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- [12:15:58] 9Destra: and also Agassi wouldn't be complete without some Fire-Type attacks
- [12:16:07] +Salient: Why..
- [12:16:17] +Salient: it has nothing to do with fire type attacks
- [12:16:40] 9Destra: also, kizzo says I can keep the moves on there
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- [12:17:45] 9Destra: besides, a fair amount of Ground and Rock-Types get Flamethrower and Fire Blast
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- [12:18:49] +Salient: Golem, Rampardos, Rhyperior, Ttar, Bastiodon
- [12:18:50] 9Destra: and a lot of the Rock-Types that get Flamethrower are also in the Monster Egg Group
- [12:19:07] +Salient: Also, give it rock climb by Egg Move or level up
- [12:19:12] +Salient: we're using ORAS's TMs
- [12:19:26] 9Destra: oh... Okay, will do
- [12:19:50] +Salient: Note how none of those really resemble a tortoise/turtle
- [12:21:18] +Kim BC: don't tortoise like to stay cool
- [12:21:25] +Kim BC: idr
- [12:21:52] +Salient: not desert tortoises
- [12:22:04] #kizzo212: well. I did say if you were to keep flamethrower you should justify it somewhat
- [12:22:15] +Salient: o forgot to paste quote
- [12:22:17] +Salient: "In regards to learning fire moves, Whether you keep Flamethrower and Fire blast is up to you, but I think you need to maybe make it clearer why it gets those moves. "
- [12:22:24] +Salient: -kizzo212
- [12:22:35] +Kim BC: some desert ground pokes get fire moves tru
- [12:22:45] #kizzo212: and by "Maybe you should leave it until a little bit later just for balance." I kinda meant more like moving it to around lv20
- [12:22:47] +Kim BC: idk about tortoise tho
- [12:22:48] #kizzo212: as opposed to lv4
- [12:23:00] +Salient: because it can absorb heat doesn't mean it should get fire type moves
- /ds ground type, fire blast, !fire type:
- Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Geodude, Graveler, Golem, Cubone, Marowak, Rhyhorn, Rhydon, Flygon, and 6 more. Redo the search with 'all' as a search parameter to show all results.
- [12:23:07] #kizzo212: well. if you say its a close relative of torkoal or some shit like that
- /ds ground type, fire blast, !fire type, all:
- Arceus-Ground, Cubone, Flygon, Gabite, Garchomp, Geodude, Gible, Golem, Graveler, Groudon, Marowak, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Rhydon, Rhyhorn, Rhyperior
- [12:23:17] #kizzo212: then it kinda makes more sense but idk
- [12:23:25] +Salient: even still
- [12:23:26] +Kim BC: abosrbing heat =/= emitting heat
- [12:23:49] +Kim BC: give it heatproof
- [12:23:56] +Kim BC: over sap sipper
- [12:23:56] +Salient: my cousin is amazing at sports, but i cant play fo shit
- [12:24:09] #kizzo212: !ds ground type, flamethrower, !fire type, !dragon type all
- Arceus-Ground, Cubone, Geodude, Golem, Graveler, Groudon, Marowak, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Rhydon, Rhyhorn, Rhyperior
- [12:24:10] +Kim BC: what sports do they play
- [12:24:21] #kizzo212: like. idk. it could work
- [12:24:39] #kizzo212: but maybe its just a gen1 being silly thing
- [12:24:41] +Salient: those are all gen-1 mons
- [12:24:43] +Salient: lmao
- [12:24:52] +Salient: minus rhyperior, but his prevo is
- [12:24:54] +Kim BC: we need a way to refer this gen 1 silliness
- [12:25:02] +Salient: "Early GF dumbness?"
- [12:25:06] +Kim BC: too long
- [12:25:12] +Kim BC: also
- [12:25:17] +Kim BC: sandile gets fire moves
- [12:25:28] +Salient: incinerate, fire fang
- [12:25:30] +Kim BC: not flamethrower tho
- [12:25:31] +Salient: and another one that id
- [12:25:33] +Salient: idr*
- [12:25:41] +Salient: oh and hp fire
- [12:25:56] +Kim BC: garchomp as well
- [12:26:11] +Salient: but he's a dragon and a pseudo so
- [12:26:18] +Kim BC: oh
- [12:26:35] #kizzo212: yeah. i did !fire !dragon cos thats what makes them getting the fire move make sense
- [12:26:53] +Salient: i actually like the heatproof idea
- [12:27:01] +Kim BC: yea
- [12:27:03] +Kim BC: makes sense
- [12:27:14] +Kim BC: also
- [12:27:22] +Kim BC: would torkoal count as a desert toroise
- [12:27:28] +Salient: nah, more volcano
- [12:27:34] +Salient: plus it's afire type
- [12:28:32] +Kim BC: i think agassi should just get a smal fire move
- [12:28:43] +Salient: such as?
