24:42,412
What?

464
00:24:42,413 --> 00:24:44,279
Lunch. Eat.
Now. Yes.

465
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,982
Oh, no, I'm fine, thanks.

466
00:24:46,983 --> 00:24:49,983
Are you all right?

467
00:24:46,983 --> 00:24:49,252
Yeah. Yeah. I'm good.

468
00:24:49,253 --> 00:24:50,754
It, um...

469
00:24:50,755 --> 00:24:52,999
This new BBC poll,
it says that less than
one in ten people

470
00:24:53,023 --> 00:24:56,727
think it's right
to attack Iraq
without a UN resolution.

471
00:24:56,728 --> 00:24:59,563
Which is why that
memo was sent.
They need to twist arms.

472
00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:01,007
I don't think
it will make any difference.

473
00:25:01,031 --> 00:25:02,351
Most of the world
is against them.

474
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,069
You wanna eat, eat.

475
00:25:08,205 --> 00:25:10,985
<i> National Security Agency.
 How may I direct your call?</i>

476
00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:13,677
Hello, I'm returning
Frank Koza's call.

477
00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:15,178
My secretary said it was urgent.

478
00:25:15,179 --> 00:25:17,314
<i> I'm sorry.
Who are you trying to reach?</i>

479
00:25:17,315 --> 00:25:19,716
Frank Koza.
Mr. Frank Koza.

480
00:25:19,717 --> 00:25:21,451
<i>Sir, I'm sorry, there's no one</i>

481
00:25:21,452 --> 00:25:23,620
<i>by that name
in the directory, sir.</i>

482
00:25:23,621 --> 00:25:27,056
Oh, well, then that's odd.
He called me.

483
00:25:27,057 --> 00:25:31,060
<i>I'm sorry, but I'll need
an extension number.</i>

484
00:25:31,061 --> 00:25:32,929
<i>Do you have an extension number?</i>

485
00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:34,198
Ah...

486
00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:36,066
Nah.

487
00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:38,535
<i>Is there anything else
I can do for you?</i>

488
00:25:38,536 --> 00:25:40,437
No. No.

489
00:25:40,438 --> 00:25:41,604
Thank you. Thank you.

490
00:25:41,605 --> 00:25:43,139
<i>You have a nice day, sir.</i>

491
00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:44,140
You too.

492
00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:47,076
Fuck off.

493
00:25:47,077 --> 00:25:50,948
So I read the weapons
inspector's report.

494
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:52,816
Oh, congratulations.

495
00:25:52,817 --> 00:25:54,985
That's more
than most MP's ever done.

496
00:25:54,986 --> 00:25:56,486
Well, shit, that's depressing.

497
00:25:56,487 --> 00:25:57,886
Mmm-hmm. It is.

498
00:25:57,887 --> 00:26:00,123
Look, there are a few
pre-98 chemical weapons

499
00:26:00,124 --> 00:26:02,092
we have yet to be
accounted for
but inspectors said

500
00:26:02,093 --> 00:26:03,759
they found absolutely
no evidence

501
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,095
of an active chemical
or biological program.

502
00:26:06,096 --> 00:26:07,163
Correct.

503
00:26:07,164 --> 00:26:08,230
And yet Colin Powell presented

504
00:26:08,231 --> 00:26:09,865
clear evidence of mobile labs.

505
00:26:09,866 --> 00:26:13,303
His evidence may be based
on poor human intel

506
00:26:13,304 --> 00:26:14,938
from an Iraqi dissident.

507
00:26:14,939 --> 00:26:15,807
Really?

508
00:26:15,808 --> 00:26:16,906
The dissident isn't our product

509
00:26:16,907 --> 00:26:18,387
and should not be seen
as our product.

510
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:21,948
Whose product is he then?

511
00:26:23,948 --> 00:26:27,116
Look, Peter, I didn't say this,

512
00:26:27,117 --> 00:26:29,653
but there is concern
in certain quarters

513
00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:32,823
that intelligence
may be being manipulated

514
00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:34,725
to take this country to war.

515
00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:36,660
So why don't you tell
your journalists

516
00:26:36,661 --> 00:26:38,862
to stop being so bloody loyal
to Downing Street

517
00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,567
and start doing their job?

518
00:26:42,567 --> 00:26:43,570
Okay.

519
00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:50,406
Okay, what if I had
evidence that the NSA

520
00:26:50,407 --> 00:26:53,443
requested GCHQ
to help monitor
private communications

521
00:26:53,444 --> 00:26:55,778
of the UN Security Council
delegates?

522
00:26:55,779 --> 00:26:57,779
To what end?

523
00:26:55,779 --> 00:26:57,581
Bluntly?

524
00:26:57,582 --> 00:26:59,783
To blackmail them
into voting for war.

525
00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:01,418
I'm not with GCHQ.

526
00:27:01,419 --> 00:27:03,252
You're MI6,
you're on the same team.

527
00:27:03,253 --> 00:27:04,319
How did you hear about this?

528
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,122
A UN resolution for war

529
00:27:06,123 --> 00:27:08,592
would cover everyone's arse,
wouldn't it?

530
00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:11,493
No more asking your team
to sex up evidence of WMDs

531
00:27:11,494 --> 00:27:14,631
or the back-dodgy claims
that Britain was
about to be attacked

532
00:27:14,632 --> 00:27:16,666
by Iraq within 45 minutes.

533
00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:18,768
And no chance of anyone
being charged with a war crime

534
00:27:18,769 --> 00:27:20,105
if it all goes tits up.

535
00:27:22,105 --> 00:27:23,539
What are you asking me, Peter?

536
00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:26,610
I'm asking if you can confirm

537
00:27:26,611 --> 00:27:30,247
whether the NSA instructed GCHQ

538
00:27:30,248 --> 00:27:33,352
to assist in spying
on Security Council
delegates?

539
00:27:34,352 --> 00:27:36,020
You know I can't answer that.

540
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:39,655
To do so would put me
in breach of the
Official Secrets Act.

541
00:27:39,656 --> 00:27:42,028
To deny it would not.

542
00:27:44,028 --> 00:27:47,169
Well, I can neither confirm
nor deny.

543
00:27:52,169 --> 00:27:53,372
Okay.

544
00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:55,641
Let's play.

545
00:27:56,641 --> 00:27:57,641
Change ends, idiot.

546
00:27:57,642 --> 00:27:58,744
Yes.

547
00:28:00,744 --> 00:28:02,312
Your serve.

548
00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:05,315
So the head of the CIA
tells Bush it's a slam dunk

549
00:28:05,316 --> 00:28:08,483
that Saddam has weapons
of mass destruction.

550
00:28:08,484 --> 00:28:10,484
A slam dunk.

551
00:28:08,484 --> 00:28:10,386
Yes.

552
00:28:10,387 --> 00:28:12,387
And that's not true?

553
00:28:10,387 --> 00:28:12,355
No.

554
00:28:12,356 --> 00:28:14,990
Meaning Saddam definitely
does not have weapons

555
00:28:14,991 --> 00:28:17,160
of mass destruction
or he may not.

556
00:28:17,161 --> 00:28:20,729
Meaning the intelligence
is sketchy at best

557
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:22,499
and manufactured at worst.

558
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,701
And Tenet knows that?

559
00:28:24,702 --> 00:28:27,403
I've no doubt he knows that.

560
00:28:27,404 --> 00:28:29,572
I was with the agency 24 years.

561
00:28:29,573 --> 00:28:33,242
I can tell you,
folks over there
are really angry about this.

562
00:28:33,243 --> 00:28:34,978
Why?

563
00:28:34,979 --> 00:28:36,211
Why?

564
00:28:36,212 --> 00:28:38,214
Because the majority
of the analysts do not believe

565
00:28:38,215 --> 00:28:41,219
it's a slam dunk,
but no one wants to hear that.

566
00:28:42,219 --> 00:28:44,053
Not even the press.

567
00:28:44,054 --> 00:28:45,054
Sorry, Mel.

568
00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:46,789
I'm sorry.

569
00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:48,161
I'm just mad as hell.

570
00:28:50,161 --> 00:28:51,694
Listen, I wanted
to talk to you today

571
00:28:51,695 --> 00:28:55,598
because I think
I might finally be
onto something that...

572
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,669
...that really support
what you've been
saying for months.

573
00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:02,410
I need to talk to a man
called Frank Koza.

574
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,076
He's NSA.

575
00:29:07,077 --> 00:29:08,449
Head of Regional Targets.

576
00:29:11,449 --> 00:29:12,719
You know him?

577
00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:16,786
I'm sorry, Ed.

578
00:29:16,787 --> 00:29:19,546
I can't give out
that kind of information.

579
00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:43,546
What are you doing here?

580
00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:43,113
I'm sorry.

581
00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:44,114
I didn't wanna call.

582
00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:44,581
How long have you been here?

583
00:29:44,582 --> 00:29:46,249
We're not supposed
to be meeting.

584
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:48,183
I know, I've just...

585
00:29:48,184 --> 00:29:50,720
I've been following the news
and I haven't seen

586
00:29:50,721 --> 00:29:52,389
or heard anything
for three weeks.

587
00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:53,856
Okay, well,
I've given it to my contact

588
00:29:53,857 --> 00:29:55,558
and apparently,
she's having a very hard time

589
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,130
getting the papers
to believe that
it's not a fake.

590
00:30:00,130 --> 00:30:01,666
Oh, uh...

591
00:30:02,666 --> 00:30:05,501
Well, maybe that's okay.

592
00:30:05,502 --> 00:30:06,702
You know, I...

593
00:30:06,703 --> 00:30:07,871
Look, I mean,
all of the polls said

594
00:30:07,872 --> 00:30:09,172
everyone's against
the war, anyway

595
00:30:09,173 --> 00:30:11,575
and I, and I've
just been thinking...

596
00:30:11,576 --> 00:30:14,810
Look, I think
that I acted too rashly

597
00:30:14,811 --> 00:30:16,145
on impulse.
I didn't think...

598
00:30:16,146 --> 00:30:17,814
Jesus, Katharine, is it a fake?

599
00:30:17,815 --> 00:30:19,316
Of course it's not a fake.
It's real.

600
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:20,784
Well, then just go home!

601
00:30:20,785 --> 00:30:24,120
Okay, don't talk about this
to anyone, ever!

602
00:30:24,121 --> 00:30:25,124
Just...

603
00:30:27,124 --> 00:30:28,124
Sorry.

604
00:30:28,125 --> 00:30:29,828
It's out of our hands now.

605
00:30:31,828 --> 00:30:33,999
Sorry.

606
00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:38,101
The truth is,
the whole document
could be a fake.

607
00:30:38,102 --> 00:30:40,836
But we're satisfied
the language used is real.

608
00:30:40,837 --> 00:30:41,837
It's fascinating.

609
00:30:41,838 --> 00:30:42,942
Yeah.

610
00:30:44,942 --> 00:30:47,643
Is this document actually
in your possession?

611
00:30:47,644 --> 00:30:49,912
Well, if it were,
I'd be in breach of the
Official Secrets Act

612
00:30:49,913 --> 00:30:51,346
wouldn't I?

613
00:30:53,016 --> 00:30:54,750
So based on what might be
in this document...

614
00:30:54,751 --> 00:30:56,751
That you don't have.

615
00:30:54,751 --> 00:30:56,353
That I don't yet have.

616
00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:57,954
But that you want
to print in your paper.

617
00:30:58,021 --> 00:31:00,355
If you don't issue
a D-notice
against publication.

618
00:31:00,356 --> 00:31:01,857
Well, which I will
most certainly do

619
00:31:01,858 --> 00:31:04,093
if I think the publication
might in any way

620
00:31:04,094 --> 00:31:05,995
endanger the lives
of British people

621
00:31:05,996 --> 00:31:07,797
or British forces.

622
00:31:07,798 --> 00:31:09,798
Understood.

623
00:31:07,798 --> 00:31:09,598
Good.

624
00:31:11,402 --> 00:31:12,703
Go on.

625
00:31:13,703 --> 00:31:15,704
Would you say
it were likely real

626
00:31:15,705 --> 00:31:17,740
or a forgery?

627
00:31:17,741 --> 00:31:19,942
What do you think?

628
00:31:19,943 --> 00:31:21,877
I think it could be a fake

629
00:31:21,878 --> 00:31:24,382
put out
by the anti-war movement...

630
00:31:25,382 --> 00:31:28,285
...or by a foreign agency
to embarrass the US.

631
00:31:28,286 --> 00:31:29,786
Which agency?

632
00:31:29,787 --> 00:31:31,421
The Russians.

633
00:31:31,422 --> 00:31:33,056
I mean, the French
oppose the war, too,

634
00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:34,524
but I don't think
they'd do this.

635
00:31:34,525 --> 00:31:37,192
I think you might be
overthinking it as usual,
Martin.

636
00:31:37,193 --> 00:31:38,693
Meaning?

637
00:31:38,694 --> 00:31:40,699
You tell me.

638
00:31:41,699 --> 00:31:44,905
Well, meaning it could be
exactly what it says it is.

639
00:31:47,905 --> 00:31:50,206
You know, Martin,
I believe that all information

640
00:31:50,207 --> 00:31:53,112
collected in the name
of the public
should be made public.

641
00:31:55,112 --> 00:31:57,814
The only question is, when.

642
00:31:57,815 --> 00:32:01,852
But in this case,
I don't have
the luxury of time, Admiral.

643
00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:04,954
Powell just made
a very strong case for war.

644
00:32:04,955 --> 00:32:06,528
Yes, I see.

645
00:32:10,528 --> 00:32:13,262
I have also always believed

646
00:32:13,263 --> 00:32:16,132
that censorship when called for

647
00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:20,939
should be based
on security issues alone...

648
00:32:21,939 --> 00:32:23,271
...not on whether
a news report

649
00:32:23,272 --> 00:32:25,846
might embarrass a government.

650
00:32:29,846 --> 00:32:31,349
Thank you, Admiral.

651
00:32:32,349 --> 00:32:35,285
<i>Ed, it's Edie
from the London office.</i>

652
00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:37,053
<i>I got a weird message for you</i>

653
00:32:37,054 --> 00:32:38,822
<i>from someone
who wouldn't give his name.</i>

654
00:32:38,823 --> 00:32:42,392
<i>He said you should call
extension 6727.</i>

655
00:32:42,393 --> 00:32:45,460
<i>Makes no sense to me,
but maybe to you.</i>

656
00:32:45,461 --> 00:32:48,230
<i>6727. Good luck.</i>

657
00:32:48,231 --> 00:32:49,231
6727.

658
00:32:48,231 --> 00:32:49,632
<i>Bye-bye.</i>

659
00:32:49,633 --> 00:32:53,971
6727. 6727. 6727.

660
00:32:59,577 --> 00:33:00,577
6727.

661
00:33:04,115 --> 00:33:06,315
<i> NSA.
How may I direct your call?</i>

662
00:33:06,316 --> 00:33:09,986
Hello.
Extension 6727, please.

663
00:33:09,987 --> 00:33:11,787
<i>6727?</i>

664
00:33:11,788 --> 00:33:13,722
6727, yes.

665
00:33:13,723 --> 00:33:14,993
<i>One moment.</i>

666
00:33:16,993 --> 00:33:18,196
<i>Frank Koza's office.</i>

667
00:33:20,196 --> 00:33:22,632
Hello, may I speak
to Mr. Frank Koza, please?

668
00:33:22,633 --> 00:33:23,500
<i>Who shall I say is calling?</i>

669
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,035
I can't say.
Just put me through.

670
00:33:26,036 --> 00:33:27,406
<i>Yes, sir.</i>

671
00:33:29,406 --> 00:33:30,406
<i> Hello?</i>

672
00:33:32,209 --> 00:33:34,944
Mr. Koza? Mr. Frank Koza?

673
00:33:34,945 --> 00:33:37,313
<i>Yes. Who's calling?</i>

674
00:33:37,314 --> 00:33:39,348
Mr. Koza,
my name is Ed Vulliamy.

675
00:33:39,349 --> 00:33:42,152
I work for<i> The Observer</i>
newspaper in London.

676
00:33:42,153 --> 00:33:45,625
I wanted to ask you
about a memo
you sent to GCHQ.

