'wright' vs back

Adam Back [8:20 PM]
vlad2vlad i'm looking forward to the output of the apocryphal PhD's :slightly_smiling_face: linkedin is seemingly devoid of anyone connected and it's a pretty small space where meaningful contributors who know enough to make research inroads are mostly known in the community. in short i dont believe it.


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Roberto Vlad [2:43 AM]
@adam3us  I'll see what proof I can get.  Can you confirm though, how many actual cryptographers are currently working for Blockstream or Core?  Thx.

Roberto Vlad [4:58 AM]
@adam3us  Answer from Dr. Wright:

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Dr Wright wants people who can think, not who already know.

He says you should try to look for creative people, not those with a social media bent.

There are over 2,000 PhDs in the CompSci in the US each year.  There are 5,000+ globally.

This is a total now of 100,000 CompSci PhDs.

Add maths and fields including combinatorics and you have over 1,000,000 people.

[4:58]
And...

[4:59]
Mr Back always thinks small. He did in his 2008 emails and he does now. The only thing he did was to pass Wei's email to me. Tell him thank you for that.

[4:59]
Thank you, @adam3us

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:)

Alphonse Pace
[5:01 AM]
comp sci phds prove they dont know how to think

[5:01]
otherwise they wouldnt be comp sci phds

Roberto Vlad [5:02 AM]
@adam3us  Now you started something:

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Dr. Wright wants to know:  why you said that you invented the PoW in Bitcoin... You both know that you used a different system.

Roberto Vlad [5:17 AM]
Some more good stuff:

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Also ask him why they are pushing a patented technology (SegWit)?

Did he not understand that just as short Schnorr signatures are in a lapsed patent did not mean that other technologies derived from this are not still in patent?

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And that short Schorr has flaws... only the extended versions are sound... but these still have patents covering them. Does he know of those from French Telecom? Did they bother checking?

[5:18]
Ask him why Aura et. al's paper uses the same hash puzzle as Bitcoin with the same solution format:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.73.1148&rep=rep1&type=pdf

And why he has an interactive challenge in hashcash and if this is anything like what Bitcoin uses :)

[5:18]
Why would he allow this page:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hashcash

When Hashcash used a different format to Bitcoin... See P 4 of Aura et. al 2001

[5:18]
Ask him... where are any similar code structures in the following
https://web.archive.org/web/20040819222039/http://www.hashcash.org:80/source/old/hashcash-0.15.zip

[5:18]
Ok:  FIGHT!!!!  :)

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My Code:

   // Check proof of work matches claimed amount
    if (CBigNum().SetCompact(nBits) > bnProofOfWorkLimit)
        return error("CheckBlock() : nBits below minimum work");
    if (GetHash() > CBigNum().SetCompact(nBits).getuint256())
        return error("CheckBlock() : hash doesn't match nBits");

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[5:24]
Adam's code:

/* -*- Mode: C; c-file-style: "bsd" -*- */

#if !defined( _hashcash_h )
#define _hashcash_h

#if defined( __cplusplus )
extern "C" {
#endif

extern int verbose_flag;
extern int no_purge_flag;

#define MAX_UTCTIME 13

time_t from_utctime( const char[MAX_UTCTIME+1] );
int to_utctime( char[MAX_UTCTIME+1], int len, time_t );

#if defined( __cplusplus )
}
#endif

#endif

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[5:24]
Code talks, bullshit walks...  <----  Satoshi's words!   ;)

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[5:25]
Your move, Dr. Back @adam3us

[5:25]
BTW, technically, I don't even work here.  This is kinda like a pick-up game.  :)

[5:27]
For crying outloud Adam, you got Satoshi all worked up now.  Try to not do that.

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And finally, Tell him I was not interested in his small group in 2008 and I am far less interested now. I stopped watching the cypherpunk lists in the 90s as it already had gone to shit.

Real mathematicians and others work, they do not spend their time diss'ing one another on social media.

I was not a part of it in 2008 and I am not a part now and neither are the people we hire.

mrhodl [5:29 AM]
https://bitcoincore.slack.com/archives/C0NGV6P7H/p1492864072765630 but I thought JVP met Satoshi in 2005 at a cypherpunk conference? He even has the picture to prove it.

Roberto Vlad [5:30 AM]
Going to a conference isn't the same as being on the mailing list.  Maybe he was there for the free food.  <-----  my words.

mrhodl [5:30 AM]
No no..He was specifically talking about Bitcoin and JVP pointed him to the right tent

Roberto Vlad [5:31 AM]
Dispute the code Dr. Wright provided not subjective dramatizations.

mrhodl
[5:31 AM]
We've never seen the picture so it could be all bullshit

[5:31]
I'll let Adam dispute code

[5:31]
I'm illiterate

Roberto Vlad [5:32 AM]
Lol.  I'm a hacker.

mrhodl
[5:32 AM]
:+1::skin-tone-2:

Roberto Vlad [5:32 AM]
SNAP:

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[5:33]
And finally...

“No comment on that,” replies Back. “Don’t like to speculate on who Satoshi might be.  I think it’s probably a good thing that Satoshi is anonymous because you know there’s a lot of political pressure that could land on somebody who is seen to somehow have control and all sorts of things.”

Yes, he wants the fame... tell him it is a shame that he cannot operate in competition and that he needs to form a socialist monopoly to hold his power, but all such groups collapse.

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Adam Back [10:39 AM]
vlad2vlad i consider myself an applied cryptographer. there are many others working on core with similar skill sets.

Roberto Vlad [10:54 AM]
It is time for WAR!!!  Grab on to something!!!!

Roberto Vlad [11:27 AM]
Dr Wright is gonna prove 16 of his 17 degrees.   He uses other people's technology, but make no mistake, he is a **  mathematician  **

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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2953900

Gregory Sanders [11:31 AM]
a mathematician who can't do a proper digital signature, sad!

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"ABSTRACT VIEWS
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moli [12:33 PM]
@vlad2vlad is such a :craig_wright_troll:  sucker, the only special one

Roberto Vlad [12:55 PM]
I'm smart.  I'm special.  I'm important.


Roberto Vlad [1:16 PM]
@adam3us  never piss off an Aussie:

[1:16]
Oh, tell Adam...
This glorified self aggrandising just belittles him.
"bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation contron"

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[1:17]
Lol.  You gotta admit, Wright is funny.