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[15:04:25] <_Nuke Unturned> way better to store on database tho
[15:05:00] <_Nuke Unturned> if you need any help or so i could teamview you trough it
[15:10:17] <_lawlykilla> na
[15:10:18] <_lawlykilla> screw it
[15:14:41] <_Nuke Unturned> -.- wrote a guid how to for nothing i guess sigh
[15:15:52] <_Nuke Unturned> fr34kyn01535 are you there ?
[15:29:37] <_lawlykilla> lol sry xD
[15:35:10] <fr34kyn01535> I am
[15:58:49] <_lawlykilla> wtf is momo?
[15:58:57] <_lawlykilla> i get some error with momo file O.o
[16:27:50] <Freenex> fr34kyn01535 I know how to save metadata of items but its buggy sometimes. Is there a easy way to restore the whole metadata when giving a weapon to player? its a byte array
[16:28:39] <_lawlykilla> freenex do you know what mono.exe is?-.-
[16:29:03] <Freenex> ignore it
[16:30:12] <_lawlykilla> so its not important?
[16:30:16] <Freenex> no
[16:31:07] <_lawlykilla> people cant find ym server now-.-
[16:32:38] <_lawlykilla> all ports are open-.-
[17:01:12] <_westonhowe98> NotSupportedException: WebClient does not support conccurent I/O operations. - System.Net.WebClient.CheckBusy () System.Net.WebClient.SetBusy ()
[17:01:32] <_westonhowe98> I keep getting weird errors like this saying everything is broken but it all seems to work fine and it scares me XD
[17:10:54] <_Nuke Unturned> did you -1 open and +1 open ports ?? like open 27015 then also 27014 and 27016
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[17:32:39] <_DarkElement> "Adding first testing dockerfiles" - What is that? :o
[17:33:50] <_DarkElement> cuz i will update my rocket at Unturned today's update but i'm thinking and thinking and i dunno what it is
[17:34:46] <Freenex> sven tried something with https://www.docker.com/ yesterday
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[17:47:22] <_lawlykilla> i did
[17:47:33] <_lawlykilla> now ppl stuck on loading and i see joined/left...
[17:47:39] <_lawlykilla> god this thing is broken
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[17:52:01] <_Surefyre> lawly, any way you can screen share? I could help you pinpoint your issue.
[17:53:20] <_lawlykilla> not i lost connection to steam WTf
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[18:02:54] <_DarkElement> Pentium G3260	2x3.3Ghz	4GB DDR3	1x60 SSD GoodRAM  [Dedicated machine] - Good spec for Unturned server?
[18:02:54] <_Nuke Unturned> did you update your workshop mods into ur bundle folder ?
[18:03:23] <Freenex> Jenkins I'm waiting for you :*
[18:04:48] <_Nuke Unturned> well its good enough for running unturned server
[18:04:53] <_DarkElement> :3
[18:05:07] <_Nuke Unturned> but it is depending on you ISP
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[18:05:25] <_Nuke Unturned> whats your upload thats what matters
[18:05:36] <_DarkElement> Well they are saying: "Network: 100mbit"
[18:05:52] <_DarkElement> so i don't know much
[18:05:52] <_Nuke Unturned> thats probably download
[18:06:23] <_DarkElement> Well it's an Dedicated server at a hosting company so yea
[18:06:35] <_Nuke Unturned> but its also depending on how stable is the connection
[18:06:50] <_Nuke Unturned> do you have fiber ? or cable ? or old DSL
[18:06:56] <_Nuke Unturned> adsl ?
[18:07:09] <_DronXa> I use Africa hosting
[18:07:18] <_Nuke Unturned> rofl
[18:07:35] <_Nuke Unturned> <-- makes me giggle
[18:07:54] <_Nuke Unturned> like wich africa ? like in south africa ??
[18:07:58] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[18:08:32] <_Nuke Unturned> they have houses made out of shit ?? then what will the servers be made off XD LMFAO
[18:08:54] <Freenex> you ever saw Johannesburg?
[18:09:21] <_Nuke Unturned> no never xD
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[18:09:38] <_Nuke Unturned> im from europe
[18:09:43] <_Nuke Unturned> netherlands
[18:10:17] <Freenex> we are neighbours :P
[18:11:29] <_Nuke Unturned> were u from ?
[18:11:34] <Freenex> germany
[18:11:40] <_Nuke Unturned> aaah
[18:11:51] <_Nuke Unturned> ich spreche das nicht so gud muwhahahha
[18:12:00] <_Nuke Unturned> ich bin in freiburg
[18:12:01] <Freenex> close close :D
[18:12:17] <_Nuke Unturned> oder gronau
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[18:12:33] <_Nuke Unturned> ich wohne nicht so ver
[18:12:36] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[18:12:44] <Freenex> ver?
[18:12:48] <_Nuke Unturned> far
[18:12:53] <Freenex> weit weg
[18:12:55] <_Nuke Unturned> i live close to gronai
[18:12:58] <_Nuke Unturned> gronau
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[18:13:52] <_Nuke Unturned> so whats your role in rocketmod Freenex ?
[18:14:27] <Freenex> I'm a developer
[18:14:55] <_Nuke Unturned> u might can help me on some xD
[18:15:00] <Freenex> and moderator since 3-4 days :D
[18:15:04] <Freenex> on what?
[18:15:20] <_Nuke Unturned> private xD
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[18:40:12] <_DarkElement> Nuke
[18:40:17] <_Nuke Unturned> ye?
