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- [22:30] < MooseElkingtons> what exploits are you talking about
- [22:33] < MooseElkingtons> inb4IknewAboutThemTheEntireTime
- [22:33] <@StackOverflow> I doubt it
- [22:33] < MooseElkingtons> well we won't know until you tell me what you're talking about, will we
- [22:33] <@StackOverflow> I'd rather not have you take credit for them on the aos forums :)
- [22:34] < EldredChandler> :o
- [22:34] < MooseElkingtons> yes, because this channel isn't logged by EldredChandler
- [22:34] < EldredChandler> That's illegal
- [22:34] < EldredChandler> I'd never
- [22:35] < MooseElkingtons> !extracrunchypeanutbutter
- [22:35] <@^_DeuceBot_^> http://pastebin.com/u/eldredchandler
- [22:35] < DerpyBot> "EldredChandler's Pastebin - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
- [22:35] < EldredChandler> That proves nothing
- [22:36] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you never see me take credit for someone elses exploit
- [22:36] < EldredChandler> Maybe I got thos logs from elsewehre
- [22:36] <@StackOverflow> right
- [22:36] <@StackOverflow> just like you didn't constantly attention whore on the aos forums
- [22:37] < MooseElkingtons> I wasn't the only one who did that.
- [22:37] < MooseElkingtons> and there's nothing wrong with that
- [22:37] <@StackOverflow> "but but others are doing it!"
- [22:38] < MooseElkingtons> I'm not denying I did.
- [22:38] <@StackOverflow> and yes. when you get stuff patched by posting it on the forums, which kind of implies to others that you were the one who discovered
- it
- [22:39] <@StackOverflow> and constantly talk/brag about "your" exploits
- [22:39] < MooseElkingtons> I was the one who discovered the exploits I made public
- [22:39] <@StackOverflow> I'd say that's taking credit that isn't yours
- [22:39] < MooseElkingtons> ask amontons himself.
- [22:39] <@StackOverflow> uh huh
- [22:39] < MooseElkingtons> or perhaps you do know that, and you're just being an ass as usual.
- [22:40] <@StackOverflow> no. trust me, I'm not the only one who thinks this
- [22:40] <@StackOverflow> attention whoring is never a good thing
- [22:40] < koradeath> ReubenMcHawk you bitch
- [22:40] < koradeath> where are you
- [22:42] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, so? That has nothing to do with you accusing me of being a leech.
- [22:42] <@StackOverflow> just like the other night, you were talking about "your" aimbot. assuming that is the one you had passed onto me,. I'm 99.99% sure you
- didn't write that, at all. along with any of that code, the loader, etc.
- [22:42] < MooseElkingtons> it wasn't, and I explained that.
- [22:43] < MooseElkingtons> You always take stuff out of context, and it's ridiculous.
- [22:43] <@StackOverflow> [21:31] <MooseElkingtons> wow aem my aimbot still works
- [22:43] < MooseElkingtons> yes
- [22:43] <@StackOverflow> [21:35] <@StackOverflow> you mean unreal's?
- [22:43] <@StackOverflow> [21:35] <MooseElkingtons> unreal made an aimboot?
- [22:43] < MooseElkingtons> and it wasn't the same
- [22:43] < MooseElkingtons> I had no clue unreal made that one
- [22:43] < MooseElkingtons> I thought rak did.
- [22:43] < MooseElkingtons> and the one I was using wasn't rak's.
- [22:43] < aem> wtf
- [22:43] < aem> thats an old quote
- [22:43] <@StackOverflow> like 2 days
- [22:44] < aem> i dont remember what i ate 2 days ago
- [22:44] < aem> so its old
- [22:45] < MooseElkingtons> also StackOverflow that's still out of context
- [22:45] <@StackOverflow> not really
- [22:45] < MooseElkingtons> you forgot the part where I explained everything.
- [22:45] < MooseElkingtons> crap, I don't have those logs anymore
- [22:46] <@StackOverflow> I do
- [22:46] <@StackOverflow> you explained nothing
- [22:46] < MooseElkingtons> okay, let me dig up geist's logs.
- [22:46] <+ReubenMcHawk> koradeath: hi
- [22:46] <+ReubenMcHawk> omg
- [22:46] < MooseElkingtons> what day was it, StackOverflow?
- [22:46] < koradeath> ReubenMcHawk:
- [22:46] < koradeath> exor
- [22:46] < koradeath> alive
- [22:46] -!- Kynjer- [[email protected]] has quit [Signed off]
- [22:46] < koradeath> #komrade
- [22:47] < koradeath> confirmed for legit
- [22:47] <+ReubenMcHawk> OMG
- [22:47] <@StackOverflow> [21:36] <MooseElkingtons> I thought rak made that
- [22:47] <@StackOverflow> [21:36] <MooseElkingtons> and I lost that when I switched to linux :(
- [22:47] <@StackOverflow> that's all you said
- [22:47] <@StackOverflow> no explanation
- [22:47] < MooseElkingtons> oh
- [22:47] <+ReubenMcHawk> also MooseElkingtons i forget who but someone said you posted something that they showed you
- [22:47] <@StackOverflow> point is, you would constantly brag about exploits etc on the forums that were either not your own or were discovered with the help of
- others (directly or indirectly)
- [22:48] < MooseElkingtons> well usually when someone says "lost something"
- [22:48] < MooseElkingtons> that means they no longer have
- [22:48] < MooseElkingtons> it
- [22:48] < MooseElkingtons> so how exactly would I have it if I had lost it?
- [22:48] <+ReubenMcHawk> and yeah the whole bragging and posting it on aos forums was lame imo
- [22:48] < MooseElkingtons> the whole point was to piss off jagex.
