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(11:01:07) <@Brucelee1231> Here?
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(11:05:45) <@WF_SOUL> yes huni
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(11:05:58) <@Brucelee1231> Just us O_o
(11:06:48) <@WF_SOUL> no im pming the rest now
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(11:11:30) <@WF_SOUL> kk i pmed hawk
(11:11:37) <@WF_SOUL> hell be here in 5 mins
(11:11:55) <@Ianzz> do we want maria here also for eskimos?
(11:12:32) <@WF_SOUL> i think well get the other issues sorted first then bring her in
(11:12:38) <@WF_SOUL> regarding w9 issues
(11:12:50) <@Ianzz> ok
(11:14:14) <@WF_SOUL> pat any idea what time vithu gets in
(11:15:08) <@[DS]pat> nope
(11:15:17) <@WF_SOUL> kk
(11:16:33) <@[DS]pat> paint isn't back yet either, he had to fix a truck
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(11:16:59) <[ds0]Lady_Hawk> hey der
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(11:17:07) <@WF_SOUL> hi beth
(11:17:12) <[ds0]Lady_Hawk> =D
(11:17:13) <@Ianzz> hi hawks
(11:17:15) <[ds0]Lady_Hawk> hello
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(11:17:21) <[ds0]hawk_> ello
(11:17:24) <@WF_SOUL> hi hi
(11:17:26) <@Ianzz> take off secure ops
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(11:17:53) <@WF_SOUL> oops
(11:17:54) <@WF_SOUL> lmao
(11:17:56) <@Ianzz> blondie
(11:17:57) <@Ianzz> sheesh
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(11:19:01) <@WF_SOUL> ok all leads /owners and co leads here that are gonna attend?
(11:19:17) <@Ianzz> besides monkey yea
(11:19:23) <@[DS]pat> no paint and vithu would like to be here but i don't know when they will be
(11:22:53) <@WF_SOUL> yea i know vithu would like to be here
(11:22:59) <@WF_SOUL> ok let me say a few things to start
(11:24:48) <@WF_SOUL> were not her to point fingers, call names, make accusations were here to find solutions and get this alliance back on track and put all the uneeded drama to rest ,cause tbh its tearing this alliance apart and to all those looking in , we look like weve lost totall control of everything , so im gonna ask all to make requests not demands were not children and we all need to act like adults plz
(11:26:35) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ok, im ready :)
(11:26:48) <@Obsidia|meeting> Well the one main thing I would like to bring up, and I have talked to Vithu about it last night, as well as Pat today. But the issue of DR having Incognito ranked captain with them needs to get resolved.
(11:26:54) <@WF_SOUL> i know for the past 4 weeks ive seen from both sides accusations some real some not , alot of flaming from both sides alottt of disrespect, i know the 44 issue was a bad one but since then this alliance has taken a nose dive like ive never seen before, and the only ones that are caught in the middle are our members and other world alliances
(11:28:19) <@WF_SOUL> ok queen that incog issue was my fault i took him off when bruce brought it to my attention as he was already with eskimoes i should of checked with u first and i didnt for that i aplogize and take full responsibilty
(11:28:23) <@[DS]pat> it's resolved unless i can't trust the wa leader's word, i was told he was not on the blacklist when i accepted him to ds.
(11:28:31) <@WF_SOUL> ok pat
(11:28:39) <@WF_SOUL> he was already ranked with u
(11:28:39) <@Obsidia|meeting> Well, it needed to be voted on
(11:28:45) <@WF_SOUL> lets get that straight ok
(11:28:50) <@WF_SOUL> were gonna keep it real
(11:29:15) <@Obsidia|meeting> I have no issue if they would like to keep him, if Obbys are allowed to let Jord return to play with Obbys
(11:29:42) <@WF_SOUL> ur right queen and i take full responsibility but i didnt do it out of malicious intent the day bruce brought it to my attention is the first day i was made aware he was on obby bl
(11:29:44) <@[DS]pat> if you want someone who has backstabbed both obbys and ds be my guest. i really don't care.
(11:30:01) <@WF_SOUL> on the site he was under another name , and bruce clarified that with me
(11:30:09) <@WF_SOUL> again im sorry
(11:30:15) <@[DS]pat> but you didn't have a right to make him leave the channel either, he was the only caller.
(11:30:16) <@WF_SOUL> and it wont happen again u have my word
(11:30:52) <@Obsidia|meeting> I do have a right, when he is on the WA blacklist until it is clarified by wa clan owners
(11:31:13) <@Obsidia|meeting> Im not tryin to be vindictive, but if he's on the wa blacklist, it has to be resolved first
(11:31:23) <@[DS]pat> it was clearified.
(11:31:26) <@WF_SOUL> thats correct and i agree to that
(11:31:35) <@WF_SOUL> it really wasnt tho pat
(11:31:36) <@[DS]pat> so sorry speaking to sh1fter wasnt' good enough for you.
(11:31:39) <@WF_SOUL> if i failed to inform her
(11:31:45) <@[DS]pat> it was by what you said to me
(11:31:49) <@WF_SOUL> like i said it was my fault
(11:31:53) <@WF_SOUL> i didnt let queen know
(11:31:59) <@WF_SOUL> its not queens fault
(11:32:06) <@WF_SOUL> if she was following protocol
(11:32:10) <@[DS]pat> and my clan took the hit for it. she could of allowed him until it was fixed.
(11:32:11) <@Obsidia|meeting> That'd be like me letting in Balt to Obbys
(11:32:18) <@Obsidia|meeting> and say oh sorry, our issues are fixed
(11:32:32) <@Obsidia|meeting> doesnt make sense
(11:33:03) <@WF_SOUL> again lets find the solution, yesterday queen
(11:33:08) <@WF_SOUL> u made a suggestion
(11:33:14) <@[DS]pat> it was discussed and agreed on with the wa leader, how much more did i have to do? if the wa leader didn't tell me more then.....
(11:33:17) <@Obsidia|meeting> Vithu and I sorted it out last night and he agreed with me
(11:33:19) <@WF_SOUL> if ds kept incog youd keep jord
(11:33:23) <@WF_SOUL> did u still want that
(11:33:31) <@[DS]pat> vithu doesn't have the final say in ds, ever.