677
00:33:49,625 --> 00:33:50,628
Mr. Koza?

678
00:33:54,731 --> 00:33:58,731
Do you think this is real?

679
00:33:54,731 --> 00:33:58,101
<i>Yes, they put me through.</i>

680
00:33:58,102 --> 00:33:59,102
To Frank Koza?

681
00:33:58,102 --> 00:33:59,702
Yes.

682
00:33:59,703 --> 00:34:01,805
And you spoke
to him directly,
right, Ed?

683
00:34:01,806 --> 00:34:04,539
<i>Well, we didn't exactly
have a conversation.</i>

684
00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:06,942
Did you speak to him or not?
Yes or no, Ed? Jesus.

685
00:34:06,943 --> 00:34:08,143
<i>Yes, but he cut me off</i>

686
00:34:08,144 --> 00:34:09,511
<i>when I said I worked
for</i> The Observer.

687
00:34:09,512 --> 00:34:12,515
But you're sure
that he exists,
right, Ed?

688
00:34:12,516 --> 00:34:13,783
<i>Hell yes, I'm sure!</i>

689
00:34:13,784 --> 00:34:16,021
I said, "Mr. Koza?"
He said, "Yes, who's calling?"

690
00:34:17,021 --> 00:34:18,553
All right. Thank you, Ed.

691
00:34:18,554 --> 00:34:20,924
Try not to fuck
this one up, Roger.

692
00:34:20,925 --> 00:34:22,925
Fuck off.

693
00:34:20,925 --> 00:34:22,792
<i>You're welcome, anytime.</i>

694
00:34:24,795 --> 00:34:26,295
<i> Hitler Diaries.</i>

695
00:34:26,296 --> 00:34:27,397
What?

696
00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:29,799
I'm just saying
it smells of a forgery
like the<i> Hitler Diaries</i>

697
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,868
and, of course,
publishing those
cost people their jobs.

698
00:34:31,869 --> 00:34:33,335
Which is precisely
why we're doing

699
00:34:33,336 --> 00:34:35,904
rigorous checking
on this, Kamal.

700
00:34:35,905 --> 00:34:38,905
Who brought you this?

701
00:34:35,905 --> 00:34:38,040
Friend.

702
00:34:38,041 --> 00:34:39,041
Someone from GCHQ?

703
00:34:39,042 --> 00:34:40,042
No.

704
00:34:40,043 --> 00:34:41,447
Then who?

705
00:34:44,447 --> 00:34:45,947
Yvonne Ridley.

706
00:34:45,948 --> 00:34:47,250
Yvonne fucking Ridley!

707
00:34:47,251 --> 00:34:49,352
The woman who fell off
a donkey in Afghanistan

708
00:34:49,353 --> 00:34:50,433
at some Taliban checkpoint!

709
00:34:51,021 --> 00:34:52,821
Her arse over a tit
with a camera up her burka

710
00:34:52,822 --> 00:34:54,089
and then she converted to Islam

711
00:34:54,090 --> 00:34:55,524
after she was released
by her kidnapper.

712
00:34:55,525 --> 00:34:57,160
None of which means
she's not right!

713
00:34:57,161 --> 00:34:58,361
She's anti-war!

714
00:34:58,362 --> 00:35:00,863
She probably typed
the fucking thing herself.

715
00:35:00,864 --> 00:35:03,366
Martin, you realize
the legal risks
we'll be taking?

716
00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:04,500
Yes.

717
00:35:04,501 --> 00:35:05,667
The last time
we published
anything like this

718
00:35:05,668 --> 00:35:07,370
you and Roger
almost went to prison.

719
00:35:07,371 --> 00:35:08,939
Jan, the last time
our source claimed

720
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,674
MI6 had funded an attempted
assassination on Gaddafi.

721
00:35:11,675 --> 00:35:13,343
This document
doesn't accuse anyone

722
00:35:13,344 --> 00:35:15,278
of doing anything
remotely like that.

723
00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:18,747
No, it merely suggests
that the US government,

724
00:35:18,748 --> 00:35:22,317
with the help
of Great Britain,
might try to twist arms

725
00:35:22,318 --> 00:35:25,354
and threaten UN delegates
into voting for a war in Iraq.

726
00:35:25,355 --> 00:35:27,695
It's a hell of a story.

727
00:35:31,695 --> 00:35:33,328
Look, we know Koza exists.

728
00:35:33,329 --> 00:35:35,531
Beaver says the language
used is authentic.

729
00:35:35,532 --> 00:35:37,334
And Wilkinson says
that while publication

730
00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:38,602
may embarrass both governments,

731
00:35:38,603 --> 00:35:40,403
he doesn't believe
that it poses a security risk

732
00:35:40,404 --> 00:35:42,504
to the British people
or the armed forces.

733
00:35:42,505 --> 00:35:43,839
Ironically,
publication may actually

734
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,808
prevent a war and save lives.

735
00:35:45,809 --> 00:35:46,809
Well.

736
00:35:46,810 --> 00:35:47,877
MI6?

737
00:35:47,878 --> 00:35:49,878
Would not confirm
but did not deny.

738
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:54,616
Jan, where are we legally?

739
00:35:54,617 --> 00:35:56,518
Wilkinson may not issue
a D-Notice

740
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:58,921
but that doesn't stop Special
Branch from coming after us.

741
00:35:58,922 --> 00:36:02,922
Thank you.

742
00:35:58,922 --> 00:36:02,124
Legally, we have
a top secret document

743
00:36:02,125 --> 00:36:03,829
in our possession.

744
00:36:06,829 --> 00:36:09,131
Look, Rog, don't forget

745
00:36:09,132 --> 00:36:10,799
we're getting
detailed information

746
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,569
directly from Blair's office.

747
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:14,570
Fuck off.

748
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:14,403
Well, he's right.

749
00:36:14,404 --> 00:36:17,040
Printing this kind of story
would kill that relationship.

750
00:36:17,041 --> 00:36:19,676
Since when did this paper
prioritize political access

751
00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,678
over its own
investigative reporting?

752
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,679
Yes.

753
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,247
We have taken a position
on this, guys!

754
00:36:24,248 --> 00:36:25,248
We support the war.

755
00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:30,655
Yes. We do.

756
00:36:31,655 --> 00:36:32,821
Fuck.

757
00:36:32,822 --> 00:36:34,525
But Peter's right.

758
00:36:35,525 --> 00:36:37,672
This is a fucking good story.

759
00:36:48,672 --> 00:36:49,952
Thank you, Roger.

760
00:36:53,777 --> 00:36:54,777
Here we go.

761
00:37:07,023 --> 00:37:08,658
Wait, I'll come with you.

762
00:37:08,659 --> 00:37:10,091
I'm just going to go
get some milk.

763
00:37:10,092 --> 00:37:11,593
Go back to bed.
I'll bring you a coffee.

764
00:37:11,594 --> 00:37:12,940
Okay.

765
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:26,940
Hi.

766
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:26,693
Morning.

767
00:37:43,693 --> 00:37:44,693
Hey.

768
00:37:52,369 --> 00:37:53,507
What's the matter,<i> janum?</i>

769
00:37:59,208 --> 00:38:00,351
What's going on?

770
00:38:08,351 --> 00:38:10,351
Bravo, Martin.

771
00:38:08,351 --> 00:38:10,185
Ah, there he is.

772
00:38:10,186 --> 00:38:11,587
Well done.

773
00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:14,990
Here he is!

774
00:38:14,991 --> 00:38:16,326
Nice one, Martin.

775
00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:26,468
Brighty, congratulations.

776
00:38:26,469 --> 00:38:27,971
Bloody brilliant.

777
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:29,972
Thank you.

778
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:29,904
What have you got for me next?

779
00:38:29,905 --> 00:38:31,941
Every major
European paper is citing us

780
00:38:31,942 --> 00:38:34,511
and we've had calls
in from CNN, NBC, and Fox.

781
00:38:34,512 --> 00:38:36,245
They all want to interview you
for their morning shows

782
00:38:36,246 --> 00:38:37,647
when they wake up in the US.

783
00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:38,846
Any response
from Downing Street?

784
00:38:38,847 --> 00:38:41,389
We got a call in,
but they're scrambling.

785
00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:46,389
Martin, line 2.

786
00:38:48,224 --> 00:38:49,927
Martin Bright.

787
00:38:50,927 --> 00:38:52,762
Thank you. Thank you.

788
00:38:53,762 --> 00:38:54,762
No.

789
00:38:55,032 --> 00:38:57,202
Uh, no, the person
who leaked it
hasn't been identified.

790
00:39:00,202 --> 00:39:02,270
Why'd you do it?

791
00:39:02,271 --> 00:39:03,906
I just thought
that they'd investigate.

792
00:39:03,907 --> 00:39:05,941
I never expected them
to print the whole memo.

793
00:39:05,942 --> 00:39:07,243
Why didn't you tell me?

794
00:39:07,244 --> 00:39:09,847
Sorry, I didn't, I didn't, I...

795
00:39:10,847 --> 00:39:12,448
I thought that you would try
and talk me out of it

796
00:39:12,449 --> 00:39:13,515
and I didn't want you to.

797
00:39:13,516 --> 00:39:15,516
My God,<i> janum.</i>

798
00:39:13,516 --> 00:39:15,183
I'm so sorry.

799
00:39:15,184 --> 00:39:16,454
They don't mention your name?

800
00:39:18,454 --> 00:39:19,954
I haven't told anyone.

801
00:39:19,955 --> 00:39:21,860
Good. That's good.

802
00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:26,097
That's very kind.
All right, thank you.

803
00:39:28,097 --> 00:39:31,167
Why don't you get in touch
with your friend Tony, Kamal?

804
00:39:31,168 --> 00:39:33,168
Ask him if he has an opinion.

805
00:39:31,168 --> 00:39:33,770
That's not funny, Rog.

806
00:39:33,771 --> 00:39:34,771
- Martin?
- Yes?

807
00:39:34,772 --> 00:39:36,052
NBC just canceled
your interview.

808
00:39:37,007 --> 00:39:38,543
What?

809
00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:42,343
NBC no longer wished
to interview Martin.

810
00:39:42,344 --> 00:39:44,680
Did they say why?

811
00:39:44,681 --> 00:39:46,348
They just said sorry,
but they didn't think

812
00:39:46,349 --> 00:39:47,982
they could fit you in anymore.

813
00:39:47,983 --> 00:39:49,118
Really?

814
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,355
Brighty, reporter from Santiago.

815
00:39:52,356 --> 00:39:54,259
Thank you. Martin Bright.

816
00:39:56,259 --> 00:39:57,526
Ah, uh. No.

817
00:39:57,527 --> 00:39:59,229
At this stage,
we have no idea
what information

818
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:00,964
was gathered from Chile
or any of the other countries.

819
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,965
Peter.

820
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,230
Yeah?

821
00:40:02,231 --> 00:40:04,433
Fox says that
they have to cancel.

822
00:40:04,434 --> 00:40:05,634
What? Why?

823
00:40:05,635 --> 00:40:08,303
Uh, yeah, Mexico is furious too.

824
00:40:08,304 --> 00:40:09,638
Okay.
Thank you.

825
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,639
Martin?

826
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,105
Yes?

827
00:40:11,106 --> 00:40:12,266
I've got a producer from CNN.

828
00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:16,949
Martin Bright.

829
00:40:18,949 --> 00:40:19,949
I see.

830
00:40:21,784 --> 00:40:24,289
No. No, no. No, no.
That's all right.

831
00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:26,421
Ah...

832
00:40:26,422 --> 00:40:27,422
May I ask why?

833
00:40:29,358 --> 00:40:31,429
Yes, I stand by it.
Of course I stand by it.

834
00:40:32,429 --> 00:40:33,429
<i>The Drudge Report?</i>

835
00:40:37,134 --> 00:40:38,134
Yeah.

836
00:40:39,101 --> 00:40:40,770
All right, okay.

837
00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:43,171
What the fuck is going on?

838
00:40:59,822 --> 00:41:00,922
It's fake.

839
00:41:00,923 --> 00:41:02,758
We've printed
a fake fucking memo

840
00:41:02,759 --> 00:41:04,498
from Yvonne fucking Ridley!

841
00:41:09,498 --> 00:41:13,335
Oh, you fucking idiot.
There. You see it?

842
00:41:13,336 --> 00:41:14,376
Because the Americans did.

843
00:41:15,005 --> 00:41:17,906
Favourable. F-A-V-O-U-R.

844
00:41:17,907 --> 00:41:22,812
Some English cunt has tried
to fake an American NSA memo

845
00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:25,281
and you fucking schmucks
fell for it.

846
00:41:25,282 --> 00:41:27,518
Wait. Martin,
where's the original?

847
00:41:28,518 --> 00:41:29,585
Where's the original document?

848
00:41:29,586 --> 00:41:30,800
Jesus.

849
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,800
American spelling.

850
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,165
What?

851
00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:45,971
The original
has American spelling.

852
00:41:47,971 --> 00:41:50,238
And this is what I filed, see?

853
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,874
Favorable. O-R.

854
00:41:51,875 --> 00:41:53,609
Just like the original.
Not O-U-R.

855
00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:56,184
And recognize with a Z,
not an S.

856
00:42:01,184 --> 00:42:03,456
Who changed what I wrote?

857
00:42:06,456 --> 00:42:07,756
Who...

858
00:42:07,757 --> 00:42:08,890
Who changed
what I fucking wrote?

859
00:42:08,891 --> 00:42:11,239
Come on, speak up!
Who did this?

860
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,976
Nicole, what did you do?

861
00:42:27,976 --> 00:42:29,246
I, um...

862
00:42:31,246 --> 00:42:33,454
I ran it through spell check.

863
00:42:37,454 --> 00:42:38,454
Spell check?

864
00:42:38,455 --> 00:42:39,990
Jesus.

865
00:42:40,990 --> 00:42:43,591
That's what I always do.
I'm so sorry.

866
00:42:43,592 --> 00:42:45,361
Do not cry, Nicole.

867
00:42:45,362 --> 00:42:47,835
Do not fucking cry.

868
00:42:52,835 --> 00:42:54,636
Okay, well, we know
that it's not fake.

869
00:42:54,637 --> 00:42:57,506
We go online,
we explain what happened,
we call all of the networks.

870
00:42:57,507 --> 00:42:58,874
Stop it, Martin.

871
00:42:58,875 --> 00:43:01,544
Fuck, Rog, it was
an honest mistake.

872
00:43:01,545 --> 00:43:03,712
Don't be so naive.

873
00:43:03,713 --> 00:43:06,948
You're an American editor.
What story do you put out now?

874
00:43:06,949 --> 00:43:10,986
That<i> The Observer</i>
is doubling down
on a fake memo?

875
00:43:10,987 --> 00:43:12,754
Or that the staff
of this newspaper

876
00:43:12,755 --> 00:43:16,496
are really so colossally stupid!

877
00:43:29,672 --> 00:43:32,463
It's all right.
Would you like a cup of tea?

878
00:43:53,463 --> 00:43:55,364
Someone in this building

879
00:43:55,365 --> 00:43:59,834
has betrayed their government
and their country.

880
00:43:59,835 --> 00:44:02,738
Now I'm sure
it wasn't anyone
in this division,

881
00:44:02,739 --> 00:44:04,339
but starting today,

882
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:07,609
Internal Security will be
conducting interviews

883
00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:10,413
with each and every one of you.

884
00:44:10,414 --> 00:44:13,915
If you know anything
or suspect anyone,

885
00:44:13,916 --> 00:44:17,618
it is your sworn duty
to speak up.

886
00:44:17,619 --> 00:44:20,089
If you do not
and you are found to have

887
00:44:20,090 --> 00:44:22,491
withheld information
of any kind,

888
00:44:22,492 --> 00:44:24,993
you will be charged
with a breach

889
00:44:24,994 --> 00:44:27,300
of the Official Secrets Act.

890
00:45:16,146 --> 00:45:19,281
You should see the file
that tosser's got on me.

891
00:45:19,282 --> 00:45:20,282
What did he ask you?

892
00:45:20,283 --> 00:45:21,795
Katharine!