- [22:48] < EldredChandler> Seems silly
- [22:48] <+ReubenMcHawk> they were already pissed
- [22:48] <+ReubenMcHawk> and it was useless
- [22:49] <+ReubenMcHawk> nobody could do shit with them
- [22:49] <+ReubenMcHawk> if you posted the hacks themselves, then yeah
- [22:49] <+ReubenMcHawk> but otherwise it seemed like waving your dick around
- [22:49] < MooseElkingtons> waving dicks around is fun.
- [22:49] <+ReubenMcHawk> but nobody else wants to see it
- [22:50] < MooseElkingtons> Jagex was interested.
- [22:50] <+ReubenMcHawk> well yeah, you had already given them info on patching it at that point
- [22:50] <@StackOverflow> pissing them off != posting the exploits in lengthy posts to give the appearence that you (implicitly or explicitly) were the one
- responsible for them
- [22:50] <+ReubenMcHawk> ^
- [22:50] < EldredChandler> If the point was to piss them off, I'm sure you made them so mad by reporting the exploits to them
- [22:50] < MooseElkingtons> because I was bored with it, ReubenMcHawk.
- [22:50] < MooseElkingtons> so I gave them the info of the exploits I solely found.
- [22:51] <+ReubenMcHawk> yes and there's nothing wrong with that
- [22:51] <+ReubenMcHawk> but the dick-waving was just for attention
- [22:51] <@StackOverflow> even more so, you claim that you were paid. which honestly I don't entirely believe myself. but if you did, it's a bit screwed up for
- you to get paid when you did the least/harldy any amount of actual work
- [22:51] < MooseElkingtons> we already established this, ReubenMcHawk
- [22:51] <+ReubenMcHawk> alright well as long as we're clear you did it for attention
- [22:51] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, I gave them my work.
- [22:52] -!- SpaceVixen [[email protected]] has joined #buildandshoot
- [22:52] <+ReubenMcHawk> because they were threatening you
- [22:52] <+ReubenMcHawk> go away
- [22:52] <@StackOverflow> so for future reference, I wouldn't go around saying "oh yeah blah blah when jagex paid me" etc. because not only is it reminiscent of
- when you'd attention whore on the forums, but it's an insult to those who actually discovered the exploits
- [22:52] < SpaceVixen> Hiya
- [22:52] <@StackOverflow> hi
- [22:53] < EldredChandler> Hi
- [22:53] < SpaceVixen> Am I interrupting something?
- [22:54] < EldredChandler> Nah
- [22:54] < MooseElkingtons> so in other words you're mad that I got paid?
- [22:54] < SpaceVixen> Alrighty then
- [22:54] <@StackOverflow> no. if that's what you got from that, reread
- [22:54] <@StackOverflow> it's sad, yes. but me personally, no, I'm not mad
- [22:54] < MooseElkingtons> "it's a bit screwed up for you to get paid when you did the least/harldy any amount of actual work"
- [22:55] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: you actually got paid?
- [22:55] < MooseElkingtons> btw, proof: http://puu.sh/4YOcw.jpg
- [22:55] < MooseElkingtons> yeah ReubenMcHawk. I bot dothack G.U. games
- [22:55] <@StackOverflow> I have games too
- [22:56] < SpaceVixen> Paid for what
- [22:56] <@StackOverflow> leeching, more or less
- [22:56] < SpaceVixen> Sounds... Fun?
- [22:56] < MooseElkingtons> he's just being an ass because he didn't get paid for stuff he didn't do, SpaceVixen.
- [22:56] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: i thought you did it because they were trying to hunt you down
- [22:56] <@StackOverflow> really moose?
- [22:57] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, they paid me afterwards after they asked me to record some stuff for them.
- [22:57] <@StackOverflow> if I wanted to be paid from jagex, I would've taken the job offer
- [22:57] <+ReubenMcHawk> yeah stack u just mad cuz he's gettin $$$
- [22:57] < MooseElkingtons> exactly, StackOverflow.
- [22:57] <@StackOverflow> and I actually did do work, unlike you
- [22:57] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: record what?
- [22:57] < MooseElkingtons> yes, I totally ripped you off
- [22:57] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, of how my exploits worked.
- [22:57] < SpaceVixen> Wut
- [22:58] < SpaceVixen> So wait
- [22:58] <+ReubenMcHawk> out of line to ask, but how much did they give you?
- [22:58] < MooseElkingtons> $500.
- [22:58] < SpaceVixen> You helped them fix the exploits you created?
- [22:58] < MooseElkingtons> yes, SpaceVixen.
- [22:58] <@StackOverflow> others created*
- [22:58] <+ReubenMcHawk> and you bought those three games for $500
- [22:58] < SpaceVixen> Haha what the hell
- [22:58] < MooseElkingtons> and StackOverflow is being an ass over it.
- [22:58] <+ReubenMcHawk> because you needed attention from eight year olds over it
- [22:58] < SpaceVixen> What's there to be mad about
- [22:58] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, it was more around $350
- [22:58] <@StackOverflow> I'd rather be an ass than an attention whore
- [22:59] <+ReubenMcHawk> SpaceVixen: after he gave them exploits he went on the forums and posted them to show off
- [22:59] < MooseElkingtons> I blew the other $150 on a chair and SotC and some headphones
- [22:59] < MooseElkingtons> oh and a PS2
- [22:59] < SpaceVixen> Sooo... you're bragging about making $500?
- [22:59] <+ReubenMcHawk> big money baller
- [22:59] < SpaceVixen> I don't get it
- [22:59] < SpaceVixen> Still
- [22:59] < MooseElkingtons> yeah, I'm making the big G's.
- [22:59] < MooseElkingtons> gotta make people recognize
- [22:59] <+ReubenMcHawk> he's bragging about being master hekr
- [22:59] < MooseElkingtons> master hekr
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, even ReubenMcHawk could verify I created those exploits.
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> and so could rak
- [23:00] <@StackOverflow> which ones
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> and amontons
- [23:00] <@StackOverflow> the crashing exploit?