(11:33:40) <@WF_SOUL> i was told he did pat
(11:33:49) <@Obsidia|meeting> As well as I
(11:34:04) <@Obsidia|meeting> When it came to Obby/DS issues
(11:34:10) <@WF_SOUL> vithu
(11:34:13) <@[DS]pat> it has never been a final say, not once.
(11:34:18) <@WF_SOUL> was to handle all alliance issues
(11:34:29) <@WF_SOUL> thats what was told to me
(11:34:41) <@[DS]pat> did i say it? lol
(11:34:56) <@Brucelee1231> Who does then for future reference O_o
(11:34:58) <@WF_SOUL> vithu himself told me
(11:35:02) <@[DS]pat> me
(11:35:08) <@WF_SOUL> the day all the 44 issues went down
(11:35:19) <@Obsidia|meeting> I'll bring up the logs from the alliance/war peace agreement when Im my other comp
(11:35:29) <@WF_SOUL> and i believe i posted that to queen
(11:35:33) <@[DS]pat> that was for that agreement only and he was making sure i knew before he agreed.
(11:35:40) <@WF_SOUL> showing he would handle all alliance issues
(11:35:43) <@WF_SOUL> with obby/ds
(11:36:16) <@WF_SOUL> if im wrong plz correct me im only going by what i was told
(11:36:35) <@[DS]pat> [DS]pat> that was for that agreement only and he was making sure i knew before he agreed.
(11:37:17) <@Obsidia|meeting> Part of the agreement Pat was that Vithu handled all obby/ds alliance issues in the future
(11:37:27) <@[DS]pat> i asked for those logs but never got them btw Obsidia
(11:37:37) <@[DS]pat> not that i knew of then
(11:38:17) <@WF_SOUL> ok pat sorry the way we understood it was he was gonna handle obby/ds alliance issues
(11:38:29) <@WF_SOUL> which is why weve all gone to him regarding any
(11:38:32) <@[DS]pat> yes he could but i always have the final say
(11:38:35) <@WF_SOUL> the past 3 or 4 weeks
(11:39:27) <@[DS]pat> could you please answer WF_SOUL's question Obsidia
(11:39:55) <@WF_SOUL> +
(11:40:04) <@WF_SOUL> what was the question?
(11:40:07) <@[DS]pat> sorry for the confusion, i said he could handle issues but not that he had final say in our clan.
(11:40:10) <@[DS]pat> sigh
(11:40:27) <@WF_SOUL> i see
(11:41:17) <@WF_SOUL> ok for future reference then who do we all go to?
(11:41:35) <@Brucelee1231> (19:35:01) <@Brucelee1231> Who does then for future reference O_o <--- took us 6 minutes to get back to square 1 :P
(11:41:59) <@WF_SOUL> ok while thats being thought of
(11:42:01) <@[DS]pat> Mon:Feb:2011:13:33:28] <@WF_SOUL> if ds kept incog youd keep jord
(11:42:01) <@[DS]pat> [Mon:Feb:2011:13:33:33] <@WF_SOUL> did u still want that
(11:42:19) <@WF_SOUL> yes ty queen did u still want that?
(11:42:20) <@Obsidia|meeting> I said that I had no issue with Incog being removed, as long as Jord was allowed to be a full member of Obbys
(11:42:38) <@[DS]pat> i agreed to that yesterday....
(11:42:46) <@WF_SOUL> ok all agree
(11:42:49) <@WF_SOUL> moving on
(11:42:50) <@Ianzz> better to be finalized in meeting though
(11:42:54) <@Obsidia|meeting> ^
(11:43:09) <@Ianzz> ok pat
(11:43:11) <@Obsidia|meeting> Im not gonna remove someone off the WA blacklist unless WA clan owners have all agreed
(11:43:14) <@Ianzz> so who do we go to
(11:43:39) <@[DS]pat> i would like a penalty set up for ppl who insult each other in the alliance plz.
(11:43:46) <@[DS]pat> for what Ianzz?
(11:43:51) <@WF_SOUL> i guarantee queen in the future all wa ban removals will be dicussed prior to removal
(11:44:01) <@Ianzz> [14:41] <WF_SOUL> ok for future reference then who do we all go
(11:44:28) <@[DS]pat> i answered that if it was in reguards to ds.
(11:44:41) <@Brucelee1231> Just you then?
(11:45:09) <@[DS]pat> any of my co owners willing to speak to you could answer and help with issues. i always have the final say.
(11:45:22) <@[DS]pat> why am i repeating myself?
(11:45:43) <@[DS]pat> if this is another pick on ds and pat meeting i'll just leave now.
(11:45:44) <@WF_SOUL> ok moving on
(11:45:59) <@WF_SOUL> what did i say at the start of the meeting
(11:46:04) <@Obsidia|meeting> No ones picking, we just wanted clarification is all
(11:46:10) <@WF_SOUL> were not gonna do the rage quitting
(11:46:17) <@WF_SOUL> were clarifing everything
(11:46:26) <@WF_SOUL> since lately nothings been clear
(11:46:26) <@[DS]pat> it has never changed so would be nice not to be questioned steady.
(11:46:39) <@WF_SOUL> (11:46:17) <@WF_SOUL> were clarifing everything
(11:46:39) <@WF_SOUL> (11:46:26) <@WF_SOUL> since lately nothings been clear
(11:47:07) <@WF_SOUL> ok next issue
(11:47:16) <@[DS]pat> i leave in an hour btw.
(11:47:36) <@WF_SOUL> so then lets done as quickly as we can
(11:48:10) <@Ianzz> ok so whats next
(11:48:31) <@Obsidia|meeting> so its final, Jord is with Obbys now, Incog stays with DS, right? Just want a final clarification
(11:48:41) <@WF_SOUL> yes queen
(11:48:51) <@Obsidia|meeting> okay thanks
(11:49:05) <@WF_SOUL> ok what else
(11:49:43) <@[DS]pat> i would still like a penalty for insulting other wa clans discussed plz
(11:49:46) <@WF_SOUL> i know theres alot of flaming going on , on both sides , while it all cant be controlled it falls on the leaders to at least try to minimize,
(11:49:56) <@[DS]pat> the minor 'stop doing that' doesn't really help.