893
00:45:31,795 --> 00:45:33,900
Come in, Katharine.

894
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:38,400
Katharine Gun?

895
00:45:38,401 --> 00:45:39,667
Yes?

896
00:45:39,668 --> 00:45:42,746
I'm John from
Internal Security. Please.

897
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,320
Mandarin translator.

898
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,357
GCHQ for two years.

899
00:46:01,358 --> 00:46:02,358
Yes.

900
00:46:02,359 --> 00:46:03,725
And before that?

901
00:46:03,726 --> 00:46:05,960
I taught English
to Japanese students.

902
00:46:05,961 --> 00:46:07,961
Hiroshima, right?

903
00:46:05,961 --> 00:46:07,797
Yes.

904
00:46:08,797 --> 00:46:10,598
Interesting.

905
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,569
Did you visit the memorial?

906
00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:14,736
The peace memorial?

907
00:46:14,737 --> 00:46:16,742
To the people
killed by the atomic bomb?

908
00:46:18,742 --> 00:46:20,509
Yes, actually, I did.

909
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:21,510
It's, uh...

910
00:46:23,112 --> 00:46:24,446
It's something
you really have to see.

911
00:46:24,447 --> 00:46:25,447
It's very moving.

912
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:31,419
Compels one to think
about the consequences of war,

913
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:33,589
doesn't it?

914
00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:35,590
Yes, I suppose it does.

915
00:46:35,591 --> 00:46:37,125
Are you anti-war, Katharine?

916
00:46:37,126 --> 00:46:38,259
No.

917
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:41,603
Uh, I think
sometimes war is necessary.

918
00:46:46,603 --> 00:46:48,703
I see you lived in Taiwan
as a child?

919
00:46:48,704 --> 00:46:49,704
Yes.

920
00:46:49,705 --> 00:46:50,906
How long did you live there?

921
00:46:50,907 --> 00:46:52,741
We moved over when I was three.

922
00:46:52,742 --> 00:46:54,010
I came back to do my A-levels.

923
00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:56,379
So for most
of your childhood then?

924
00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:57,815
Yes.

925
00:46:58,815 --> 00:47:00,482
You had a religious upbringing?

926
00:47:00,483 --> 00:47:01,716
No, not particularly.

927
00:47:01,717 --> 00:47:02,850
But were you sent away

928
00:47:02,851 --> 00:47:05,087
to a Christian
missionary school
in Taiwan?

929
00:47:05,088 --> 00:47:06,120
Yes.

930
00:47:06,121 --> 00:47:08,089
Gave you a clear sense
of right and wrong, did it,

931
00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:09,325
being in a mission school?

932
00:47:09,326 --> 00:47:10,692
I think my parents gave me that.

933
00:47:11,827 --> 00:47:13,398
Did you leak the Koza e-mail?

934
00:47:14,398 --> 00:47:15,398
No.

935
00:47:14,398 --> 00:47:15,698
No?

936
00:47:15,699 --> 00:47:16,934
No.

937
00:47:18,934 --> 00:47:20,934
But you read it?

938
00:47:18,934 --> 00:47:20,401
Yes.

939
00:47:20,402 --> 00:47:22,971
I mean, it was sent to me,
so I read it.

940
00:47:22,972 --> 00:47:25,842
What were your immediate
thoughts after you read it?

941
00:47:26,842 --> 00:47:28,410
Nothing much.
It didn't really bother me.

942
00:47:28,411 --> 00:47:29,411
It didn't?

943
00:47:29,412 --> 00:47:30,949
No.

944
00:47:32,949 --> 00:47:35,521
Who do you think
might have leaked it?

945
00:47:39,521 --> 00:47:40,521
I have no idea.

946
00:47:40,522 --> 00:47:41,823
No?

947
00:47:41,824 --> 00:47:43,824
No.

948
00:47:41,824 --> 00:47:43,725
No?

949
00:47:43,726 --> 00:47:44,726
No.

950
00:47:47,563 --> 00:47:49,400
Thank you, Mrs. Gun.

951
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,608
That's all for now.

952
00:47:58,608 --> 00:48:00,575
Eat a little.

953
00:48:00,576 --> 00:48:01,576
Please.

954
00:48:04,246 --> 00:48:07,021
They're bringing everyone in.
One by one.

955
00:48:11,021 --> 00:48:12,789
You haven't said anything?

956
00:48:13,789 --> 00:48:15,161
Okay. Just eat a little.

957
00:48:19,161 --> 00:48:21,701
Everything will be all right.

958
00:48:25,701 --> 00:48:26,844
Eat.

959
00:48:34,844 --> 00:48:36,912
Hi, Fiona, it's Katharine.

960
00:48:36,913 --> 00:48:38,480
Um...

961
00:48:38,481 --> 00:48:39,580
I'm so sorry

962
00:48:39,581 --> 00:48:42,151
but I don't think I'm gonna
be able to come in today.

963
00:48:42,152 --> 00:48:45,856
Yeah, I think
I've caught a tummy bug.

964
00:48:46,856 --> 00:48:48,358
Yeah.

965
00:48:49,358 --> 00:48:50,859
Thank you.

966
00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:53,095
Thank you so much.

967
00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:54,766
What'd she say?

968
00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:57,466
She said I should get some rest.

969
00:48:57,467 --> 00:48:58,966
Good.

970
00:48:58,967 --> 00:49:00,467
She was nice.

971
00:49:00,468 --> 00:49:01,507
That's good.

972
00:49:03,507 --> 00:49:04,777
Try and sleep.

973
00:49:07,777 --> 00:49:09,590
Sorry, I have to go.

974
00:49:21,590 --> 00:49:24,859
<i>...ask you about a report
in</i> The Observer<i> newspaper</i>

975
00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:26,861
<i>in London, a memo</i>

976
00:49:26,862 --> 00:49:30,399
<i>reported to be from a man
who actually works at the NSA</i>

977
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,335
<i>in which he describes
a "surge in surveillance</i>

978
00:49:34,336 --> 00:49:37,071
<i>"of UN Security Council
members."</i>

979
00:49:37,072 --> 00:49:38,207
<i>What's your response?</i>

980
00:49:38,208 --> 00:49:40,942
Terry, as a matter
of long-standing policy

981
00:49:40,943 --> 00:49:43,210
the administration
never comments on anything

982
00:49:43,211 --> 00:49:46,582
involving any people
involved in intelligence.

983
00:49:46,583 --> 00:49:48,083
No, of course, you don't.

984
00:49:48,084 --> 00:49:49,283
What the fuck?

985
00:49:49,284 --> 00:49:51,352
<i> If you're
a Cameroonian diplomat</i>

986
00:49:51,353 --> 00:49:53,788
<i>or a French diplomat
at the United Nations</i>

987
00:49:53,789 --> 00:49:55,390
<i>then you're gonna have
to operate on the assumption</i>

988
00:49:55,391 --> 00:49:56,558
<i>that the United States
is bugging you.</i>

989
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:59,194
<i>No, it's a blanket matter
of policy</i>

990
00:49:59,195 --> 00:50:01,964
<i>that we do not
answer questions
of that nature...</i>

991
00:50:01,965 --> 00:50:03,965
Hi.

992
00:50:01,965 --> 00:50:03,564
Hi.

993
00:50:03,565 --> 00:50:05,801
<i>...I'm not indicating
to you whether
it's true or not true.</i>

994
00:50:05,802 --> 00:50:07,201
Have you eaten?

995
00:50:07,202 --> 00:50:10,671
<i>...of policy that predates
this administration.</i>

996
00:50:10,672 --> 00:50:12,672
I brought soup.
A bean salad.

997
00:50:15,110 --> 00:50:16,110
I'm gonna say it was me.

998
00:50:18,047 --> 00:50:20,883
The Americans
are refusing to admit
that the memo was real.

999
00:50:20,884 --> 00:50:21,884
I have to tell the truth.

1000
00:50:21,885 --> 00:50:22,951
No.

1001
00:50:22,952 --> 00:50:26,221
If I don't,
then they'll get away
with saying it was a fake.

1002
00:50:26,222 --> 00:50:29,325
<i>Janum,</i> you did what you could.
Now leave it alone, please!

1003
00:50:29,326 --> 00:50:30,392
What am I supposed to do?

1004
00:50:30,393 --> 00:50:32,127
Am I supposed
to keep lying forever?

1005
00:50:32,128 --> 00:50:33,962
If you say nothing,
they can never prove anything.

1006
00:50:33,963 --> 00:50:35,830
They are questioning
everyone at work.

1007
00:50:35,831 --> 00:50:36,997
They're interrogating
my friends.

1008
00:50:36,998 --> 00:50:38,533
They're asking people
to name names.

1009
00:50:38,534 --> 00:50:40,034
That will be over soon.

1010
00:50:40,035 --> 00:50:41,903
And then what?

1011
00:50:41,904 --> 00:50:43,339
There will be a question mark

1012
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:45,739
in hundreds of people's files
because of me.

1013
00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:48,042
They will put you in jail!

1014
00:50:48,043 --> 00:50:49,377
I have to prove it was real.

1015
00:50:49,378 --> 00:50:50,578
Everyone at work knows that

1016
00:50:50,579 --> 00:50:52,814
what the NSA
asked us to do was illegal.

1017
00:50:52,815 --> 00:50:54,815
Nobody cares!

1018
00:50:52,815 --> 00:50:54,018
Well, I care!

1019
00:50:57,018 --> 00:50:58,886
If I don't say it was me,
then we'll go to war

1020
00:50:58,887 --> 00:51:01,189
based on blackmail and lies.

1021
00:51:01,190 --> 00:51:03,327
And I can't live
with that. I won't.

1022
00:51:05,327 --> 00:51:07,664
<i>Janum,</i> please listen to me.

1023
00:51:08,664 --> 00:51:09,632
I work at a cafe.

1024
00:51:09,633 --> 00:51:11,533
I took the job
because I needed a job.

1025
00:51:11,534 --> 00:51:13,368
But it's just a job.

1026
00:51:13,369 --> 00:51:15,703
You did the same thing,
remember?

1027
00:51:15,704 --> 00:51:17,805
When you saw the advert,
you said you didn't even know

1028
00:51:17,806 --> 00:51:19,644
what the job really was.

1029
00:51:21,644 --> 00:51:23,146
It's just a job.

1030
00:51:24,146 --> 00:51:26,351
And you can get another job.

1031
00:51:29,351 --> 00:51:31,685
You just need to keep
your head down
for a few more weeks

1032
00:51:31,686 --> 00:51:33,389
until things calm down.

1033
00:51:34,389 --> 00:51:36,177
Then you resign,
you can get another job.

1034
00:51:54,177 --> 00:51:56,619
Hey.

1035
00:52:03,619 --> 00:52:05,319
On a diet?

1036
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,320
What?

1037
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,056
No cinnamon bun?

1038
00:52:10,092 --> 00:52:11,561
Who's in there now?

1039
00:52:12,561 --> 00:52:15,230
Nuri. Second time.

1040
00:52:15,231 --> 00:52:17,271
Had him take a lie detector
test yesterday.

1041
00:52:22,271 --> 00:52:23,757
Mi-Yung!

1042
00:53:22,465 --> 00:53:23,969
I did it.

1043
00:53:25,969 --> 00:53:27,307
It was me.

1044
00:53:31,307 --> 00:53:32,713
Oh, Katharine.

1045
00:53:37,713 --> 00:53:38,713
Leave us, please.

1046
00:54:33,168 --> 00:54:34,168
Handbag.

1047
00:54:37,005 --> 00:54:38,775
Rings.

1048
00:54:40,775 --> 00:54:42,346
Necklace.

1049
00:54:43,346 --> 00:54:45,913
Watch. Belt.

1050
00:54:45,914 --> 00:54:47,914
I don't have a belt.

1051
00:54:50,585 --> 00:54:52,161
Take her through cell 7.

1052
00:55:08,704 --> 00:55:11,909
I've found the passports
and a couple of foreign books.

1053
00:55:13,909 --> 00:55:15,047
Who are you?

1054
00:55:17,047 --> 00:55:18,050
Where's my wife?

1055
00:55:21,050 --> 00:55:23,384
I want to see her.
Where is she?

1056
00:55:23,385 --> 00:55:26,754
They can't keep me long.
They haven't charged me yet.

1057
00:55:26,755 --> 00:55:28,260
No contact, please.

1058
00:55:32,260 --> 00:55:33,760
Where are they holding you?

1059
00:55:33,761 --> 00:55:35,132
Downstairs.

1060
00:55:37,132 --> 00:55:39,177
I'm okay.
I promise I'm okay.

1061
00:55:48,177 --> 00:55:49,581
I brought this.

1062
00:55:51,581 --> 00:55:53,987
It will get cold tonight.

1063
00:55:57,987 --> 00:55:58,987
Thank you.

1064
00:56:14,570 --> 00:56:16,911
Lights out.

1065
00:56:27,983 --> 00:56:29,483
Katharine Gun?

1066
00:56:29,484 --> 00:56:30,585
Yes.

1067
00:56:30,586 --> 00:56:33,856
We're from Scotland Yard.
Do you have a lawyer?

1068
00:56:34,856 --> 00:56:35,757
No.

1069
00:56:35,758 --> 00:56:38,125
There's a duty
solicitor on call.

1070
00:56:38,126 --> 00:56:39,164
She'll sit in with you.

1071
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,334
Your supervisor
speaks highly
of your integrity.

1072
00:56:47,335 --> 00:56:51,672
She says this breach
was a foolish one-off.

1073
00:56:51,673 --> 00:56:52,707
Was it?

1074
00:56:52,708 --> 00:56:55,509
Do you mean if I leaked
anything else? No.

1075
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:56,510
Do you intend to?

1076
00:56:56,511 --> 00:56:57,947
No.

1077
00:56:58,947 --> 00:57:01,415
I've always been very proud
to work at GCHQ.

1078
00:57:01,416 --> 00:57:02,416
Until now.

1079
00:57:04,019 --> 00:57:06,287
Yes. Until now.

1080
00:57:06,288 --> 00:57:08,525
What were you employed to do?

1081
00:57:09,525 --> 00:57:11,896
Well, I can't be specific.

1082
00:57:12,896 --> 00:57:14,264
Be general then.

1083
00:57:15,264 --> 00:57:17,198
I translated signals
intelligence

1084
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:18,665
and I reported anything

1085
00:57:18,666 --> 00:57:20,636
I thought
might be of interest
to my clients.

1086
00:57:20,637 --> 00:57:22,637
Your clients?

1087
00:57:20,637 --> 00:57:22,537
The Foreign Office.

1088
00:57:22,538 --> 00:57:23,738
The Ministry of Defense.

1089
00:57:23,739 --> 00:57:25,774
So, you work
for the British Government.

1090
00:57:25,775 --> 00:57:27,275
No. Not really.

1091
00:57:27,276 --> 00:57:28,642
No?

1092
00:57:28,643 --> 00:57:30,544
Governments change.

1093
00:57:30,545 --> 00:57:32,480
I work for the British people.

1094
00:57:32,481 --> 00:57:33,481
I gather intelligence

1095
00:57:34,016 --> 00:57:38,120
so that the government
can protect
the British people.

1096
00:57:38,121 --> 00:57:41,388
I do not gather intelligence
so that the government can lie

1097
00:57:41,389 --> 00:57:43,626
to the British people.

1098
00:57:45,626 --> 00:57:48,363
With respect, Mrs. Gun,

1099
00:57:48,364 --> 00:57:50,832
you're a spy.

1100
00:57:50,833 --> 00:57:51,701
Yes.

1101
00:57:51,702 --> 00:57:52,767
You gather information

1102
00:57:52,768 --> 00:57:54,535
from people's phones
and computers

1103
00:57:54,536 --> 00:57:56,538
and you feed that
to your clients.

1104
00:57:56,539 --> 00:57:58,539
Yes.

1105
00:57:58,540 --> 00:58:00,207
You eavesdrop
on private conversations.

1106
00:58:00,208 --> 00:58:02,377
And now you're upset
at being asked to do that

1107
00:58:02,378 --> 00:58:04,245
to members
of the Security Council?

1108
00:58:04,246 --> 00:58:05,948
Detective...

