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  1. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 9 20:43:06 2017
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  3. Oct 09 20:43:06 * Now talking on #cemetech
  4. Oct 09 20:43:06 * Topic for #cemetech is: Cemetech.net | LTWTTF | MCTTCS | CALCULATORS | TRAINS | Robots?
  5. Oct 09 20:43:06 * Topic for #cemetech set by KermPhD (Mon Oct 9 01:29:05 2017)
  6. Oct 09 20:48:46 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] *poke poke*
  7. Oct 09 20:50:21 <saxjax> *KryptonicDragon continues poking PT
  8. Oct 09 20:50:42 <P_T> Hmm
  9. Oct 09 20:50:54 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Seems you missed my message 4 minutes ag
  10. Oct 09 20:50:55 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] ago*
  11. Oct 09 20:50:58 <P_T> Yeah
  12. Oct 09 20:51:25 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Can you read it from SAX?
  13. Oct 09 20:51:30 <P_T> Yes
  14. Oct 09 20:52:00 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] I have a bunch of program on the calc so I don't know why I can never get sum(20 to find them
  15. Oct 09 20:52:48 <P_T> Hmm, that byte 0 is weird
  16. Oct 09 20:52:50 <P_T> 5*
  17. Oct 09 20:52:57 <MateoC> Not really
  18. Oct 09 20:53:11 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] It's not a letter so it can't be a program name.
  19. Oct 09 20:53:30 <P_T> I guess it's ProgObj, but that is still weird because it should not include that byte in the name, right?
  20. Oct 09 20:53:44 <saxjax> [c4ooo] wth blender api sucks
  21. Oct 09 20:53:47 <MateoC> ICE sends the arguments incorrectly
  22. Oct 09 20:53:47 <P_T> 5 = program object
  23. Oct 09 20:53:51 <MateoC> Of course
  24. Oct 09 20:53:51 <P_T> Wut
  25. Oct 09 20:54:07 <MateoC> Yes?
  26. Oct 09 20:54:13 <MateoC> jacobly and I already went over this
  27. Oct 09 20:54:13 <P_T> What's wrong with them?
  28. Oct 09 20:54:22 <P_T> Oh? I didn't see that
  29. Oct 09 20:54:36 * MateoC goes to the logs
  30. Oct 09 20:55:15 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Okay silly me. Sorry, I was reading from where A is pointing to, instead of storing the output of sum(20 into a var and reading from where that points to
  31. Oct 09 20:56:35 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] I figured this out now, so horray!
  32. Oct 09 20:57:00 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Next bug: Pasting things in from [Trace] *sometimes* removes the newline byte after where it was pasted.
  33. Oct 09 20:57:08 <MateoC> Oh okay good :)
  34. Oct 09 20:57:19 * P_T wonders what's wrong with ICE then
  35. Oct 09 20:57:31 <saxjax> [Cemetech] andressevilla entered the room
  36. Oct 09 20:57:39 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Maybe nothing is wrong and it was all just confusion
  37. Oct 09 20:58:14 <P_T> Do you have a GIF where the newline is removed? I can't replicate it at all
  38. Oct 09 20:58:29 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Will try and make one, give me a few moments
  39. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] (KermM@2600:3c00:e000:2e:feed:beef:fade:1): Kerm
  40. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] #ti @#cemetech
  41. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] efnet.portlane.se :Portlane EFnet Server (IPv4, IPv6 & SSL)
  42. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] is away (Auto Away at Mon Oct 9 18:14:15 2017)
  43. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] is using a secure connection
  44. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] 2600:3c00:e000:2e:feed:beef:fade:1 :actually using host
  45. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] idle 00:50:12, signon: Sun Oct 8 20:38:29
  46. Oct 09 20:59:04 * [KermPhD] End of WHOIS list.
  47. Oct 09 20:59:53 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Is it possible to record in CEmu with frameskip at 0?
  48. Oct 09 21:01:23 <P_T> No
  49. Oct 09 21:02:03 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Okay this is strange. It happens on my physical calculator *sometimes* but I can't get it to happen in CEmu...