- [23:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> he made the server crash one
- [23:00] <@StackOverflow> what else
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> the crashing exploits, the server overload
- [23:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> i don't remember
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> DLC exploits
- [23:00] <@StackOverflow> server overload?
- [23:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> didn't DLC exploit not work?
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> caused the server to overload
- [23:00] <@StackOverflow> noshit
- [23:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> also didn't amontons find the steam crash one?
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, it did work
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> no, I found the steam crash.
- [23:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> the one you gave me didn't work
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, it did work
- [23:00] < MooseElkingtons> no, I found the steam crash.
- [23:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> the one you gave me didn't work
- [23:01] < MooseElkingtons> he found the achievement thing
- [23:01] <@StackOverflow> okay, what about this
- [23:01] <@StackOverflow> how did you hook into the process
- [23:01] <+ReubenMcHawk> good point
- [23:01] <+ReubenMcHawk> it was all based off of rak's stuff iirc
- [23:01] < MooseElkingtons> amontons help
- [23:01] < MooseElkingtons> but before, rak's.
- [23:01] <@StackOverflow> right
- [23:02] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, do you accredit microsoft for .NET?
- [23:02] <@StackOverflow> ....wat
- [23:02] < MooseElkingtons> I didn't give people rak's hacks, or amontons' exploit.
- [23:02] <@StackOverflow> whatever weak argument you're trying to make here, just stop
- [23:02] <+ReubenMcHawk> you gave them something you found with the use of rak's hacks
- [23:02] <@StackOverflow> it's a bit different between a company and an individual
- [23:02] <@StackOverflow> especially with that kind of stuff
- [23:03] <@StackOverflow> generally, being a leecher is a bad thing
- [23:03] < MooseElkingtons> generally, being an ass who takes things out of context is a bad thing
- [23:03] <+ReubenMcHawk> also at that point you shouldn't need attention
- [23:03] <@StackOverflow> what am I taking out of context
- [23:03] <@StackOverflow> you keep saying that
- [23:03] <+ReubenMcHawk> shit, i never made anything, never claimed to, but i still was the talk of the forums
- [23:03] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you never accredit the small people.
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> you also didn't brag about it
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> unlike moose
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> who?
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> examples please
- [23:04] < SpaceVixen> But uhh... I'm still missing something. What's there to brag about?
- [23:04] <+ReubenMcHawk> master hacker
- [23:04] < MooseElkingtons> the people who make external dependencies for your projects, the tools you use to manage your project.
- [23:04] < SpaceVixen> "Hey everyone I broke the game you like to play and got paid $500 to fix it"
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> what external dependencies?
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> please, give examples
- [23:04] < MooseElkingtons> even when people asked, I told them I couldn't have done it without rak's help.
- [23:04] <+ReubenMcHawk> even on the forums when you had your shameless display?
- [23:04] <@StackOverflow> if I use a 3rd party lib, yes I give credit
- [23:05] < MooseElkingtons> I don't know, I'm not looking over your shoulder.
- [23:05] <@StackOverflow> so you don't have an actual argument
- [23:05] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, don't act like you haven't done so.
- [23:05] <@StackOverflow> you're just talking out of your ass
- [23:05] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you're saying I don't, I'm saying I did.
- [23:05] <@StackOverflow> [23:03] <MooseElkingtons> the people who make external dependencies for your projects, the tools you use to manage your project
- [23:05] <@StackOverflow> examples
- [23:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: LOL
- [23:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> no
- [23:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> other people talked about me
- [23:05] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, remember that time you posted that video of you hacking/
- [23:05] < EldredChandler> Like me
- [23:05] < MooseElkingtons> ?
- [23:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> in IRC?
- [23:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> yeah
- [23:06] < MooseElkingtons> no, the other one
- [23:06] < MooseElkingtons> the griefing one
- [23:06] < MooseElkingtons> you posted it on the aos forums
- [23:06] <+ReubenMcHawk> yeah, that was "look at me griefing and pissing these kids off"
- [23:06] <+ReubenMcHawk> nobody even noticed the rapid dig lol
- [23:06] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, I'm unable to back that up because I don't watch over your shoulder.
- [23:06] <@StackOverflow> so why say it at all?
- [23:06] < EldredChandler> baseless claims ;-;
- [23:06] <@StackOverflow> if you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything
- [23:06] < MooseElkingtons> because I expected that I'd come up with something
- [23:06] < MooseElkingtons> guess not
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> just like if you can't figure out an exploit on your own, don't take credit for it
- [23:07] < MooseElkingtons> however, I have given credit to rak and amontons.
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> on the forums?
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> no
- [23:07] <+ReubenMcHawk> to jagex?
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> to jagex?
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> no
- [23:07] <+ReubenMcHawk> lol
- [23:07] < MooseElkingtons> can you verify that I did?
- [23:07] <+ReubenMcHawk> can you?
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> see: your forum posts
- [23:07] < MooseElkingtons> taken credits for someone else exploits, that is
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> ...
- [23:07] < MooseElkingtons> I told people ingame, ReubenMcHawk.
- [23:07] <@StackOverflow> can you really not read
- [23:08] < MooseElkingtons> can you really not read?
- [23:08] <@StackOverflow> if you need some proof of your shameless attention whoring, just look at your aos profile
- [23:08] < MooseElkingtons> you're saying I can't prove that those exploits I publicly posted were mine
- [23:08] <@StackOverflow> plenty of examples there
- [23:08] < MooseElkingtons> however amontons, reuben, and rak can verify
- [23:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> re-link me to exploit post plz
- [23:08] < SpaceVixen> I want to see
- [23:08] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, do it yourself.
- [23:09] <+ReubenMcHawk> waah
- [23:09] <+ReubenMcHawk> too much effort
- [23:09] < MooseElkingtons> exactly
- [23:09] <+ReubenMcHawk> if mr sassy doesn't want me to verify what he says them fine
- [23:09] < MooseElkingtons> other than you could verify. I'm the one who gave you my exploits
- [23:09] <@StackOverflow> "my"
- [23:09] < MooseElkingtons> my.