(11:50:10) <@WF_SOUL> pat its unrealistic to penalize ppl for that
(11:50:23) <@WF_SOUL> you have to remember we have a lot of kids that play
(11:50:32) <@[DS]pat> within our own clans?
(11:50:36) <@WF_SOUL> if i penalized every clan thats flamed my clan
(11:50:37) <@[DS]pat> to each other? it is?
(11:50:40) <@WF_SOUL> thered be no wa
(11:51:08) <@Ianzz> we would waste more time, penalizing each other
(11:51:11) <@Ianzz> rather than fighting swa lol
(11:51:13) <@[DS]pat> members flaming each other wa leaders.... that is what i mean. that's too hard to do?
(11:51:40) <@[DS]pat> so it's better to have a whole bunch of ppl mad at a whole clan cause one leader can't handle a flaming member?
(11:51:44) <@[DS]pat> ok i'll drop it.
(11:51:53) <@WF_SOUL> no the leaders need to stop flaming each other
(11:51:57) <@WF_SOUL> but it goes both ways
(11:52:05) <@WF_SOUL> and snide remarks
(11:52:11) <@WF_SOUL> falls under that as well
(11:52:31) <@WF_SOUL> i know ppl can flame using snide remarks , to make it look innocent
(11:52:35) <@WF_SOUL> when in fact its not
(11:53:36) <@WF_SOUL> ill tell you what ive seen
(11:53:56) <@WF_SOUL> ive seen personal hate for one another being mixed in with wa and cc issues
(11:54:00) <@WF_SOUL> thats for a bad mix
(11:54:24) <@WF_SOUL> you guys dont have to like one another but at least be civil for the sake of your ccs and this alliance
(11:54:56) <@WF_SOUL> you guys wanna pay attention instead of trying to pm insults now?
(11:55:08) <@WF_SOUL> or are we all just wasting our time here?
(11:55:16) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> im listening :)
(11:55:20) <@WF_SOUL> pull it together
(11:55:26) <@WF_SOUL> and lets get this shit sorted
(11:55:49) <@WF_SOUL> idk how many times i can stress that this alliance is going to shit with all the back and forth bickering
(11:57:02) <@Ianzz> ^^
(11:57:04) <@WF_SOUL> now i know , theres hard feelings i get that , but im gonna ask that the leaders put all those issues aside to try to get this alliance back on track
(11:57:34) <@[DS]pat> your clan wasn't the one attacked by another wa clan tho, easy to put things aside when it's not you.
(11:57:44) <@WF_SOUL> ok pat but thats done now
(11:57:58) <@[DS]pat> is it? nothing was resolved
(11:57:59) <@WF_SOUL> at what point do we keep holding on to the past and just move on
(11:58:03) <@WF_SOUL> according to u
(11:58:09) <@WF_SOUL> you need to let it go
(11:58:14) <@WF_SOUL> everyone else has
(11:58:18) <@WF_SOUL> its done
(11:58:24) <@WF_SOUL> cant take it back its over
(11:58:26) <@[DS]pat> everyone else wasn't the ones being attacked.
(11:58:33) <@[DS]pat> could make it better...
(11:58:35) <@Ianzz> can we work on something, to get obbys and ds back on the same page, and not at each other's throats whenever w/a needs anticrash from them
(11:59:06) <@WF_SOUL> im not gonna go back in time and discuss something thats over with now
(11:59:15) <@[DS]pat> so carry on
(11:59:17) <@WF_SOUL> were here to get it on track
(11:59:23) <@WF_SOUL> why am i repeating myself
(11:59:37) <@WF_SOUL> its like this pat
(11:59:42) <@WF_SOUL> no one is gonna attack ds
(11:59:44) <@WF_SOUL> its over
(11:59:52) <@WF_SOUL> no one is gonna attack obby clans
(12:00:09) <@WF_SOUL> and its these issues and accusations thats fucking this alliance up
(12:00:23) <@WF_SOUL> ppl talk shit yes
(12:00:26) <@WF_SOUL> but its talk
(12:00:52) <@[DS]pat> so forcing mms to side with swa was a smart move? ok so what other reasons are we here for?
(12:01:13) <@Obsidia|meeting> Pre W44 war stuff, is over with as far as Im concerned, as it was supposed to be for all involved so we could move past this
(12:01:18) <@WF_SOUL> WHAT PART DIDNT I MAKE CLEAR
(12:01:23) <@WF_SOUL> ITS DONE
(12:01:26) <@WF_SOUL> THAT IS DONE
(12:01:31) <@WF_SOUL> LETS MOVE ON
(12:01:34) <@WF_SOUL> jesus
(12:01:41) <@WF_SOUL> idc about mms
(12:01:47) <@Ianzz> mms died
(12:01:50) <@[DS]pat> again it isn't resolved, i said carrry on awhile ago.
(12:01:52) <@WF_SOUL> ^
(12:01:52) <@Ianzz> the other night
(12:01:55) <@Ianzz> mms is dead pat
(12:02:01) <@Ianzz> there cc is empty
(12:02:10) <@[DS]pat> mms has come back to life at least 10 times.  don't count your chickens
(12:02:14) <@Ianzz> laila sent them to die on w9
(12:02:14) <@WF_SOUL> thats what they get for going with swa
(12:02:25) <@WF_SOUL> now lets move on
(12:02:30) <@Obsidia|meeting> ^
(12:02:31) <@WF_SOUL> we need a better plan
(12:02:32) <@[DS]pat> yeah they had a choice.
(12:02:38) <@WF_SOUL> when it comes to helping allies
(12:02:58) <@Ianzz> is there a way when anticrash is needed, we can all pull together
(12:03:01) <@Ianzz> instead of one by one
(12:03:03) <@WF_SOUL> we need to make a time limit , as to how long it takes for ccs to hop to help
(12:03:14) <@WF_SOUL> and how long ccs stay
(12:03:18) <@Obsidia|meeting> Obbys send out volunteers when it's asked in the WA channel. Not every time can we pull OW off 44 when we're shortstaffed, etc.