[18:40:32] <_DarkElement> i think you haven't understood me good
[18:40:45] <_DarkElement> It's a dedic machine provided by someone :d
[18:41:12] <_Nuke Unturned> well good enough i said
[18:41:23] <_DarkElement> but the internet :O
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[18:41:39] <_lawlykilla> hey
[18:41:43] <_lawlykilla> how i blacklist items
[18:41:52] <_lawlykilla> i wanna delete grizzly iron sight -.-
[18:42:06] <_Nuke Unturned> download item restriction plugin
[18:42:31] <_Nuke Unturned> add item to the config and wont show ingame
[18:42:48] <_DarkElement> ey Nuke
[18:43:04] <_lawlykilla> ok
[18:43:08] <_lawlykilla> um
[18:43:14] <_lawlykilla> redownloaded all file now..
[18:43:17] <_DarkElement> do you live in utrecht? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[18:43:21] <_lawlykilla> and people cant see custom guns :O
[18:45:04] <_lawlykilla> nvm
[18:45:04] <_DarkElement> lawly, what for Workshop things are you trying to use
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[18:45:06] <_lawlykilla> it fxed
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[18:45:14] <_lawlykilla> its ok its fixed now
[18:45:21] <_DarkElement> oh, ok :3
[18:45:25] <_lawlykilla> added some weapon pack to creative
[18:51:31] <_Nuke Unturned> oke
[18:51:38] <_Nuke Unturned> dont instal to much mods
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[18:51:55] <_Nuke Unturned> if you open task manager you will see why
[18:52:25] <_lawlykilla> why?o.o
[18:52:27] <_lawlykilla> cpu?
[18:52:28] <_lawlykilla> usage
[18:52:33] <_Nuke Unturned> and i dont really live near utrecht i think its like 1 hour and 30 min
[18:52:34] <_Nuke Unturned> no
[18:52:37] <_Nuke Unturned> memmory
[18:53:22] <_Nuke Unturned> i had like 21 mods before installed it started up using 6000mb of memmory use
[18:53:42] <_Nuke Unturned> if thats for 1 application its not normal xD
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[19:05:21] <alexr03> I installed 1 mod before and it started using 12gb
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[19:32:53] <_Nuke Unturned> ye
[19:32:59] <_Nuke Unturned> that shouldnt happen
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[19:47:34] <Freenex> no update? Oo
[19:49:13] <Freenex> Nelson just finished "Fix some other bugs that came up" 3 minutes ago :D
[19:51:48] <Leo> oh oh
[19:51:56] <Leo> 2 hot fixes ?
[19:52:00] <Leo> :P
[19:52:39] <Freenex> someone should make an rcon tool for rocket
[20:04:09] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned build #867: SUCCESS in 11 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned/867/
[20:04:33] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Linux build #513: SUCCESS in 9.7 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Linux/513/
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[20:10:33] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Linux build #514: SUCCESS in 9.6 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Linux/514/
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[20:17:40] <_MATTI9> Freenex I would love to make one but don't have the skills to :/
[20:21:15] <_Nuke Unturned> well
[20:21:21] <_Nuke Unturned> chats not working ?
[20:21:54] <_Nuke Unturned> aint good
[20:21:58] <_Nuke Unturned> lots of errors
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[20:23:42] <_trankvil> InvalidProgramException: Invalid IL code in SDG.Unturned.ChatManager:process (SDG.Unturned.SteamPlayer,string): IL_0019: call      0x0a0004de
[20:24:13] <_birinorama> I think that's a core game problem waiting for Nelson fix?
[20:24:23] <_Nuke Unturned> yeah thats the one
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[20:28:45] <_dzonyloker> commands not work
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[20:43:54] <_Surefyre> im experiencing it too
[20:44:10] <Freenex> I <3 updates
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[20:44:41] <_birinorama> We all do :D
[20:44:42] <_Surefyre> Me too, lol. mo' updates, mo' problems.
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[20:44:56] <_lawlykilla> omg
[20:44:58] <_lawlykilla> game updated
[20:45:06] <_lawlykilla> that means our servers are getting fked up?-.-
[20:45:08] <_Surefyre> and broke lol
[20:45:18] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[20:45:22] <_Surefyre> usually, theres 1 updated and 3 or 4 hotfixes
[20:45:24] <_Nuke Unturned> well ur not the only 1
[20:45:34] <_birinorama> Everything is getting rekt! :D
[20:45:38] <_Nuke Unturned> im missing #868
[20:45:39] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[20:46:18] <_lawlykilla> so we gota wait now for update?
[20:46:28] <_Surefyre> Hotfix, yes.
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[20:46:41] <_Surefyre> C'mon nelson, push that baby out.
[20:46:50] <_lawlykilla> how long you think its goan take :O
[20:47:00] <_lawlykilla> i realy should turn off auto updater on steam-.-
[20:47:01] <_Surefyre> hes usually pretty quick.
[20:47:04] <_birinorama> It's gonna take forever :D
[20:47:24] <_MonsterDavid> "This server is using a modified assambly"
[20:47:36] <_Surefyre> update your game.
[20:47:46] <_MonsterDavid> its updated ffs
[20:47:50] <_MonsterDavid> servers are broken
[20:47:51] <_Surefyre> Oh snap lol
[20:47:55] <_Surefyre> Yeah they are
[20:48:03] <Freenex> I should make a topic about modified assembly...