- [23:09] <+ReubenMcHawk> you gave me the crash ones, yes
- [23:10] < MooseElkingtons> and the DLC exploit
- [23:10] <+ReubenMcHawk> the one you gave me didn't work for getting into DLC servers, but yes
- [23:10] < MooseElkingtons> see, StackOverflow?
- [23:10] <@StackOverflow> so 1-2 exploits
- [23:10] <@StackOverflow> vs how many you bragged about
- [23:10] <@StackOverflow> and posted
- [23:10] <@StackOverflow> k
- [23:11] <@StackOverflow> great argument 10/1
- [23:11] < MooseElkingtons> fine, I'll dig up that post
- [23:11] <@StackOverflow> 10/10 even
- [23:11] < MooseElkingtons> just so you could stop being an ass.
- [23:11] <@StackOverflow> you made multiple posts
- [23:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> and lol at you saying i do the same
- [23:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> all i brag about is pissing people off
- [23:11] <@StackOverflow> reuben posted the stuff, sure. but he never took credit for it or bragged about
- [23:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> i was doing the same thing way before hacks came into my hands
- [23:11] <@StackOverflow> usually quite the opposite actually
- [23:12] < EldredChandler> bad man roobin
- [23:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> usually i said dudemon made the hacks
- [23:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> so they'd go bother him
- [23:12] < MooseElkingtons> http://www.aceofspades.com/forums/showthread.php?20470-MooseElkingtons-Super-Fun-Magical-List-of-Exploits
- [23:12] <@StackOverflow> lets see
- [23:12] < MooseElkingtons> oh, the lobby kick evasion was first discovered by amontons, however, I figured it out on my own.
- [23:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> Credits(they're all the same person):
- [23:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> Moose Elkingtons
- [23:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> Fluegel
- [23:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> The_Doctor
- [23:12] <@StackOverflow> having somebody else post "your" exploits
- [23:12] <@StackOverflow> sure is attention whoring
- [23:13] < MooseElkingtons> yes, because they kept deleting mine
- [23:13] <+ReubenMcHawk> you sure credited all the people that helped
- [23:13] <@StackOverflow> yes
- [23:13] <@StackOverflow> all those credits
- [23:13] <+ReubenMcHawk> and yeah you're not even posting anything useful
- [23:13] <+ReubenMcHawk> just a vague direction of how it's done
- [23:13] <+ReubenMcHawk> it's bragging plain and simple
- [23:13] < SpaceVixen> "her/his"
- [23:13] <+ReubenMcHawk> the fuckwits and yetichows have no clue how it works
- [23:13] < MooseElkingtons> "oh my god he explicitly explains how it's done. so useless"
- [23:14] < SpaceVixen> Are you... Uh
- [23:14] <+ReubenMcHawk> the fuckwits and yetichows have no clue how it works
- [23:14] < SpaceVixen> Nvm
- [23:14] <+ReubenMcHawk> yes it is
- [23:14] <@StackOverflow> "look guise, I'm so technical and pro hekr"
- [23:14] <+ReubenMcHawk> i'm guessing this was around the time you got soft on jagex
- [23:14] <+ReubenMcHawk> because they sent the good cop in to talk to you
- [23:14] <+ReubenMcHawk> and get the exploits from you
- [23:15] < MooseElkingtons> "look guise this guy is faike he is claiming credit for things he could prove he solves so fukkin phony oh my god lets be stupid and
- deny everything he says lelelelelleelll"
- [23:15] <+ReubenMcHawk> http://pastebin.com/Sk2Z1UEM NEVER FORGET
- [23:15] < DerpyBot> "moose lost it - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
- [23:15] <@StackOverflow> "prove"
- [23:15] < MooseElkingtons> sounds*
- [23:15] < EldredChandler> lol
- [23:15] <@StackOverflow> if you aren't going to even have a proper argument, don't bother
- [23:15] < MooseElkingtons> tl;dr
- [23:15] <+ReubenMcHawk> can't hear you over that strawman moose
- [23:15] <+ReubenMcHawk> tl;dr you sold out
- [23:15] <+ReubenMcHawk> lol
- [23:15] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you should take your own advice.
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> srsly moose i think you're bipolar
- [23:16] <@StackOverflow> I haven't said anything baseless
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> like no joke or anything
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> because one second you're a totally cool person to talk to
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> then the next you're being a fuckboy
- [23:16] < MooseElkingtons> "oh the guys at jagex aren't as bad now."
- [23:16] < MooseElkingtons> total sellout
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> yes
- [23:16] < EldredChandler> Imnplying they ever were
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> they sent a nice guy
- [23:16] <@StackOverflow> chris <3<3<3
- [23:16] <+ReubenMcHawk> he acted all friendly and played you like a flute
- [23:16] < MooseElkingtons> and you did make yourself look like an asshat
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> yes
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> and somehow i made bns look bad
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> a forum i didn't even post on at the time
- [23:17] < MooseElkingtons> also, who cares? I made $500 off my shitty exploits.
- [23:17] <@StackOverflow> "my"
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> LOL
- [23:17] < EldredChandler> and lost it :)
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> i don't give a fuck about your money, dude
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> and weren't you bitching about being dirt poor and having no food?
- [23:17] < EldredChandler> Yes
- [23:17] < MooseElkingtons> the food on amazon is too expensive
- [23:17] <+ReubenMcHawk> i'd spend that 500 on something better than a chair and video games
- [23:18] < MooseElkingtons> like $30 for shipping a bag of chips
- [23:18] < EldredChandler> Theres an invention called markets
- [23:18] < EldredChandler> might want to look into that
- [23:18] < Exor> I'd get my roof fixed :P
- [23:18] <+ReubenMcHawk> either you're full of shit or just stupid
- [23:19] <@StackOverflow> [23:16] <MooseElkingtons> also, who cares? I made $500 off my shitty exploits.