(12:03:21) <@WF_SOUL> weve has serious issues
(12:03:29) <@WF_SOUL> right i understand that huni
(12:03:42) <@Brucelee1231> It's really hurting our clan having to hop the entire cc very regularly
(12:03:43) <@WF_SOUL> i meant within reason of course
(12:04:14) <@WF_SOUL> but all should send volunteers the second the call is made and announce in wa channel
(12:04:20) <@WF_SOUL> that help is sent so we all know
(12:04:51) <@WF_SOUL> for the past 3 weeks when ive called for help , i get things like well is obby going or well is ds going
(12:04:52) <@Obsidia|meeting> I'd like to recommend that when a world needs help, can we please highlight the names in WA channel or something
(12:04:54) <@WF_SOUL> thats not right
(12:05:01) <@WF_SOUL> yes queen
(12:05:13) <@WF_SOUL> if allies need help
(12:05:27) <@WF_SOUL> im not questioning if any other allies are there
(12:05:39) <@WF_SOUL> i just go there and send ppl and will ask for more help
(12:05:50) <@WF_SOUL> but ive seen so many times
(12:05:59) <@WF_SOUL> arguements for 20+mins
(12:06:19) <@WF_SOUL> about whos hopping , hopped are they going are they there were not going unless they do
(12:06:21) <@WF_SOUL> thats crap
(12:06:26) <@WF_SOUL> it shouldnt be that
(12:06:27) <@WF_SOUL> way
(12:06:42) <@Ianzz> thats what i was saying earlier
(12:06:49) <@Ianzz> most of the time obbys and ds get in a tie up
(12:06:51) <@WF_SOUL> i never expect full cc hops
(12:06:51) <@Ianzz> about who to hop first
(12:06:59) <@WF_SOUL> unless we plan a full retal
(12:07:20) <@WF_SOUL> but i do expect ppl to at least send all they can and acknowledge that a call for help has been made
(12:07:32) <@WF_SOUL> many times ive seen ppl ask
(12:07:38) <@WF_SOUL> and no one says nothing
(12:07:39) <@WF_SOUL> at all
(12:08:21) <@Obsidia|meeting> I've gotten home from work and scrolled through wa channel and have seen requests for help and no responses as well
(12:08:32) <@Obsidia|meeting> it's why I'd like for everyone to please highlight ppl
(12:08:32) <@WF_SOUL> right
(12:08:45) <@WF_SOUL> thats what i mean we defo need to start hling ppl
(12:08:52) <@[ds0]hawk_> what about when ppl are sent and swa sends more then its we hopping back theres no point we cant win
(12:09:11) <@WF_SOUL> i remember before when a call was made instantly ppl were asking where what world time etc
(12:09:22) <@WF_SOUL> i havent seen that at all and its sad
(12:09:27) <@Obsidia|meeting> we used to spam hl everyone though
(12:09:31) <@WF_SOUL> more and more ive seen to each his own
(12:09:32) <@[DS]pat> it gets old fast when you are accused of never helping since sr1 war.
(12:09:43) <@WF_SOUL> again the past
(12:09:48) <@WF_SOUL> were on the now and future
(12:09:55) <@WF_SOUL> ty lets continue
(12:10:22) <@WF_SOUL> ok so we agree to start hling in wa channel correct
(12:10:46) <@WF_SOUL> and at least let the needing clan that help is sent of being sent within reason correct?
(12:10:52) <@Brucelee1231> I think we need more unified tactics and hopping too
(12:11:03) <@WF_SOUL> yes i do to very good point
(12:11:06) <@Obsidia|meeting> yes, if that means someone has to take an extra few seconds to spam Soul, Obsidia, Pat, etc. by all means we  need to all agree to do it
(12:11:36) <@WF_SOUL> ok i think that when help is needed we all meet up and go together and leave together
(12:11:43) <@Ianzz> yes ^^
(12:11:55) <@Ianzz> the stronger force we show at once, makes swa back out for at least temp
(12:12:10) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> if the members see the leaders getting along, it will go along way in makeing them treat each other nice too
(12:13:08) <@WF_SOUL> yes beth thats a given , the leaders lead by example and the members follow suit
(12:13:14) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> yesh
(12:13:24) <@WF_SOUL> so if they see the leaders talking shit on one another guesswhat
(12:13:29) <@WF_SOUL> theyre gonna do it to
(12:13:38) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> that's it
(12:13:39) <@Ianzz> it will help keep all leaders in check as well
(12:13:41) <@WF_SOUL> its a no brainer
(12:13:44) <@[DS]pat> is no flaming part of that?
(12:14:02) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> of course
(12:14:03) <@Ianzz> no flaming each other of course, we'll all be busy fighting either way
(12:14:05) <@WF_SOUL> all of it none of it should be happening
(12:14:10) <@Ianzz> or dealing with swa flame
(12:14:12) <@Ianzz> lmao
(12:14:59) <@[DS]pat> i'd suggest stopping all flaming, to swa or each other. makes them look childish to continue without responses and makes them try harder to make us mad so we can report them for it.
(12:15:07) <@WF_SOUL> i know for my cc
(12:15:10) <@WF_SOUL> when they hit us
(12:15:14) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we don't flame
(12:15:17) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> except for divine ho
(12:15:18) <@WF_SOUL> i dont allow my members to flame them at all
(12:15:28) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and her band of merry hoes
(12:15:35) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i jsut can't help my self
(12:15:37) <@Obsidia|meeting> lol Lady
(12:15:45) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i try to be polite
(12:15:48) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> but they make it hard
(12:16:15) <@Ianzz> ok
(12:16:27) <@Ianzz> so no flaming, volunteers from each cc come together for each anticrash call and hop together
(12:16:54) <@WF_SOUL> ok so for antiing we all need to mass the ppl were sending and hop together and leave together is that agreed?
