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  1. [22 Apr 20:05:55] (Group) Ever: 'Hey'
  2. [22 Apr 20:05:59] (Group) Rockwell: 'howdy'
  3. [22 Apr 20:06:02] (Group) Rockwell: 'Ok, I want to learn how to defend myself, first and foremost. '
  4. [22 Apr 20:06:17] (Group) Rockwell: 'what to do when I am attacked, order of operations and priorities'
  5. [22 Apr 20:06:29] (Group) Ever: 'Okay, that's good'
  6. [22 Apr 20:06:41] (Group) Ever: 'You're already thinking in terms of tangible things you can improve on'
  7. [22 Apr 20:07:05] (Group) Rockwell: 'except for rare cases, I have never gone on the offense (strictly due to not even knowing how to defend)'
  8. [22 Apr 20:07:21] (Group) Rockwell: 'and also any specific ways I should be changing my build / gear to help on the PK front'
  9. [22 Apr 20:08:02] (Group) Ever: 'Defense is, for the most part, a combination of preparedness (Stat builds, Class choices, EQ, consumables), information (who is around you, what do their stats look like), and finally execution when it comes time to fight or flight'
  10. [22 Apr 20:08:21] (Group) Ever: 'So let's start at the beginning'
  11. [22 Apr 20:08:39] (Group) Rockwell: 'yes'
  12. [22 Apr 20:08:51] (Group) Ever: 'Nav is a good all-around build for PvP, especially if you're going to be on the defensive'
  13. 22 Apr 20:09:14] (Group) Ever: 'Nav has high int, which helps in resisting curse/web, making you harder to lock own'
  14. 22 Apr 20:09:23] (Group) Ever: 'Nav also has high wis (or should) and can heal relatively well'
  15. 22 Apr 20:09:33] (Group) Ever: 'Giving you a relatively tanky, hard to kill build'
  16. 22 Apr 20:10:04] (Group) Ever: 'One option you an pursue is instead of the standard PvE Nav build Int/Wis/Luck/Dex)'
  17. 22 Apr 20:10:20] (Group) Ever: 'You can go with a con build, so Int/Con/Wis/Luck'
  18. 22 Apr 20:10:27] (Group) Rockwell: 'hmm ok'
  19. 22 Apr 20:10:38] (Group) Ever: 'Fill in with dex where you can, and Str suffers, but you gain more defense'
  20. 22 Apr 20:10:50] (Group) Rockwell: 'I havent experimented much with con - I'll give that a try this mort'
  21. 22 Apr 20:11:03] (Group) Ever: 'The large majority of build recommendations you'll get from people are PvE builds'
  22. 22 Apr 20:11:04] (Group) Rockwell: 'it reduces general melee damage? how about spell damage?'
  23. 22 Apr 20:11:08] (Group) Ever: 'And they work great for killing mobs'
  24. 22 Apr 20:11:13] (Group) Ever: 'But tend to get shredded in PvP'
  25. 22 Apr 20:11:22] (Group) Ever: 'Con reduces all damage'
  26. 22 Apr 20:11:28] (Group) Rockwell: 'ah ok'
  27. 22 Apr 20:11:28] (Group) Ever: 'Dex reduces melee'
  28. 22 Apr 20:11:35] (Group) Ever: 'Int reduces spell'
  29. 22 Apr 20:11:40] (Group) Rockwell: 'gotcha'
  30. 22 Apr 20:12:08] (Group) Ever: 'I'll be straightforward with you'
  31. 22 Apr 20:12:11] (Group) Ever: 'You're incredibly squishy'