1109
00:58:05,949 --> 00:58:09,018
I don't object to being asked
to collect information

1110
00:58:10,018 --> 00:58:13,187
that could help
prevent a terror attack.

1111
00:58:13,188 --> 00:58:17,491
What I object to
is being asked
to gather intelligence

1112
00:58:17,492 --> 00:58:20,595
to help fix a vote at the UN

1113
00:58:20,596 --> 00:58:23,237
and deceive the world
into going to war.

1114
00:58:27,237 --> 00:58:28,237
Who put you up to this?

1115
00:58:28,238 --> 00:58:29,870
No one.

1116
00:58:29,871 --> 00:58:31,506
But you gave the memo
to someone.

1117
00:58:31,507 --> 00:58:33,942
Who did you give it to?
A journalist?

1118
00:58:33,943 --> 00:58:36,912
Someone in the anti-war
movement?

1119
00:58:36,913 --> 00:58:37,913
Your husband?

1120
00:58:39,081 --> 00:58:40,348
You don't have
to answer that.

1121
00:58:40,349 --> 00:58:41,649
No, I will answer that.

1122
00:58:41,650 --> 00:58:43,685
My husband had absolutely
nothing to do with this.

1123
00:58:43,686 --> 00:58:46,388
He was briefly detained
here, too, wasn't he?

1124
00:58:46,389 --> 00:58:47,889
Pending deportation?

1125
00:58:47,890 --> 00:58:49,323
Yes, he was.

1126
00:58:49,324 --> 00:58:50,824
And then you married him.

1127
00:58:50,825 --> 00:58:52,060
Yes.

1128
00:58:52,061 --> 00:58:53,421
His paperwork
has been resubmitted.

1129
00:58:54,028 --> 00:58:56,028
He signs in here once a week.

1130
00:58:54,028 --> 00:58:56,266
He's a Muslim.

1131
00:58:58,266 --> 00:58:59,334
I'm sorry?

1132
00:58:59,335 --> 00:59:01,069
He's a Kurdish Turk

1133
00:59:01,070 --> 00:59:04,138
seeking permanent residence
in Britain.

1134
00:59:04,139 --> 00:59:07,841
And given what
Saddam Hussein has done
to the Kurdish people,

1135
00:59:07,842 --> 00:59:12,080
murdering over
180,000 of them
with chemical weapons,

1136
00:59:12,081 --> 00:59:13,515
I can assure you

1137
00:59:13,516 --> 00:59:16,451
my husband has absolutely
no sympathy whatsoever

1138
00:59:16,452 --> 00:59:17,585
with the Iraqi regime.

1139
00:59:17,586 --> 00:59:18,854
Then why did you leak a memo

1140
00:59:18,855 --> 00:59:22,089
intended to help
remove Saddam Hussein?

1141
00:59:22,090 --> 00:59:23,191
'Cause by attacking Iraq,

1142
00:59:23,192 --> 00:59:25,861
you don't simply attack
Saddam Hussein,

1143
00:59:25,862 --> 00:59:29,096
you attack the country
of over 30 million people!

1144
00:59:29,097 --> 00:59:31,665
And I cannot bear to think
of the pain and the suffering

1145
00:59:31,666 --> 00:59:32,868
that that will cause.

1146
00:59:32,869 --> 00:59:36,171
Frankly, I don't see
how anyone can bear it.

1147
00:59:36,172 --> 00:59:38,939
Detective,
is she going to be
formally charged?

1148
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:40,942
That's a decision
for the Attorney General.

1149
00:59:40,943 --> 00:59:45,680
Lord Goldsmith
will need time to decide
how to deal with you.

1150
00:59:45,681 --> 00:59:47,482
The custody sergeant
will release you

1151
00:59:47,483 --> 00:59:48,950
on police bail today.

1152
00:59:48,951 --> 00:59:50,852
You'll be told
to return to the station

1153
00:59:50,853 --> 00:59:52,854
in approximately three months,

1154
00:59:52,855 --> 00:59:55,256
by which time a decision
on whether to charge you

1155
00:59:55,257 --> 00:59:56,257
will have been made.

1156
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:09,373
Are you all right,<i> janum?</i>

1157
01:00:10,373 --> 01:00:11,373
Are you all right?

1158
01:00:11,374 --> 01:00:12,439
Yeah, come on.

1159
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,241
Katharine?

1160
01:00:14,242 --> 01:00:17,377
I'm sorry. I deal mostly
with petty criminals,

1161
01:00:17,378 --> 01:00:19,647
drunks and drug addicts.

1162
01:00:19,648 --> 01:00:21,750
If you're charged,
you're gonna need someone

1163
01:00:21,751 --> 01:00:23,951
with a lot more
experience than me.

1164
01:00:23,952 --> 01:00:25,452
I see.

1165
01:00:25,453 --> 01:00:26,921
Have you heard of Liberty?

1166
01:00:26,922 --> 01:00:28,756
They handle human rights cases,

1167
01:00:28,757 --> 01:00:32,160
political cases, often for free.

1168
01:00:32,161 --> 01:00:36,930
Well... I just wanted
to be sure you knew that.

1169
01:00:36,931 --> 01:00:38,931
Good luck.

1170
01:00:36,931 --> 01:00:38,399
Thank you.

1171
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,400
Thank you.

1172
01:00:42,070 --> 01:00:43,772
<i>George W. Bush's patience</i>

1173
01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:45,372
<i>with the United Nation
has run out</i>

1174
01:00:45,373 --> 01:00:48,243
<i>because they haven't managed
to get those nine votes</i>

1175
01:00:48,244 --> 01:00:50,779
<i>at the Security Council
which would give them,</i>

1176
01:00:50,780 --> 01:00:52,513
<i>what they call,
a moral majority.</i>

1177
01:00:52,514 --> 01:00:56,417
<i>That represents a real failure
of American diplomacy.</i>

1178
01:00:56,418 --> 01:00:58,718
<i>This is the man who's
advising Tony Blair</i>

1179
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:00,721
<i>on the legality of war.</i>

1180
01:01:00,722 --> 01:01:02,189
<i>The Attorney General
Lord Goldsmith</i>

1181
01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:04,892
<i>has, I understand,
told the Prime Minister</i>

1182
01:01:04,893 --> 01:01:08,162
<i>military action would be legal
without a second resolution.</i>

1183
01:01:08,163 --> 01:01:09,897
<i>But it's all down
to interpretation.</i>

1184
01:01:09,898 --> 01:01:11,665
What is she saying?
They have not got the votes

1185
01:01:11,666 --> 01:01:13,535
but they're going to war,
anyway?

1186
01:01:13,536 --> 01:01:16,538
<i>...arguing old
UN resolutions don't count</i>

1187
01:01:16,539 --> 01:01:19,573
<i>and war is illegal
without a new one</i>

1188
01:01:19,574 --> 01:01:20,908
<i>or a new threat.</i>

1189
01:01:20,909 --> 01:01:22,176
<i>So the troops are in place.</i>

1190
01:01:22,177 --> 01:01:24,379
<i>Some UN inspectors
are quitting Iraq.</i>

1191
01:01:24,380 --> 01:01:26,046
<i>Just how close are we to war?</i>

1192
01:01:26,047 --> 01:01:28,716
<i>Fergus has been assessing
the evidence. Fergus?</i>

1193
01:01:28,717 --> 01:01:30,285
<i> All the signs are now</i>

1194
01:01:30,286 --> 01:01:32,422
<i>that war is very,
very close now...</i>

1195
01:01:34,422 --> 01:01:35,858
Hi.

1196
01:01:36,858 --> 01:01:38,858
Do you wanna come in?

1197
01:01:36,858 --> 01:01:38,259
Oh, no, no, no.

1198
01:01:38,260 --> 01:01:40,361
I'm all packed for London.

1199
01:01:40,362 --> 01:01:42,495
I just, um...

1200
01:01:42,496 --> 01:01:45,969
I just wanted to say,
I think that
what you did was amazing.

1201
01:01:46,969 --> 01:01:48,969
You do?

1202
01:01:48,970 --> 01:01:50,706
Yeah. A lot of us do.

1203
01:01:51,706 --> 01:01:52,706
Really?

1204
01:01:54,376 --> 01:01:56,646
Are they going to charge you?

1205
01:01:57,646 --> 01:01:58,646
I don't know.

1206
01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:03,984
God, Kat, I'm so sorry.

1207
01:02:03,985 --> 01:02:05,720
Hey, you didn't do
anything wrong.

1208
01:02:05,721 --> 01:02:08,998
I didn't do
anything right. I...

1209
01:02:17,766 --> 01:02:20,641
I better be going. Bye.

1210
01:02:41,824 --> 01:02:43,857
<i>My fellow citizens,</i>

1211
01:02:43,858 --> 01:02:46,995
<i>at this hour,
American and coalition forces</i>

1212
01:02:46,996 --> 01:02:49,730
<i>are in the early stages
of military operations</i>

1213
01:02:49,731 --> 01:02:52,866
to disarm Iraq,
to free its people

1214
01:02:52,867 --> 01:02:55,770
and to defend the world
from grave danger.

1215
01:02:55,771 --> 01:02:59,674
<i>Our nation enters
this conflict reluctantly,</i>

1216
01:02:59,675 --> 01:03:02,410
<i>yet our purpose is sure.</i>

1217
01:03:02,411 --> 01:03:04,946
<i>The people
of the United States
and our friends and allies</i>

1218
01:03:04,947 --> 01:03:08,383
<i>will not live at the mercy
of an outlaw regime</i>

1219
01:03:08,384 --> 01:03:11,886
<i>that threatens the peace
with weapons of mass murder.</i>

1220
01:03:16,992 --> 01:03:18,292
<i>We will meet that threat now.</i>

1221
01:03:18,293 --> 01:03:21,229
We should have
got that memo out
sooner.

1222
01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:22,730
We did what we could.

1223
01:03:22,731 --> 01:03:24,497
We fucking failed.

1224
01:03:24,498 --> 01:03:26,468
<i> So that we
do not have to meet it later</i>

1225
01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:30,605
<i>with armies of firefighters
and police and doctors</i>

1226
01:03:30,606 --> 01:03:33,140
<i>on the streets of our cities.</i>

1227
01:03:33,141 --> 01:03:35,076
<i>Now that conflict has come,</i>

1228
01:03:35,077 --> 01:03:36,944
<i>the only way
to limit its duration</i>

1229
01:03:36,945 --> 01:03:39,413
<i>is to apply decisive force.</i>

1230
01:03:39,414 --> 01:03:41,216
I'm so fucking naive.

1231
01:03:41,217 --> 01:03:44,384
<i>This will not be a campaign
of half measures</i>

1232
01:03:44,385 --> 01:03:47,721
<i>and we will accept
no outcome but victory.</i>

1233
01:04:04,974 --> 01:04:06,945
I have to go.

1234
01:04:09,945 --> 01:04:12,247
You want to come to the cafe?

1235
01:04:12,248 --> 01:04:13,889
Work with me?

1236
01:04:19,889 --> 01:04:21,693
I'll call you later.

1237
01:04:24,693 --> 01:04:26,463
If we use the phones,

1238
01:04:27,463 --> 01:04:29,431
they'll be listening.

1239
01:04:30,431 --> 01:04:32,767
Let them listen.

1240
01:04:32,768 --> 01:04:34,806
We have nothing to hide.

1241
01:04:37,806 --> 01:04:39,943
You should contact
those lawyers...

1242
01:04:41,943 --> 01:04:43,346
...today.

1243
01:04:44,346 --> 01:04:45,804
Please.

1244
01:05:11,106 --> 01:05:12,106
<i> Hello?</i>

1245
01:05:12,107 --> 01:05:13,341
Hi. Uh, it's Katharine.

1246
01:05:13,342 --> 01:05:14,908
Uh, Katharine Gun.
I phoned this morning.

1247
01:05:14,909 --> 01:05:18,014
<i>Oh, yes, Katharine.
Please, um, come on up.</i>

1248
01:05:24,985 --> 01:05:25,985
Katharine?

1249
01:05:25,986 --> 01:05:26,986
Hello.

1250
01:05:26,987 --> 01:05:29,156
James.
Lovely to meet you.

1251
01:05:29,157 --> 01:05:30,157
Thanks for seeing me.

1252
01:05:29,157 --> 01:05:30,924
Not at all.

1253
01:05:30,925 --> 01:05:32,359
I'm sorry about the decor.

1254
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,263
We like to say
we focus more
on our clients.

1255
01:05:35,264 --> 01:05:37,430
This is Shami Chakrabarti,
our director.

1256
01:05:37,431 --> 01:05:39,431
Hello, Katharine.

1257
01:05:39,432 --> 01:05:41,435
And this is Ben Emmerson.

1258
01:05:41,436 --> 01:05:42,502
Hi.

1259
01:05:42,503 --> 01:05:43,770
Hello.

1260
01:05:43,771 --> 01:05:46,107
This was the only memo you took?

1261
01:05:46,108 --> 01:05:47,108
Yes.

1262
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:48,576
No one suggested you take it?

1263
01:05:48,577 --> 01:05:50,077
No.

1264
01:05:50,078 --> 01:05:51,578
And you've never
met Martin Bright?

1265
01:05:51,579 --> 01:05:52,647
No.

1266
01:05:52,648 --> 01:05:53,514
Martin called me last week.

1267
01:05:53,515 --> 01:05:55,216
He said he didn't know
who you were,

1268
01:05:55,217 --> 01:05:58,620
but he wanted us to be aware
that you might need our help.

1269
01:05:58,621 --> 01:06:00,555
Well, that was very kind of him.

1270
01:06:00,556 --> 01:06:02,957
He said he got the memo
from someone he knew

1271
01:06:02,958 --> 01:06:04,924
but he wouldn't say who.

1272
01:06:04,925 --> 01:06:07,798
Do you want to tell us
who you gave it to?

1273
01:06:10,798 --> 01:06:12,901
Look,

1274
01:06:12,902 --> 01:06:16,738
if you don't mind,
I would prefer not to say.

1275
01:06:16,739 --> 01:06:18,939
I promised I wouldn't.

1276
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:21,076
Okay.

1277
01:06:21,077 --> 01:06:23,197
When you met Yasar, he had
already applied for asylum.

1278
01:06:24,012 --> 01:06:25,012
Yes.

1279
01:06:25,013 --> 01:06:26,346
Which was denied.

1280
01:06:26,347 --> 01:06:30,116
Yes, uh, they said
that there wasn't
a significant enough risk

1281
01:06:30,117 --> 01:06:32,087
of persecution if he went back.

1282
01:06:32,088 --> 01:06:33,788
And that's when you married him?

1283
01:06:33,789 --> 01:06:34,789
Yes.

1284
01:06:34,790 --> 01:06:35,890
And did he pay you?

1285
01:06:35,891 --> 01:06:37,091
Absolutely not.

1286
01:06:37,092 --> 01:06:38,225
I'm sorry,
I don't mean to upset you.

1287
01:06:38,226 --> 01:06:40,060
It's just that
your husband is Muslim

1288
01:06:40,061 --> 01:06:41,901
and the prosecution
will be looking for motive.

1289
01:06:42,030 --> 01:06:45,232
My motive was to stop a war

1290
01:06:45,233 --> 01:06:49,669
and save lives. I failed.

1291
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:52,640
All I've managed to do is put
my husband's future at risk.

1292
01:06:52,641 --> 01:06:54,408
And your own.

1293
01:06:54,409 --> 01:06:56,076
In fact, by leaking information

1294
01:06:56,077 --> 01:06:57,846
to try and stop a war, I'd argue

1295
01:06:57,847 --> 01:06:59,327
that you chose loyalty
to your country

1296
01:07:00,014 --> 01:07:04,319
over loyalty
to your government,
your marriage and yourself.

1297
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,590
You had nothing to gain
and everything to lose.

1298
01:07:08,590 --> 01:07:11,126
I think that speaks
rather highly of you.

1299
01:07:12,126 --> 01:07:15,296
He's trying
to give you a compliment.

1300
01:07:15,297 --> 01:07:16,264
I see.