(12:17:21) <@Obsidia|meeting> we should meet at green portal, just outside of sw
(12:17:28) <@WF_SOUL> yes
(12:17:31) <@Ianzz> u mean yellow
(12:17:37) <@WF_SOUL> yea yellow lol
(12:17:38) <@Ianzz> yellow is outside lol
(12:17:41) <@Obsidia|meeting> WHATEVER =p
(12:17:43) <@WF_SOUL> lmao
(12:17:45) <@[ds0]hawk_> lol
(12:17:45) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk>  i think we should do a suprise att
(12:17:45) <@Ianzz> aha
(12:17:54) <@Ianzz> beth we'll be talking about retal in a bit
(12:17:58) * @Brucelee1231 pours skittles down Obsidia's back
(12:17:58) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> :o ok
(12:18:03) <@WF_SOUL> ok so pat do u agree to that aswell
(12:18:29) <@[DS]pat> assuming there are enough volunteers from each clan sure.
(12:18:51) <@WF_SOUL> well any help is better then none
(12:18:57) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> agreed
(12:19:02) <@WF_SOUL> at least it shows support to our allies
(12:19:03) <@Ianzz> do we have them all join the cc that needs help
(12:19:05) <@Obsidia|meeting> no comment bruce =p
(12:19:07) <@Ianzz> or use a separate one together
(12:19:23) <@WF_SOUL> lets decide that one , whats best for u guys
(12:19:31) <@Obsidia|meeting> I normally have my Obby volunteers join the cc that needs help and most the time they remember to say they're from us
(12:19:41) <@Ianzz> same for reapers
(12:19:42) <@WF_SOUL> to join the cc that needs help or join another cc of said choice at the time
(12:19:43) <@Obsidia|meeting> but i usually ask in wa channel first, if its ok
(12:20:03) <@Ianzz> i think joining the cc that needs help is best because it gives the normal members being crashed a good sense of hope and etc
(12:20:13) <@Obsidia|meeting> Yeah I agree
(12:20:13) <@WF_SOUL> right thats true to
(12:20:16) <@Ianzz> when we all come in and say where we're from
(12:20:22) <@Ianzz> stops the zeal chasers from leaving so fast
(12:20:27) <@WF_SOUL> ok so we announce our selves in the needing cc
(12:20:27) <@Obsidia|meeting> mhm
(12:20:28) <@[DS]pat> depends if it is volunteers or full cc.
(12:20:35) <@[ds0]hawk_> i agree then theres no question in the cc's if help is there
(12:20:35) <@Obsidia|meeting> ofc
(12:20:37) <@WF_SOUL> yea
(12:20:44) <@WF_SOUL> ok also
(12:20:46) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> yes i love that part
(12:20:52) <@WF_SOUL> we need to plan a full retal
(12:21:04) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i always like to hear that when we have people helping us
(12:21:08) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and so do our members
(12:21:15) <@Ianzz> shud we get maria in here now
(12:21:17) <@WF_SOUL> its apparent that w2ls seems to think that were intruding on their turf in w9
(12:21:18) <@Obsidia|meeting> Well, we need to truly get the tactics fixed, again. Because it's chaos sometimes
(12:21:37) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> then why is their name "w2" lost souls
(12:21:42) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i think they are lost again
(12:21:47) <@Ianzz> wait i have another idea
(12:21:51) <@WF_SOUL> but we really need to set a day that we all hop our full ccs in show of wa force
(12:21:52) <@Ianzz> what if during anticrash/war times
(12:21:56) <@Ianzz> we have elected war callers
(12:22:06) <@Ianzz> so its clearer for tactics
(12:22:10) <@WF_SOUL> yes ian ur great at that
(12:22:10) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> kk
(12:22:12) <@WF_SOUL> so is nomad
(12:22:19) <@WF_SOUL> and whoelse
(12:22:29) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> "nigga beast mode"
(12:22:33) <@Ianzz> lmao :P
(12:22:34) <@WF_SOUL> bruceypoo is to
(12:22:45) <@Obsidia|meeting> I really think that the cc we're helping, should have their ranks be the one giving out calls/orders
(12:23:06) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we have people calling that arent ranked though
(12:23:19) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> even though they aren't soem are really good callers
(12:23:26) <@WF_SOUL> yea i do to but i notice that the wa clans tend to unconsiously take over lol
(12:23:33) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> meh
(12:23:34) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> it's fine
(12:23:45) <@Ianzz> its just when like
(12:23:47) <@Ianzz> ur dealing with swa
(12:23:51) <@Ianzz> everything needs to be perfect
(12:23:53) <@Ianzz> in the heat of battle
(12:23:55) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ya, it's fine with us
(12:23:57) <@WF_SOUL> yea
(12:24:06) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i've nver had anyone in our cc complain about it
(12:24:13) <@Brucelee1231> I was thinking the same tbh
(12:24:14) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> so dw about that part
(12:24:18) <@Brucelee1231> Like "anti crash leaders"
(12:24:25) <@Ianzz> yea bruce
(12:24:33) <@WF_SOUL> good idea
(12:24:36) <@[DS]pat> but it needs to be one person
(12:24:43) <@Ianzz> it can't be just one person
(12:24:46) <@Ianzz> incase that person isnt on
(12:24:47) <@Ianzz> lol
(12:24:49) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> but what if that one person isn't on
(12:24:50) <@Brucelee1231> I dunno that woulda kinda suck if it was me and they crash at like 5am for me
(12:25:02) <@WF_SOUL> we can have a few tho
(12:25:07) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we need several
(12:25:09) <@WF_SOUL> not just one
(12:25:11) <@Brucelee1231> Like 1/2 per WA clan
(12:25:20) <@[DS]pat> noo i mean one person at a time
(12:25:22) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> plus it would be good morale booster for a person to be named that
(12:25:25) <@WF_SOUL> oh
(12:25:27) <@Ianzz> oh yea pat ofc
(12:25:34) <@Ianzz> more than one at a time will be chaos lol
(12:25:38) <@Brucelee1231> 1 at a time definately but we need more due to activity can't have 1 person on 24/7
(12:25:51) <@[DS]pat> any time i've been there it's usually mega callers saying what to do
(12:25:52) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> have several
(12:26:03) <@WF_SOUL> yea pat
(12:26:07) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and the one that is available at the time pull everyone together   is that what u mean?
(12:26:12) <@Brucelee1231> Say every clan nominate 2 people and submite their hours
(12:26:23) <@Brucelee1231> And WA vote on which ones to have for their designited hours
(12:26:26) <@WF_SOUL> ok good idea lets do that
(12:26:33) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> =D
(12:26:39) <@Ianzz> so for reapers, that would be me and michele i guess?
