5:35 min
CH:  A few years back we discovered this new industrial material
It showed promise in a number of different ways
And it's a very unique industrial material
We want to use this  material in a number of different applications...
It was decided at an international level that we have to do certain things in order for this industrial material to be widely used in our industry
One of the things we had to do was to determine:  Is it unsafe?
The ..... science agency of the UN decided they needed to know what the LD (lethal dosage) of this stuff was
So they had a contract with a French lab
The head of the lab is a Frenchman of an Algerian descent
I bring that up because it forms the basis of how he does things
His culture puts an imprintation on how you [do things]
Eg science done by Hindus is different than science done by Algerians
They take different approaches....
The Algerian scientist decides because it's a contract, he's going to do a small sample study in high doses until he kills his rats
Basically he figures out what the lethal dosage is
So he takes 12 rats - 6 females, 6 males
Separates them out into 2 groups of 6 - 3 females, 3 males
One group's the control
They go over there and they live and just eat corn and drink water and stuff
The other ones get this industrial substance
The goal of the study was to see if we could take this industrial substance in a natural fashion and have it be lethal to us, as opposed to injecting it.
So they did not initially inject it into the flesh
So they give this industrial substance to these rats
They decided the way to do it is to get the rats to eat it
They dissolved it in olive oil
That turned out to be a hell of a task for them; to do that alone
.... The industrial substance is given to these rats on a pretty massive dose
Once a week for a couple of weeks
The Frenchman wanted to collect his money on finding out what the lethal dose is
He didn't want to waste years incrementally getting up there
That's why the Algerian aspect - the practicality of it - enters into it
Because .... he guess this amount would kill them pretty quick
Well, it didn't kill them
They were stuck at that dosage level because that's what they decided to go for
They decided OK, they'll use this dosage level, keep it up on a weekly basis and continue it over time
And it'll accumulate in the rats and it'll kill them
Then they can slice up the rats and find out where they died, establish the lethal dose and they're done
Well, time passes.  All the control rats die.
All the control rats have a 2 year life span....
This you can find out.  I'll tell you the substance and you can go validate everything I'm telling you
They give the rats these dosages and it doesn't kill them
Some time passes - you can look this up as to the amount of time
Finally, the Frenchman says, "Well, these rats aren't dying of this.  I've got this other contract to see what this lethal dose of radiation is. Let's take a couple of these rats and zap them with this radiation and we'll see what the lethal dose is and we'll be done with them and we'll also be able to cut them open and see what's going on with this industrial substance we're feeding them."
Well, radiation didn't kill them
The radiation was well over lethal dose
Rats were just sitting there, laughing it off.  They're happy
Bear in mind all of the rats have lived at least one third again as long as they should have
They were all into their 3rd year and all these rats are genetically programmed to die around 2 years
So the rats were going along.  They have good fur.  They looked young.
There's no problems with them
Finally, they start getting frustrated and they start euthanising the rats
Because they tried cancer causing chemicals to kill them off.....
They become really hardy
Finally, they ended up killing them
They killed these rats at very advanced ages for these rats, far beyond what they should live
When they opened them up, their brains are clean, their lungs are clean, their livers are gorgeous, their spleens are beautiful
They've got no problems whatsoever, in spite of all the radiation and all the cancer causing chemicals they've been fed to try and off them and see what is going on.

10:17
CH:  Whatever this substance is, it works on their system in such a way that it preserved their internal organs at a level that was youthful, in spite of the fact that the rats were aging
But the rats were not aging as normal
The amount of wear and tear they were showing was minimal
There was no hair discolouration; none of the skin issue; none of the systemic degradation that usually accompanies old age.
Basically, they had no idea when these rats would die if they just kept feeding them this regular diet of this substance dissolved in olive oil
So they do this and over the course of time, maybe the last rat was killed ...(you will have to look this up) at 6 years - 3 times as old as a rat should live.
And they just killed it because they had to know and they had to end the study and the guy had to get paid
So they could not determine a lethal dose that way.