[20:48:29] <_Surefyre> you should make a topic about making topics :P
[20:48:48] <_lawlykilla> lol
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[20:49:13] <_MonsterDavid> should make a topic about how each update ruins all the fixes made in the previous update
[20:49:24] <Freenex> _Surefyre: true
[20:49:28] <_Surefyre> Every. Damn. Update.
[20:50:30] <_Nuke Unturned> lol
[20:50:37] <Freenex> ppl paste their damn 200 lines of error code in topics...
[20:50:51] <_Surefyre> I had to. Its sorta my thing lol
[20:50:52] <Freenex> I prefer pastebin
[20:50:59] <_Nuke Unturned> like massive errors and STEAMPS3
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[20:51:32] <_Surefyre> lol
[20:51:49] <_lawlykilla> fking updates
[20:51:56] <_Nuke Unturned> and still players online xD
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[20:52:29] <_Surefyre> lmao, i took my servers down. console flooding with errors makes sorting through logs a pain in the arse.
[20:52:41] <_lawlykilla> -.-
[20:52:54] <_MonsterDavid> same here
[20:52:55] <_lawlykilla> well i guess i turn my serv off
[20:52:57] <_Nuke Unturned> aaah well u know wichs error logs it are so just remove them x
[20:53:00] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[20:53:03] <_lawlykilla> and rape some kids on freen's server
[20:53:08] <_Surefyre> lol
[20:53:18] <_Surefyre> Dont rape kids. Thats illegal.
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[20:53:26] <_MonsterDavid> no shit sherlock
[20:53:34] <_MonsterDavid> ur job is done here
[20:53:56] <_Surefyre> What crawled up your rectum?
[20:54:15] <_Surefyre> It was a joke, captain not-so-obvious :P
[20:54:34] <Freenex> Guys.. Keep calm
[20:54:56] <_Nuke Unturned> i dated all girls allready from my server
[20:55:01] <_Nuke Unturned> they are like 10 a 11
[20:55:06] <_MonsterDavid> lol
[20:55:09] <_Surefyre> hahah oh christ
[20:55:13] <Freenex> Wth
[20:55:16] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[20:55:19] <_lawlykilla> lol
[20:55:25] <_lawlykilla> your server also broken?
[20:55:27] <_lawlykilla> cant type shit
[20:55:30] <_Nuke Unturned> ye
[20:55:34] <_Nuke Unturned> chat bugged
[20:55:34] <_Surefyre> 10 will get you 20 sir.
[20:55:49] <_Surefyre> lmao
[20:56:01] <_Nuke Unturned> for a cigaret they do everything
[20:56:04] <_Nuke Unturned> from that age
[20:56:05] <_lawlykilla> chat bugged and cant spawn shit
[20:56:07] <_lawlykilla> lol
[20:56:08] <_Surefyre> hahahaha
[20:56:25] <_Nuke Unturned> hahahaha
[20:56:31] <_Nuke Unturned> jonking wont do that -.-
[20:56:35] <_Nuke Unturned> \joking
[20:57:00] <_lawlykilla> /not funny
[20:57:33] <_Surefyre> joke =/= funny
[20:58:07] <_Nuke Unturned> well it is kinda funny just not if its ur daughter XD
[20:58:19] <_lawlykilla> face palm-.-
[20:58:22] <_Surefyre> statement = true;
[20:58:24] <_Surefyre> lol
[21:01:23] <_Dark5819> This problem probably has to do with Nelson's bullshit cheat filter crap
[21:02:10] <_Surefyre> That actually makes sense. I was just thinking about that
[21:02:23] <_lawlykilla> O.o
[21:03:07] <_Dark5819> Probably screw every command there is which is why we have this
[21:03:48] <_Surefyre> Yeah lol
[21:04:33] <Leo> hmm... if there is no chance this will kill all rocket enabled servers
[21:04:49] <Leo> who's gonna join a "cheats enabled" server ?
[21:05:07] <Leo> so, vanilla
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[21:05:37] <Freenex> Rocket has no anti cheat
[21:07:18] <fr34kyn01535> so
[21:07:23] <fr34kyn01535> i heard nelson broke it :D
[21:07:35] <Freenex> A normal friday
[21:07:40] <_Surefyre> thats the word through the grape vine lol.
[21:08:01] <_Surefyre> I figure on friday, theres always one update and 3 or 4 hotfixes. lmao
[21:08:09] <fr34kyn01535> making gread progress on the docker image
[21:08:16] <fr34kyn01535> its 300mb tho, mono is forkin big
[21:08:22] <fr34kyn01535> adding auto updating unturned & rocket
[21:08:26] <fr34kyn01535> great*
[21:08:32] <_Surefyre> holy crap.
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[21:09:13] <Freenex> fr34kyn01535: you read my message?
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[21:09:20] <fr34kyn01535> nope
[21:09:26] <_Nuke Unturned> so is it fixed ?
[21:09:31] <fr34kyn01535> btw a freebie for you
[21:09:33] <fr34kyn01535> ./steamcmd.sh +login unturnedrocksupdate force_update +app_info_update 1 +app_info_print 304930 +quit | grep -e "buildid" -m 1 | tr "\"buildid\"" " " | sed -r 's/\s*(.*?)\s*$/\1/'
[21:09:45] <fr34kyn01535> thats the way to get latest unturned version with steamcmd
[21:09:49] <_Robob12> did nelson break chat?
[21:09:49] <fr34kyn01535> for checking if update is required
[21:10:09] <_Robob12> cause currently no one can like use the chat or something
[21:10:15] <_Robob12> did it break or something
[21:10:23] <_Nuke Unturned> freakin
[21:10:30] <_Nuke Unturned> i got rocket mod tool
[21:10:43] <_Nuke Unturned> with API
[21:11:05] <_Nuke Unturned> i shouldnt do anything right just open rocket manager?