(12:26:48) <@[DS]pat> i can't promise other ppl are going ot be on certain hours?
(12:26:53) <@WF_SOUL> yes a uk time and eastern time
(12:26:54) <@Ianzz> she plays the early morning, i play the afternoon and late night
(12:27:08) <@Brucelee1231> Pat, set up like backups then if you want
(12:27:19) <@Ianzz> also at the time of our anticash
(12:27:23) <@Ianzz> we only need 1 war caller
(12:27:29) <@WF_SOUL> yea do that pat pick who u feel is best with back ups
(12:27:30) <@Ianzz> so if u dont have yours on
(12:27:36) <@[DS]pat> well there isn't any question who would be for ds since the two of them live there
(12:27:37) <@Ianzz> its not the biggest issue
(12:27:52) <@WF_SOUL> yea lol pat
(12:28:05) <@Obsidia|meeting> tbh, i think that's a bit much. I mean all our generals, or high ranking staff should be capable of War calling. Just that person should double check with the cc first before doing so
(12:28:05) <@Ianzz> so monkey and nomad for ds?
(12:28:06) <@Brucelee1231> It doesn't matter who each clan puts up just as longer as the upper leadership think they are capable
(12:28:07) <@WF_SOUL> so vithu and nomad
(12:28:14) <@Obsidia|meeting> and make sure it's just 1 doing the igc, instead of several
(12:28:32) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ya, we haven't had any problems so far with too many people calling
(12:28:34) <@WF_SOUL> right
(12:28:44) <@Ianzz> when one takes over, the rest go quiet usually
(12:28:48) <@Brucelee1231> If it comes to heads
(12:28:51) <@Brucelee1231> Flip a coin
(12:28:53) <@Ianzz> but when we go to anticrash, we would decide
(12:28:54) <@Ianzz> ahead of time
(12:28:57) <@Ianzz> we take turns
(12:29:05) <@WF_SOUL> yea we can decide that during massing
(12:29:08) <@[DS]pat> i've seen so many ppl not at the obby when we don't have it, fighting in the middle where it does nothing... what about that?
(12:29:29) <@Ianzz> thats that war caller's job to get people moving
(12:29:30) <@WF_SOUL> we can calll in cc like ok all wa ppl head to obby etc
(12:29:50) <@Ianzz> in game issues can be dealt with when its happening
(12:29:51) <@WF_SOUL> will the leads of the needing cc call their team whereever else is needed
(12:29:55) <@Ianzz> right now this is just organization
(12:31:20) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we are losing cc members right and left casue we get a spanking all the time ( and not the good kind)......eventually if this keeps up swa will own it
(12:31:34) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and then u guys are next on the hit list
(12:31:49) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we just encourage them by letting them win so easily
(12:31:57) <@[DS]pat> i don't understand why it has to be war all the time tbh. ds survived by not doing that quite well.
(12:32:01) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> hawk and i can't be there every single minute we log in
(12:32:18) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we need chaotics to we can be better against them
(12:32:21) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and we also need money
(12:32:29) <@Ianzz> ok thats the next thing
(12:32:29) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and we both work
(12:32:33) <@Ianzz> lets start planning this retal
(12:32:37) <@Ianzz> so we can get swa to back off for a bit
(12:32:55) <@Ianzz> everytime we've come together to hit them
(12:33:00) <@Ianzz> they've wussed out for at least a few days
(12:33:15) <@WF_SOUL> after this i have a suggestion beth
(12:33:17) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ya we can't do this all the time, we have lost leaders befcasue of the fact we get beat way too much
(12:33:30) <@WF_SOUL> listen beth
(12:33:45) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> k
(12:33:46) <@WF_SOUL> i know ds0 has heart and have endured alot in the past 4 months
(12:34:01) <@WF_SOUL> you guys are fighters no doubt about that
(12:34:19) <@WF_SOUL> and i know you would do anything for ur cc
(12:34:49) <@WF_SOUL> but what about merging with eskimoes
(12:35:37) <@Ianzz> eskimos want w145 though?
(12:35:48) <@[DS]pat> can't say i think it is right of wa to ask that of other clans.
(12:35:54) <@Brucelee1231> I think we should have w9 stable before we think about 145
(12:36:06) <@Ianzz> yea defo bruce
(12:36:12) <@WF_SOUL> it was a suggestion pat
(12:36:17) <@Brucelee1231> If nothing else as a staging ground
(12:36:19) <@WF_SOUL> not a demand
(12:36:32) <@Ianzz> just an option the hawks have
(12:36:45) <@[ds0]hawk_> we have been ds0 in w2 and then w9 then anti swa was formed turned into eskimos i dont think im going to close ds0
(12:36:56) <@[ds0]hawk_> to form one clan
(12:37:26) <@Ianzz> wait yui, do u mean merge as in merge both cc's or have both cc's present on w9, like how ds/obbys are
(12:37:31) <@WF_SOUL> ok let me ask u would sharing w9 be ok with u
(12:37:32) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> all we need is alot of help here for a week or two and eventually swa will leave
(12:37:38) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> they don't want w9 that bad
(12:37:46) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we are just making it easy for them
(12:37:47) <@[ds0]hawk_> we have been sharing
(12:37:49) <@WF_SOUL> assuming eskimoes wanted to stay on w9
(12:37:54) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> but a few here and there isn't gona do much
(12:37:58) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> but grow their cc
(12:38:33) <@Ianzz> thats why our new anticrash and retal will help with that
(12:38:40) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ya we have been sharing with eskimos
(12:38:46) <@WF_SOUL> ok huni
(12:38:51) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ya we need alot here all the time
(12:38:58) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> for at leaSt a week or two
(12:39:09) <@[ds0]hawk_> or at least til they relax
(12:39:09) <@Ianzz> wait
(12:39:15) <@Ianzz> lets talk retal
(12:39:21) <@Ianzz> mass anti on w9
(12:39:28) <@Ianzz> leading to pushing them to w145
(12:39:36) <@Ianzz> thats what u need beth
(12:39:40) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> yup
(12:39:43) <@[ds0]hawk_> yes put them back on 145
(12:39:45) <@WF_SOUL> if we do it has to be on w9 to stablize it
(12:39:53) <@Ianzz> yes
(12:39:55) <@Ianzz> it starts on w9
(12:40:01) <@Ianzz> because u know swa will back off after a loss or 2
(12:40:04) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i know i have spoken to a few of swa and they are getting bored and tired of this too
(12:40:18) <@Ianzz> lets pick a day, that we can pull all clans to w9
(12:40:31) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> but laila the she beast , orders them around and they do what she/he says for some reason
(12:40:44) <@Ianzz> yea but beth, its not about beating laila
(12:40:46) <@WF_SOUL> ok lets set a date and time thats best for all
(12:40:48) <@Ianzz> all u gotta do is beat her members
(12:40:48) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and several of their mages are rangig now
(12:40:51) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> but it is
(12:40:53) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> this is all about her
(12:41:03) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> if it wsn't for her w2ls woudn't be here
(12:41:05) <@Ianzz> yea, but im saying in order to beat her
(12:41:12) <@Ianzz> she's to stubborn to give up
(12:41:14) <@WF_SOUL> its lailas hate for the hawks that keep her going back to w9
(12:41:17) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> as are we
(12:41:20) <@Ianzz> good
(12:41:22) <@Obsidia|meeting> We need to bring up that with a big hit, and we're there for a few hrs, clans are gonna need to regroup. But usually as soon as one does, the rest follow suit. We need to take care of that.