  32. 22 Apr 20:12:22] (Group) Ever: 'I chew through you very fast, even with others healing you'
  33. 22 Apr 20:12:31] (Group) Rockwell: 'yes, please do, i dont mind lol'
  34. 22 Apr 20:12:34] (Group) Ever: 'That's the con for the most part'
  35. 22 Apr 20:12:47] (Group) Rockwell: 'makes sense because I absolutely have been prioritizing it last'
  36. 22 Apr 20:13:02] (Group) Ever: 'EQ is simple for the most part, make sure you're getting at least basic Aard'
  37. 22 Apr 20:13:19] (Group) Ever: 'For defense, you want a BP every 50 levels or so minimum, at least a level 1 sanct ura'
  38. 22 Apr 20:13:31] (Group) Rockwell: 'I think I am pretty good on the EQ front - yes I have that covered'
  39. 22 Apr 20:13:45] (Group) Ever: 'A level 1 regen ring, bracers/gloves every 50 levels minimum, as well as a shield very 50 levels minimum'
  40. 22 Apr 20:14:04] (Group) Ever: 'Then fill in with your closed EQ, enchanted preferred'
  41. 22 Apr 20:14:46] (Group) Rockwell: 'gotcha. I am there on most of that - currently just trying to find good bonusloot o change out with closed clan enchanted stuff'
  42. 22 Apr 20:15:10] (Group) Rockwell: 'but yes I can fill in and have the big aard quest items more often-ly upgraded'
  43. 22 Apr 20:15:38] (Group) Ever: 'As far as consumables go, make sure you have a manor vendor available omewhere for 1 weight potions'
  44. 22 Apr 20:15:41] (Group) Rockwell: 'should I prioritize resists more at the expense of stats?'
  45. 22 Apr 20:15:59] (Group) Ever: '60s are fine for HP, but you'll want to carry higher level mana ones, and consider arring at least a few high level HP ones'
  46. 22 Apr 20:16:21] (Group) Rockwell: 'I typically use manor pots post 100 and always use highest lvl available'
  47. 22 Apr 20:16:27] (Group) Ever: 'I've heard that resists are good for PvP but I've yet to see a big difference'
  48. 22 Apr 20:16:37] (Group) Ever: 'If I win or lose, it rarely seems to have to do with resists'
  49. 22 Apr 20:16:50] (Group) Rockwell: 'interesting, ok - i do know when my light resist was poor as vampire, those ith light attacks really hurt'
  50. 22 Apr 20:17:02] (Group) Ever: 'Yeah that's an obvious one though'
  51. 22 Apr 20:17:05] (Group) Rockwell: 'right'
  52. 22 Apr 20:17:09] (Group) Ever: 'Vamp is not a PvP viable race'
  53. 22 Apr 20:17:29] (Group) Rockwell: 'one of the reasons I moved away from it for this tier!'
  54. 22 Apr 20:17:34] (Group) Ever: 'So that's the preparedness portion'
  55. 22 Apr 20:17:38] (Group) Ever: 'Next is information'
  56. 22 Apr 20:17:48] (Group) Rockwell: 'kk'
  57. 22 Apr 20:17:51] (Group) Ever: 'At any given time, you have people around your range in the OPK pool'
  58. 22 Apr 20:18:12] (Group) Ever: 'You will do better if you take some time to research those people before you go out uesting/CPing/Leveling etc.'
