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  1. https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2018/11/27/doctrine-remains-problem-in-relations-sspx-affirms-after-vatican-meeting/
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  3. >sspx says main thing keeping them away is DOCTRINE (so not just schismatics, but heretics)
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  5. https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/cdl-burke-sspx-in-schism
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  7. >Cardinal Burke, most respected traditional cardinal and spent time as the highest canon lawyer on earth, says sspx are in schism
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  9. http://wdtprs.com/blog/2008/07/guest-contribution-qa-with-the-pont-comm-ecclesia-dei-about-sspx-schism-and-sacraments/
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  11. >official Ecclesia Dei document answering if they are in schism basically says they might be but we won't say so because it wouldn't be ecumenical
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  13. (if they weren't in schism it would be ecumenical to say so. THE ONLY REASON for them not to say is if they are in schism.)
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  15. http://papastronsay.com/OfficialDocuments/canonical.pdf
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  17. >SSPX associated groups rejoining say they are ending their SCHISM in official vatican documents, have seen multiple but this is the only one I remember off the top of my head
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  19. again coming into "full communion with the Church" and being regularized is ENDING SCHISM according to the official documents of it actually happening, not just hypotheticals schismatics invent.
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  21. and I'll end with the classic
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  23. >“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
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  25. If you do not submit to the Pope, you are NOT Catholic, it's that easy. They have separated themselves from the Body of Christ and will only damn themselves to hell.
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  27. I will again for emphasis repost the offical statement from the ecclesia dei
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  29. >“Statements made by Cardinal Castrillón need to be understood in a technical, canonical sense. Stating that the Society of St. Pius X “is not in formal schism” is to say that there has been no official declaration on the part of the Holy See that the Society of St. Pius X is in schism. Up to now, the Church has sought to show the maximum charity, courtesy and consideration to all those involved with the hope that such a declaration will not eventually be necessary.
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  31. WHY would they hesitate to make that decision, unless the decision would be "unecunemical" ie they are in schism?
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  33. This ONLY makes sense if they are actually in schism. There is literally NO way to reasonably interpret the available information without inventing some false idea of "partial communion" because you don't want to be mean to schismatics sending people to hell. The people buying into the sspx being fine are pushing the same ecunemical tripe that they often claim to hate.
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  35. Again in that document, it says people who attend sspx chapels have to avoid developing a "schismatic mentality"
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  37. How do you get a schismatic mentality from people who aren't schismatics? Can you become an arian by listening to an orthodox priest? If listening to and participating in the SSPX community might turn you into a schismatic then it's obvious SSPX are schismatics and are pushing others to schism.
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  39. Like this isn't at all complicated, the higher ups are being nice and ecumenical I honestly have no idea how anyone who has looked into this at all falls for this.
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  41. SSPX are schismatics and sending people to hell, no Catholic should expose themselves to anyone who associates with them.
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  43. this includes
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  45. >fatima center
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  47. >the remnant
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  49. >angelus press
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  51. and anyone else who seems to defend them
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  53. again with extra emphasis with an ex cathedra statement
  54. We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
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  56. If you do not submit to the Pope (and not implicitly or in some vauge way, but ACTUAL submission).
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  58. You are not a Catholic. You can not claim to be a Catholic. You will go to hell unless you repent.
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  60. There is no gray area, sspx and schismatics cannot be tolerated nor anyone who apologizes for people damning so many souls to hell.
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  62. He shall also judge those who give rise to schisms, who are destitute of the love of God, and who look to their own special advantage rather than to the unity of the Church; and who for trifling reasons, or any kind of reason which occurs to them, cut in pieces and divide the great and glorious body of Christ, and so far as in them lies, [positively] destroy it — men who prate of peace while they give rise to war, and do in truth strain out a gnat, but swallow a camel. Matthew 23:24 For no reformation of so great importance can be effected by them, as will compensate for the mischief arising from their schism. He shall also judge all those who are beyond the pale of the truth, that is, who are outside the Church; but he himself shall be judged by no one.
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  64. SSPX will not lead to anything good
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  66. SSPX have not led to anything good
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  68. anything the SSPX produces will not lead anything good
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  70. nothing of significance will be accomplished by them
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  72. they cannot and will not ever effect any reformation of any significance
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  74. ALL the sspx and ALL any schismatic can ever accomplish is misleading souls and damning them to hell, most particularly their defenders will be punished.
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  76. If there is even the possibility of schism you should flee as from hell fire, with a group as clearly schismatic as the SSPX who so openly are disobedient there can be no justification for having anything to do with them in any way. Defending them in scandal, posting any of their resources is scandal, doing anything in their defense whatsoever is scandal. It is only a good way to be damned along with those around you.
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