(12:41:23) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> yup true soul
(12:41:30) <@[ds0]hawk_> because as small as we are we are still here
(12:41:37) <@Ianzz> ok lets pick a time and date
(12:41:40) <@Ianzz> and agree that all clans
(12:41:43) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ya, i get a pm "our members need to refuel"
(12:41:43) <@Ianzz> stay for x amount of time
(12:41:53) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we need to go back to what ever world they came from
(12:41:56) <@WF_SOUL> yes queen we need to set times as to how long we stay , go regroup and come back
(12:42:01) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i say "w9 has fuel here"
(12:42:05) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> why do u need to laeve
(12:42:06) <@WF_SOUL> we need to decide and agree to that in here
(12:42:07) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> or i hear
(12:42:13) <@Ianzz> lets do it now
(12:42:14) <@Obsidia|meeting> remass our cc's to come back
(12:42:17) <@Ianzz> when will all leaders be on
(12:42:30) <@Ianzz> we need a window of several hours
(12:42:34) <@Ianzz> so we can have constant hits on w9
(12:42:36) <@Obsidia|meeting> Wait lets get the regroup issue done real quick
(12:42:41) <@WF_SOUL> yes
(12:42:55) <@WF_SOUL> how long of regroup would we all need
(12:42:59) <@Obsidia|meeting> I think that if 1 clan goes home to regroup for an hr, and comes back, then the next clan goes home for an hr
(12:42:59) <@Obsidia|meeting> etc
(12:43:13) <@WF_SOUL> so a rotation
(12:43:14) <@Obsidia|meeting> Sometimes it depends on the time of day
(12:43:15) <@Brucelee1231> I think just 3 hours
(12:43:17) <@[DS]pat> we don't recruit on your world lady, our members like world 44 and leave if we aren't there for long.
(12:43:21) <@Brucelee1231> Of the entire of WA sending their 125+
(12:43:42) <@Brucelee1231> Like 6-0 games will make them leave rather than groups
(12:43:46) <@Obsidia|meeting> Yes Soul,  a rotation of the clans going home to regroup, not all at once
(12:43:55) <@WF_SOUL> or like bruce said
(12:43:57) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i never said u did
(12:43:58) <@WF_SOUL> aswell
(12:44:00) <@[DS]pat> that isn't enough force Brucelee1231, that has been tried many times.
(12:44:11) <@WF_SOUL> rotate and while the their regrouping
(12:44:12) <@Ianzz> on a small world like 9
(12:44:15) <@Ianzz> bruce's plan could work
(12:44:16) <@Brucelee1231> I said 125 not 120
(12:44:19) <@WF_SOUL> get the highlevels back on w9
(12:44:21) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i never said ya'll did recruit on our world, what do u mean?
(12:44:28) <@WF_SOUL> during the cc regroups
(12:44:34) <@[DS]pat> that's why we need to regroup
(12:44:35) <@WF_SOUL> to keep the pressure on
(12:44:36) <@Obsidia|meeting> She means we have to go home to regroup our own cc's
(12:44:37) <@Brucelee1231> Like mages + chaotics only
(12:44:45) <@WF_SOUL> right
(12:44:54) <@[DS]pat> and if you are just going to go back to having a few ppl go without a big force you are going in circles.
(12:45:12) <@WF_SOUL> it only keep show of our ppl there
(12:45:14) <@Brucelee1231> Gotta go with Pat on that one >.<
(12:45:23) <@WF_SOUL> while the big ccs regroup pat
(12:45:35) <@WF_SOUL> ok so lets say
(12:45:43) <@WF_SOUL> we all take full ccs to w9
(12:45:48) <@Brucelee1231> If we send like half of WA whilst the other half is regrouping... SWA will just send all of W140, SWA and Zm's 120+
(12:45:51) <@WF_SOUL> play three games with all ccs
(12:46:22) <@WF_SOUL> wait
(12:46:36) <@WF_SOUL> how long after we all hop full ccs
(12:46:42) <@WF_SOUL> do we start the rotation
(12:46:56) <@Ianzz> as soon as one of the ccs are in danger of approaching no scrollbar status
(12:47:01) <@Ianzz> send them back
(12:47:20) <@[DS]pat> i don't think you can plan a rotation until you know how easy the games are. sending one home for awhile could hurt the others too badly.