  59. 22 Apr 20:18:25] (Group) Ever: 'Get an idea of who CAN attack you, and then make an estimate of who WILL'
  60. 22 Apr 20:18:30] (Group) Ever: 'The way you do that is simple'
  61. 22 Apr 20:18:49] (Group) Ever: 'who opk 1 25'
  62. 22 Apr 20:18:52] (Group) Ever: 'You're 15'
  63. 22 Apr 20:19:00] (Group) Ever: 'Anyone over 25 can't attack'
  64. 22 Apr 20:19:17] (Group) Ever: 'Anyone below can though, and fast leveling T9s will often prey on you even with a 15 or -20 levelcheck'
  65. 22 Apr 20:19:22] (Group) Ever: 'So I'd go -20 and +10'
  66. 22 Apr 20:19:25] (Group) Ever: 'So if you're 50'
  67. 22 Apr 20:19:29] (Group) Ever: 'who opk 30 60'
  68. 22 Apr 20:19:34] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok, gotcha'
  69. 22 Apr 20:19:43] (Group) Rockwell: 'im trying  all this as we speak too'
  70. 22 Apr 20:19:48] (Group) Ever: 'Once you have that list, use whois and myrank <name> 16 on each one'
  71. 22 Apr 20:20:05] (Group) Ever: 'get an idea of 5 specfic metrics'
  72. 22 Apr 20:20:17] (Group) Ever: 'Their QP earned, trained stats, K/D ratio, and their pups'
  73. 22 Apr 20:20:39] (Group) Ever: 'If you see a T9 with 2m QP, 1000 trained stats to your 700, and 100k pups... yeah, hey're stronger than you'
  74. 22 Apr 20:20:46] (Group) Ever: 'Can you beat them? Well, maybe'
  75. 22 Apr 20:20:47] (Group) Rockwell: 'right'
  76. 22 Apr 20:20:55] (Group) Ever: 'But recognize and acknowledge strength due to stats'
  77. 22 Apr 20:20:59] (Group) Ever: 'Also'
  78. 22 Apr 20:21:07] (Group) Ever: 'K/D will sometimes tell you if it's a hunter or not'
  79. 22 Apr 20:21:29] (Group) Ever: 'low K/D people rarely ever hunt, usually just fight defensively, hence the negative /d'
  80. 22 Apr 20:21:46] (Group) Ever: 'So with those 5 metrics, you'll probably be able to tell if someone is likely to come fter you or not'
  81. 22 Apr 20:21:55] (Group) Ever: 'The last bit of information is a more immediate one'
  82. 22 Apr 20:22:02] (Group) Ever: 'Make an alias for either where or swho 12 area'
  83. 22 Apr 20:22:10] (Group) Ever: 'Spam it'
  84. 22 Apr 20:22:17] (Group) Rockwell: 'yes, I have done that'
  85. 22 Apr 20:22:24] (Group) Ever: 'If you're savvy on triggers/aliases, tie it into your kill commands and such'
  86. 22 Apr 20:22:36] (Group) Ever: 'It'll let you know quickly who is in your area'
  87. 22 Apr 20:22:39] (Group) Rockwell: 'ah, smart'
  88. 22 Apr 20:22:41] (Group) Ever: 'And from your previous research'
  89. 22 Apr 20:23:03] (Group) Ever: 'If you see someone you have already IDd as a potential hunter in area, you know ou should get out'
  90. 22 Apr 20:23:25] (Group) Ever: 'Easiest way to escape a fight is to leave before it starts'
  91. 22 Apr 20:23:47] (Group) Ever: 'Okay, next step, execution'
  92. 22 Apr 20:23:52] (Group) Ever: 'Let's assume you are caight'
  93. 22 Apr 20:23:53] (Group) Rockwell: 'well that's been my gameplan normally, but I want to fight more'
  94. 22 Apr 20:23:59] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok go on'
  95. 22 Apr 20:24:05] (Group) Ever: 'First off, IMO never take a defensive fight'
  96. 22 Apr 20:24:10] (Group) Ever: 'Get out and engage on your terms'
  97. 22 Apr 20:24:16] (Group) Rockwell: 'ohh, ok'
  98. 22 Apr 20:24:21] (Group) Ever: 'But that's me, Light operates with different rules'
  99. 22 Apr 20:24:36] (Group) Ever: 'So it may behoove you to stay in the fight since you'll likely have backup coming'
  100. 22 Apr 20:24:54] (Group) Ever: 'Either way, let's talk evasion, since you wanted defensive information'
  101. 22 Apr 20:24:59] (Group) Rockwell: 'true, but I die so fast most of the time that it doesnt matter'
  102. 22 Apr 20:25:00] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok'
  103. 22 Apr 20:25:06] (Group) Ever: 'So the first round is incredibly crucial'
  104. 22 Apr 20:25:09] (Group) Ever: 'So is the second round'
  105. 22 Apr 20:25:20] (Group) Ever: 'If you miss one or both of those, there's a very good chance you're already caught'
  106. 22 Apr 20:25:46] (Group) Ever: 'You have to be able to recognize first round that you're under attack and respond mmediately'
  107. 22 Apr 20:25:55] (Group) Ever: 'I recommend a trigger'
  108. 22 Apr 20:26:02] (Group) Ever: 'Two, actually'
  109. 22 Apr 20:26:07] (Group) Ever: 'One for if you're scried'
  110. 22 Apr 20:26:09] (Group) Rockwell: 'I have a sound that plays for PK engagement'
  111. 22 Apr 20:26:11] (Group) Ever: 'One for revenge'
  112. 22 Apr 20:26:14] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok'
  113. 22 Apr 20:26:17] (Group) Ever: 'Good'
  114. 22 Apr 20:26:30] (Group) Ever: 'Always make sure you know immediately if you are being scried or if you've been ttacked'
  115. 22 Apr 20:26:42] (Group) You nod.