- [23:19] <@StackOverflow> that sound like something a lil wayne fan would say
- [23:19] <+ReubenMcHawk> HAHAHA
- [23:19] <@StackOverflow> "who cares he's rich unlike u"
- [23:19] <+ReubenMcHawk> YMCMB 4 lyfe
- [23:19] < SpaceVixen> Lmfao
- [23:20] <+ReubenMcHawk> lizard looking motherfucker
- [23:20] < Exor> I have a entire $8 in my waller
- [23:20] < Exor> wallet*
- [23:20] < MooseElkingtons> what
- [23:20] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, what kind of bullshit are you trying to spew out now.
- [23:20] <@StackOverflow> what
- [23:20] <@StackOverflow> I was quoting you
- [23:20] <@StackOverflow> so...
- [23:20] < MooseElkingtons> <StackOverflow> that sound like something a lil wayne fan would say
- [23:21] <@StackOverflow> yes
- [23:21] < MooseElkingtons> actually, I don't really care anymore.
- [23:21] <+ReubenMcHawk> of course not
- [23:21] <@StackOverflow> "I can fault your argument, so I'll default to loligotmoney"
- [23:21] <@StackOverflow> can't*
- [23:21] < EldredChandler> beeped
- [23:21] < MooseElkingtons> what
- [23:21] <+ReubenMcHawk> loool
- [23:21] < MooseElkingtons> "he's proving me wrong, quick if I say I'm right I'm right"
- [23:21] <@StackOverflow> took me a sec to realize what you got beeped for
- [23:22] < MooseElkingtons> ^ StackLogic
- [23:22] < Buffalo> Buy AMD.
- [23:22] <+ReubenMcHawk> wat
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> you've proven nobody wrong here
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> at all
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> you've just made yourself look like an "ass"
- [23:22] <+ReubenMcHawk> all you've said is "i got money"
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> as you would put it
- [23:22] < Exor> Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt this little skermish ^^;
- [23:22] < EldredChandler> Stop talking so fast guys, hard to PB in real time
- [23:22] < MooseElkingtons> "If I keep denying it I'll show him who's boss"
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> learn to peanut butter faster
- [23:22] < EldredChandler> Im trying
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> meta arguments
- [23:22] <@StackOverflow> classy
- [23:22] < Exor> He's just jelly
- [23:22] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: quit with the strawmen
- [23:22] <+ReubenMcHawk> and find an actual argument rather than misquoting
- [23:24] < MooseElkingtons> yes, this argument evolved from "those aren't your exploits, you didn't even get paid for them." to "Okay, you got paid for them,
- and proven those are your exploits. However, you didn't design the tools you used." and finally "Those aren't your exploits and you
- don't deserve that money"
- [23:24] < MooseElkingtons> you should be a politician, StackOverflow
- [23:24] <@StackOverflow> implying you proved anything
- [23:24] < MooseElkingtons> you got the brain for it
- [23:24] < Buffalo> That proves [argument]!
- [23:24] < Exor> Politicians have brains?
- [23:24] < Exor> Why was I not informed
- [23:24] <@StackOverflow> I do enjoy politics, but I enjoy realism and logic too much to be a politician
- [23:25] < EldredChandler> Exor: Big boys are talking shh
- [23:25] < Exor> But I wanna talk toooo! :'c
- [23:25] < Exor> I apologize, continue, s'il vous plait
- [23:26] < Buffalo> No French allowed.
- [23:26] <+ReubenMcHawk> well yeah MooseElkingtons i didn't know you got money for the exploits, never seen you brag about them
- [23:26] <+ReubenMcHawk> until now, apparently
- [23:26] < EldredChandler> This has been going on for an hour
- [23:26] < Buffalo> EldredChandler: surmise it for me.
- [23:26] < Exor> Pourquoi pas!?
- [23:27] < Buffalo> tu madre es verde
- [23:27] <@StackOverflow> Buffalo, everything has fallen on deaf ears, apparently
- [23:28] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, I didn't give them the exploits for the money.
- [23:28] < MooseElkingtons> even ask Chris, if you want the whole story
- [23:28] <+ReubenMcHawk> all i'm saying is it's shameless attention whoring to post those barely-even-guides on your exploits on the forums, after you gave them
- to jagex, no matter if you made them or how much money you got from it
- [23:28] < Exor> Mensonges, elle est magenta
- [23:28] <+ReubenMcHawk> you did it because why? had a change of heart?
- [23:28] <@StackOverflow> "bored"
- [23:28] <+ReubenMcHawk> ol' chrissy got to ya
- [23:29] <@StackOverflow> the leecher life ain't easy
- [23:29] <@StackOverflow> gotta pay the bills
- [23:29] <+ReubenMcHawk> lol
- [23:29] < MooseElkingtons> you're still going with that argument, even though I proved you wrong?
- [23:29] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you are so intelligent, but you're just not using your brain :(
- [23:29] <@StackOverflow> first prove any of us wrong, then you can claim that
- [23:30] <+ReubenMcHawk> someone's full of himself tonight
- [23:30] <@StackOverflow> I presume this is your logic moose: everybody else is wrong. I am right. I proved them all wrong. lol what idiots. this whole world is stupid I am the only smart one left
- [23:30] < MooseElkingtons> I agree, ReubenMcHawk.
- [23:31] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, are you sure that's not your logic?
- [23:31] <+ReubenMcHawk> lmfao MooseElkingtons cmon you KNOW i meant you
- [23:31] < MooseElkingtons> because that's how you act all the time.