(12:47:27) <@WF_SOUL> ok so when they go back whats the regroup time
(12:47:34) <@WF_SOUL> for that cc to head back to w9
(12:47:37) <@Ianzz> 2 sw games? should be enough
(12:47:41) <@Ianzz> if there all adverting
(12:47:46) <@Obsidia|meeting> I'd say an hr if its during the day at most
(12:47:52) <@Ianzz> or that yea
(12:47:52) <@WF_SOUL> ok
(12:47:54) <@Obsidia|meeting> but deadtime is gonna be harsh
(12:47:57) <@WF_SOUL> right
(12:48:03) <@Ianzz> this retal will be our main time
(12:48:09) <@Ianzz> make sure of that at least
(12:48:28) <@[DS]pat> we can't have full force there 24/7
(12:48:39) <@Ianzz> no pat, this is just the retal
(12:48:53) <@Ianzz> its gunna go for at least a few hours
(12:48:58) <@[DS]pat> k
(12:49:09) <@Ianzz> not a permanent style of anti crash lol
(12:49:14) <@Ianzz> way too much stress on cc's
(12:49:18) <@Obsidia|meeting> Well, not to cut this short, but I need to start getting ready for work so Im gonna be afk for a little bit
(12:49:47) <@Ianzz> tell ur boss to give u the day off or i'll go niga beast mode on him
(12:49:51) <@[DS]pat> and i need to go pick up the kid, -36 C with wind chill, not going to let him be outside
(12:50:08) <@Ianzz> ok lets quickly get a time and day
(12:50:13) <@Ianzz> at least
(12:50:29) <@[DS]pat> when is ds0 strongest?
(12:50:30) <@WF_SOUL> decide a time plz before u all leave
(12:50:35) <@[DS]pat> when is swa strongest?
(12:50:47) <@[DS]pat> it should be planned not just a time and date.
(12:50:55) * Vithu|afk is now known as Vithu
(12:50:55) <@Ianzz> during the week
(12:50:58) <@Ianzz> afternoons
(12:51:05) <@Ianzz> late afternoon
(12:51:07) <@Obsidia|meeting> I agree with Pat, it should be more than just day and time
(12:51:13) <@[ds0]hawk_> we are the strngest in the afternoons
(12:51:19) <@Ianzz> anywhere from 4-5pm eastern and after
(12:51:22) <@Ianzz> on a weekday
(12:51:24) <@Obsidia|meeting> remember double xp soon too
(12:51:25) <@Ianzz> is when swa gets weak
(12:51:37) * Vithu is now known as [DS]bm0nkey
(12:51:39) <@[DS]bm0nkey> Laila is offline from 6pm-1am eastern
(12:51:47) <@[DS]bm0nkey> When she is offline swa cannot call allies
(12:51:47) <@[DS]pat> wb vithu
(12:51:55) <@[DS]bm0nkey> Ty
(12:51:55) <@Obsidia|meeting> I'd say we aim for after double xp
(12:51:57) <@Ianzz> not true monkey lol
(12:52:06) <@Ianzz> w2ls has been able to hop all of swa a few times
(12:52:09) <@Ianzz> while laila is asleep
(12:52:10) <@[DS]bm0nkey> I got that from inside swa channel lol
(12:52:17) <@Brucelee1231> I dunno everyone'll be packing overloads if we go before
(12:52:42) <@Ianzz> we should hit them before
(12:52:46) <@Ianzz> they wont want to spend money on war
(12:52:50) <@Ianzz> that they saved for skilling
(12:52:57) <@Ianzz> they might back off faster
(12:53:26) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk>  guess what?
(12:53:43) * [DS]bm0nkey is now known as Vithu|afk
(12:53:44) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i just got a pm from kingsantiago "hey.....how come w/a doesn't come to help?"
(12:53:44) <@WF_SOUL> right
(12:54:00) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> i said "why do u want them to?
(12:54:08) <@Brucelee1231> Ask him why he leaves after 1 loss =p?
(12:54:17) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> and he said "sure :o... Just think is weirld they haven't lol"
(12:54:25) <@[DS]pat> back in 10-15 mins
(12:54:27) <@Ianzz> ask him how he gets 2 hit while wearing full virtus
(12:54:32) <@Vithu|afk> His fun comes from compeitive games.
(12:55:10) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> or cc is leaving one after anoher
(12:55:18) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we are losing our cc fast
(12:55:42) <@[ds0]hawk_> they are saying this isnt even funny getting owned this bad
(12:55:56) <@WF_SOUL> king gets off on warring wa
(12:56:05) <@Ianzz> thats the only reason why he's against us
(12:56:07) <@WF_SOUL> hes said many times his only challenge is wa
(12:56:27) <@WF_SOUL> he used to tell me that all the time
(12:56:36) <@[ds0]hawk_> thats where he gets his mage xp
(12:56:37) <@WF_SOUL> call in ur wa so i can war and have fun
(12:57:11) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> king is claiming he's had the world for the past 2 weeks
(12:57:41) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> "and w/a loses and they can't get us out"
(12:58:07) <@Ianzz> ok we dont care to hear all that flame lol
(12:58:12) <@Ianzz> they'll get whats coming to them
(12:58:18) <@Ianzz> soon
(12:58:41) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> well, now would be a nice time to start :)
(12:58:46) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> im tired of king and his bs
(12:59:26) <@Ianzz> are pat and obsidia afk for long?
(13:00:02) <@[ds0]hawk_> @[DS]pat> back in 10-15 mins
(13:00:27) <@Ianzz> [DS]pat and Obsidia|meeting as soon as ur back lets pick the day for retal
(13:00:36) <@Ianzz> we know the time has to be around 5pm eastern to start
(13:00:37) <@WF_SOUL> queens getting ready for work soon boo
(13:00:38) <@Brucelee1231> Obsidia should be back soon ish
(13:00:44) <@WF_SOUL> oh ok brucey
(13:00:44) <@Ianzz> she said she would be back
(13:00:45) * Vithu|afk is now known as [DS]bm0nkey
(13:00:46) <@Ianzz> left that for her
(13:01:08) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ok, so what is the plan for w9
(13:03:06) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> w2ls cc is really big atm
(13:04:16) <@WF_SOUL> ok beth were gonna wait for queen and pat i believe to close the meeting off then we can help
(13:08:12) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> ok, cause they think they own this world and are saying that w/a is gona let us die -.-
(13:08:50) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we have 3 people from our cc here
(13:08:56) <@[ds0]Lady_Hawk> we been getting own too badly
(13:10:00) <@WF_SOUL> ignore all of that beth
(13:10:13) <@WF_SOUL> thats all they can do is try to get u to react