1301
01:07:16,265 --> 01:07:18,332
Part of our job
is to try and anticipate

1302
01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:21,535
what the prosecution's
going to throw at you.

1303
01:07:21,536 --> 01:07:24,339
Some of the people we meet
are looking for attention,

1304
01:07:24,340 --> 01:07:26,640
a way to elevate
their humdrum lives.

1305
01:07:26,641 --> 01:07:28,141
Well, I'm not.

1306
01:07:28,142 --> 01:07:29,382
No, I don't think you are.

1307
01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:34,349
Sorry.

1308
01:07:34,350 --> 01:07:36,618
There's nothing to be sorry for.

1309
01:07:36,619 --> 01:07:38,486
We're here to help.

1310
01:07:41,289 --> 01:07:42,890
And we don't have duress.

1311
01:07:42,891 --> 01:07:46,727
She's adamant
no outside agency
put any pressure on her.

1312
01:07:46,728 --> 01:07:48,462
Public interest?

1313
01:07:48,463 --> 01:07:50,964
The public has
a right to know when
their government is lying.

1314
01:07:50,965 --> 01:07:52,933
We cite the Falklands case

1315
01:07:52,934 --> 01:07:54,602
when Thatcher lied
about why she ordered

1316
01:07:54,603 --> 01:07:56,270
the sinking
of that Argentinian ship.

1317
01:07:56,271 --> 01:07:57,271
<i>Belgrano.</i>

1318
01:07:56,271 --> 01:07:57,571
Yeah.

1319
01:07:57,572 --> 01:07:59,072
Who was the whistleblower?

1320
01:07:59,073 --> 01:08:00,073
Clive Ponting.

1321
01:08:00,074 --> 01:08:01,375
The jury acquitted him,
didn't they?

1322
01:08:01,376 --> 01:08:02,643
Yes, and immediately afterwards,

1323
01:08:02,644 --> 01:08:04,611
Thatcher had
the Official Secrets Act
amended

1324
01:08:04,612 --> 01:08:06,446
to avoid being
caught in a lie
in the future.

1325
01:08:06,447 --> 01:08:08,716
So since '89,
the public interest is

1326
01:08:08,717 --> 01:08:11,654
effectively whatever
the government says
that it is.

1327
01:08:12,654 --> 01:08:14,321
We've got nothing.

1328
01:08:14,322 --> 01:08:16,224
I have to think about it.

1329
01:08:16,225 --> 01:08:18,526
Sorry, I have to go.

1330
01:08:18,527 --> 01:08:20,264
I promised Anne a weekend away.

1331
01:08:22,264 --> 01:08:24,965
If they charge her,
we might have
to plead guilty

1332
01:08:24,966 --> 01:08:26,466
and ask for a reduced sentence.

1333
01:08:26,467 --> 01:08:28,736
But she's young and principled.

1334
01:08:28,737 --> 01:08:31,337
A judge might even think
that what she did
was morally right.

1335
01:08:31,338 --> 01:08:33,810
Or crucify her as a traitor.

1336
01:08:35,810 --> 01:08:36,810
Bye.

1337
01:09:04,372 --> 01:09:05,872
You sure he was following you?

1338
01:09:05,873 --> 01:09:07,375
He was staring at me.

1339
01:09:07,376 --> 01:09:08,442
Sometimes men stare...

1340
01:09:08,443 --> 01:09:09,544
Yeah, it wasn't
that kind of a stare.

1341
01:09:09,545 --> 01:09:10,665
What kind of a stare was it?

1342
01:09:11,011 --> 01:09:14,113
Yas, please,
I'm scared. Okay?

1343
01:09:14,114 --> 01:09:15,185
I'm scared.

1344
01:09:17,185 --> 01:09:19,487
You know, for years,
I've tried to be legal here.

1345
01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:21,488
I know.

1346
01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:21,054
Then why'd you do it?

1347
01:09:21,055 --> 01:09:23,291
These arseholes got
their war, anyway.

1348
01:09:23,292 --> 01:09:25,126
Saddam's over.
And you know what?

1349
01:09:25,127 --> 01:09:26,127
I'm glad he's over!

1350
01:09:26,128 --> 01:09:27,261
War is not over.

1351
01:09:27,262 --> 01:09:28,795
Ousting Saddam
is just the beginning.

1352
01:09:28,796 --> 01:09:30,296
What do you know about war?

1353
01:09:30,297 --> 01:09:31,465
I work at GCHQ.

1354
01:09:31,466 --> 01:09:33,634
All you do is listen
to people talking!

1355
01:09:33,635 --> 01:09:36,403
You've never seen war!
You've never smelled it!

1356
01:09:36,404 --> 01:09:37,603
Never even come close to it!

1357
01:09:37,604 --> 01:09:39,941
Yas, I understand
why you are angry.

1358
01:09:39,942 --> 01:09:42,175
It is my fault and I'm sorry.

1359
01:09:42,176 --> 01:09:44,077
I am so sorry.

1360
01:09:44,078 --> 01:09:49,050
But I watched Blair
with his smug smile

1361
01:09:49,051 --> 01:09:51,818
and his sterile speeches
that tell us nothing

1362
01:09:51,819 --> 01:09:55,855
of what it must feel
like to be a child
in Iraq right now.

1363
01:09:55,856 --> 01:09:58,492
I know I'm not sorry
that I tried to stop him.

1364
01:09:58,493 --> 01:09:59,561
I'm not.

1365
01:10:00,561 --> 01:10:02,830
I'm only sorry that I failed.

1366
01:10:10,639 --> 01:10:13,840
Thank you for inviting us in.

1367
01:10:13,841 --> 01:10:15,108
What is it you came to say?

1368
01:10:15,109 --> 01:10:18,879
Well, there's been
a development.

1369
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,380
Am I going to be charged?

1370
01:10:20,381 --> 01:10:21,549
That I don't know.

1371
01:10:21,550 --> 01:10:23,685
Then why are you here?

1372
01:10:24,685 --> 01:10:27,120
I gather you went to see
a lawyer today.

1373
01:10:27,121 --> 01:10:28,121
Did you follow me?

1374
01:10:27,121 --> 01:10:28,456
No.

1375
01:10:28,457 --> 01:10:29,590
Because somebody did.

1376
01:10:29,591 --> 01:10:31,358
Well, you must know
that after what you did,

1377
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:33,193
GCHQ is concerned.

1378
01:10:33,194 --> 01:10:35,763
I have a right to legal advice.

1379
01:10:35,764 --> 01:10:39,666
Unfortunately,
it's not as simple as that.

1380
01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:42,435
When you signed on
to work for GCHQ,

1381
01:10:42,436 --> 01:10:45,438
you agreed to be bound
by the Official Secrets Act

1382
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,541
for the rest of your life.

1383
01:10:47,542 --> 01:10:49,510
I know what I signed, detective.

1384
01:10:49,511 --> 01:10:54,247
Mm, then you know
that it says here

1385
01:10:54,248 --> 01:10:56,649
in Section 1-1

1386
01:10:56,650 --> 01:10:59,219
that "a person is
guilty of an offense

1387
01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:02,556
"if he or she

1388
01:11:02,557 --> 01:11:04,657
"discloses any information

1389
01:11:04,658 --> 01:11:08,461
"relating to security
or intelligence."

1390
01:11:08,462 --> 01:11:12,099
This means that you cannot
discuss anything

1391
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,103
with anyone outside of GCHQ

1392
01:11:15,104 --> 01:11:17,373
relating to
the document you leaked.

1393
01:11:19,373 --> 01:11:21,642
Are you saying
I can't talk to a lawyer?

1394
01:11:21,643 --> 01:11:23,678
Oh, you have the right
to talk to a lawyer.

1395
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:25,612
It's just that
you cannot discuss

1396
01:11:25,613 --> 01:11:29,149
anything to do with
your work at GCHQ,

1397
01:11:29,150 --> 01:11:31,117
or the contents
of the memo you leaked,

1398
01:11:31,118 --> 01:11:33,321
or how it came
into your possession

1399
01:11:33,322 --> 01:11:34,322
or who wrote it.

1400
01:11:36,190 --> 01:11:39,326
All of this information
is top secret.

1401
01:11:39,327 --> 01:11:42,429
So disclosing it
to anyone outside of GCHQ,

1402
01:11:42,430 --> 01:11:44,564
even a lawyer,

1403
01:11:44,565 --> 01:11:48,368
would be a further violation
of the Official Secrets Act,

1404
01:11:48,369 --> 01:11:51,671
which could result
in further prosecution

1405
01:11:51,672 --> 01:11:54,546
and a much longer
prison sentence.

1406
01:11:57,546 --> 01:12:00,184
We just wanted
you to be aware of that.

1407
01:12:02,184 --> 01:12:06,519
So if I may not
talk to a lawyer,
who may I talk to?

1408
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,288
You should talk to
your superiors at GCHQ.

1409
01:12:09,289 --> 01:12:10,789
Are you fucking joking?

1410
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:12,859
Yas, please. Please.

1411
01:12:12,860 --> 01:12:15,595
We should hear what
the detectives have to say.

1412
01:12:15,596 --> 01:12:17,536
They're just doing their job.

1413
01:12:20,536 --> 01:12:25,572
Simply put, if you wish
to tell anything to a lawyer

1414
01:12:25,573 --> 01:12:28,409
or the press or anyone else...

1415
01:12:29,409 --> 01:12:32,184
...you first need to
clear it with GCHQ.

1416
01:12:36,184 --> 01:12:37,587
Detective...

1417
01:12:38,587 --> 01:12:41,554
I leaked only one memo.

1418
01:12:41,555 --> 01:12:42,889
I had good reason to do so

1419
01:12:42,890 --> 01:12:46,193
and I intend to make
those reasons public

1420
01:12:46,194 --> 01:12:48,764
if I am charged.

1421
01:12:49,764 --> 01:12:51,898
I will not talk
to my lawyers again

1422
01:12:51,899 --> 01:12:54,537
unless I am charged.

1423
01:12:55,537 --> 01:12:57,545
Tell that to GCHQ.

1424
01:13:03,545 --> 01:13:05,045
Are you grilling
or smoking that fish?

1425
01:13:05,046 --> 01:13:08,148
I am smoking.
I've soaked the
wood chips in water.

1426
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:09,250
I've got charcoal.

1427
01:13:09,251 --> 01:13:12,219
I'm... I'm trying
something new.

1428
01:13:12,220 --> 01:13:13,220
Hi.

1429
01:13:13,221 --> 01:13:14,889
Ken?

1430
01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:16,890
Hi.

1431
01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:16,322
Hi, Ken.

1432
01:13:16,323 --> 01:13:19,323
Guess you're down here
for the weekend.

1433
01:13:16,323 --> 01:13:19,292
Yes. Just for the night.

1434
01:13:19,293 --> 01:13:20,827
Yeah, me too.
It's been a while.

1435
01:13:20,828 --> 01:13:23,429
Mm-hmm. Would you, uh...
Do you want a drink?

1436
01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:26,233
Uh, no, thanks.
Sally's cooking dinner.

1437
01:13:26,234 --> 01:13:27,234
Hello, Anne.

1438
01:13:27,235 --> 01:13:28,669
Hi.

1439
01:13:28,670 --> 01:13:30,170
I'm so sorry to intrude.

1440
01:13:30,171 --> 01:13:31,938
Oh, not at all.

1441
01:13:31,939 --> 01:13:33,706
How's the new job?

1442
01:13:33,707 --> 01:13:37,611
Well, it's, um, eye-opening.

1443
01:13:37,612 --> 01:13:41,348
In fact, I wondered
if I might ask Ben's opinion

1444
01:13:41,349 --> 01:13:44,952
about a new case
that my office has been
asked to prosecute.

1445
01:13:44,953 --> 01:13:48,389
It won't take a minute.
Would you mind?

1446
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:50,390
How do you know that I met her?

1447
01:13:50,391 --> 01:13:53,160
Security services
are all over this.

1448
01:13:53,161 --> 01:13:54,394
Mm-hmm.

1449
01:13:54,395 --> 01:13:56,296
And it's not just
a domestic embarrassment.

1450
01:13:56,297 --> 01:13:57,665
The Americans are very unhappy.

1451
01:13:57,666 --> 01:13:59,166
Oh, well, that is upsetting.

1452
01:13:59,167 --> 01:14:02,437
Oh, come on, Ben,
it's not funny.

1453
01:14:02,438 --> 01:14:05,471
What she did was
a deliberate act
of betrayal.

1454
01:14:05,472 --> 01:14:07,773
Look, Ken, we're not
colleagues anymore.

1455
01:14:07,774 --> 01:14:09,175
We're on different sides here.

1456
01:14:09,176 --> 01:14:13,781
I think she wants
to be seen as some
sort of cause celebre.

1457
01:14:13,782 --> 01:14:17,984
But she swore allegiance
to the intelligence services

1458
01:14:17,985 --> 01:14:20,319
and when you do that
you don't get to
pick and choose

1459
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:21,621
what orders you'll follow.

1460
01:14:21,622 --> 01:14:23,991
Following orders
is not a defense
to a war crime.

1461
01:14:23,992 --> 01:14:28,228
Yes, but who is she
to undermine
the strategic objectives

1462
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:31,229
of a democratically-elected
Prime Minister.

1463
01:14:31,198 --> 01:14:34,401
Oh, come on,
she's not selling
state secrets to Moscow.

1464
01:14:34,402 --> 01:14:36,670
She exposed an illegal attempt

1465
01:14:36,671 --> 01:14:38,006
to secure
a UN resolution for war

1466
01:14:39,006 --> 01:14:40,773
which would have
given Blair perfect cover

1467
01:14:40,774 --> 01:14:42,341
for the bloody mess
that we're in now.

1468
01:14:42,342 --> 01:14:44,511
No, she should have
kept her mouth shut

1469
01:14:44,512 --> 01:14:46,746
or complained to her superiors.

1470
01:14:46,747 --> 01:14:48,314
Now I've got
a real problem with people

1471
01:14:48,315 --> 01:14:50,416
who think that
from some lowly position

1472
01:14:50,417 --> 01:14:52,086
they can possibly see
the big picture.

1473
01:14:52,087 --> 01:14:53,886
So then you would
never question authority

1474
01:14:53,887 --> 01:14:55,656
even if you knew
it was breaking the law.

1475
01:14:55,657 --> 01:14:58,559
Ben, you can't blame me
for being angry with her.

1476
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,926
We're at war.

1477
01:14:59,927 --> 01:15:02,129
So, I'm going to assign
the best prosecutor
in my office

1478
01:15:02,130 --> 01:15:04,598
to bring this girl down,
which shouldn't be difficult.

1479
01:15:04,599 --> 01:15:05,666
She's already confessed.

1480
01:15:05,667 --> 01:15:07,600
I appreciate your determination

1481
01:15:07,601 --> 01:15:11,507
to make an example of her,
but you shouldn't be here.

1482
01:15:13,507 --> 01:15:14,974
Oh, come on, we're friends.

1483
01:15:14,975 --> 01:15:17,111
I'll make my position
perfectly clear.

1484
01:15:17,112 --> 01:15:19,546
If you charge her,
then I will defend her

1485
01:15:19,547 --> 01:15:21,751
to the best of my ability.

1486
01:15:23,751 --> 01:15:24,984
So let's go home and pretend

1487
01:15:24,985 --> 01:15:27,622
that this conversation
never happened.

1488
01:16:00,622 --> 01:16:02,922
You're not working today?

1489
01:16:02,923 --> 01:16:06,662
No. I have to sign in
at the station.

1490
01:16:08,662 --> 01:16:10,662
Then we can go for a hike.

1491
01:16:10,663 --> 01:16:12,644
I want to see the sea.

1492
01:16:25,546 --> 01:16:26,546
Leave it.

1493
01:16:33,121 --> 01:16:35,889
<i>Hi, we're not in.
Please leave a message.</i>

1494
01:16:35,890 --> 01:16:39,526
<i>Katharine,
it's James Welch from Liberty.</i>

1495
01:16:39,527 --> 01:16:41,295
<i>Uh, we should talk.</i>

1496
01:16:41,296 --> 01:16:44,430
<i>Could give me a call
when you get the message?</i>

1497
01:16:44,431 --> 01:16:46,133
Hello?

