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  1. Everything in the game that Elena has an option to punish with SA2
  2. (not all of this is humanly possible or worth trying to do, but where else is the data boiz?)
  3. Akuma:
  4. -cl.hp also possible on hit if reversal timing and not totally max range
  5. -cr mk at point blank only
  6. -any blocked dp
  7.  
  8. Urien:
  9. -cr.hk at any range, only needs reversal timing total max range
  10. -Any tackle strength on block, (cr.mp xx SA2 is tight on EX tackle)
  11. -Any knee drop on block
  12.  
  13. Necro:
  14. -any lightning, dependant on range doesnt need reversal
  15. -Command grab on block
  16.  
  17. Ibuki:
  18. -f.hk reversal only, can't be max range, have to be close
  19. -f.mk any range, doesn't need reversal, is possible on hit if point blank
  20. -cl.hk = your choice punish
  21. -cr.hp is possible but the move is SJ cancellable so DAME DAME
  22. -any Raida, cr.mk xx SA2 timing can be tight, raw SA2 is easy
  23. -lk tsumuji, reversal SA2 only
  24. -mk tsumuji only possible point blank reversal
  25. -hk tsumuji, reversal any range on 3rd hit, can SA2 between 2nd and 3rd hit, if you're crouching a 3rd standing hit will whiff
  26. -b.mk whiffs on Elena crouching
  27. Sean:
  28. -cl.hp
  29. -far.hp only on reversal, and only close, not max range
  30. -cr.hp, reversal on block at any range, none reversal from medium/close range, also possible on hit if close range
  31. -st.mk reversal only really close
  32. -cr.mk reversal only really close
  33. -cr.hk any range, doesnt need reversal even max range
  34. -f.hp reversal possible on standing hit, not on crouch, doesn't need to be reversaled on block, doesn't work at max range
  35. -any ryuubi kyaku
  36. -any blocked dp
  37. -any blocked tatsu
  38. -any tackle
  39.  
  40. Alex:
  41. -cr.hp ,have to non reversal SA2 to get him grounded, anything else resets Alex
  42. -st.hk/THEBOOT possible at all ranges apart from total max range, also whiffs on Elena crouching
  43. -cr.hk possible at all ranges doesnt even need reversal
  44. -b.hp reversal only at total max range, possible non reversal any other distance, whiffs on Elena crouching
  45. -ex flash chop, the 2nd hit will whiff on Elena crouching
  46. -any stomp reversal only at v close range
  47. -hk+mk slash elbow, raw SA2 really easy, mpxxSA2 is a bit tight, ex and lk elbow are not possible
  48. Yun:
  49. -st.hp (close) 2nd hit whiffs on Elena crouching so is possible to SA2, doesnt need reversal
  50. -far mp (aka 1,2,3,) doesnt need reversal timing, can use lpxxSA2
  51. -st.mk (close, aka the launcher) can reversal it point blank but SA2 doesnt fully connect a lot of the time
  52. -st.hk reversal timing only, close range only
  53. -cr.hk reversal timing only, close range only
  54. -any Zesshou Hohou(dash punch) including GeneiJin version
  55.  
  56. Remy:
  57. -cr.hp whiffs on Elena crouching. even point blank, choice punish if aware just look for the confirm before committing
  58. -far hk is reversal only, only at close range so it doesnt push you out, whiffs on Elena crouching
  59. -cr.mk, total max distance doesnt work, any other spacing is fine, if in range for lp, can lp xx SA2
  60. -cr.hk, can super inbetween hits, srk will trade at a decent distance between hits, if close you can mkxxSA2 after full block
  61. -f.mk, only needs reversal at max range, possible on hit at any range but max as well
  62. -any CBK apart from ex, if it doesnt push you max range, can dash under as well if you read it
  63.  
  64. Q:
  65. -mp whiffs against Elena crouching and 50% of the time on standing, reversal is possible close range
  66. -hp, any range, doesnt need reversal, if in your mp range, mpxxSA2,
  67. -cr.mp, reversal only point blank, whiffs on Elena crouching
  68. -cr.hp, reversal and next frame only at point blank
  69. -hk, reversal only total point blank
  70. -cr.mk reversal only total point blank
  71. -cr.hk ez mode, if mk is range mk xx sa2
  72. -any blocked dash punch
  73. -any high speed barrage, mpxxSA2 is possible but you're often out of range
  74. Chun li:
  75. -st.mk (close) is reversal timing only point blank
  76. -close.hk doesnt need reversal, but it's SJ cancellable so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  77. -cr.mk reversal only, point blank only
  78. -cr.hk possible at close to mid ranges, point blank is possible for mpxxSA2 but lp is easier
  79. -b.mp reversal at close distance
  80.  