  116. 22 Apr 20:27:16] (Group) Ever: 'Okay so'
  117. 22 Apr 20:27:21] (Group) Ever: 'First round'
  118. 22 Apr 20:27:38] (Group) Ever: 'If your attacker is even halfway competent, they will attempt what I call lockdown'
  119. 22 Apr 20:27:47] (Group) Ever: 'That's a combination of spells that prevents you from escaping'
  120. 22 Apr 20:27:59] (Group) Ever: 'The first half of it is curse, the second half of it is web, and there's others that assist hat'
  121. 22 Apr 20:28:03] (Group) Ever: 'Or strengthen it'
  122. 22 Apr 20:28:14] (Group) Ever: 'First step is understanding what these spells do'
  123. 22 Apr 20:28:23] (Group) Ever: 'Curse will prevent recall, hard stop, no way around it'
  124. 22 Apr 20:28:32] (Group) Ever: 'On top of that, it can't be dispelled in combat'
  125. 22 Apr 20:28:35] (Group) Ever: 'By any means'
  126. 22 Apr 20:28:39] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok'
  127. 22 Apr 20:28:47] (Group) Ever: 'If you're cursed, forget recall, it's not happening'
  128. 22 Apr 20:28:51] (Group) Ever: 'Your only way out is a portal'
  129. 22 Apr 20:28:57] (Group) Ever: 'which means you have to leave combat'
  130. 22 Apr 20:29:01] (Group) Ever: 'Because no portals in combat'
  131. 22 Apr 20:29:15] (Group) Rockwell: 'which means that web screws me up now'
  132. 22 Apr 20:29:23] (Group) Ever: 'Web MAY prevent movement, MAY prevent flee/retreat, or even recall, or even ortal usage'
  133. 22 Apr 20:29:33] (Group) Ever: 'but it's a may, it's a percent chance'
  134. 22 Apr 20:29:42] (Group) Ever: 'Web can also be strengthened up to 3 times by your attacker'
  135. 22 Apr 20:29:50] (Group) Ever: 'So the first web that hits you isn't as bad as the 3rd'
  136. 22 Apr 20:29:54] (Group) Rockwell: 'ah ok'
  137. 22 Apr 20:30:01] (Group) Ever: 'Web can though, be dispelled with the dissolve spell'
  138. 22 Apr 20:30:03] (Group) Ever: 'Completely'
  139. 22 Apr 20:30:06] (Group) Ever: 'In combat our out'
  140. 22 Apr 20:30:11] (Group) Ever: 'SO'
  141. 22 Apr 20:30:17] (Group) Ever: 'Your first move in a fight if you want to escape'
  142. 22 Apr 20:30:26] (Group) Ever: 'Should be reactive to whatever your opponent uses'
  143. 22 Apr 20:30:40] (Group) Ever: 'If you get attacked and you're instantly cursed, first round flee or retreat'
  144. 22 Apr 20:30:45] (Group) Ever: 'Because recall is out'
  145. 22 Apr 20:30:57] (Group) Ever: 'If you don't get cursed, but instead get webbed, or just nothing, recall'
  146. 22 Apr 20:31:08] (Group) Ever: 'You'll likely be out, unless you're in a norecall room or somesuch'
  147. 22 Apr 20:31:14] (Group) You nod.