- [23:31] <+ReubenMcHawk> try logic better than a 13 year old
- [23:31] <@StackOverflow> no. because if you were able to provide a bit of evidence that proved otherwise, I'd admit I was wrong
- [23:31] <@StackOverflow> but you haven't
- [23:31] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons on some /r/atheism level tonight
- [23:31] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you haven't provided ANY evidence at all.
- [23:31] <@StackOverflow> ...
- [23:31] < MooseElkingtons> I provided evidence.
- [23:31] <@StackOverflow> stop clearing your irc client before you read
- [23:32] < MooseElkingtons> your only valid argument is that I didn't accredit amontons for using his exploit to execute mine.
- [23:32] <@StackOverflow> I don't want to see you in here tomorrow claiming you were drunk and/or high as an excuse for you acting this stupid
- [23:32] < EldredChandler> lol
- [23:33] < MooseElkingtons> I'm sober though :(
- [23:33] <@StackOverflow> that's even worse then
- [23:33] < MooseElkingtons> I hope you're not this stupid tomorrow, though.
- [23:33] <@StackOverflow> are you done with the 2nd grade comebacks and meta arguments?
- [23:33] < EldredChandler> inb4 are you
- [23:33] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: i'm not joking about the bipolar thing
- [23:33] <+ReubenMcHawk> i've known you for what like two years now
- [23:34] < MooseElkingtons> are you done with arguing that I'm wrong, even though I refuted all except one of your arguments?
- [23:34] <+ReubenMcHawk> you have like split personalities
- [23:34] <@StackOverflow> >refuted
- [23:34] <@StackOverflow> I don't think you know what that word means
- [23:34] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, prolly. I wouldn't be too surprised. my grandmother and uncle have/had it.
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- [23:34] <@StackOverflow> oh look you actually gave them credit
- [23:34] <+ReubenMcHawk> that explains it all then
- [23:34] <+ReubenMcHawk> LOL
- [23:34] < MooseElkingtons> I don't think you know what being wrong means.
- [23:34] < EldredChandler> progress
- [23:35] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, I have no choice but to argue with StackOverflow when he's being as stupid as he is tonight, though.
- [23:36] <+ReubenMcHawk> says mr "look at me i have money"
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- [23:36] < MooseElkingtons> I said that to prove StackOverflow that they wouldn't have paid me unless they knew I didn't create them.
- [23:37] < MooseElkingtons> I did*
- [23:37] <+ReubenMcHawk> freudian slip
- [23:37] <@StackOverflow> you were right the first time
- [23:37] < EldredChandler> beat me to it ReubenMcHawk
- [23:37] <+ReubenMcHawk> i was more referring to this
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- [23:37] <+ReubenMcHawk> 03:18:48 < MooseElkingtons> also, who cares? I made $500 off my shitty exploits.
- [23:37] <+ReubenMcHawk> childish ass shit
- [23:37] < Buffalo> I make money from work..
- [23:37] <@StackOverflow> implying all of his "arguments" haven't been childish
- [23:37] <+ReubenMcHawk> can't stop bragging for five seconds
- [23:37] < MooseElkingtons> oh yes, that was because I don't care; I got $500 off those shitty exploits, and there's nothing to really change that.
- [23:38] <+ReubenMcHawk> nobody's trying to
- [23:38] < Buffalo> MooseElkingtons: where is that money now?
- [23:38] <+ReubenMcHawk> stupid people get money for stupid reasons all the time
- [23:38] < Buffalo> Should've bought AMD.
- [23:38] <+ReubenMcHawk> it's the way the world works
- [23:38] < MooseElkingtons> I got $1 left on amazon
- [23:38] < MooseElkingtons> Buffalo, I was going to, but dothack G.U. seemed more important at the time
- [23:38] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, but stack's over here crying about it.
- [23:38] <@StackOverflow> crying?
- [23:38] < MooseElkingtons> yes
- [23:38] <+ReubenMcHawk> >crying
- [23:38] <@StackOverflow> yes
- [23:38] < MooseElkingtons> crying
- [23:38] < Buffalo> CRYING
- [23:38] <@StackOverflow> s/crying/pointing out
- [23:39] < Buffalo> /
- [23:39] <+ReubenMcHawk> and yeah you didn't credit rak or amontons at all on that thread
- [23:39] <+ReubenMcHawk> so there's that
- [23:39] <@StackOverflow> you can generally tell when somebody is losing an argument, (nevermind the childish banter) when they start claiming the other person is crying
- [23:39] <@StackOverflow> next you'll start saying we're trolls
- [23:39] <@StackOverflow> or that you're trolling
- [23:39] <@StackOverflow> either or
- [23:39] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, I didn't credit rak for unused code.
- [23:39] < Buffalo> >Jokes on you, I was pretending to be retarded!
- [23:39] <+ReubenMcHawk> erm
- [23:40] <+ReubenMcHawk> you found all of that through his cheat though
- [23:40] < MooseElkingtons> and I didn't credit amontons because he didn't ask me to
- [23:40] <+ReubenMcHawk> shouldn't have to be asked to give credit where credit is due
- [23:40] <@StackOverflow> it'd not a matter of if they asked you to
- [23:40] < MooseElkingtons> he saw that thread, and if he had anything against it, he would've said something
- [23:40] <+ReubenMcHawk> maybe he was too polite
- [23:40] < MooseElkingtons> yes ReubenMcHawk I didn't give credit to him for my exploits
- [23:40] <+ReubenMcHawk> i'm pretty sure it was him that was talking to me on steam about you taking credit for other shit
- [23:41] < MooseElkingtons> I would credit everyone who indirectly helped me discover those exploits
- [23:41] < EldredChandler> Why did you start bragging about the money? before you got it you told me you didn't want anyone knowing you were getting paid MooseElkingtons
- [23:41] < MooseElkingtons> but the list would be too long and their anti-spam would be triggered :(
- [23:41] <+ReubenMcHawk> because he's $$$ getting money $$$
- [23:41] <@StackOverflow> was that before or after he bragged about other people's exploits
- [23:41] < MooseElkingtons> EldredChandler, ?