  81. Makoto:
  82. -st.hp, possible but often is hayate cancelled to make safer which makes it not possible
  83. -cr.hp reversal only, point blank only
  84. -st.mk whiffs on Elena crouching
  85. -st.hk ez to reversal, any range
  86. -f.mk, nae problem, whiffs on crouch as well
  87. -f.hk your choice punish material
  88. -cr.lk, possible any range, on hit, on block
  89. -any non ex Hayate
  90. -any non ex Chop
  91.  
  92. 12:
  93. -cr.hp
  94. -st.mk, but it's SJ cancellable
  95. -hk, close range only
  96. -crhk any range
  97. -b.mk reversal possible but is often cancelled
  98. -mk.A.X.E. possible on reversal but really hard to get right
  99. -any divebomb
  100. Yang:
  101. -st.hp close, 2nd hit whiffs on cr, only way to counter it
  102. -st.mp far, possible at max with reversal
  103. -st.hp far, whiffs on cr, only way to counter it, not happening
  104. -st.mk close, reversal point blank only
  105. -st.hk, reversal point blank only
  106. -cr.hk, reversal any range, if point blank can mp xx SA2
  107. -any 2nd hit of mantis slash, any gaps between ex, first hit of mp&hp also
  108.  
  109. Ryu:
  110. -cl.hp only reversal, only point blank
  111. -far.hp, standing block any range, whiffs on Elena crouching, choice punish material
  112. -cr.hp, any range, punishing with mp can be tight
  113. -st.hk whiffs on Elena crouching, basically your choice punish
  114. -cr.mk works at any range, reversal at max
  115. -cr.hk any range, if you're in mp range = your choice punish
  116. -any non ex hado at point blank
  117. -any donkey kick
  118.  
  119. Oro:
  120. -st.mp (launcher) reversal only, close range only
  121. -cr.mp point blank only
  122. -st.hk whiffs on Elena crouching, can mp xx sa2
  123. -cr.hk point blank only
  124. -f.mp, reversal at max range, can also sa2 on hit, doesnt need reversal at most ranges, hard to do
  125. -command grab = your choice punish
  126. -any dp on block
  127. Dudley:
  128. -cr.mk
  129. -f.hp reversal only, point blank only
  130. -any ducking straight/upper
  131. -any dp on block
  132. -can SA2 ducking itself as well
  133.  
  134. Elena
  135. -cr.mp any range
  136. -cr.hp reversalable
  137. -cr.hk any range
  138. -f.mk any range
  139. -df.hk any range
  140. -any RH, reversal needed at max range
  141. -any lynx tail = your choice punish
  142. -any SS but lk
  143.  
  144. Hugo:
  145. -st.mp, not possible max/mid, not hard to do close range
  146. -cr.hp = choice punish obviously
  147. -st.hk any range ez mode
  148. -cr.mk reversal v point blank only
  149. -cr.hk
  150. -f.hp any range
  151. -any lariat
  152. Ken:
  153. -cr.hp, point blank only, possible to reversal on hit
  154. -st.mk any range
  155. -st.hk reversal close range only
  156. -cr.mk reversal point blank only, possible on hit
  157. -cr.hk
  158. -f.mk reversal max range
  159. -any point blank hado
  160. -any tatsu
  161. -any dp on block
  162. This does not mean try and SA2 everything in this list in a match, some things are like Ken trying to SA3 a blocked cr.mk you have to be looking for it so hard you have to shut down the rest of your game and focus on it (even Kuroda agrees!)
  163. what it does mean though is that because Elena is so janky and under-used, the likelyhood that a Urien will sweep you and expect to get away with it is 100% and you can SA2 that move pretty easy from block at any range you block it from
  164. Necro and Dudley for example are generally writeoffs because you should be focusing on not letting them get you in the corner, let alone that you have 0 options against them outside of parry
  165. "But Cactu I don't play SA2 Elena!!" I hear you say, to which I say maybe do the same tests but with SA1 and then teach me how to escape Oro unblockables with SA1 because I don't know how to do that yet (it's a thing)
  166. also if you find any good videos of Elena play, add and watch this playlist to make you stop doing Rhino Horns full-screen
  167. and don't watch Atsugari because that is exactly what he does
  168. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEHJoWymXTCQQ2KI6TRQLXHZBCYsoWofw
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