[21:11:21] <_Surefyre> I use the unturned server organizer and rocket API. Pretty simple setup.
[21:11:45] <_Nuke Unturned> never used that
[21:12:00] <_Robob12> does the chat work for you guys?
[21:12:03] <_Alvetor> i got many errors and commands are not working...
[21:12:05] <_Robob12> or did it break
[21:12:10] <Freenex> No
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[21:13:29] <_lawlykilla> -.-
[21:14:06] <fr34kyn01535> ?
[21:14:09] <fr34kyn01535> what is rocket manager
[21:14:42] <Freenex> I only know that organizer
[21:15:02] <_lawlykilla> any1 got it working yet?
[21:15:03] <_MATTI9> Exactly
[21:15:18] <Freenex> wait4update
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[21:15:41] <_lawlykilla> cya tomoro then
[21:15:59] <_birinorama> Wait for Nelson to fully kill his own game :P
[21:16:03] <_Surefyre> lol
[21:16:14] <_MATTI9> :P
[21:16:16] <fr34kyn01535> i am not at home
[21:16:30] <fr34kyn01535> the only thing i could do is "guessing" and let jenkins rebuild
[21:16:39] <fr34kyn01535> but people will go crazy on 20 updates now
[21:16:52] <Freenex> Its not rockets fault I guess
[21:17:27] <Freenex> But I bet you could fix it using your phone ;D
[21:17:40] <_Surefyre> Rocket did nothing wrong, I blame the government.
[21:18:40] <_Nuke Unturned> huh -.-
[21:18:48] <_birinorama> dark forces are in question here
[21:18:58] <_birinorama> or nelson, however you want to call it
[21:18:59] <_birinorama> :D
[21:19:07] <_Nuke Unturned> https://rocketmod.net/viewtopic.php?t=140
[21:19:19] <_Nuke Unturned> [TOOL] RocketManager v1.8.3
[21:19:53] <Freenex> Ah that one
[21:20:05] <_Nuke Unturned> works good
[21:20:24] <_Nuke Unturned> didnt do anything sinds i got that one
[21:21:05] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Patch build #54: SUCCESS in 6.5 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Patch/54/
fr34kyn01535: Update ChatManager.cs
[21:21:24] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned build #868: SUCCESS in 10 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned/868/
[21:21:29] <_birinorama> Hey guys, it might be rocket :S I'm testing local server and have no errors
[21:21:38] <_Surefyre> ok
[21:21:54] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Linux build #515: SUCCESS in 10 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Linux/515/
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[21:22:17] <_Nuke Unturned> nice
[21:22:18] <_Nuke Unturned> xD
[21:22:42] <_birinorama> but commands do not work, just no errors :D
[21:23:19] <fr34kyn01535> that was wrong
[21:23:24] <fr34kyn01535> to tell me where i am at
[21:23:26] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Patch build #55: SUCCESS in 7.3 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Patch/55/
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[21:23:41] <fr34kyn01535> in ChatManager.process i inject a method to test permissions
[21:23:50] <fr34kyn01535> i have to find the new right index since nelson added code to it
[21:23:53] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned build #869: SUCCESS in 19 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned/869/
[21:23:56] <_birinorama> Well, there you go I guess :D
[21:23:59] <fr34kyn01535> i was at 8, now i tried 11 without success
[21:24:04] <fr34kyn01535> now trying 12
[21:24:24] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Linux build #516: SUCCESS in 21 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Linux/516/
[21:24:33] <_birinorama> I just got a HEART SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:24:49] <_Nuke Unturned> who carez
[21:25:06] <_birinorama> fr34ky
[21:26:09] <_Dark5819> Lets just agree that Nelson wants to kill off this game by screwing with both the players and the servers with his untested, BS
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[21:27:29] <_Surefyre> He doesnt have a sandbox or dev server? I figured he'd test stuff before his patches.
[21:27:33] <_Alvetor> Nelson must stop updating the game every week...
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[21:28:14] <fr34kyn01535> now tryin 14 ;D
[21:28:30] <fr34kyn01535> he initially promised me to send me testbuilds
[21:28:32] <fr34kyn01535> never happened
[21:28:33] <_a4834833> freaky you fix the chat ?
[21:28:36] <_Rocketeer1243> guys
[21:28:38] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Patch build #56: SUCCESS in 19 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Patch/56/
fr34kyn01535: Update ChatManager.cs
[21:28:43] <fr34kyn01535> workin on it
[21:28:44] <fr34kyn01535> guessin right index
[21:28:46] <_Rocketeer1243> is rocket screwing up your server?
[21:28:47] <fr34kyn01535> am on my mobile
[21:28:53] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned build #870: SUCCESS in 9.5 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned/870/
[21:29:06] <_birinorama> and how do we know if it's correct? xD
[21:29:11] <Jenkins> Project Rocket.Unturned Linux build #517: SUCCESS in 9.2 sec: https://ci.rocketmod.net/job/Rocket.Unturned%20Linux/517/
[21:29:15] <_MATTI9> Rocketeer it never does
[21:29:19] <fr34kyn01535> trying with github editor, jenkins and a mobile decompiler :D
[21:29:20] <_Rocketeer1243> My players get modified assembly when they try to join any reason y?