11:13
Another group was commissioned to determine a lethal dose
These guys didn't mess around
They took some mice and they injected the substance in a water base directly into the mice at the level of 1/10th of their body weight
That killed them and it was an injection
It was intra-muscular but it killed them
So they knew that if you had 1/10th of your body weight of this material injected in you, that was a lethal dose.....
They couldn't say why it killed them
Then one of the doctors that was involved in the study said, "If you took the substance out of the water, just that much water being injected is going to kill you."
So this is where we're at on that
At this stage, this is not a substance for human consumption
Humans eat this substance constantly
We've been seeking this substance as long as humans have been around
It forms the basis of alchemy
Alchemy was seeking this substance which was the philosopher's stone, perpetual life, all of this kind of stuff
They've been seeking it all of these different ways
The Taoists have been seeking it.  The yogis are seeking it with boiling down mercury
This substance occurs naturally in the planet
It's concentrated in the planet in various different areas
We have only recently become aware of it


12:55
The substance is called C60, Carbon 60, Buckminsterfullerene, bucky balls
...... Carbon is an interesting stuff as it has many different forms
Most, like gold, has only one form in nature
We have Carbon 12, Carbon 14, Carbon 16, Carbon 18 etc
Carbon 60 is unique because it takes a carbon atom and folds it back on itself
So that all of the receptors from the carbon atom for connecting to other atoms are fully involved with their own molecule
Under those circumstances, there's no carbonic attachment to anything
So if you have a free carbon atom, it's not as reactive as an oxygen atom but it'll glob on to you because it has a highly energetic particle that wants to stick to something.
This form of carbon does not have that.
They don't know why it does what it does but they do know that it does do that
Humans can get hold of this stuff
You can buy it.
It's a readily available. .... C60 is readily available from Europe in a purified form
You can mix it to anything you want and consume it
It occurs naturally in coal
It occurs naturally in this thing called shungite
It occurs naturally in this other stuff called shilajit aka asphaltum
So it's been known about the time of ancient Rome
It goes all the way back into the yogic world maybe 6/7 thousand years
It was a necessary part of their revitalisation programs that people would undertake
That was really gruesome if you get into the yogic perspective of how they did it
But the goal was to concentrate this stuff
They didn't know it's C60
They just knew that animals that drank water from this particular water hole lived longer, looked better, didn't age as much
Turns out that that particular water hole was in a base of shungite material which is like this primal material of the earth
Huge levels of C60 in it
..... in the Himalayan mountains they would see goats and animals from the deep forest work their way all the way up the mountains to lick this black goo that was coming out from underneath these glaciers
This was all of the material that had been smushed by the glacier into a very thin layer of the biological material into a concentrated C60
That's been their form of it, coming from these different ways
Now we know it exists
Now we know what the molecule is
Now we can purify it out of coal and these other things
Now it's an industrial product which you can actually buy
You can even consume it if you want and get this effect

SW:  Mice die from free radical damage in a speedy way
Rat's the same
I can imagine it takes care of your radicals and things that attack our cells

16:13
CH:  That's how it's sold - as an antioxidant
But it does much more than that
It does interact with the telomeres
It does link to them

SW:  Does it lengthen the telomeres?

CH:  Yes....... That's your clock.
You start off with X number of them
Like the yogis say, "You are given X number of breaths and when you exhale that last breath ..... that's the end of your life.".....

SW:  Your cells can only duplicate so many number of times
Each time it duplicates, your telomere gets shorter.....
Bill Andrews .... has been working on telomeres....
He came on my show and talked about how they found the solution.
They have it but it's very expensive.......
Bill Andrews isagenix trials
If your telomeres are longer and your cells are younger.... can your cells deal with the free radical damage?
They don't know until they actually do it
They are doing a trail in Madagascar on lemurs
They have over1500 people signed up for the first trials
They are happening in the East but there's over $2m
It's really expensive.....