- [23:41] < MooseElkingtons> what month was this
- [23:41] <@StackOverflow> or was that before or after he bragged about the money
- [23:42] < EldredChandler> Like a week before you got paid
- [23:42] < EldredChandler> or the day you did
- [23:42] < MooseElkingtons> hm
- [23:42] <@StackOverflow> you even messaged me about it
- [23:42] < MooseElkingtons> that doesn't sound right, because I told stack and other people about it
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- [23:42] < MooseElkingtons> I think you're thinking about the contract, EldredChandler.
- [23:43] < EldredChandler> I don't think so
- [23:43] < MooseElkingtons> and I was the first person to tell you so, and I forgot, I need advice.
- [23:43] < MooseElkingtons> so generally, I came to people who thought would help me
- [23:43] < MooseElkingtons> who I thought*
- [23:43] < EldredChandler> How would I be able to help
- [23:43] < MooseElkingtons> I'm not denying that I didn't credit amontons publicly, because I didn't.
- [23:44] < MooseElkingtons> I would apologize to him, but he's gone
- [23:44] < MooseElkingtons> I haven't seen him in a few months
- [23:44] <+ReubenMcHawk> i talked to him a few weeks ago
- [23:44] < MooseElkingtons> EldredChandler, I was telling you I was going to get odthack G.U.
- [23:44] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, over steam?
- [23:44] <+ReubenMcHawk> i think that was when he mentioned the thing about you giving jagex his shit
- [23:44] <+ReubenMcHawk> yeah
- [23:44] < MooseElkingtons> I never gave jagex his shit. Ask crispy; they asked me to give him his shit, and I said I wouldn't.
- [23:45] < MooseElkingtons> the only shit I gave them was my shit
- [23:45] <+ReubenMcHawk> given your lack of attribution in that thread, i'm more inclined to believe amontons
- [23:45] <@StackOverflow> why would they even need that? there are a few well known ways to get into a processes memory space
- [23:45] <@StackOverflow> that's not what they would want/need
- [23:45] < MooseElkingtons> do what you want, ReubenMcHawk. I can't contorl you
- [23:45] < MooseElkingtons> control*
- [23:45] <+ReubenMcHawk> "lol idgaf"
- [23:45] < MooseElkingtons> yes
- [23:45] < MooseElkingtons> exactly
- [23:46] < MooseElkingtons> I can't stop you from not believing me
- [23:46] < MooseElkingtons> at this point it seems useless to convince both of you otherwise
- [23:46] <+ReubenMcHawk> because you can't
- [23:46] <+ReubenMcHawk> because you're wrong
- [23:46] <@StackOverflow> ^
- [23:46] < MooseElkingtons> whatever
- [23:46] <+ReubenMcHawk> you're just trying to make us look unreasonable
- [23:46] <+ReubenMcHawk> so gg in that
- [23:47] <+ReubenMcHawk> 13 year old argument tactics 101
- [23:47] < MooseElkingtons> btw, I highly doubt amontons would say that, afterall, he's the one who went up to jagex first and gave him my exploits for free.
- [23:47] < MooseElkingtons> he claimed he was drunk when he did it.
- [23:47] <+ReubenMcHawk> any proof of that?
- [23:47] <+ReubenMcHawk> and if he gave them your exploits why would they give you $500
- [23:47] <+ReubenMcHawk> they don't have money to throw around exactly
- [23:48] < MooseElkingtons> ask him yourself
- [23:49] <+ReubenMcHawk> not on steam
- [23:49] <+ReubenMcHawk> guess we can't verify if this is true
- [23:51] < MooseElkingtons> okay, then verify it when he comes back whenever.
- [23:52] <+ReubenMcHawk> doubt i need to, honestly
- [23:52] <+ReubenMcHawk> even if he did, he didn't go bragging like a kid
- [23:52] <+ReubenMcHawk> though honestly it don't matter, game's dead anyway
- [23:57] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, why would he brag about it? he gave it away for free
- [23:57] < MooseElkingtons> I give something of mine away for free, no one cares.
- [23:57] < MooseElkingtons> The second they pay me $500 in amazon vouchers a few weeks later, everyone goes batshit crazy.
- [23:58] < MooseElkingtons> with accusations with no grounds, things taken out of context, and general asshattery.
- [00:00] <@StackOverflow> there are grounds
- [00:00] <@StackOverflow> nothing was taken out of context
- [00:00] <@StackOverflow> and the only asshattery is from you
- [00:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons: i was calling it stupid from day one
- [00:00] <@StackOverflow> and I've mentioned this before, not just tonight
- [00:00] <+ReubenMcHawk> just because you don't see any grounds doesn't mean they're not there
- [00:01] <+ReubenMcHawk> world don't revolve around you
- [00:01] <@StackOverflow> even before you got paid
- [00:02] < MooseElkingtons> >doesn't provide any evidence about me leeching those exploits I posted on the forums
- [00:02] < MooseElkingtons> >takes multiple conversations out of contexts
- [00:02] <@StackOverflow> are you really this stupid
- [00:02] <@StackOverflow> "Are you"
- [00:02] < MooseElkingtons> >still acts like an ass after everything has been proven wrong
- [00:02] <@StackOverflow> all you've done is call me an ass but nothing else
- [00:03] <@StackOverflow> butt*
- [00:03] < Exor> This is still going on?
- [00:03] <@StackOverflow> yes
- [00:03] * MooseElkingtons sighs
- [00:03] < MooseElkingtons> You talk to much
- [00:03] < Exor> Christ almighty
- [00:03] < MooseElkingtons> too*
- [00:03] <@StackOverflow> it's been proven you've leeched
- [00:03] < MooseElkingtons> no it hasn't
- [00:03] < MooseElkingtons> you say it has
- [00:03] < MooseElkingtons> it hasn't
- [00:03] <@StackOverflow> stop being dense
- [00:03] <@StackOverflow> "if I refuse to believe it, it's not true!"