[21:29:24] <Freenex> He will let you know
[21:29:26] <_Rocketeer1243> i removed rocket and stop
[21:29:32] <_Surefyre> Go freaky go! You beautiful bastard!
[21:29:38] <_Surefyre> LOL
[21:29:49] <_a4834833> Freaky You try to fix it From your phone ?
[21:29:51] <_dzonyloker> It works now !
[21:30:08] <fr34kyn01535> yep
[21:30:11] <fr34kyn01535> latest should work
[21:30:16] <fr34kyn01535> public static bool process(SteamPlayer player, string text)
        {
            string str = text.Substring(0, 1);
            if (!(str == "@") && !(str == "/"))
            {
                return true;
            }
            if (Interface.CheckPermissions(player, text))
            {
                Commander.execute(player.playerID.steamID, text.Substring(1));
            }
            return false;
        }

[21:30:18] <fr34kyn01535> looks good
[21:30:37] <_birinorama> fr34ky you beautiful bastard!
[21:30:42] <fr34kyn01535> i just did _a4834833
[21:30:57] <_MATTI9> Haha: "Nelson: You can paste this link into your browser to join:  steam://connect/52.39.31.198:27016 "
[21:31:13] <_a4834833> Hohohoh
[21:31:21] <_birinorama> Join to tell him to give fr34ky code next time!
[21:31:43] <_a4834833> Someone Tell me nelson Give The Code The Hackers
[21:31:46] <_a4834833> to dev new version
[21:31:51] <_a4834833> the beta
[21:32:10] <_a4834833> The Hacks Back ):
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[21:32:48] <_a4834833> ESP , Show Player In The Map , Aimbot , Fly vehicle
[21:32:52] <_Rocketeer1243> The hackers?
[21:33:00] <_a4834833> The Dev of Hacks
[21:33:04] <_Rocketeer1243> Wait is that what cheats do?
[21:33:05] <_MATTI9> "The "give", "experience" and "vehicle" commands are still admin-only, but are now also limited to servers/singleplayer with cheats enabled." does this mean I have to enable this to use the Kits plugin ?
[21:33:19] <fr34kyn01535> yes u have to enable cheats
[21:33:21] <fr34kyn01535> ....
[21:33:22] <_a4834833> Yes They dev cheats
[21:33:25] <fr34kyn01535> what a stupid shit
[21:33:33] <_Kohai> That is retardded
[21:33:36] <fr34kyn01535> yes
[21:33:37] <_Rocketeer1243> yes
[21:33:37] <_MATTI9> My question ?
[21:33:39] <fr34kyn01535> tell him please
[21:33:43] <fr34kyn01535> write a tweet
[21:33:55] <_Rocketeer1243> and the way the unturned setup is stupid and confusing
[21:33:55] <fr34kyn01535> i will retweet
[21:33:59] <_Rocketeer1243> i like the old one
[21:34:03] <_MATTI9> fr34ky you can directly contact him
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[21:34:06] <fr34kyn01535> i can
[21:34:09] <fr34kyn01535> i told him its bullshit
[21:34:15] <_Rocketeer1243> lol
[21:34:16] <_MATTI9> Awesome :D
[21:34:30] <_Surefyre> are you shitting me?
[21:34:48] <Freenex> Serious?
[21:35:18] <fr34kyn01535> wha?
[21:35:22] <fr34kyn01535> he proposed it
[21:35:32] <fr34kyn01535> initially he wanted to put it into his commands
[21:35:38] <fr34kyn01535> i was like naa, you should decouple that
[21:35:41] <fr34kyn01535> i made it worse
[21:35:45] <_Rocketeer1243> lol
[21:35:46] <fr34kyn01535> now it applies to all commands
[21:35:50] <_Surefyre> lol
[21:35:54] <fr34kyn01535> i should shut up next time
[21:36:04] <_Surefyre> nah
[21:36:05] <_MATTI9> Haha
[21:36:06] <Freenex> xF
[21:36:50] <_birinorama> wait, the commands are not getting registered with last rocket build?
[21:37:13] <Leo> default setting is "cheats off" in server list
[21:37:14] <Freenex> Nelson should add a fly command and better spectator mode (where you can see their names)
[21:37:24] <Leo> this means servers with rocket won't show
[21:37:30] <_Kohai> rip all kit servers
[21:37:32] <Leo> so, goodbye
[21:37:41] <Freenex> Wut
[21:37:47] <_a4834833> http://imgur.com/UWbTzr9
[21:37:48] <Leo> what I told
[21:38:17] <Leo> majority of players won't touch default settings
[21:38:19] <fr34kyn01535> _a483 thats bullshit hahaha
[21:38:24] <fr34kyn01535> you believe them? :D
[21:38:24] <Freenex> Lol
[21:38:31] <fr34kyn01535> ur stupid :D
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[21:39:46] <_Surefyre> so do I have to remove kits now? my players are getting pissed lol
[21:39:49] <_a4834833> Idk , But After Min From The Update He Stream Unturned With The New Hacks
[21:40:33] <_MATTI9> Surefyre simple add "Cheats" to the "Commands.dat"
[21:40:50] <_a4834833> http://i.imgur.com/RHPjhCq.png
[21:40:53] <_Surefyre> thanks buddy
[21:40:56] <Freenex> Omg all the ppl should get vac banned instantly
[21:41:10] <fr34kyn01535> fr34kyn01535: no rocket servers will be shown
fr34kyn01535: same as no workshop servers are shown
fr34kyn01535: nelson?
fr34kyn01535: do you do this for a reason?
fr34kyn01535: do you want your community pissed off?
