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Gentleman Candy or Optional fisherman as a race strat in Red

Sep 7th, 2019
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  1. Estimated Time Loss: 7.5s
  2. Estimated Risk Reduction: ???
  3. Valid Race Strat?: Situational
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  5. Strat: Fight the optional gentleman in the 4th room of the south corridor in ss anne with redbar and instant text and grab the rare candy. Use the candy in the menu with the first repel in rock tunnel. Candy from 34 -> 35 in Pokemon Tower after the Golbat Rocket.
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  7. 27 for Anne Raticate
  8. 28 for Raichu
  9. 29 for Venonat
  10. 30 for Oddish
  11. 30 for Bulbasaur
  12. 31 for Growlithe
  13. 31 for Vulpix
  14. (33 for Haunter on healpad skip, guarunteed OHKO)
  15. 35 for Tower Raticate
  16. 35 for Arbok
  17. Better silphbar levels (n/a to most race strat considerations)
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  20. Best Case timings: Gentleman: +31s
  21. No Save for Oddish: -6.4s
  22. Swap candies: +4s ?
  23. Redbar Levels: -2.1s
  24. Move selection -0.8s
  25.  
  26. Total: +25.7s
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  28.  
  29. Average timings: Gentleman: +31s
  30. No Save for Oddish: -6.4s
  31. Always keep Full Restore: -5s ?
  32. Ranges: -14s
  33. Swap candies: +4s ?
  34. Redbar Levels: -2.1s
  35.  
  36. Total: +7.5s
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  39. Worst (reasonable)Case Timings: Gentleman: +31s
  40. Miss Venonat Range: -6s
  41. No Save for Oddish: -6.4s
  42. 1 reset on Oddish: -33s
  43. Miss Growlithe: -6s
  44. Miss Raticate: -4s
  45.  
  46. Total: -24.4s
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  48. Actual Worst Case Timings: Gentleman: +31s
  49. Miss Venonat Range: -6s
  50. No Save for Oddish: -6.4s
  51. Sleep Powder into Oddish Death: -78s
  52. Miss Growlithe: -6s
  53. Miss Raticate: -4s
  54.  
  55. Total: -69.4s
  56.  
  57. True worst case: Infinite death cycle on oddish fight, timesave: indefinite.
  58.  
  59. True true worst case: Consecutively gen 1 miss until you run out of pp of all your moves, both strats even, never finish the game.
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  62. Analysis: Whilst on face value this looks like a bad play in terms of average time, in a race or no reset run the worst case scenario is far more of a problem than in a run, where you can just reset. This strategy entirely eliminates the risk of dying from missing ranges on the fly split. I think this strategy could be a good option depending on the situation, for example, if you have redbar and IT after anne rival and have a solid lead over an opponent, this strategy can secure this lead by ensuring redbar for rock tunnel without any risk of losing the lead to multiple deaths to oddish, whilst also reducing risk of quick attack/gen 1 miss etc troll deaths. A test by doing full trials of the entire split in race situations would be the best way to test a strat like this, which is otherwise very difficult to quantify in terms of it's merit.
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  64. Strat: Fight the optional fisherman on the 2nd door of the south corridor in ss anne with redbar and instant text.
  65. Gives:
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  67. 27 for Anne Raticate
  68. 28 for Pikachu
  69. 29 for Venonat
  70. 30 for Oddish
  71. 30 for Bulbasaur
  72. 31 for Growlithe
  73. 31 for Vulpix
  74. 34 for Tower Raticate
  75.  
  76. Best case timings: Fisher: +31s
  77. Skip saving: -6.4s
  78. Total: +24.6s
  79.  
  80. Average timings: Fisher: +31s
  81. No Save for Oddish: -6.4s
  82. Ranges: -12.2s
  83. Total: +12.4s
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  85. Analysis: Might be worth if you are in low redbar after rival. Can couple with healpad skip and celadon center skip to go for silph bar (see -https://pastebin.com/78m0ZCzV)
  86.  
  87. Calcs:
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  89. Average of 50: Normal Fisher Mean Timesave Gentleman Notes
  90. Bug Catcher: 20s 17.3s 2.7s 2.7s (got 1x thrash disable)
  91. Oddish Girl: 21.8s 12.7s 9.1s 9.1s (not accounting for using full restore, or resets)
  92. Growlithe: 4.3s 4s 0.3s 0.3s
  93. Rocket 2: 17s 17s 0s 0s (option to thrash fight and buy 1 less x acc)
  94. Raticate: 0.1s 0.6s (Fisher is 34 for Rat, gentleman is 35 for Rat)
  95. Arbok: 10.7s 9.4s 1.3s 1.3s
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  97. Redbar Levels: Normal Fisher Gentleman
  98. Bad: 28, 31 29, 30
  99. Candy: 30
  100. Good: 29, 30, 32 28, 31, 32 28, 29, 31, 32
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