  148. 22 Apr 20:31:14] (Group) Ever: 'Be wary of that'
  149. 22 Apr 20:31:21] (Group) Ever: 'Also by recall I mean word of recall'
  150. 22 Apr 20:31:30] (Group) Rockwell: 'right, i use it'
  151. 22 Apr 20:31:37] (Group) Ever: 'Now if you are going to use flee'
  152. 22 Apr 20:31:43] (Group) Ever: 'Don't use it once'
  153. 22 Apr 20:31:53] (Group) Ever: 'You can use flee up to 24ish times per round, because it's lagless'
  154. 22 Apr 20:32:08] (Group) Ever: 'So create an alias that's something like flee;flee;flee;flee;flee;flee;flee;flee;enter'
  155. 22 Apr 20:32:12] (Group) Rockwell: 'ohh, ive always used it three or four times'
  156. 22 Apr 20:32:15] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok i will alias that'
  157. 22 Apr 20:32:17] (Group) Ever: 'And spam that'
  158. 22 Apr 20:32:24] (Group) Ever: 'That's your oh shit escape button'
  159. 22 Apr 20:32:30] (Group) Ever: 'It'll prevent you from doing other stuff'
  160. 22 Apr 20:32:33] (Group) Ever: 'But it might also get you out'
  161. 22 Apr 20:32:38] (Group) Ever: 'So use it as a last resort'
  162. 22 Apr 20:32:43] (Group) Ever: 'Retreat is always better than flee though'
  163. 22 Apr 20:32:47] (Group) Ever: 'So if you have it use that first'
  164. 22 Apr 20:32:52] (Group) Rockwell: 'gotcha'
  165. 22 Apr 20:33:16] (Group) Ever: 'Flee is powerful at lowlevels but once your attacker gets blockexit, flee is very nlikely to work'
  166. 22 Apr 20:33:26] (Group) Ever: 'The enter at the end of that alias assumes you have portal wish'
  167. 22 Apr 20:33:31] (Group) Ever: 'So you can immediately bail'
  168. 22 Apr 20:33:44] (Group) Rockwell: 'ah, makes sense. ok'
  169. 22 Apr 20:33:44] (Group) Ever: 'Otherwise, work in equipping a hum portal into that alias'
  170. 22 Apr 20:33:50] (Group) Ever: 'hum because if you're blind, you need that'
  171. 22 Apr 20:33:53] (Group) Rockwell: 'yes I have wish and will use that'
  172. 22 Apr 20:33:59] (Group) Ever: 'Okay'
  173. 22 Apr 20:34:01] (Group) Ever: 'now'
  174. 22 Apr 20:34:56] (Group) Ever: 'Some other notes'
  175. 22 Apr 20:35:00] (Group) Ever: 'Toggles'
  176. 22 Apr 20:35:10] (Group) Ever: 'Make sure you have your toggles correct or you risk giving up an easy kill'
  177. 22 Apr 20:35:18] (Group) You nod.