1498
01:16:46,134 --> 01:16:48,868
<i>Oh, ah, Katharine.</i>

1499
01:16:48,869 --> 01:16:51,837
<i>I'm afraid I have some bad news.</i>

1500
01:16:51,838 --> 01:16:54,041
Uh, James, you know that

1501
01:16:54,042 --> 01:16:56,041
GCHQ said I
couldn't talk to you.

1502
01:16:56,042 --> 01:16:57,611
<i>Oh, then, well, the good news is</i>

1503
01:16:57,612 --> 01:16:59,880
<i>we finally had
the gag order lifted.</i>

1504
01:16:59,881 --> 01:17:01,281
<i>We've agreed to not
ask any questions</i>

1505
01:17:01,282 --> 01:17:04,216
<i>about what other work
you did at GCHQ.</i>

1506
01:17:04,217 --> 01:17:07,957
<i>But what happens going forward
isn't up to them.</i>

1507
01:17:08,957 --> 01:17:10,157
<i>Your case is now in the hands</i>

1508
01:17:10,158 --> 01:17:12,462
<i>of the Crown Prosecution
Service.</i>

1509
01:17:15,462 --> 01:17:17,635
<i>They're going to charge you.</i>

1510
01:17:20,635 --> 01:17:22,707
<i>We should meet next week.</i>

1511
01:17:25,707 --> 01:17:27,707
<i>Katharine?</i>

1512
01:17:25,707 --> 01:17:27,143
Yes. Uh...

1513
01:17:29,143 --> 01:17:30,979
Okay. Yeah.

1514
01:17:31,979 --> 01:17:34,413
<i>I know that this is
a lot to take in,</i>

1515
01:17:34,414 --> 01:17:35,648
<i>but we will help you.</i>

1516
01:17:35,649 --> 01:17:37,052
Thank you.

1517
01:17:39,052 --> 01:17:40,052
<i>Okay.</i>

1518
01:17:39,052 --> 01:17:40,720
Thank you very much, James.

1519
01:17:40,721 --> 01:17:41,721
<i>Speak soon.</i>

1520
01:17:47,028 --> 01:17:50,096
"GCHQ whistleblower charged."

1521
01:17:50,097 --> 01:17:51,465
"Traitor or spy?"

1522
01:17:51,466 --> 01:17:52,867
"Spy speaks out."

1523
01:17:52,868 --> 01:17:54,734
"The spy who wouldn't
keep a secret."

1524
01:17:54,735 --> 01:17:57,270
"Who is Katharine Gun?"

1525
01:17:57,271 --> 01:17:59,872
"Leak against this war."

1526
01:17:59,873 --> 01:18:01,841
She's everywhere.

1527
01:18:01,842 --> 01:18:03,011
What's your angle?

1528
01:18:04,011 --> 01:18:05,515
Look.

1529
01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:08,247
"Katharine Gun faces jail
for exposing

1530
01:18:08,248 --> 01:18:10,451
"American corruption
in the run-up to war.

1531
01:18:10,452 --> 01:18:12,752
"Now her
celebrity supporters insist

1532
01:18:12,753 --> 01:18:15,121
"it is Bush and Blair
who should be in the dock."

1533
01:18:15,122 --> 01:18:16,122
Celebrity supporters?

1534
01:18:16,123 --> 01:18:17,124
Mm.

1535
01:18:17,125 --> 01:18:19,091
Little tabloidy,
don't you think?

1536
01:18:19,092 --> 01:18:21,961
Hey, we're building awareness.
How about Daniel Ellsberg?

1537
01:18:21,962 --> 01:18:23,831
He leaked the Pentagon Papers.

1538
01:18:23,832 --> 01:18:25,465
I know who Ellsberg is, Martin.

1539
01:18:25,466 --> 01:18:27,033
Of course you do.
Forgive me.

1540
01:18:27,034 --> 01:18:30,403
Well, Ellsberg
described it as...

1541
01:18:30,404 --> 01:18:32,524
"The most important
and courageous leak
I've ever seen.

1542
01:18:33,006 --> 01:18:34,642
"No one else has ever done
what she did.

1543
01:18:34,643 --> 01:18:36,911
"Tell secret truths
at personal risks

1544
01:18:36,912 --> 01:18:40,813
"before an imminent war,
in time, possibly,
to avert it."

1545
01:18:40,814 --> 01:18:43,425
Okay, that's classy.

1546
01:18:50,425 --> 01:18:51,448
I'll be quick.

1547
01:19:17,519 --> 01:19:19,051
Are you waiting
for the tall man?

1548
01:19:19,052 --> 01:19:20,052
The dark-haired one?

1549
01:19:19,052 --> 01:19:20,955
Yeah.

1550
01:19:20,956 --> 01:19:23,355
He was shouting
that his wife was outside.

1551
01:19:23,356 --> 01:19:24,356
They took him.

1552
01:19:23,356 --> 01:19:24,858
What?

1553
01:19:24,859 --> 01:19:26,238
They took him.

1554
01:19:37,238 --> 01:19:38,105
Where is he?

1555
01:19:38,106 --> 01:19:39,839
Sorry. Who are you?

1556
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,774
I'm Yasar Gun's wife.
Where's my husband?

1557
01:19:41,775 --> 01:19:45,081
I'm sorry, ma'am.
He's scheduled
for deportation.

1558
01:19:46,081 --> 01:19:46,081
What?

1559
01:19:46,947 --> 01:19:48,747
No. No, no. Uh, no, no.

1560
01:19:48,748 --> 01:19:50,548
Look, look, there's been
some sort of mistake.

1561
01:19:51,019 --> 01:19:52,986
I need to see my husband
right now.

1562
01:19:52,987 --> 01:19:54,890
I'm afraid that's not possible.

1563
01:19:55,890 --> 01:19:57,624
You can't go in there!

1564
01:19:57,625 --> 01:19:59,559
Please. Please,
please, please, please.

1565
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:00,926
Let me see him, please.

1566
01:20:00,927 --> 01:20:02,129
Please, he doesn't
have anything with him.

1567
01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:03,429
He doesn't even have any money.

1568
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:06,398
I'm sorry.
They've already taken him.

1569
01:20:06,399 --> 01:20:08,468
<i> No, no.
They won't say where.</i>

1570
01:20:08,469 --> 01:20:10,569
I don't know. Oh, God, James,
I don't know what to do.

1571
01:20:10,570 --> 01:20:13,172
<i> Katharine,
I'm so sorry.
I'm at the Hague.</i>

1572
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:14,173
<i>Who's your MP?</i>

1573
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:14,974
I don't know.

1574
01:20:14,975 --> 01:20:16,975
<i>Is it Nigel Jones?</i>

1575
01:20:14,975 --> 01:20:16,876
Nigel Jones, yes. Yeah.

1576
01:20:16,877 --> 01:20:18,112
<i>Do you have
your marriage certificate?</i>

1577
01:20:18,113 --> 01:20:19,113
Uh, yeah, yeah, somewhere.

1578
01:20:18,113 --> 01:20:19,645
<i>Right.</i>

1579
01:20:19,646 --> 01:20:22,181
<i>Find it and
I'll track Nigel down.</i>

1580
01:20:22,182 --> 01:20:23,450
Of course they're
legally married,
Beverly.

1581
01:20:23,451 --> 01:20:25,318
I'm holding their
marriage certificate.

1582
01:20:25,319 --> 01:20:26,553
<i> I'm sorry,
but his application</i>

1583
01:20:26,554 --> 01:20:28,554
<i>to remain in this country
has been denied.</i>

1584
01:20:28,555 --> 01:20:29,656
Mistakenly.

1585
01:20:29,657 --> 01:20:31,157
He's complied
with every directive

1586
01:20:31,158 --> 01:20:32,259
your department's issued.

1587
01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:34,193
<i>Nigel, your constituent
is accused</i>

1588
01:20:34,194 --> 01:20:35,627
<i>of betraying her country.</i>

1589
01:20:35,628 --> 01:20:37,697
<i>Do you really think we should
be helping her husband?</i>

1590
01:20:37,698 --> 01:20:40,501
I think deporting her husband
when she's facing a trial

1591
01:20:40,502 --> 01:20:43,073
looks like state bullying.

1592
01:20:46,073 --> 01:20:48,774
<i>All right,
I'll review his paperwork.</i>

1593
01:20:48,775 --> 01:20:50,411
Thank you.

1594
01:20:50,412 --> 01:20:53,412
And please make sure
he's not flown out tonight.

1595
01:20:55,182 --> 01:20:57,651
I'm sorry.
Best I can do for now.

1596
01:20:57,652 --> 01:21:00,819
I promise I will pick this up
first thing tomorrow.

1597
01:21:00,820 --> 01:21:02,456
Hello?

1598
01:21:02,457 --> 01:21:04,617
<i> We tracked him
to Harmondsworth
Detention Center.</i>

1599
01:21:05,025 --> 01:21:07,461
<i>It's a deportation center
at Heathrow Airport</i>

1600
01:21:07,462 --> 01:21:09,261
<i>right off the M-25.</i>

1601
01:21:09,262 --> 01:21:11,197
<i>Go to the main gate
and wait there.</i>

1602
01:21:11,198 --> 01:21:12,599
<i> Uh, are they
gonna release him?</i>

1603
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,102
<i> We have ministerial
approval but no paperwork yet.</i>

1604
01:21:15,103 --> 01:21:16,736
<i>There is a possibility</i>

1605
01:21:16,737 --> 01:21:18,938
<i>he's already
been put on a plane.</i>

1606
01:21:18,939 --> 01:21:20,939
What?

1607
01:21:18,939 --> 01:21:20,306
<i>Yeah, I'm checking.</i>

1608
01:21:20,307 --> 01:21:21,974
<i>Just get there
as soon as you can.</i>

1609
01:21:21,975 --> 01:21:25,981
Out you go.
Let's go. Move it.

1610
01:21:27,981 --> 01:21:30,183
This is a mistake, sir.

1611
01:21:30,184 --> 01:21:31,184
This is a mistake.

1612
01:21:31,185 --> 01:21:32,587
Come on.

1613
01:21:33,587 --> 01:21:35,589
Please.

1614
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:38,327
I need to call my wife.
I must call my wife!

1615
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:05,719
Next in line.

1616
01:22:29,443 --> 01:22:30,814
Hello?

1617
01:22:35,617 --> 01:22:36,621
Hello?

1618
01:22:44,759 --> 01:22:45,860
Yeah?

1619
01:22:46,860 --> 01:22:48,461
James, James, um,

1620
01:22:48,462 --> 01:22:50,897
I don't know if I'm
even at the right place.

1621
01:22:50,898 --> 01:22:52,933
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know,
but it's 4:00 a.m.

1622
01:22:52,934 --> 01:22:55,401
There's nobody to talk to.

1623
01:22:55,402 --> 01:22:58,774
Wait, wait.
Someone's coming. Wait.

1624
01:22:59,774 --> 01:23:01,310
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.

1625
01:23:03,310 --> 01:23:05,178
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

1626
01:23:05,179 --> 01:23:06,179
It's all right.

1627
01:23:05,179 --> 01:23:06,345
You okay?

1628
01:23:06,346 --> 01:23:07,346
I'm okay.

1629
01:23:06,346 --> 01:23:07,413
Are you okay?

1630
01:23:07,414 --> 01:23:08,414
You're okay?

1631
01:23:08,415 --> 01:23:09,457
Yeah, yeah.

1632
01:23:16,457 --> 01:23:17,924
If they try and pull
anything like that again,

1633
01:23:17,925 --> 01:23:18,925
then I want to go public.

1634
01:23:19,025 --> 01:23:20,025
Not a good idea.

1635
01:23:19,025 --> 01:23:20,559
Why not?

1636
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,961
Because people are fickle.
Many will hate you.

1637
01:23:22,962 --> 01:23:24,797
Your personal lives
will be picked apart,

1638
01:23:24,798 --> 01:23:26,398
your marriage
will be interrogated.

1639
01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:28,268
In fact, we think
it will be best

1640
01:23:28,269 --> 01:23:31,203
if Yasar was kept
well out of this.

1641
01:23:31,204 --> 01:23:33,141
You should probably
not attend the trial.

1642
01:23:35,141 --> 01:23:36,141
I understand.

1643
01:23:36,142 --> 01:23:37,977
What? No.

1644
01:23:37,978 --> 01:23:40,145
<i>Janum,</i> we both know
the jury will prefer

1645
01:23:40,146 --> 01:23:41,880
an English girl without
an immigrant husband.

1646
01:23:41,881 --> 01:23:43,215
You know what?
That is ridiculous.

1647
01:23:43,216 --> 01:23:45,652
We are married and we have
nothing to be ashamed of.

1648
01:23:45,653 --> 01:23:47,420
The shame is on them, not you.

1649
01:23:47,421 --> 01:23:51,325
You don't need to risk
your freedom to prove it.

1650
01:23:51,326 --> 01:23:54,126
We should discuss
how you'll plead.

1651
01:23:54,127 --> 01:23:55,327
Not guilty.

1652
01:23:55,328 --> 01:23:57,430
But you understand
you confessed.

1653
01:23:57,431 --> 01:24:00,901
I confessed that
I leaked a memo in order
to try and save lives.

1654
01:24:00,902 --> 01:24:05,505
And we will use that argument
to ask for a reduced sentence.

1655
01:24:05,506 --> 01:24:08,474
If you do plead guilty,
there will be no jury.

1656
01:24:08,475 --> 01:24:10,844
You could be out of jail
in less than six months.

1657
01:24:10,845 --> 01:24:12,478
Given how badly
the war is going,

1658
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,880
we think a judge
is likely to be sympathetic.

1659
01:24:14,881 --> 01:24:17,216
But I'd have a criminal record.

1660
01:24:17,217 --> 01:24:18,550
That is true.

1661
01:24:18,551 --> 01:24:21,188
Which I would carry with me
for the rest of my life

1662
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:22,788
into every job interview,

1663
01:24:22,789 --> 01:24:23,956
every application for credit.

1664
01:24:23,957 --> 01:24:25,957
Yes.

1665
01:24:23,957 --> 01:24:25,858
And I'm sorry.

1666
01:24:25,859 --> 01:24:28,594
We would be conceding

1667
01:24:28,595 --> 01:24:31,864
that no one in Intelligence
can ever tell
the British people

1668
01:24:31,865 --> 01:24:33,567
when their government is lying.

1669
01:24:33,568 --> 01:24:35,035
Not when
the lies are protected

1670
01:24:35,036 --> 01:24:37,403
by the Official Secrets Act, no.

1671
01:24:37,404 --> 01:24:38,737
I'm sorry.
This is all a charade.

1672
01:24:38,738 --> 01:24:40,573
I mean, if you're saying
that I have to plead guilty

1673
01:24:40,574 --> 01:24:43,343
because the act allows
absolutely no defense
whatsoever,

1674
01:24:43,344 --> 01:24:45,746
then the very idea
of a fair trial is a joke.

1675
01:24:45,747 --> 01:24:47,480
I'm sorry, Katharine,

1676
01:24:47,481 --> 01:24:51,484
but the best we can do
is ask a judge
for leniency.

1677
01:24:51,485 --> 01:24:54,252
Post<i> Belgrano,</i> there
really is no defense

1678
01:24:54,253 --> 01:24:55,788
to a breach of
the Official Secrets Act...

1679
01:24:55,789 --> 01:24:57,659
Except perhaps one.

1680
01:24:58,659 --> 01:25:00,294
Katharine said it herself.

1681
01:25:00,295 --> 01:25:02,996
She leaked the memo
to try to save lives.

1682
01:25:02,997 --> 01:25:04,429
But she still broke the law.

1683
01:25:04,430 --> 01:25:06,733
Yes, but there are
circumstances where
you can break the law.

1684
01:25:06,734 --> 01:25:09,536
It's only in situations
of absolute necessity...

1685
01:25:09,537 --> 01:25:11,537
Necessity. Exactly.

1686
01:25:09,537 --> 01:25:11,006
Ben, you're reaching.

1687
01:25:12,006 --> 01:25:15,309
Am I? What are
the requirements for
a defense of necessity?

