5:44 PM doog(113)       what do you think about me making a full BTC/LTC exhange bot?
5:45 PM doog(113)       like yours, but with an orderbook
5:45 PM doog(113)       so it only facilitates trades, and never runs out of coins
5:45 PM doog(113)       I don't want to step on your toes, but I think it would be useful
5:57 PM RGBKey(21102)   If you really think people on here could learn to use it, go ahead. But honestly, I doubt their ability to use anything like that.
5:57 PM RGBKey(21102)   The only reason I made my exchange bot was because it's simple
5:58 PM RGBKey(21102)   It's stateless, it only needs to know how to respond to tips, nothing more
5:58 PM RGBKey(21102)   But whatever you want, go ahead. Did you see my npm package for accessing the API?
6:00 PM doog(113)       I didn't look into the AP at all yet - just at the idea stage
6:00 PM RGBKey(21102)   The official API documentation is at https://dev.yolodice.com/
6:00 PM doog(113)       and you might be right. I like the simplicity of your bot
6:00 PM RGBKey(21102)   Here's my npm package: https://www.npmjs.com/package/yolodice-api
6:00 PM RGBKey(21102)   You can look through it if you want, but it's pretty simple (easy for me to say).
6:01 PM doog(113)       it could be as simple as: "first they have to pm the bot a number; it's the price they want; then if they send any LTC or BTC, that's considered an order"
6:01 PM RGBKey(21102)   Just provide it your API key (which is a Bitcoin private key), and it will connect and log in
6:01 PM doog(113)       if they send a tip without having said a number first, it gets sent back. or it could even be considered a market order
6:01 PM RGBKey(21102)   Trust me, I don't think it's possible to underestimate a lot of the people here. Sure there are some that would be able to use it, but who knows.
6:01 PM doog(113)       ie. it gets whatever the best offered price is
6:02 PM RGBKey(21102)   That just sounds like it will end up in a lot of complaining
6:02 PM doog(113)       that's the same everywhere I think. a general dumbing down of the population
6:02 PM RGBKey(21102)   Spare order book and market order leads to a buy of LTC for a very high price
6:02 PM doog(113)       sparce?
6:02 PM doog(113)       yeah
6:02 PM RGBKey(21102)   Sparse, yeah
6:02 PM doog(113)       that already happens on exchanges of course - but order book here is likely to be much thinner
6:03 PM RGBKey(21102)   Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
6:03 PM RGBKey(21102)   A very niche website, with a very small crowd of people that would be able to use such a market with proficiency.
6:03 PM doog(113)       yeah. I just know that when I was looking to buy LTC for BTC to play this contest, I couldn't find an easy way
6:04 PM doog(113)       I tried WIX, but my account is on a 3 day withdrawal lock
6:04 PM RGBKey(21102)   And you were totally right, I could integrate my exchange bot with an exchange and have it buy when I sell, to make sure I'm never losing money due to shifting markets and such, but I'm worried about KYC, and having to trade thousands and thousands of dollars back and forth
6:04 PM doog(113)       I tried bitfinex, but new accounts have to wait 5 days to withdraw
6:04 PM doog(113)       eventually binance worked for me - but they have a 2BTC per day limit too
6:04 PM RGBKey(21102)   I don't want the IRS to come knocking and expect me to pay hundreds in capital gains tax. Living in the US isn't fun
6:04 PM doog(113)       exactly
6:05 PM doog(113)       that's why a bot that works entirely via PM here is better
6:05 PM doog(113)       you're not even holding any coins - ethan holds them all
6:05 PM doog(113)       it's all off-chain
6:05 PM RGBKey(21102)   Right
6:05 PM RGBKey(21102)   I'm fine with how my bot works. I worry that if it were any more complicated than just tipping a certain user, nobody would want to learn to use it
6:06 PM RGBKey(21102)   If you want to try this though go ahead, you don't need my permission
6:06 PM RGBKey(21102)   You would need Ethan's though
6:06 PM doog(113)       I like how it works too - except that it didn't work for me... i wanted LTC and you didn't have any...
6:06 PM doog(113)       that's the problem I was wanting to solve
6:06 PM RGBKey(21102)   API keys by default cannot be granted chat and tip permissions by the user, ethan has to do it manually
6:06 PM doog(113)       I see
6:06 PM RGBKey(21102)   Now you could technically change the connection logic to use a websocket instead of the standard TLS connection, but then it's not as stable
6:07 PM RGBKey(21102)   And I'm not sure Ethan would appreciate that sort of back approach
6:07 PM doog(113)       back?
6:07 PM RGBKey(21102)   And yeah, I'd love to fund the exchange bot again
6:07 PM doog(113)       oh, the ws thing
6:07 PM RGBKey(21102)   Yeah
6:08 PM RGBKey(21102)   I'd love to fund it again, but I don't want to keep pushing ~$1,500 through an exchange so people can buy all my LTC again. Sure, I make a little in fees but the extra worry that someone's gonna come after me for taxes isn't worth it anymore. It's not something I considered when I was writing the bot
6:08 PM RGBKey(21102)   Which didn't take that long because I was able to modify @AM80675BOT's code to do it pretty easily