- [00:03] < MooseElkingtons> I seriously can't figure out if you're intentionally doing this, or you've lost it.
- [00:04] < Exor> I can sum up this argument in 1 statement
- [00:04] <@StackOverflow> I assume you're talking about yourself?
- [00:04] < Exor> Agree to disagree :P
- [00:04] <@StackOverflow> others have pointed out your inconsistencies
- [00:04] <@StackOverflow> so you can't say it's just me
- [00:04] < MooseElkingtons> I think you're in your own bubble.
- [00:04] <+ReubenMcHawk> LOL
- [00:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> says you
- [00:05] <@StackOverflow> yes. everybody else is in their own bubble
- [00:05] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, you told StackOverflow that I gave you those exploits
- [00:05] <@StackOverflow> [23:29] <@StackOverflow> I presume this is your logic moose: everybody else is wrong. I am right. I proved them all wrong. lol what
- idiots. this whole world is stupid I am the only smart one left
- [00:05] < MooseElkingtons> and that rakiru could verify that I created them
- [00:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> yeah
- [00:05] < MooseElkingtons> the only one I did not discover first was the votekick exploit, which I still figured out on my own
- [00:05] < MooseElkingtons> and yet I'm still called a leech.
- [00:05] <+ReubenMcHawk> i'm just calling you an attention whore
- [00:06] < MooseElkingtons> which I won't argue with
- [00:06] < MooseElkingtons> most of it was me just being an attention whore
- [00:06] <@StackOverflow> "i saw what they did and figured it out, therefor I created it"
- [00:06] < Exor> Isn't bribing someone for the solution to a products faults considered leeching?
- [00:06] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, you're so silly.
- [00:06] < MooseElkingtons> Exor, no
- [00:07] <@StackOverflow> try to reverse it all you want, the only one who looks "silly" here is you
- [00:07] < MooseElkingtons> okay, whatever you say.
- [00:07] <+ReubenMcHawk> StackOverflow: in his head, we're the silly ones
- [00:07] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, you're not silly
- [00:07] <@StackOverflow> "this whole world is stupid I am the only smart one left"
- [00:07] < MooseElkingtons> you're right, I was an attention whore
- [00:07] < MooseElkingtons> a leech, though? no.
- [00:07] < Exor> ReubenMcHawk, sounds like Washington DC in a nutshell
- [00:07] <+ReubenMcHawk> you sure seemed to call me stupid in that IRC log
- [00:07] <+ReubenMcHawk> for posting information that i had access to
- [00:07] < MooseElkingtons> no, I called you stupid for posting something on the forum
- [00:08] < MooseElkingtons> I can't remember what it was
- [00:08] <@StackOverflow> moose, if you are still confused/have not learned anything from this
- [00:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> it was the reports dump
- [00:08] <@StackOverflow> please reread the logs
- [00:08] < MooseElkingtons> but you made me and amontons look like retards
- [00:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> uh no
- [00:08] <@StackOverflow> you did that yourself
- [00:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> that log even refers to my blog
- [00:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> and you don't need me to look retarded
- [00:08] < MooseElkingtons> StackOverflow, jesus christ you need to shut up already, this is getting annoying.
- [00:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> >telling him to shut up
- [00:08] <+ReubenMcHawk> haha
- [00:08] < EldredChandler> ya StackOverflow, MooseElkingtons with keep owning you if you don't stop >:(
- [00:09] <@StackOverflow> sry. I'm just mad cause I didn't get money and am constantly getting rekt by his surefire logic.
- [00:09] < MooseElkingtons> I'm just tired of this argument.
- [00:09] < MooseElkingtons> it's stupid and unfounded.
- [00:09] <+ReubenMcHawk> but you keep arguing
- [00:10] <+ReubenMcHawk> you've already resorted to "whatever"
- [00:10] <+ReubenMcHawk> next on the empty response list is "k"
- [00:10] < MooseElkingtons> I got nothing else to say
- [00:10] < MooseElkingtons> I already proved him wrong.
- [00:10] < EldredChandler> Yes, pull a Fornax
- [00:10] < MooseElkingtons> He just keeps denying it.
- [00:10] <@StackOverflow> implying you've actually said anything up to this point
- [00:11] < MooseElkingtons> there isn't even an argument here.
- [00:11] < MooseElkingtons> It's just him going around in circles
- [00:11] <@StackOverflow> on our end, yes. on yours, no just dribble
- [00:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> MooseElkingtons could use a fedora
- [00:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> 04:11:56 < MooseElkingtons> I got nothing else to say
- [00:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> 04:11:59 < MooseElkingtons> I already proved him wrong.
- [00:11] <+ReubenMcHawk> such pretentiousness
- [00:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> you've only proved him wrong in your own head
- [00:12] < EldredChandler> ReubenMcHawk: fun fact, one of my irl buddies talks like that and wears a fedora
- [00:12] < EldredChandler> ithurttolive.png
- [00:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> nobody else has sided with you here
- [00:12] <+ReubenMcHawk> EldredChandler: speaking of fedoras...
- [00:12] < MooseElkingtons> ReubenMcHawk, sorry for calling you a retard, I think I may have been a bit affected by external situations
- [00:12] < MooseElkingtons> I didn't mean it :(
- [00:12] <@StackOverflow> ohboy
- [00:12] < MooseElkingtons> lets be friends, k? <3
- [00:13] < Exor> It's over?
- [00:13] < Exor> Right when I get sat down with my popcorn
- [00:14] <@StackOverflow> maybe if you wait long enough, moose will actually have a coherent rebuttal
- [00:14] < MooseElkingtons> well there wasn't really any major conflict between reuben and I today, Exor. I just wanted to apologize to him because I may have been out of line a few months ago.
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