18:05
CH:  let's look at C60 and some of its ancillary effects
Not only does it mess about with the length of the cell degradation reproduction issue - the more you reproduce the cell, the floppier the copies become.
OK, it deals with that
It also deals with the antioxidant issue, the free radical issue, instantly
Because the nature of the bucky ball is such that the free radicals want to adhere to it and it's excreted
So it pulls these things right out of you
Also, the C60 molecule can cross the blood brain barrier
So it's pulling out toxins all throughout your entire system
Also, as a side effect, people - humans - and I'm in contact with a great number of these humans, through some French people I know
...... I can reach out to maybe 150 people that are self experimenting with this material and have had some number of years self experimenting with this material
Well, it's working in that it's providing positive benefits to them
Whether or not it's going to increase their age we don't know, because they haven't gone to an exceptional life span yet.
.... If you read about the Frenchman and the trial of the rats and stuff - that's only a few years back
So we've only known about this for a few years
I don't think we've even crossed 20 years yet

19:30
SW:  Are any of them older?

CH:  Yes.  We have people who are in their 80s
.... It's not instant.  It takes a while
It is a reverse aging, not an anti-aging
So slowly, slowly, it cleans up the free radical damage and does your skin the next time those cells reproduce,  don't recreate that wrinkle
It removes these issues
It affects the internal organs
It creates new veins, hyper-oxygenates your body
It hyper-oxygenates you down to the level of the mitochondria within the cells, but without the free radical damage
So it's not only hyper-oxygenating you, it's doing so without doing the expected damage of all the oxygen

20:30
SW:  The form you are talking about - can you buy it?
Is that the form you need or is that a different form?

CH:  ......... You don't know what they have to go through to create this stuff

SW:  I want to buy some for my parents....

CH:  You got to understand this.  You got to be very careful about this because this process is not gentle
Anybody that takes this stuff - you will go through detox
Now you could take tiny little bits and build up over time so that the detox is low level and continuous.....
We get different reports of different effects
...... people who are extremely weak - a woman I know of that has had surgeries for brain cancers, had 3/4 surgeries for heart, has had 5/6 death experiences - her heart had stopped
She's taking it with very good results, in spite of the detox
The detox is mainly gastrointestinal

SW:  This is awful. I've had a pretty hard detox before and felt like crap

CH:  Let's be real clear about this
This is a little bit more than that
This is not simply a purge

SW:  They are older and don't really want to detox

CH:  You may want to really think about this
You got to be an adult with this substance
It is not approved by anybody for human consumption
It is an industrial material
People will sell this to you as an industrial material in an oil base
What you do with it is your business
Here's some things to be advised
Originally they did it with olive oil
The C60, in my opinion, works by being combinoric or magnifying other things
So if you are taking a drug of some kind, it may magnify that or it may magnify your body so that the drug is no longer effective
We've seen both of these being reported by people who were in those circumstances
So C60 is not particularly gentle
It's hot really harsh
You are not going to be vomiting or anything like that for days, or anything like that
But because it's combinoric, I don't favour putting it in with olive oil because olive oil has its own impacts towards detoxing the gut and I don't think that is necessarily beneficial for most humans

23:03
The guy I favour... he makes it and puts it in avocado oil or coconut
In both cases, they're going to be a lot more gentle on you because they're  (the coconut less so) not themselves detoxing agents the way olive oil is
Say the recommended dosage is a tablespoon a day
If you take a tablespoon a day of straight olive oil, you'll feel it in your liver even without the C60 involved
So you just have to be very cognizant of it
It's not like it's a panacea
It's not like it's an anti-aging pill or any of that
It is as though you got to be taking it for a long time if you're to obtain any anti-aging benefits in terms of lengthening your life span
.... There's a difference between life span and life space
What appears to occur here is that our life space is increased
And then if your body is up to it, you can have a longer life span within that life space....

SW:  It's like your coil is lengthened [inaudible]

CH:  Correct.  It restores all of those.  It's harmonious to you.
Once you are in the groove of it and it might take some people a year, for other people it may only be a month
I would not advise taking this if I were a young person
It's not going to do anything for you until you're actually experiencing those effects

[SW interrupts to talk about something in the East]