  50. Oct 09 21:02:16 <P_T> That is fun
  51. Oct 09 21:02:57 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] PT_, you're using CEmu, right? What TI OS version?
  52. Oct 09 21:03:19 <P_T> Yes, OS 5.3
  53. Oct 09 21:03:55 * JosJuice has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  54. Oct 09 21:06:49 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Okay I am unable to replicate this in CEmu, so I don't know what's happenning.
  55. Oct 09 21:07:36 <P_T> Can you try to figure out *when* it happens?
  56. Oct 09 21:09:00 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Every 2nd time I paste something in apparently. So if I put something in with Trace, doesnt happen, do it again and it does happen, do it again and it doesn't, again and it does. I can't figure out why.
  57. Oct 09 21:09:54 <P_T> Interesting. Let me catch my real calc too
  58. Oct 09 21:10:30 <saxjax> [Cemetech] _iPhoenix_ entered the room
  59. Oct 09 21:10:37 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] aaand now it's not doing that. It also doesnt seem to happen at all if I paste something in on the first *visible* line on the screen (not the actually first line of the program, but the first one that's drawn on screen).
  60. Oct 09 21:11:22 <MateoC> Where is the insert code P_T
  61. Oct 09 21:11:37 <P_T> https://github.com/PeterTillema/ICE/blob/C-version/hooks/hooks.asm
  62. Oct 09 21:11:44 <MateoC> Line?
  63. Oct 09 21:11:51 <P_T> Around 200 and up
  64. Oct 09 21:12:37 <MateoC> Um what is all this...
  65. Oct 09 21:13:08 <P_T> ?
  66. Oct 09 21:14:07 <saxjax> [Cemetech] OldNewTimer entered the room
  67. Oct 09 21:14:49 <MateoC> It should use textInsMode :P
  68. Oct 09 21:15:33 <P_T> What is that?
  69. Oct 09 21:15:45 <saxjax> *KryptonicDragon will be AFK for about 5 minute
  70. Oct 09 21:15:57 * commandz (~commandbl@h246.168.48.24.cable.angl.cmaaccess.com) has joined
  71. Oct 09 21:16:11 <saxjax> [Cemetech] Battlesquid entered the room
  72. Oct 09 21:17:29 <saxjax> [Cemetech] Jek entered the room
  73. Oct 09 21:18:14 <saxjax> [c4ooo] ok i got the bone structure printed recursively
  74. Oct 09 21:27:23 * Chessy (~Nik@p200300C22BC170002D09BD43FF937B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined
  75. Oct 09 21:29:08 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Any luck on the Trace problem?
  76. Oct 09 21:29:21 <P_T> No
  77. Oct 09 21:29:46 <P_T> I can't trigger it at all
  78. Oct 09 21:29:56 * Nik has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
  79. Oct 09 21:31:44 <KermPhD> comic, I can't handle how cute that little kitten on your Facebook is.
  80. Oct 09 21:31:52 <P_T> 0x5
  81. Oct 09 21:31:59 <KermPhD> Nik Chessy, where do we stand on news articles?
  82. Oct 09 21:32:05 <comic> I know! <3
  83. Oct 09 21:32:48 <saxjax> [Cemetech] huang87422896 registered and activated a new account
  84. Oct 09 21:32:56 <saxjax> [Cemetech] huang87422896 entered the room
  85. Oct 09 21:32:56 <Cemetech> huang87422896, welcome to Cemetech! Please introduce yourself in this topic: http://cemete.ch/t4925
  86. Oct 09 21:33:11 <KermPhD> Ahoy, huang.
  87. Oct 09 21:33:15 <saxjax> [Cemetech] Botboy3000 entered the room
  88. Oct 09 21:33:20 <KermPhD> I just want to snorgle it.
  89. Oct 09 21:33:25 <saxjax> [Cemetech] MateoConLechuga added a post in [List of things TI does to upset Mateo]( http://cemete.ch/p263995 )
