AAC3 R1A - Soden vs Ama Tad Judgement

####Ama 1:

* Shang & batman knock people through stone. Soden's team are glass cannons.

* Shang & Batman bullet time. Team Soden is slow.

* Shang blocks bullets with adamantium staff. Batman has really good kevlar.

* Howitzer statement for Nagant is not accurate to the original line. Nagant bullets lodge in glass w/out penetrating.

* Batman has various esoteric gadgets that could oneshot.

* Team Ama has superior mobility & scouting. Batman has X-Ray vision & a fast car.

* Team Ama have really good stealth. This + distance thwarts the ability of Team Soden to press range.

* Batman can evade gunfire from crackhead marksmen. Shang is also evasive. Both have winning matchups against snipers firing from blindspots.

* Batman has smoke bombs. Nagant was defeated by a smokescreen.

* The Batmobile is heavily armoured against gunfire, rams through concrete, armed with missiles.

*  Map is generally full of exploitable cover that team Ama are well equipped to exploit.

####Soden 1:

* Concedes Ama's picks one shot his.

* Nagant has a range of 3km and can fly. The Batmobile engine immediately gives away their position.

* Nagant can rapid fire.

* Nagant's bullets overpenetrate several skulls. Enough stopping power to halt Deku's momentum where Deku charges through building floors.

* Tagging Deku makes nagant fast. Scaling to a man outrunning his own voice?

Seems kinda like a gag to me.

* Batman & Shang move slower than Deku, and will get tagged.

* Nagant's bullets are really fast---shoots Shiggy from far distance before he moves his hand few feet.

* Twice spawns clones of his teammates. Bricks who punch holes in concrete and punch as fast as bullets. AOE pyrokinetics against whom Batman's extinguishers aren't enough. Can even create a clone of Nagant.

####Ama 2:

* Nagant still won't be tagging Ama's team for reasons stated in R1.

* Reiterating, Shang & Bruce have winning matchups vs snipers.

* Batman can knock her out of air w/ batarang.

* Batmobile ejector seat can even boost them up to Nagant's level to attack her in melee.

* Flying opponents are not an out of context problem for team Ama.

* Deku predicts Nagant's firing pattern. Shang and Batman are really good at doing this.

* Reiterating: smoke pellets block Nagant's aim.

* Batmobile is autonomous. Can serve as decoy, or straight up attack her.

* Deku swinging on a rope =/= Deku launching himself in a tackle.

* Manga speedlines aren't a sonic boom. Deku relies on windup & centrifugal force to reach mach speeds.

* Torino scaling doesn't work. Was only transonic until later powerup.

* Deku bullet feats are bad. Him getting overwhelmed by curved bullets (slower than straight line bullets) is evidence enough he's slow.

* Reiterating Nagant's bullets can't pierce team Ama. Batman scales above Deathstroke piercing superman, wtf??

I think intuitively this scaling is wonky as hell but you really don't need it given sufficient "is bulletproof" citations.

* Nagant shoots first and then Shiggy starts moving. Isn't intercepting. Even if interp was real, Batman avoids an even faster bullet.

* Nagant making her bullets fast makes her gun jam.

* Twice clones are too slow to matter. Rappa crater takes multiple punches to perform, "bullet punch" is a cool technique name not "fast as bullet." Dabi takes a full second to burn someone to death. Batman covers him with snuff powder. One pellet floods a skyscraper.

* Shang and Batman are heat resistant anyway, more room for error. Dabi can't take meaningful action within 3 seconds.

* Shang has mystic kung fu senses, could tell the clones were fake and know not to fall for goose chase.

* Clones get progressively weaker. Diminishing returns.

* Clones are super fragile---breaking an arm is fatal.

* Can't clone Nagant. Doesn't have time to measure her.

* Reiterating smoke. Shang and Batman can fight in it fine but none of Soden's picks can cope.

* Team Ama uses superior mobility to get wherever they want to, locks down fight, and cleans up at close-mid range.

####Soden 2:

* Nagant > normal snipers. Deadshot shoots like an idiot?

He seems to be shooting pretty normally to me.

* Nagant does trick corveshots around entire buildings. Is better than a guy who can automatically hit things as his power.

In the scan, Snipe lays out that his power's range is limited and that's what makes Nagant better.

* More manga speedline art. "Deku moves faster than his own soundwaves."

* Batman would not launch himself out of the ejector seat at Nagant IC.

* A helicopter and manbat are not comparable to Nagant's flight.

How fast is she?

* Takes Deku a long time to figure out how to plot her trajectories.

* Deku is exerting as much force as the building tackle trying to stop the bullet because he's gripping it (?)

* More Deku scaling.

* Twices clone's are more fragile with every iteration, not less powerful.

* Comparable hits to Rappa stun Batman/Shang

* Rappa can rotate his arm to escape being contained (?)

* Blue flame is hotter than reentry heat. The flame retardant doesn't have any listed feats other than ordinary flame.

* Twice clones are identical to the originals to the point even Twice can't tell himself apart from them.

####Results:

**Things I buy:**

* Shang & Batman are fast enough to evade Nagant, and between Batman's kevlar and the batmobile's armour they are unlikely to be taken down by single shots even if they land.

* Dabi clones are meaningfully threatening obstacles. It doesn't matter that they are slow because that's a lot of fire. The retardant may or may not work on it. Batman is better protected than Shang, but probably still vulnerable---in reentry scan Ama posted it still seems like a struggle and Bruce talks about the O2 mouth part of the mask not being heat resistant enough.

* Subsequent clones get more fragile, not weaker.

* All of Shang/Batman's options could oneshot either opponent. The endurance gif of Nagant getting off a final shot while bleeding out tells me she could maybe fight through being stabbed with a batarang, but most of the ranged gadgets Ama showcased focused on immobilising her somehow, and she lacks lifting strength.

**Things I don't buy:**

* Rappa is not a meaningful threat. It takes many hits to make a crater comparable to what Batman/Shang walk off in fights and he is slow as shit.

* That superman brown dwarf scaling is whack. It doesn't matter because Ama posted more believable feats and it was never challenged, but it's still whack.

* Batman probably isn't gonna use the ejector seat to get to Nagant.

**Ama wins**

With only one fourth of Team Soden's team posing probable threat with their offence, Ama's picks stand a far better chance with their superior physicals, mobility through the bat car, and ability to scan the area using X-Ray / chi sensing.

If I had any advice to soden it's to not get so bogged down in scaling chains and focus on what you can show us with our eyes. Your most compelling argument to me was the comparison of blue flame to the reentry feat rather than when you were going in circles about Deku scaling.