1688
01:25:15,310 --> 01:25:17,344
Imminent threat to your life
or the lives of others.

1689
01:25:17,345 --> 01:25:19,947
Yeah, and no other reasonable
way to prevent loss of life.

1690
01:25:19,948 --> 01:25:21,514
Yes, right, well,
the invasion posed

1691
01:25:21,515 --> 01:25:23,616
an imminent threat
to thousands of lives.

1692
01:25:23,617 --> 01:25:25,551
Katharine has no right
to try and prevent a war

1693
01:25:25,552 --> 01:25:26,819
authorized by
the Attorney General.

1694
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:28,820
Unless the war is illegal.

1695
01:25:28,821 --> 01:25:30,189
What?

1696
01:25:30,190 --> 01:25:33,425
Wait, wait, so now we're going
to put the war on trial?

1697
01:25:33,426 --> 01:25:34,594
Yes.

1698
01:25:34,595 --> 01:25:39,064
I believe that Katharine Gun
tried to stop an illegal war.

1699
01:25:39,065 --> 01:25:40,767
What she did was necessary

1700
01:25:40,768 --> 01:25:44,136
to try to save
thousands of British-American
and Iraqi lives.

1701
01:25:44,137 --> 01:25:47,239
And Goldsmith
specifically stated

1702
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,741
that the invasion was legal.

1703
01:25:48,742 --> 01:25:51,611
He said so only three days
before the invasion.

1704
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:52,932
What was his position
before that?

1705
01:25:53,014 --> 01:25:55,782
What was his advice
at the time Katharine
leaked the memo?

1706
01:25:55,783 --> 01:25:57,783
Well, we have no idea.

1707
01:25:55,783 --> 01:25:57,649
Well, I'd like to find out.

1708
01:25:57,650 --> 01:25:59,285
Because Blair spent
a lot of energy

1709
01:25:59,286 --> 01:26:01,888
trying to secure
a new UN resolution.

1710
01:26:01,889 --> 01:26:03,122
I suppose.

1711
01:26:03,123 --> 01:26:05,291
When Lord Goldsmith finally said

1712
01:26:05,292 --> 01:26:08,862
the war was legal,
his deputy legal advisor
resigned.

1713
01:26:08,863 --> 01:26:10,662
Yes, Elizabeth Wilmshurst.
Yeah, that's right.

1714
01:26:10,663 --> 01:26:12,663
She resigned. Yes, yes.

1715
01:26:10,663 --> 01:26:12,197
But she didn't say why.

1716
01:26:12,198 --> 01:26:13,733
She couldn't.

1717
01:26:13,734 --> 01:26:15,702
If she did,
she'd be charged under
the Official Secrets Act.

1718
01:26:15,703 --> 01:26:17,903
So I need to get a meeting
with Elizabeth Wilmshurst.

1719
01:26:17,904 --> 01:26:19,904
She's not gonna go public.

1720
01:26:17,904 --> 01:26:19,872
She doesn't have to.

1721
01:26:19,873 --> 01:26:21,107
All we need is a hint

1722
01:26:21,108 --> 01:26:23,943
that Goldsmith
changed his mind
about the legality of the war.

1723
01:26:23,944 --> 01:26:27,880
I'm sorry, Ben.
There are two ways
they could justify war.

1724
01:26:27,881 --> 01:26:30,881
We've only addressed one.

1725
01:26:27,881 --> 01:26:30,148
So what am I missing?

1726
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:31,149
Self-defense.

1727
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:31,617
Oh, come on.

1728
01:26:31,618 --> 01:26:33,553
Does anyone honestly believe
that this country

1729
01:26:33,554 --> 01:26:35,322
was about to be attacked
by Iraq?

1730
01:26:35,323 --> 01:26:37,624
I do agree, but that's why
they trotted out Powell.

1731
01:26:37,625 --> 01:26:39,625
To make the case for WMDs.

1732
01:26:37,625 --> 01:26:39,858
Oh.

1733
01:26:39,859 --> 01:26:41,661
If it's true that Iraq
has weapons of
mass destruction

1734
01:26:41,662 --> 01:26:44,296
that pose an imminent threat
to this country,

1735
01:26:44,297 --> 01:26:48,268
the war is legal
without a UN resolution.

1736
01:26:48,269 --> 01:26:49,602
How many people actually believe

1737
01:26:49,603 --> 01:26:51,504
Iraq still has weapons
of mass destruction?

1738
01:26:51,505 --> 01:26:52,973
Well,
they're still looking.

1739
01:26:52,974 --> 01:26:56,613
If we go down this route,
we better pray
none are found.

1740
01:26:58,613 --> 01:27:01,885
I'm gonna get
Elizabeth Wilmshurst's number.

1741
01:27:03,885 --> 01:27:06,586
You've put me
in a rather awkward position.

1742
01:27:06,587 --> 01:27:10,656
I'm sorry, but thank you
for seeing me.

1743
01:27:10,657 --> 01:27:13,725
I think what she did
took great courage.

1744
01:27:13,726 --> 01:27:17,563
And she was naive,
of course, but brave.

1745
01:27:17,564 --> 01:27:20,170
And you were
brave enough to resign.

1746
01:27:23,170 --> 01:27:26,339
But not to speak out in public.

1747
01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:29,742
If I had, I might have caused
more of a brouhaha.

1748
01:27:29,743 --> 01:27:31,611
Sparked a proper debate.

1749
01:27:31,612 --> 01:27:35,020
Can I ask you, uh,
how did you resign?

1750
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:41,756
I wrote a letter.

1751
01:27:42,756 --> 01:27:45,892
And in that letter,
did you give
a reason

1752
01:27:45,893 --> 01:27:47,926
for your resignation?

1753
01:27:47,927 --> 01:27:51,264
I restated my position
on the legality
of going to war.

1754
01:27:51,265 --> 01:27:53,131
Which was?

1755
01:27:53,132 --> 01:27:55,501
That it would
not be lawful to use force

1756
01:27:55,502 --> 01:27:58,871
without a new
Security Council resolution.

1757
01:27:58,872 --> 01:28:03,810
Um, did Goldsmith initially
support your view?

1758
01:28:04,810 --> 01:28:06,580
He did.

1759
01:28:06,581 --> 01:28:08,814
He told Blair that
if military action were taken,

1760
01:28:08,815 --> 01:28:10,983
he expected
the government to be accused

1761
01:28:10,984 --> 01:28:13,021
of acting unlawfully.

1762
01:28:15,021 --> 01:28:17,792
And was that a written opinion?

1763
01:28:18,792 --> 01:28:20,729
It was a detailed
advisory document.

1764
01:28:22,729 --> 01:28:26,064
Right, so then would that
have been his position

1765
01:28:26,065 --> 01:28:29,202
at the time that Katharine Gun
printed the Koza memo

1766
01:28:29,203 --> 01:28:30,240
on February 3?

1767
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:34,676
Yes.

1768
01:28:36,676 --> 01:28:38,646
And then he went to Washington.

1769
01:28:39,646 --> 01:28:41,081
Oh, really?

1770
01:28:41,082 --> 01:28:43,082
Well, who did he meet there?

1771
01:28:43,083 --> 01:28:45,854
I wasn't given details.

1772
01:28:46,854 --> 01:28:50,523
But after that trip,
his opinion changed.

1773
01:28:50,524 --> 01:28:53,660
In nine short paragraphs,
he said that

1774
01:28:53,661 --> 01:28:57,229
the UN's authorization
for the 1991 Gulf War

1775
01:28:57,230 --> 01:28:59,666
could be reactivated

1776
01:28:59,667 --> 01:29:02,102
to legitimize
a new war with Iraq.

1777
01:29:02,103 --> 01:29:05,403
He told the Prime Minister
what he wanted to hear?

1778
01:29:05,404 --> 01:29:07,540
At best, he was
persuaded to support

1779
01:29:07,541 --> 01:29:10,175
a really fringe point of view.

1780
01:29:10,176 --> 01:29:11,676
Oh, really fringe.

1781
01:29:11,677 --> 01:29:13,345
Yeah.

1782
01:29:19,118 --> 01:29:20,118
Martin Bright.

1783
01:29:19,118 --> 01:29:20,819
Martin.

1784
01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:22,820
Ben.

1785
01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:22,121
<i>Ben.</i>

1786
01:29:22,122 --> 01:29:23,555
I took
your whistleblower's case.

1787
01:29:23,556 --> 01:29:25,992
Yes, I heard.
Can I meet her?

1788
01:29:25,993 --> 01:29:28,461
No, not yet, Martin.
I don't want a media frenzy.

1789
01:29:28,462 --> 01:29:29,763
Okay. When she's ready.

1790
01:29:29,764 --> 01:29:31,997
Before some hack
tracks her down.

1791
01:29:31,998 --> 01:29:34,233
Come on, Ben,
I broke her story.
I'm on her side.

1792
01:29:34,234 --> 01:29:35,935
Well, you can help
by finding out

1793
01:29:35,936 --> 01:29:38,504
why the Attorney General
went to Washington

1794
01:29:38,505 --> 01:29:40,372
<i>just before the war started.</i>

1795
01:29:40,373 --> 01:29:42,876
Wait, Goldsmith went to DC?

1796
01:29:42,877 --> 01:29:44,577
<i>I'd like to know
who he met there.</i>

1797
01:29:44,578 --> 01:29:45,745
<i>Right. I'm on it.</i>

1798
01:29:45,746 --> 01:29:48,746
And how is Peter?

1799
01:29:45,746 --> 01:29:48,180
Peter is in Iraq.

1800
01:29:48,181 --> 01:29:50,483
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I've been reading
his articles.

1801
01:29:50,484 --> 01:29:52,751
Listen, if he hears anything,
even a hint

1802
01:29:52,752 --> 01:29:55,988
that Saddam really did have
weapons of mass destruction,

1803
01:29:55,989 --> 01:29:57,157
<i>then please call me.</i>

1804
01:29:57,158 --> 01:29:59,291
Of course. Can I ask why?

1805
01:29:59,292 --> 01:30:01,260
Well, let's just say
that if WMD are found,

1806
01:30:01,261 --> 01:30:04,563
then defending Katharine
will be a little more
complicated.

1807
01:30:04,564 --> 01:30:06,564
I'll get back to you.

1808
01:30:04,564 --> 01:30:06,398
<i>All right, thank you.</i>

1809
01:30:06,399 --> 01:30:07,935
Okay. Thank you. Bye.

1810
01:30:09,805 --> 01:30:11,636
There's thousands
of inspectors here

1811
01:30:11,637 --> 01:30:13,840
from the US Army,
the British Army

1812
01:30:13,841 --> 01:30:15,474
the CIA, FBI.

1813
01:30:15,475 --> 01:30:16,876
<i> And still nothing?</i>

1814
01:30:16,877 --> 01:30:20,211
No, no, not a fucking thing.
Nothing.

1815
01:30:20,212 --> 01:30:23,081
Anyway, some Polish troops
found a cache of
Sarin gas warheads

1816
01:30:23,082 --> 01:30:25,585
dating back
to the Iran-Iraq War,
but they were all empty.

1817
01:30:25,586 --> 01:30:27,319
<i>And right now, I'm standing
in a glass factory</i>

1818
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,728
and all they've found is piles
of silica sand and soda ash.

1819
01:30:33,728 --> 01:30:34,628
So, yeah.

1820
01:30:34,629 --> 01:30:36,563
<i>Things must be getting ugly
in Washington.</i>

1821
01:30:36,564 --> 01:30:38,764
Well, you should talk to Ed.

1822
01:30:38,765 --> 01:30:41,166
Maybe we could end up doing
a joint piece or something.

1823
01:30:42,869 --> 01:30:45,869
Peter, what was that?

1824
01:30:42,869 --> 01:30:45,304
<i>No, no, no.</i>

1825
01:30:45,305 --> 01:30:47,806
It's just our guys detonating
some conventional ordnance.

1826
01:30:47,807 --> 01:30:49,807
They don't wanna have...

1827
01:30:47,807 --> 01:30:49,408
<i>Jesus.</i>

1828
01:30:49,409 --> 01:30:52,211
...kids finding unexploded
shit in the rubble.

1829
01:30:52,212 --> 01:30:54,680
All right, talk soon.
Take care.

1830
01:30:54,681 --> 01:30:56,181
Yeah, all right, mate. Bye.

1831
01:30:57,618 --> 01:30:58,618
February 11.

1832
01:30:58,619 --> 01:30:59,986
<i> What?</i>

1833
01:30:59,987 --> 01:31:02,822
<i> Goldsmith's in DC
meeting with the attorneys</i>

1834
01:31:02,823 --> 01:31:04,991
for Bush, Powell,
Rumsfeld and Rice.

1835
01:31:04,992 --> 01:31:06,992
<i>Okay, hold on...</i>

1836
01:31:04,992 --> 01:31:06,152
But that's not the big story.

1837
01:31:07,027 --> 01:31:10,429
<i>The really big story is the OSP.</i>

1838
01:31:10,430 --> 01:31:11,997
The Office of Special Plans.

1839
01:31:11,998 --> 01:31:14,532
Turns out when
Bush wasn't getting
the intelligence he wanted,

1840
01:31:14,533 --> 01:31:17,370
Rumsfeld bypassed the CIA

1841
01:31:17,371 --> 01:31:19,772
<i>and set up his own
intelligence unit.</i>

1842
01:31:19,773 --> 01:31:22,073
They fed
raw unvetted intelligence

1843
01:31:22,074 --> 01:31:25,577
to Bush and Powell
who lied us into a war!

1844
01:31:25,578 --> 01:31:27,279
Yeah. Okay, Ed.
I appreciate that.

1845
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:28,715
But let's, first, try and help

1846
01:31:28,716 --> 01:31:30,549
a young woman
stay out of prison.

1847
01:31:30,550 --> 01:31:32,751
Uh, you said Goldsmith
met Bush's lawyers

1848
01:31:32,752 --> 01:31:34,821
on February 11.
Who were those lawyers?

1849
01:31:34,822 --> 01:31:36,688
"John Ashcroft,
Alberto Gonzales,

1850
01:31:36,689 --> 01:31:39,826
William Taft, Jim Haynes,
John Bellinger."

1851
01:31:39,827 --> 01:31:42,029
The attorneys for Bush,
Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice.

1852
01:31:43,029 --> 01:31:45,797
Wow. They really
turned up the heat.

1853
01:31:45,798 --> 01:31:48,800
You know, I almost
feel sorry for Goldsmith.

1854
01:31:48,801 --> 01:31:52,103
Don't. He fucking caved when
his country needed him most.

1855
01:31:52,104 --> 01:31:54,104
That's a great headline, mate.

1856
01:31:52,104 --> 01:31:54,474
<i>It bloody is.</i>

1857
01:31:54,475 --> 01:31:56,475
All right.

1858
01:31:54,475 --> 01:31:56,076
<i>Print it.</i>

1859
01:31:56,077 --> 01:31:58,077
Yeah. Bye.

1860
01:31:56,077 --> 01:31:58,044
<i>We'll share the byline.</i>

1861
01:31:58,045 --> 01:31:59,478
Bye.

1862
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:00,813
Nutter.

1863
01:32:00,814 --> 01:32:02,749
<i> Goldsmith was
under tremendous pressure</i>

1864
01:32:02,750 --> 01:32:04,349
<i>before he went to Washington.</i>

1865
01:32:04,350 --> 01:32:05,984
Our military were
refusing to invade

1866
01:32:05,985 --> 01:32:07,687
without a clear legal opinion
from him

1867
01:32:07,688 --> 01:32:09,287
that what they were doing
was legal

1868
01:32:09,288 --> 01:32:10,857
<i>in case of a war crimes trial.</i>

1869
01:32:10,858 --> 01:32:12,758
Thank you, Martin, very helpful.

1870
01:32:12,759 --> 01:32:14,394
Well, no, hang on,
hang on, hang on.

1871
01:32:14,395 --> 01:32:15,693
Do you think you have a defense?

1872
01:32:15,694 --> 01:32:17,694
We're working on it.