Nelson: why are rocket servers cheats on?
fr34kyn01535: server admins WANT customization
Nelson: cheats = give items, spawn vehicles, spawn exp
fr34kyn01535: that was what i was trying you to say
fr34kyn01535: everybody but noobs will enable this
Nelson: if it's a normal rocket server it will show up just normally
Nelson: although I guess we will see what the server ratio is
fr34kyn01535: people dont want cheats off with rocket
fr34kyn01535: the reason they install it is for the customization

[21:41:24] <fr34kyn01535> peeps please
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[21:41:30] <fr34kyn01535> do petitions
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[21:41:35] <fr34kyn01535> ask you people to nag him
[21:41:41] <fr34kyn01535> tell him on twitter that its wrong
[21:41:44] <fr34kyn01535> he doesnt listen to meh :S
[21:41:45] <_MikeRocksGames> can someone help me with the new rocket update?
[21:42:29] <_MATTI9> Fr34ky what do I exactly have to tweet ?
[21:42:41] <fr34kyn01535> whatever you dislike
[21:43:08] <Freenex> I need to make a twitter account first :/
[21:43:23] <Freenex> He should join this chat
[21:43:33] <_MikeRocksGames> just need help with it saying modified assembly
[21:43:36] <_MATTI9> Yes; let him join this chat
[21:43:42] <_MATTI9> So we can tell him whats up
[21:44:47] <_Surefyre> Put his ass in the hot seat
[21:45:56] <Freenex> So he didnt answered you?
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[21:47:14] <fr34kyn01535> ,,
[21:47:16] <fr34kyn01535> i dont get it
[21:47:17] <fr34kyn01535> ...
[21:47:21] <fr34kyn01535> i dont like th system
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[21:47:35] <fr34kyn01535> well if he wants this
[21:47:44] <fr34kyn01535> he is making the community angry ;D
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[21:48:11] <_MATTI9> Really angry
[21:48:22] <Freenex> You could give yourself exp with feexexp :D
[21:48:26] <_Kohai> I will literally close all 7 of my servers and leave unturned for good if this update sticks.
[21:48:27] <_MATTI9> Haha
[21:48:30] <fr34kyn01535> i ask him to join
[21:48:42] <fr34kyn01535> prepare your arguments
[21:48:43] <fr34kyn01535> ;D
[21:48:53] <fr34kyn01535> asked*
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[21:48:57] <_MATTI9> Good
[21:49:00] <Freenex> My english not god
[21:49:05] <_MATTI9> :P
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[21:49:14] <_MATTI9> Arguments > ready
[21:49:15] <_Dark5819> lets keep a close eye on his trello page from now on
[21:49:36] <_Dark5819> and instead of voting up for his trello we need a discussion
[21:49:46] <_sewmeister> nelson are your mom and dad sister and brother?
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[21:50:04] <_SDGNelson> Hey
[21:50:07] <_MATTI9> Hi
[21:50:09] <_sewmeister> hi
[21:50:10] <_MonsterDavid> hi
[21:50:11] <Freenex> Hey
[21:50:12] <_Surefyre> Hey nelson
[21:50:18] <_SDGNelson> How's it going? :)
[21:50:21] <fr34kyn01535> yep dats him
[21:50:23] <_MATTI9> BAD
[21:50:27] <_Surefyre> Angry.
[21:50:29] <_MonsterDavid> really bad
[21:50:31] <_SDGNelson> Bleh ok the cheats thing:
[21:50:35] <_SDGNelson> The intent is:
[21:50:35] <_MATTI9> Not only
[21:50:53] <_SDGNelson> Disablign cheats disables spawning items for yourself, spawning vehicles for yourself and spawning experience for yourself
[21:51:02] <_SDGNelson> The intent is NOT to prevent kits or anything that is fun
[21:51:26] <_Surefyre> Is that not what its doing though?
[21:51:26] <_SDGNelson> But on public servers an issue is abusive admins giving themselves loads of high end gear which is NOT fun for everyone else
[21:51:40] <_SDGNelson> So if you turn on cheats mode you can still spawn stuff for yourself
[21:51:44] <_SDGNelson> But with cheats off you can't
[21:51:55] <_SDGNelson> I think 99% of plugins are still fine
[21:52:09] <_SDGNelson> like kits, anything whatever is fun :)
[21:52:15] <fr34kyn01535> my kits wont ;D
[21:52:16] <_MATTI9> It's not only "fun" > it's our revenue
[21:52:22] <_dzonyloker> but other commands not work propetly - /buy
[21:52:27] <fr34kyn01535> i use  itemtool.giveitem

[21:52:28] <_SDGNelson> ok e.g. economy plugin
[21:52:35] <_SDGNelson> that is 100% okay
[21:52:37] <_SDGNelson> because anyone can use it
[21:52:39] <Freenex> I think its not the right way to prevent admin abuse. And like sven said we want to customize our servers without shown as cheat server
[21:52:50] <_Surefyre> Except the only plugins my players like, which is kits, which dont work unless i enable cheats.
[21:52:54] <_SDGNelson> you don't need cheats enabled for economy, bug, kits, whatever
[21:53:00] <_SDGNelson> well at least you shouldn't
[21:53:02] <fr34kyn01535> i think its not a way at all since admins could write themselve rocket commands to prevent the no-cheat barrier
[21:53:05] <_SDGNelson> some code changes are needed
[21:53:14] <_Surefyre> Well, it wasnt giving items when theyd do /kit kitname
[21:53:20] <_SDGNelson> SO
[21:53:23] <_Surefyre> just failed to give items
[21:53:32] <_SDGNelson> for the plugins that use code which is cheat protected e.g. giveitem
[21:53:35] <_Kohai> All item and exp related plugins do not work without cheats enabled.