  178. 22 Apr 20:35:26] (Group) Ever: 'nosum will prevent people from dooring right on top of you'
  179. 22 Apr 20:35:41] (Group) Rockwell: 'yes, I have made that embarrassing mistake before'
  180. 22 Apr 20:35:42] (Group) Ever: 'Also I recommend an audio trigger for door in case you forget nosum'
  181. 22 Apr 20:35:48] (Group) Ever: 'I know, I've exploited it :P'
  182. 22 Apr 20:35:54] (Group) Ever: 'Nofol'
  183. 22 Apr 20:36:08] (Group) Ever: 'If you don't have that toggled, literally anyone can just follow you if you're idling at a uestor or something'
  184. 22 Apr 20:36:13] (Group) Ever: 'Awkward way to die'
  185. 22 Apr 20:36:17] (Group) Rockwell: 'oh, ok'
  186. 22 Apr 20:36:20] (Group) Ever: 'nocanc'
  187. 22 Apr 20:36:34] (Group) Ever: 'If you don't, someone can legit cancel you right before a fight'
  188. 22 Apr 20:36:38] (Group) Ever: 'Awkward way to start a fight'
  189. 22 Apr 20:36:49] (Group) Rockwell: 'indeed'
  190. 22 Apr 20:36:50] (Group) Ever: 'Then there's pkoff, which I think we've talked about'
  191. 22 Apr 20:37:05] (Group) Ever: 'Can prevent you from accidentally aoeing someone you shouldn't'
  192. 22 Apr 20:37:12] (Group) Rockwell: 'dont think we did but I learned that one early'
  193. 22 Apr 20:37:13] (Group) Ever: 'And autopk, which is more of a group setting'
  194. 22 Apr 20:37:36] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok, for assisting in pk with groupies'
  195. 22 Apr 20:37:37] (Group) Ever: 'Alright so'
  196. 22 Apr 20:37:42] (Group) Ever: 'Let's assume that despite all of this'
  197. 22 Apr 20:37:46] (Group) Ever: 'You are caught'
  198. 22 Apr 20:37:53] (Group) Ever: 'It's round 3, you have curse and 1x web on you'
  199. 22 Apr 20:38:00] (Group) Ever: 'Let's talk about what happens after that'
  200. 22 Apr 20:38:05] (Group) You nod.
  201. 22 Apr 20:38:33] (Group) Ever: 'Your attacker is going to either continue locking you down until they feel comfortable ou can't escape, or debuff you a bit to reduce your damage, and then unload DPS on you'
  202. 22 Apr 20:38:55] (Group) Ever: 'Depending on who it is, you have anwhere from say 1 to 50 rounds after round 2 to et out'
  203. 22 Apr 20:39:16] (Group) Ever: 'It really just depends on who is attacking and how much damage they're doing'
  204. 22 Apr 20:39:31] (Group) Ever: 'but usually, it's going to not be very long'
  205. 22 Apr 20:39:35] (Group) Ever: 'So you need to act fast'
  206. 22 Apr 20:39:36] (Group) Ever: 'First tip'
  207. 22 Apr 20:39:43] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok'
  208. 22 Apr 20:39:46] (Group) Ever: 'If you're jumped while attacking a mob, you're practically invincible'
  209. 22 Apr 20:39:52] (Group) Ever: 'As long as you're aimed at the mob'
  210. 22 Apr 20:39:56] (Group) Ever: 'You will be able to quaf'
  211. 22 Apr 20:40:18] (Group) Ever: 'Especially if you're waiting for backup, remove your weaps, stay aimed at the mob, on't aoe, and quaf until help arrives'
  212. 22 Apr 20:40:28] (Group) Rockwell: 'lol ok'
  213. 22 Apr 20:40:28] (Group) Ever: 'Imma super mad when you use this tactic on me'
  214. 22 Apr 20:40:31] (Group) Ever: 'But, hey'
  215. 22 Apr 20:40:32] (Group) Ever: 'It's fair'
  216. 22 Apr 20:40:42] (Group) Rockwell: 'hehe ok'
  217. 22 Apr 20:40:52] (Group) Ever: 'Assuming you don't have a mob, next tip'
  218. 22 Apr 20:40:53] (Group) Ever: 'Heal yourself'
  219. 22 Apr 20:41:04] (Group) Ever: 'Take Cleric at R3 at the latest, get 60 heal'