1873
01:32:15,694 --> 01:32:17,196
<i>Okay.</i>

1874
01:32:17,197 --> 01:32:18,197
<i>Let me know when you do.</i>

1875
01:32:17,197 --> 01:32:18,864
Well, you'll hear it in court.

1876
01:32:18,865 --> 01:32:20,865
<i>Come on, Ben.</i>

1877
01:32:18,865 --> 01:32:20,666
Bye.

1878
01:32:20,667 --> 01:32:22,667
He's persistent.

1879
01:32:20,667 --> 01:32:22,602
He is.

1880
01:32:22,603 --> 01:32:23,803
But it's your story

1881
01:32:23,804 --> 01:32:26,404
and you don't need
a media trial.

1882
01:32:26,405 --> 01:32:29,442
We should request
full disclosure
of all legal advice

1883
01:32:29,443 --> 01:32:32,012
given by Goldsmith
in the year leading up
to the invasion.

1884
01:32:33,012 --> 01:32:34,880
He'll almost certainly
refuse to comply.

1885
01:32:34,881 --> 01:32:36,849
Then we'll subpoena Wilmshurst.

1886
01:32:36,850 --> 01:32:39,786
Hell, we'll subpoena
Goldsmith himself.
And Blair too.

1887
01:32:39,787 --> 01:32:43,956
Ben, if we can't prove that
Goldsmith changed his advice,

1888
01:32:43,957 --> 01:32:47,229
we can't argue that Katharine
tried to stop an illegal war.

1889
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:49,229
What then?

1890
01:32:58,104 --> 01:32:59,604
Then I'll be found guilty.

1891
01:32:59,605 --> 01:33:01,216
Almost certainly, yes.

1892
01:33:09,216 --> 01:33:12,385
So, do you want to risk it all

1893
01:33:12,386 --> 01:33:17,590
and ask for disclosure
of the government's documents,

1894
01:33:17,591 --> 01:33:18,871
or would you rather plead guilty

1895
01:33:19,025 --> 01:33:21,335
and hope for a reduced sentence?

1896
01:33:30,003 --> 01:33:31,972
I think...

1897
01:33:32,972 --> 01:33:36,381
...we were lied
into an illegal war.

1898
01:33:42,381 --> 01:33:44,591
Let's ask for the documents.

1899
01:33:50,591 --> 01:33:51,591
All right.

1900
01:34:22,088 --> 01:34:23,689
You ready?

1901
01:34:23,690 --> 01:34:25,590
No statements now, remember.

1902
01:34:25,591 --> 01:34:27,735
Let's just get through
those doors.

1903
01:34:50,350 --> 01:34:52,350
Katharine, you okay?

1904
01:34:50,350 --> 01:34:52,852
Yeah.

1905
01:34:52,853 --> 01:34:54,687
Ben's already
in the courtroom

1906
01:34:54,688 --> 01:34:56,956
but he wanted you to
meet Martin Bright.

1907
01:34:56,957 --> 01:34:59,425
Uh, he's covering the trial.

1908
01:34:59,426 --> 01:35:01,227
Katharine, it's an honor.

1909
01:35:01,228 --> 01:35:03,862
I'll be in the press gallery.
I hope that's all right?

1910
01:35:03,863 --> 01:35:06,666
Yeah, uh, yeah. You...

1911
01:35:06,667 --> 01:35:09,301
You took a real risk.

1912
01:35:09,302 --> 01:35:11,069
No, you took the risk.

1913
01:35:11,070 --> 01:35:12,639
I think what you did
was extraordinary.

1914
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,374
I think what you exposed
was extraordinary.

1915
01:35:15,375 --> 01:35:17,076
All our institutions failed us.

1916
01:35:17,077 --> 01:35:18,911
The government,
the intelligence services,

1917
01:35:18,912 --> 01:35:22,047
the press,
they failed us categorically.

1918
01:35:22,048 --> 01:35:24,884
Even my own paper supported
the war before that memo.

1919
01:35:24,885 --> 01:35:26,419
Well, thank you for being here.

1920
01:35:26,420 --> 01:35:28,520
No, thank you.

1921
01:35:28,521 --> 01:35:31,225
It's important what you did.
It matters.

1922
01:35:33,225 --> 01:35:35,225
We should go in,
Martin.

1923
01:35:33,225 --> 01:35:35,795
Yes.

1924
01:35:35,796 --> 01:35:39,002
Sorry, James. Yes.
Uh, be strong.

1925
01:35:42,002 --> 01:35:44,502
Katharine,
you're going that way.

1926
01:35:44,503 --> 01:35:46,371
Uh, can I just have a moment?

1927
01:35:46,372 --> 01:35:48,372
Of course.

1928
01:35:46,372 --> 01:35:48,211
Thanks.

1929
01:35:51,211 --> 01:35:53,278
You should
leave that behind,
ma'am.

1930
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:56,890
Uh, yeah, sorry,
can I just have
a second? Just...

1931
01:36:06,626 --> 01:36:08,126
<i>Janum?</i>

1932
01:36:08,127 --> 01:36:11,435
Hi. Um, I'm about to go in.

1933
01:36:15,435 --> 01:36:16,435
I love you.

1934
01:36:18,204 --> 01:36:20,372
I love you too.

1935
01:36:20,373 --> 01:36:24,410
Uh, I'm gonna try
and call as soon as I can.

1936
01:36:24,411 --> 01:36:26,416
<i>I wish I was there with you.</i>

1937
01:36:29,416 --> 01:36:30,719
I know.

1938
01:36:31,719 --> 01:36:33,352
I'm so sorry.

1939
01:36:33,353 --> 01:36:35,122
<i>You have nothing
to be sorry for.</i>

1940
01:36:37,122 --> 01:36:40,197
I'm so proud of you.
So proud of you.

1941
01:36:43,197 --> 01:36:45,567
Bye.

1942
01:36:46,567 --> 01:36:47,806
Bye.

1943
01:36:53,806 --> 01:36:55,806
Miss?

1944
01:36:56,643 --> 01:36:57,643
Sorry.

1945
01:36:58,511 --> 01:37:00,179
I can take your bag.

1946
01:37:00,180 --> 01:37:02,180
We'll see you in there, okay?

1947
01:37:00,180 --> 01:37:02,079
Yeah.

1948
01:37:34,079 --> 01:37:36,221
Your scarf and jacket, please.

1949
01:37:42,221 --> 01:37:45,206
Okay, and then
if you'll raise your arms.

1950
01:37:59,206 --> 01:38:00,644
Okay.

1951
01:38:05,511 --> 01:38:06,581
She's here.

1952
01:38:07,581 --> 01:38:09,514
Right. Okay.

1953
01:38:09,515 --> 01:38:10,860
Judge is ready.

1954
01:38:20,860 --> 01:38:22,118
Up you go.

1955
01:38:44,118 --> 01:38:46,986
Are you
Katharine Teresa Gun?

1956
01:38:46,987 --> 01:38:48,120
Yes.

1957
01:38:48,121 --> 01:38:51,857
I'm sorry.
Can you speak up,
please?

1958
01:38:51,858 --> 01:38:53,224
Yes, I am.

1959
01:38:53,225 --> 01:38:55,827
"Katharine Teresa Gun,

1960
01:38:55,828 --> 01:38:57,261
"you are charged with an offense

1961
01:38:57,262 --> 01:39:00,399
"contrary to Section 1,
Subsection 1

1962
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:04,202
"of the Official Secrets Act
of 1989.

1963
01:39:04,203 --> 01:39:08,374
"In that between January 30
and March 2 of 2003

1964
01:39:08,375 --> 01:39:10,011
"you did knowingly
and intentionally

1965
01:39:11,011 --> 01:39:13,946
"disclose top secret
intelligence information

1966
01:39:13,947 --> 01:39:16,415
"contrary to the said act."

1967
01:39:16,416 --> 01:39:20,689
How do you plead?
Guilty or not guilty?

1968
01:39:22,689 --> 01:39:24,060
Ms. Gun?

1969
01:39:27,060 --> 01:39:28,594
Not guilty.

1970
01:39:32,733 --> 01:39:35,904
Yes, Mr. Ellison.

1971
01:39:38,904 --> 01:39:41,074
Yes, thank you, My Lord.

1972
01:39:42,074 --> 01:39:45,812
My Lord, in light of
recent developments,

1973
01:39:45,813 --> 01:39:48,179
the prosecution
will offer no evidence

1974
01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:50,916
against the defendant
on this indictment.

1975
01:39:52,552 --> 01:39:54,523
I beg your pardon?

1976
01:39:56,523 --> 01:39:59,992
My Lord, the prosecution will
not pursue the indictment.

1977
01:39:59,993 --> 01:40:01,195
Today?

1978
01:40:02,195 --> 01:40:03,195
No, My Lord.

1979
01:40:03,196 --> 01:40:04,563
I'm sorry.

1980
01:40:04,564 --> 01:40:08,034
Are you asking for
an adjournment, Mr. Ellison?

1981
01:40:09,034 --> 01:40:10,402
No, My Lord.

1982
01:40:10,403 --> 01:40:12,504
You are saying
that you do not wish

1983
01:40:12,505 --> 01:40:15,608
to proceed at all?

1984
01:40:15,609 --> 01:40:16,975
Yes, My Lord.

1985
01:40:16,976 --> 01:40:19,581
But the accused confessed.

1986
01:40:20,581 --> 01:40:21,546
Yes, My Lord.

1987
01:40:21,547 --> 01:40:24,316
And yet you do not
wish to proceed?

1988
01:40:24,317 --> 01:40:26,317
No, My Lord.

1989
01:40:24,317 --> 01:40:26,117
I'm sorry.

1990
01:40:26,118 --> 01:40:28,187
I find that extraordinary.

1991
01:40:28,188 --> 01:40:30,725
Do you care to explain?

1992
01:40:32,725 --> 01:40:36,260
My Lord,
the accused submitted
an unusual defense.

1993
01:40:36,261 --> 01:40:38,863
Yes. The defense of necessity.

1994
01:40:38,864 --> 01:40:40,864
Yes.

1995
01:40:38,864 --> 01:40:40,499
And?

1996
01:40:40,500 --> 01:40:43,868
And we do not believe
we have sufficient evidence
to rebut it.

1997
01:40:43,869 --> 01:40:45,737
Why not? She confessed.

1998
01:40:45,738 --> 01:40:47,340
Because, My Lord,

1999
01:40:47,341 --> 01:40:50,343
the documents that
we have called for would show

2000
01:40:50,344 --> 01:40:53,746
that this country was taken
to war illegally...

2001
01:40:55,081 --> 01:40:57,616
...and may expose

2002
01:40:57,617 --> 01:41:01,153
the government to
charges of war crimes.

2003
01:41:01,154 --> 01:41:02,154
That is absurd!

2004
01:41:02,155 --> 01:41:03,324
Is it?

2005
01:41:05,324 --> 01:41:07,393
Then kindly hand over
the documents

2006
01:41:07,394 --> 01:41:10,362
that we have asked to see.

2007
01:41:10,363 --> 01:41:12,130
My Lord, the prosecution
is not obliged.

2008
01:41:12,131 --> 01:41:15,466
Indeed, it is not permitted
to continue with a case
if it does not believe

2009
01:41:15,467 --> 01:41:18,069
there is a realistic prospect
of a conviction.

2010
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:20,305
To do so would be a waste
of taxpayers' funds.

2011
01:41:20,306 --> 01:41:22,174
My Lord, I am thankful

2012
01:41:22,175 --> 01:41:25,344
that the charges against
Ms. Gun are being withdrawn

2013
01:41:25,345 --> 01:41:27,978
and that the Crown
is suddenly so determined

2014
01:41:27,979 --> 01:41:30,181
not to waste taxpayers' money.

2015
01:41:30,182 --> 01:41:33,419
But surely,
after months of uncertainty

2016
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:37,723
and severe distress,
Ms. Gun is entitled to know

2017
01:41:37,724 --> 01:41:40,626
why the government
is dropping this case?

2018
01:41:40,627 --> 01:41:43,895
Indeed, the public
is entitled to know.

2019
01:41:43,896 --> 01:41:45,896
Hear, hear.

2020
01:41:43,896 --> 01:41:45,234
Hear.

2021
01:41:48,234 --> 01:41:49,234
Mr. Ellison?

2022
01:41:53,038 --> 01:41:54,706
Again, My Lord, we do not feel

2023
01:41:54,707 --> 01:41:57,609
we have a realistic prospect
of a conviction.

2024
01:41:57,610 --> 01:41:59,747
There is nothing more I can say.

2025
01:42:00,747 --> 01:42:02,281
To be clear,

2026
01:42:02,282 --> 01:42:06,451
you are withdrawing all charges

2027
01:42:06,452 --> 01:42:09,225
against Katharine Teresa Gun?

2028
01:42:12,225 --> 01:42:13,358
Yes, My Lord.

2029
01:42:24,171 --> 01:42:25,944
Ms. Gun...

2030
01:42:30,944 --> 01:42:32,947
...you are free to go.

2031
01:43:07,980 --> 01:43:10,916
<i>In a startling about-turn,
the Crown Prosecution Service</i>

2032
01:43:10,917 --> 01:43:13,051
<i>has dropped its case
against an intelligence...</i>

2033
01:43:13,052 --> 01:43:16,455
<i> At 29,
Katharine Gun was facing jail
for breaking the...</i>

2034
01:43:16,456 --> 01:43:17,755
<i> The last thing
the government wanted</i>

2035
01:43:17,756 --> 01:43:19,224
<i>within months
of a general election</i>

2036
01:43:19,225 --> 01:43:20,459
<i>was a big court case</i>

2037
01:43:20,460 --> 01:43:22,560
<i>focusing on the legality
of that war...</i>

2038
01:43:22,561 --> 01:43:24,496
<i> The lawyers wanted
the Attorney General's</i>

2039
01:43:24,497 --> 01:43:26,264
<i>secret advice to Downing Street</i>

2040
01:43:26,265 --> 01:43:29,167
<i>about whether invading Iraq
was or was not legal</i>

2041
01:43:29,168 --> 01:43:31,169
<i>disclosed that the...</i>

2042
01:43:31,170 --> 01:43:34,345
<i>And he was
involved in deciding
whether today's case...</i>

2043
01:43:39,345 --> 01:43:42,680
<i> First tonight,
Katharine Gun walks free.</i>

2044
01:43:42,681 --> 01:43:44,616
<i>In a dramatic about-turn,
the Crown...</i>

2045
01:43:44,617 --> 01:43:46,385
<i>So did the Attorney General</i>

2046
01:43:46,386 --> 01:43:48,219
<i>put pressure on to stop
the trial?</i>

2047
01:43:48,220 --> 01:43:49,822
<i>Did GCHQ?</i>

2048
01:43:49,823 --> 01:43:52,291
<i>Did the prime minister?
No answers.</i>

2049
01:43:52,292 --> 01:43:53,960
<i>Tonight we're simply
asked to believe</i>

2050
01:43:53,961 --> 01:43:56,698
<i>that there was no case
to answer.</i>

2051
01:44:00,167 --> 01:44:02,468
Would you do it again?

2052
01:44:02,469 --> 01:44:03,469
Would you do it again?

2053
01:44:03,470 --> 01:44:04,502
I have no regrets.

2054
01:44:04,503 --> 01:44:06,322
Yes, and I would
do it again, yes.

2055
01:44:22,322 --> 01:44:23,957
Caught anything?

2056
01:44:24,957 --> 01:44:26,640
Not yet.

2057
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,545
You know, it wasn't
my choice to prosecute.

2058
01:44:45,545 --> 01:44:49,448
I was bound by the decision
of the Attorney General.

2059
01:44:50,448 --> 01:44:53,853
Why did you keep her
in a state of distress

2060
01:44:53,854 --> 01:44:58,422
for a year
before you brought charges?

2061
01:44:58,423 --> 01:45:02,193
The services wanted to make
an example of her.

2062
01:45:02,194 --> 01:45:05,130
If we dropped the case
any earlier,

2063
01:45:05,131 --> 01:45:07,838
what kind of message
would that have sent?

2064
01:45:12,838 --> 01:45:14,375
Do me a favor, Ken.

2065
01:45:15,375 --> 01:45:17,000
Go and fish somewhere else.