[21:53:39] <_SDGNelson> just swap it around a bit to directly give the player an item
[21:53:42] <_SDGNelson> for experience
[21:54:01] <_SDGNelson> I there is "askPay" which does the same as before
[21:54:01] <fr34kyn01535> well i have global proxies for that
[21:54:07] <fr34kyn01535> like rocketcommand.giveItem()
[21:54:09] <fr34kyn01535> sorry
[21:54:13] <fr34kyn01535> rockerplayer.giveItem()
[21:54:17] <Freenex> Yea but whats the point of this update then?
[21:54:18] <fr34kyn01535> and rocketplayer.giveXP
[21:54:20] <fr34kyn01535> which i have to ficx
[21:54:27] <_SDGNelson> Okay
[21:54:30] <_SDGNelson> Let me explain better
[21:54:31] <fr34kyn01535> but yea, /i will still work in no cheat mode
[21:54:32] <fr34kyn01535> or /v
[21:54:42] <_SDGNelson> DO NOT make plugins that avoid the cheat thing, because there is no reason to
[21:54:56] <_SDGNelson> I modified the existing code to block all cases which means some modification is needed
[21:55:06] <Leo> can you change the kits fr34kyn01535 ?
[21:55:10] <_SDGNelson> if the plugin is doing something cheating like giving yourself items, continue using the existing method
[21:55:11] <Leo> so it works ?
[21:55:12] <_dzonyloker> DO NOT make plugins stupid updates :(
[21:55:26] <_SDGNelson> if it's not doing something cheating then no issue
[21:55:37] <_MATTI9> @SDG beside the whole "Cheats" thing: could you please test updates before we have a lot of trouble on the server side ?
[21:55:58] <_SDGNelson> The update is seemingly pretty solid, no issues on the vanilla server
[21:55:58] <_Dark5819> how about we just let the community decide what is admin abuse instead
[21:56:19] <_MATTI9> agree with Dark
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[21:56:26] <fr34kyn01535> +1
[21:56:29] <_Rocketeer1243> Nelson i put that join ur server link in browser and it dont do nothing
[21:56:29] <_dzonyloker> Friday is a nightmare for server owners
[21:56:30] <Freenex> Yep
[21:56:31] <_Surefyre> +2
[21:56:35] <_Dark5819> back before you fixed the void spaces in barns and stuff
[21:56:36] <_Rocketeer1243> same
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[21:56:45] <_SDGNelson> How about this suggestion:
[21:56:51] <_SDGNelson> giveItem has a new param isCheat
[21:56:55] <_SDGNelson> by default isCheat is false
[21:56:58] <_Dark5819> me and my admins had to invis and tp to those exploiters and where do we get c4 to get rid of their exploits???
[21:57:02] <_SDGNelson> all existing plugins will work with cheats off
[21:57:05] <_Dark5819> /give and /i
[21:57:13] <_SDGNelson> then if it IS a cheat you pass isCheat = true
[21:57:20] <_Dark5819> was that admin abuse? no we did what we had to do
[21:57:21] <_SDGNelson> for example @give will set isCheat to true
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[21:57:31] <fr34kyn01535> thats a better way coding wise, but who says what is a cheat and what not?
[21:57:37] <fr34kyn01535> do i have to be the control instance now?
[21:57:45] <_SDGNelson> up to the plugin devs, for most cases it's not a cheat
[21:57:46] <Freenex> But there are also "bad" devs
[21:57:50] <fr34kyn01535> and if people dont like that they will start upload to other pages
[21:57:58] <Freenex> Yea
[21:58:02] <_SDGNelson> only 3 things are cheats:
[21:58:04] <fr34kyn01535> and i loose completely control over the plugin spread
[21:58:04] <_SDGNelson> giving yourself items
[21:58:07] <_SDGNelson> giving yourself vehicles
[21:58:09] <_Dark5819> we got called admin abuse by the exploiters when we have a set of rules stating dont exploit and guess what the other players supported our actions as we exposed and got rid of these exploiters who screwed the fun for miultiple people already
[21:58:10] <_SDGNelson> giving yourself experience
[21:58:51] <_Rocketeer1243> honestly i thought the so called "Cheat" Was gonna add option For Fly and and invisibility and god in Vanilla servers
[21:58:57] <_dzonyloker> u still can add those things by console ....
[21:59:11] <fr34kyn01535> uh, what about vanish sdgnelson?
[21:59:52] <_Dark5819> if that is considered a cheat then the game is over as we cannot monitor exploiters and suspected cheaters safely
[21:59:53] <fr34kyn01535> well, nelson i wont and cant controll if people using rocket keep up with your no-cheat policy
[21:59:55] <_Dark5819> same for god
[22:00:03] <_Surefyre> Shh.. He's googling.
[22:00:20] <fr34kyn01535> and even if you completely block rocket, that would not prevent it
[22:00:26] <Freenex> +1
[22:00:41] <fr34kyn01535> admins and hosters seek customizationability
[22:00:48] <_Rocketeer1243> Exactly
[22:00:55] <_MATTI9> I understand there are 2 two sides of this "Cheats"; but the communication between SDG and server owners is so bad which I think is very important because well a lot of Unturned players play online on our servers
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[22:01:11] <_Surefyre> We dont seek a governing entity that says whether we're "Abusing" or not.