  90. Oct 09 21:33:26 <P_T> \o/ Kerm
  91. Oct 09 21:33:41 <saxjax> [Botboy3000] howdy, kerm!
  92. Oct 09 21:33:54 <saxjax> [Cemetech] MateoConLechuga edited a post in [List of things TI does to upset Mateo]( http://cemete.ch/p262082 )
  93. Oct 09 21:34:39 <KermPhD> Howdy, Botboy! I know, Maker Faire photos and videos.
  94. Oct 09 21:34:40 <P_T> Are there 2 bytes for the type in the VAT?
  95. Oct 09 21:34:46 <KermPhD> Yes, T and T2.
  96. Oct 09 21:34:56 <KermPhD> We typically use T2 for the folder with shells.
  97. Oct 09 21:35:03 <P_T> Ah
  98. Oct 09 21:35:10 <P_T> But no TI OS use, outside PTT?
  99. Oct 09 21:35:15 <KermPhD> Not that we know of.
  100. Oct 09 21:35:17 <saxjax> [Botboy3000] kerm haha actually I was just saying hi ;P and also I seem to have found and fixed the Gameulator :D
  101. Oct 09 21:35:28 <KermPhD> Botboy, that's great! I know, but your presence reminded me. :)
  102. Oct 09 21:36:14 <saxjax> [Botboy3000] kerm: lol ok. I'm still trying to think of what to do with my perfectly boring ti-84 use I've got lying around...
  103. Oct 09 21:36:23 <saxjax> [Botboy3000] *pse
  104. Oct 09 21:36:56 <MateoC> They could have just left the 2nd byte alone and used a mask on the first byte >.>
  105. Oct 09 21:37:09 <P_T> But what variables use the 2nd byte?
  106. Oct 09 21:37:14 <MateoC> None
  107. Oct 09 21:37:20 <MateoC> It's only reset on PTT
  108. Oct 09 21:37:28 <P_T> <_<
  109. Oct 09 21:37:32 <saxjax> [Cemetech] commandblockguy entered the room
  110. Oct 09 21:37:37 <MateoC> It still annoys me :P
  111. Oct 09 21:37:41 <P_T> "T2 Reserved for future use"
  112. Oct 09 21:37:55 <MateoC> Future use by us
  113. Oct 09 21:37:57 <MateoC> Not TI
  114. Oct 09 21:37:59 * MateoC hides
  115. Oct 09 21:38:13 <P_T> Cesium doesn't use it, I assume, but DoorsCE will use it?
  116. Oct 09 21:38:20 <saxjax> [c4ooo] folders?
  117. Oct 09 21:38:21 * SopaXorzT has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  118. Oct 09 21:38:30 <MateoC> I mean; it would still work just fine
  119. Oct 09 21:38:40 * Chessy has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
  120. Oct 09 21:39:28 <KermPhD> Correct, P_T. *Uses, technically, except only on my calculators. :P
  121. Oct 09 21:39:42 <P_T> Heh
  122. Oct 09 21:39:50 * Genolol (~fear@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe93:8d42) has joined
  123. Oct 09 21:39:51 * P_T pokes Kerm to publish it :P
  124. Oct 09 21:43:18 * JosJuice (~JosJuice@ash.fagotten.org) has joined
  125. Oct 09 21:43:21 <P_T> More bugs found in ICE?
  126. Oct 09 21:43:44 <saxjax> *Botboy3000 froze 3 bugs in ice
  127. Oct 09 21:44:05 <saxjax> [Cemetech] _iPhoenix_ entered the room
  128. Oct 09 21:44:06 <saxjax> [Cemetech] _iPhoenix_ entered the room
  129. Oct 09 21:53:12 <saxjax> [Cemetech] beckadamtheinventor entered the room
  130. Oct 09 21:53:36 <MateoC> o/
  131. Oct 09 21:54:09 <saxjax> [KryptonicDragon] Are there logs of this chat anywhere? I missed an important message 30 minutes ago
  132. Oct 09 21:54:16 <P_T> I have logs
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