  220. 22 Apr 20:41:07] (Group) Ever: 'It's a good spell'
  221. 22 Apr 20:41:09] (Group) Ever: 'Use it'
  222. 22 Apr 20:41:25] (Group) Rockwell: 'gotcha'
  223. 22 Apr 20:41:29] (Group) Ever: 'you can heal twice a round, and with Nav high wis, it'll do enough healing to where ou can basically tank a lot of players' damage infinitely'
  224. 22 Apr 20:41:34] (Group) Ever: 'Or at least till you run out of mana'
  225. 22 Apr 20:41:40] (Group) Ever: 'Fortunately that spell is incredibly mana efficient'
  226. 22 Apr 20:41:54] (Group) Ever: 'Once again, that'll buy you time, and may give you a chance to get away'
  227. 22 Apr 20:41:58] (Group) Ever: 'Third'
  228. 22 Apr 20:42:00] (Group) Ever: 'Dissolve webs'
  229. 22 Apr 20:42:13] (Group) Ever: 'Curse lasts forever but it's very realistic to get a web off you in a figh'
  230. 22 Apr 20:42:34] (Group) Ever: 'Intersperse dissolve with heal, and maybe blind, to reduce damage coming in, and et those webs off so you can retreat'
  231. 22 Apr 20:42:39] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok, and should be even easier with timeshifting as navi, right'
  232. 22 Apr 20:42:51] (Group) Ever: 'I don't think timeshifting affects heal'
  233. 22 Apr 20:42:55] (Group) Ever: 'but I could be wrong'
  234. 22 Apr 20:43:05] (Group) Rockwell: 'i mean dissolve (its what ive been told)'
  235. 22 Apr 20:43:18] (Group) Rockwell: 'but regardless, ok'
  236. 22 Apr 20:43:19] (Group) Ever: 'Maybe'
  237. 22 Apr 20:43:25] (Group) Ever: 'It's possible time shifting affects everything'
  238. 22 Apr 20:43:32] (Group) Ever: 'The help says lag checks'
  239. 22 Apr 20:43:40] (Group) Ever: 'So that's like all skills/spells'
  240. 22 Apr 20:43:56] (Group) Ever: 'Alright lastly'
  241. 22 Apr 20:44:04] (Group) Ever: 'Wimpy is a useful tool in PvP'
  242. 22 Apr 20:44:14] (Group) Ever: 'Blockexit does not effect wimpy'
  243. 22 Apr 20:44:21] (Group) Ever: 'So it's in a sense like a more powerful flee'
  244. 22 Apr 20:44:27] (Group) Rockwell: 'oh? wow ok'
  245. 22 Apr 20:44:34] (Group) Ever: 'Wimpy can also be set as high as 50% of your help'
  246. 22 Apr 20:44:37] (Group) Ever: 'Health*'
  247. 22 Apr 20:44:57] (Group) Ever: 'So in a pinch, you can set wimpy to half your health and wait to get dropped down o that point, hope it saves you'
  248. 22 Apr 20:45:04] (Group) Rockwell: 'should i update wimpy as I level?'
  249. 22 Apr 20:45:08] (Group) Ever: 'Obviously heal as soon as you get under 50% and try not to drop lower'
  250. 22 Apr 20:45:33] (Group) Ever: 'Always update wimpy a little bit, but I'd only put it at 50% during a losing fight'
  251. 22 Apr 20:45:41] (Group) Rockwell: 'ok'
  252. 22 Apr 20:45:43] (Group) Ever: 'Since often I don't want to be fleeing out the second I hit it'
  253. 22 Apr 20:45:47] (Group) Ever: 'Then again'
  254. 22 Apr 20:45:50] (Group) Ever: 'I'm a hunter'
  255. 22 Apr 20:46:03] (Group) Ever: 'Often I do very controlled fights where I intentionally drop to lower health'
  256. 22 Apr 20:46:22] (Group) Rockwell: 'interesting'
  257. 22 Apr 20:47:52] (Group) Ever: 'Invite Kaylie please'
  258. 22 Apr 20:48:08] (Group) Ever: 'There's a tactic called bait tanking'
  259. 22 Apr 20:48:16] (Group) Ever: 'That I could explain if I ever taught offensive stuff to you'
  260. 22 Apr 20:48:28] (Group) Ever: 'Obviously offensive PvP is a much much broader topic'
  261. 22 Apr 20:48:33] (Group) Kaylie has joined the group.
  262. 22 Apr 20:48:33] (Group) Warning: Kaylie is too strong for this group!