[22:01:11] <_SDGNelson> Back sorry
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[22:01:16] <_SDGNelson> Okay
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[22:01:25] <_Surefyre> let the server staff and players decide that.
[22:01:26] <fr34kyn01535> read my chat pls nelson
[22:01:29] <_SDGNelson> I'm going to put out a patch which adds the isCheat param
[22:01:43] <_SDGNelson> it's up to plugin devs to call the method with isCheat = true
[22:02:02] <_SDGNelson> I hope you are responsible and fair to the players with your decisions over whether to do this
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[22:02:21] <_SDGNelson> obviously you can make commands like spawning items not a cheat, but I'd of course prefer for the server to match the filters
[22:02:27] <_dzonyloker> xD if cheats OFF, admins still can wrote /give command by server console
[22:02:29] <_SDGNelson> things like kits, economy, buy, whatever are NOT cheats
[22:02:33] <_Dark5819> like the past 10 updates has rally screwed hs server owners. FPS drops for players, corrupt save files, disconnecting problems
[22:02:40] <_SDGNelson> @give in the server console does not work with cheats off
[22:02:53] <fr34kyn01535> ok nelson
[22:02:57] <fr34kyn01535> the technical solution is better
[22:03:15] <_Rocketeer1243> I agree with dark
[22:03:16] <_MATTI9> SDG the "kits" plugin also uses xp
[22:03:24] <fr34kyn01535> but i will allow plugins to the repo that dont follow that policy if thats all they do wrong
[22:03:53] <Freenex> Yea but no one wants to make a plugin where isCheat is true because less ppl will download it then
[22:03:54] <fr34kyn01535> i will change rockets build in commands tho to follow it
[22:04:05] <fr34kyn01535> even less will join freenex
[22:04:13] <fr34kyn01535> cause they dont see them by default
[22:04:28] <_Surefyre> Agreed, Dark. Love the random d/c issue. and corrupt saves.
[22:04:44] <_Rocketeer1243> @SDG My Unturned White screens For like 10 mins before it actualy starts game
[22:04:48] <_Dark5819> this is still tonna be about the same as before. we might as well keep the damn thing and screw the servers over now than to end up screeing again later
[22:04:49] <_Surefyre> Its gonna SUCK for servers that dont have an established player base
[22:05:23] <_birinorama> this chat lives only on fridays xD
[22:05:35] <_MATTI9> Always :P
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[22:05:48] <_DarkElement> @_birinorama so much true ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[22:05:51] <_Dark5819> why waste time trying to fix something that cant be fixed...we cant have the freedom of using commands anymore. arguement over
[22:06:09] <_DarkElement> what q.q
[22:06:16] <_DarkElement> (sry not in the topic)
[22:06:17] <_Rocketeer1243> Im gonna delete all my servers and tell players to go on others servers for few days cause every time a new update comes outt i gotta remake my server and its really anowing to have to do it repeatedley
[22:06:18] <_Kohai> @surefyre, it sucks for servers with an established playerbase too. Since nobody stays forever. At least the isCheat param will allow us to have kits and stuff.
[22:06:50] <_birinorama> MAKE UNTURNED AND ROCKET GREAT AGAIN! I'll GIVE YOU SMALL LOAN OF MILLION DOLLARS!
[22:06:58] <_DarkElement> xD
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[22:07:07] <_Surefyre> Not arguing that, I know that for a fact Kohai.
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[22:07:22] <_lawlykilla> how the fk i get rid of modified assembly ?!!
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[22:07:49] <_DarkElement> lawly, i'm everytime pissed on this error, so im always reinstalling server :c
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[22:07:54] <_birinorama> you can't, you are doomed :D
[22:07:56] <_DarkElement> and then it works
[22:08:01] <_lawlykilla> lol
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[22:08:16] <_DarkElement> like right now, im downloading unturned :/
[22:08:24] <_lawlykilla> -.-
[22:08:43] <_Dark5819> bye unturned its been a good 5 months. done with all this BS
[22:08:45] <_Surefyre> Im canceling all my dedicated server pcs
[22:08:53] <_Surefyre> I hosted 6 servers
[22:08:54] <_lawlykilla> how the other servers are running?
[22:08:54] <_Rocketeer1243> sane
[22:08:59] <_Surefyre> almost always full
[22:09:30] <_Surefyre> then the constant bullshittery that goes on on almost every update has withered my player base down. GG Nelson.
[22:09:30] <_dzonyloker> Surefyre not now because cheats on :P
[22:09:45] <fr34kyn01535> ok gtg eat
[22:09:51] <_Surefyre> later Freaky.
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[22:09:55] <_lawlykilla> can some1 tell me how others got their servers running?
[22:09:57] <_MATTI9> Nelson isn't it a good idea to change the "weekly updates" to "monthly updates"
[22:10:01] <_birinorama> The population and popularity of this chat suddenly skyrocketed with latest version, intredasting. :D
[22:10:10] <_Surefyre> or Bi-Weekly for christ sake?
[22:10:12] <_Rocketeer1243> lol right?
[22:11:03] <_birinorama> SDGNelson, you should visit more often, it's like christmas in here now :D
[22:11:27] <_Surefyre> Like a long lost cousin we went to summer camp with, and played doctor together.
[22:11:31] <_Dark5819> one hell of a Christmas
[22:12:14] <_MATTI9> birinorama as I said; the communication between the developer and server owners should be better  :)