- [12:29:01] +pokemonvortex: isnt heatproof a signature
- [12:29:04] +Kim BC: no
- [12:29:07] +Salient: dont think so
- [12:29:09] +Salient: !ds heatproof
- Bronzong, Bronzor
- [12:29:11] +Salient: o
- [12:29:17] +Kim BC: rlly
- [12:29:21] +pokemonvortex: you didnt know
- [12:29:23] +Kim BC: could've sworn it wasn't
- [12:29:26] #kizzo212: well its getting fire fang isnt it?
- [12:29:30] +pokemonvortex: whole reason why bronzong has no weaknesses in pmd
- [12:29:37] +pokemonvortex: both abilities active
- [12:29:42] +Kim BC: there's a CAP mon with heatproof
- [12:29:58] +Salient: nope, kizzo
- [12:29:59] +pokemonvortex: naviathan
- [12:30:00] +Salient: just checked
- [12:30:04] +pokemonvortex: but it has water type
- [12:30:11] +Kim BC: so?
- [12:30:15] #kizzo212: dont really see a need for it to stay signature tho tbh
- [12:30:16] +Salient: so cute
- [12:30:23] +Kim BC: yea same
- [12:30:32] #kizzo212: and agassi does get fire fang
- [12:30:36] +Kim BC: i was thinking of a hack where cobalion got heatproof
- [12:30:47] +Salient: that was my meta
- [12:30:48] +Salient: o3o
- [12:30:51] +Kim BC: oooh
- [12:31:01] +Kim BC: agassi should only get one of these fire moves incinerate/fire blast
- [12:31:06] +Salient: not fblast
- [12:31:11] +Kim BC: why not
- [12:31:30] +Salient: because, fier blast is a blast of fire
- [12:31:34] +Kim BC: most pokemon with only one fire move that aren't fire typing themselves get fire blast
- [12:32:43] +pokemonvortex: its not weak to fire in the first place
- [12:33:02] +Kim BC: who? the CAP mon or agassi
- [12:33:06] salient showering: brb
- [12:33:52] #kizzo212: well.
- [12:33:59] #kizzo212: most things that get flamethrower get fire blast
- [12:34:13] +Kim BC: yea i suppose
- [12:34:56] #kizzo212: I guess giving it incinerate instead of flamethrower/fire blast could work
- [12:35:39] #kizzo212: its what sandile line and mandibuzz and scraggy get
- [12:36:02] #kizzo212: kinda a gen5 thing but eh
- [12:36:59] +Kim BC: there's a lot of other pokemon that get incinerate that aren't from gen5
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- [12:39:09] #kizzo212: !ds incinerate, !fire type, !fire blast, !flamethrower, all
- A search with the parameter 'all' cannot be broadcast.
- [12:39:14] +pokemonvortex: gj
- [12:39:18] #kizzo212: !ds incinerate, !fire type, !fire blast, !flamethrower
- Poochyena, Mightyena, Sableye, Honchkrow, Darkrai, Sandile, Krokorok, Krookodile, Scraggy, Scrafty, and 10 more. Redo the search with 'all' as a search parameter to show all results.
- [12:39:36] #kizzo212: yeah but the ones I mentioned are the desert ones
- [12:39:38] +pokemonvortex: Axew, Darkrai, Deino, Fraxure, Haxorus, Honchkrow, Krokorok, Krookodile, Mandibuzz, Mightyena, Poochyena, Sableye, Sandile, Scrafty, Scraggy, Thundurus, Tornadus, Vullaby, Zorua, Zweilous
- [12:40:34] +Kim BC: oh
- [12:41:37] +Kim BC: only 2 gens had a desert
- [12:41:41] +Kim BC: i think
- [12:41:44] +Kim BC: 3rd and 5th
- [12:42:20] +Kim BC: so that's why
- [12:42:53] +Kim BC: 3rd gen only had trapinch and sandlash in deserts while 5th gen had a lot
- [12:43:12] +Kim BC: even scrafty gets incinerate
- [12:43:28] #kizzo212: yeah. sandslash doesnt really have any fire moves tho
- [12:43:38] #kizzo212: but then in gen1 it wasnt found in the desert so idk
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