25 mins
CH:  Here is the good part of it
If you were to go to PurplePower - it's called C60PurplePower online
That's the guy who sells it in avocado oil and coconut oil
...... it make the oil purple coloured
The poor fellow may not be able to keep up with it
It takes days for this stuff to dissolve ....
You have to back off his case if you order from him and let him make this stuff because he's got to gear up for it
They have to do those little electric spinners that spin in a vat of oil to dissolve the stuff for days
.... He's in the US.  He's selling an industrial lubricant
C60 in coconut oil or olive oil [avocado oil?] is sold as an industrial lubricant
If you were to take the olive oil [I think he means avocado oil] or the coconut oil, you will feel better
And you'll feel more energy because the oil that's provided is a good fat for your system and because, in my opinion, the C60 is providing a combinoric benefit that is helping to purge out your liver and your gut bile
This is why it needs to be in a book and you need to have all these cautions
It's better to take the C60 with dairy products than not, if you are not lactose intolerant
It's better to take the C60 with raw milk kefir than commercial yoghurt
There's all these sort of things you learn as you go along that make it easier on your system
Say that you are 80 and you want to get the benefit of this
If indeed this is going to double your life span, (and there's no reason to suspect you have to get it by a particular age in order to have that occur), then you are going to have to go through maybe 2 decades of a continual low level of detox in order to reach that 160 years

SW:  .... until every cell .. has changed around

CH:  Correct.... It takes 7 years for your bones alone
So for 7 years, your bones are going to detox all the crap they have picked up
Get rid of all the radiation, all of the pollution and all this kind of stuff that gets in your bones
We can sample bones now and say, "Hey look!  This guy was exposed to a nuclear radiation test at some point in his life and his bones show that."
So we do have those issues
It's not like a pill
You got to be adult about it
You got to know what you are doing
You got to look at it as a decades long process

SW:  We are at the beginning of anti-aging

CH:  Correct.....

SW: ..... If we can live to ... 300
Why can't we live forever?
There's no reason why we have to die of old age

CH:  There actually is .....
You have to consider it relative to consciousness and memory

SW:  When you look at more science from a  different perspective

CH: .... from your body, they are correct
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31:50
CH:  Research by Russians because that's where shungite is found any more - Siberia
You can buy shungite rocks and you can do this in Russia
They do it in Germany.
When I got to Germany, I saw this going on all the time
This is back in the days when they still had honey wagons collecting human waste to put on the fields
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_wagon
Honey wagon is a wagon which carries human excreta]
So it was before Germany was re-built into the modern age
You would see some of the old farmers we lived nearby - the women would ... take the black rocks out of the crock and wash the rocks off and put new water in there and then they drank water out of the crock all week long.
It was shungite and .... it made them healthy

SW:  It must have been passed down.....

CH:  Correct. Shamans and the alchemists have been working on this for a long time...
We have the records on it.....


36:35
CH:  There's documents now about C60 and rebuilding liver tissue

36:45
It has weird effects....
One guy is complaining that he has 2 eyebrow hairs that he has to cut every day, at least an inch off....
He can pluck them out.  The reason he has two is because he had one and he plucked it out and two grew.
He's not going to pluck it out again
He cuts an inch off every day
Other people, it's toe nails
They got to trim their toe nails every two days because of the exceptional growth
Other people, it's veins
New veins are just growing all throughout your body because it's oxygenating and building everything
Here are some of the other side effects
If you are taking this stuff and you are involved in an accident or you have to get even a routine blood draw, the phlebotomist might freak out
Because they will draw veinal blood that will look like arterial
Because it would be so oxygenated
It will be so red, they'd think they hit an artery
This has occurred numerous times.....
It's become a sort of a story:  "Oh I had my phlebotomist encounter" is what some of these people will say
Bear in mind I lose a lot in translation
A lot of it is in French... and Russian and German because these are the primary researchers in it
The primary self researchers
The French seem to have been in it longer than anyone else, except for the Russians
The Russians .... come at it from their shungite approach as opposed to the inductrial comp[ound approach
They had a longer history of it...
Now you are starting to see shungite come out in all kinds of forms
People are saying, "You wear the medallion and it helps you out."
It may help you out as the C60 in there absorbs energy like electromagnetic stuff, but it's not going to do you anything...
It's not the same

38:40
... taking it in water is not the same as taking it in oil because it's not taken into the liver
It may have been a happy accident or universe saying we need to know about this, let's tell the Frenchman to use oil... as opposed to making them drink it
You wouldn't believe what they got to go through to get this stuff to be in a suspension in oil