  263. 22 Apr 20:48:41] (Group) Kaylie: 'Oh, hey :)'
  264. 22 Apr 20:48:50] (Group) Ever: 'Well hello'
  265. 22 Apr 20:48:56] (Group) Rockwell: 'right, you have taught me so much - i need to wrangle all this (i am saving it all) nd then I will come back for offensive at a later date if that is ok with you'
  266. 22 Apr 20:48:59] (Group) Rockwell: 'hey kaylie'
  267. 22 Apr 20:49:09] (Group) Kaylie: 'Hi Hi :)'
  268. 22 Apr 20:49:21] (Group) Ever: 'Oh yeah I honestly don't know where to start with offensive'
  269. 22 Apr 20:49:27] (Group) Ever: 'I teach defensive tips a lot because that's applicable'
  270. 22 Apr 20:49:46] (Group) Rockwell: 'well I think I see the idea, just reverse what youve taught me'
  271. 22 Apr 20:49:47] (Group) Ever: 'There's.... there's a lot that goes into hunting/attacking'
  272. 22 Apr 20:50:24] (Group) Ever: 'Oh and one last thing'
  273. 22 Apr 20:50:27] (Group) Ever: 'Your combat trigger'
  274. 22 Apr 20:50:30] (Group) Ever: 'That plays the sound?'
  275. 22 Apr 20:50:33] (Group) Rockwell: 'yes'
  276. 22 Apr 20:50:34] (Group) Ever: 'Set it up to equip your shield'
  277. 22 Apr 20:50:48] (Group) Rockwell: 'ah smart, ok'
  278. 22 Apr 20:50:56] (Group) Ever: 'Never not try to defend with no shield'
  279. 22 Apr 20:51:02] (Group) Rockwell: 'generally leveling with a shield these days but if I go back ill do it'
  280. 22 Apr 20:51:38] (Group) Rockwell: 'ever, you are an excellent teacher'
  281. 22 Apr 20:51:46] (Group) Rockwell: 'thank you so much for this, I learned a ton'
  282. 22 Apr 20:51:46] (Group) Ever smiles happily.
  283. 22 Apr 20:51:52] (Group) Ever: 'Happy to help :)'
  284. 22 Apr 20:51:56] (Group) Kaylie: 'Hey, show me your trigger, I don't have like any triggers atm'
  285. 22 Apr 20:51:59] (Group) Ever: 'Spread it around'
  286. 22 Apr 20:52:10] (Group) Rockwell: 'I will do'
  287. 22 Apr 20:52:17] (Group) Ever: 'We need more people in the OPK pool, and in the game period'
  288. 22 Apr 20:52:30] (Group) Ever: 'knowledge is power, and too many people horde it like it's dragon gold'
  289. 22 Apr 20:52:32] (Group) Rockwell: 'well its baked in to a plugin, the light alerts plugin'
  290. 22 Apr 20:52:44] (Group) Rockwell: 'you should have it kaylie - i need to modify it to do the shield thing'
  291. 22 Apr 20:52:50] (Group) Rockwell: 'ill tell you when i figure it out'
  292. 22 Apr 20:52:59] Auction: Escobar is auctioning gluttony (Level 110, Num 790). Current bid is 100.
  293. 22 Apr 20:53:06] (Group) Kaylie: 'okay, I get it'
  294. 22 Apr 20:53:12] Auction: Escobar is auctioning hopelessness (Level 120, Num 791). Current bid is 100.
  295. 22 Apr 20:53:13] Auction: Escobar is auctioning melancholia (Level 103, Num 792). Current bid is 100.
  296. 22 Apr 20:53:41] (Group) Kaylie: 'I don't know if there are pitfalls here, showmap doesn't work, but it looks traightforward'
  297. 22 Apr 20:53:41] (Group) Ever chuckles politely.
  298. 22 Apr 20:53:51] (Group) Ever: 'I've never been apparently'
  299. 22 Apr 20:54:03] (Group) Rockwell: 'well awesome, let me go snip all this out and study it and whatnot'
  300. 22 Apr 20:54:04] (Group) Kaylie: 'me either, rare hunging, lol'
  301. 22 Apr 20:54:09] (Group) Rockwell: 'once again, thank you!'
  302. 22 Apr 20:54:16] (Group) Ever: 'Anytime Rockwell'
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