poor durza~

[21:25:33] jklioe: do you feel that anyone in particular can be discussed for voice atm?
[21:25:44] Aleccat: not as far as i know
[21:26:08] jklioe: i was thinking about graceclaw but idk how helpufl he really is tho
[21:26:14] Aleccat: i'm resigning soon again so i shouldn't be the one ur asking
[21:26:24] Aleccat: i really like graceclaw but inactivity is an issue
[21:26:44] jklioe: oh, right. are you still gonna be involved in VR?
[21:26:50] Aleccat: vr?
[21:27:03] jklioe: contributing to viablity rankings, yeah
[21:27:15] Aleccat: maybe a post here or there i'm quitting qc team also
[21:27:18] Aleccat: sorry
[21:27:19] Aleccat: not qc
[21:27:21] Aleccat: workshop
[21:27:22] Aleccat: *
[21:27:26] jklioe: rip
[21:27:55] jklioe: but yeah, this staff stuff is whack
[21:32:55] Aleccat: tbh like
[21:33:00] Aleccat: i'm not going to do pastebins
[21:33:06] Aleccat: it was good venting though
[21:33:08] Aleccat: still calling out kala
[21:33:10] Aleccat: tho
[21:33:54] jklioe: can i ask you a favor?
[21:34:01] Aleccat: ye?
[21:34:10] jklioe: please don't talk to durza anymore tbh
[21:34:16] Aleccat: y?
[21:34:22] jklioe: his "fake" ways just won't change, apparently
[21:34:29] Aleccat: y what happen
[21:35:04] Aleccat: ?
[21:35:07] jklioe: like i've been hearing that ppl he has backstabbed very recently have been offput about how he continuously tries to be buddy-buddy with them as if nothing happened
[21:35:26] jklioe: diag, and ironically also even aaron are victims of this
[21:35:45] jklioe: i honestly feel bad for diag in this situation
[21:35:47] jklioe: but oh well
[21:35:49] Aleccat: that's actually sad
[21:36:23] jklioe: since diag went out his way to push for the status that he has in zu, only to backstab him after he got what he wanted out of him
[21:36:32] jklioe: but yeah some sensitive logs came up
[21:36:38] Aleccat: with who
[21:36:40] Aleccat: u?
[21:36:51] jklioe: of durza doing all of this basically
[21:37:25] Aleccat: isn't this what he accused u of doing
[21:37:35] jklioe: ironic, huh?
[21:37:40] jklioe: also he has no proof LOL
[21:37:58] Aleccat: f
[21:38:42] jklioe: but yeah, honestly idk where to really go from here
[21:38:52] Aleccat: jklioe i'm not trying to be mean or invalidate ur opinion
[21:39:07] Aleccat: i know u and durza are beefing but i am not sure how this is founded or if this is rumors
[21:39:19] Aleccat: designed to split us up
[21:39:29] jklioe: well i can't go into detail without leaking sensitive stuff, as i said
[21:39:47] Aleccat: how r u sure things were not jokes
[21:39:51] Aleccat: durza likes to joke
[21:40:06] jklioe: you coud literally ask diag and froasty their opinion on him and they'll probably just tell you
[21:40:26] jklioe: it's obv that how you're responding basically indicates how much you've been manipulated by him
[21:40:33] jklioe: but i have no reason to lie about this lol
[21:40:38] Aleccat: well froasty and him have beefed for a long time afaik
[21:41:42] jklioe: i'm not someone who goes off of pure suspicion when i decide someone's trustworthy. I go off of factual info presented that reveals that behavior straight up
[21:41:54] jklioe: *untrustworthy
[21:42:42] Aleccat: how do u mean
[21:43:02] jklioe: how else? it should be pretty cut and dry what i mean
[21:43:42] Aleccat: " I go off of factual info presented that reveals that behavior straight up"
[21:43:48] Aleccat: what facts
[21:44:29] jklioe: like i said i was given a ton of pbin logs from literally themhow he was acting in private chats
[21:44:42] Aleccat: oh
[21:46:42] jklioe: i'm not trying to turn you against him out of spite, to be clear
[21:46:56] Aleccat: well has he said anything about me?
[21:47:02] Aleccat: what would he even use me for i'm driver
[21:47:07] Aleccat: i'm not in a position of power
[21:47:58] jklioe: honeslty, it's just for your own good, but at the end you can do as you please. and he had badmouthed you in the mod and up chat during that time when aaron warned you
[21:48:02] jklioe: and demotion was discussed
[21:48:34] Aleccat: and he discussed with me about it?
[21:48:36] Aleccat: like
[21:48:37] Aleccat: about me
[21:48:38] Aleccat: *
[21:48:47] jklioe: has he?
[21:48:48] Aleccat: BUT then i asked him
[21:49:16] jklioe: how did that go exactly? all you said is that you spoke to him
[21:49:29] Aleccat: he said he was my friend
[21:49:48] jklioe: it would appear so on the surface
[21:50:05] Aleccat: well it's fine bc i'm going to be not driver soon
[21:50:11] Aleccat: right?
[21:50:21] Aleccat: i mean they can't demote me if i self demote
[21:50:21] jklioe: right on what?
[21:50:32] jklioe: i didn't know you could do that o.o
[21:51:09] Aleccat: well like
[21:51:11] Aleccat: what else
[21:51:52] jklioe: and then telling kala that he wouldn't mind u being demoted at that time too, lol
[21:52:04] Aleccat: oh he said that?
[21:52:39] jklioe: when it was discussed, that's what was mentioned. obv this was kept in RO chat, ii was just told by one of them
[21:52:48] Aleccat: can i have receipts of just that?
[21:53:08] Aleccat: nothing else
[21:53:10] Aleccat: just thatr
[21:53:18] Aleccat: him discussing me getting demoted
[21:53:25] Aleccat: with kala
[21:54:01] Aleccat: ?
[21:54:05] jklioe: i wasn't given logs of that instance, it was just what i was told in the past
[21:54:15] Aleccat: ok but could u get them?
[21:54:18] Aleccat: this is srs
[21:54:34] jklioe: i basically just took the word of the source esp given the many other instances where he snaked on his friends
[21:54:42] Aleccat: ok but what source
[21:54:51] Aleccat: bc a lot of sources are fake
[21:55:33] jklioe: i doubt one would go out their way to fake a large amount of info like that...
[21:55:46] jklioe: and tbh it was in combination of a lot of other logs of the shit he did
[21:55:53] Aleccat: jklioe this seems like jealousy again bc it has no basis
[21:55:56] Aleccat: there's no evidence
[21:56:01] jklioe: idk if i trust u to keep all of that to yourself tbh
[21:56:10] Aleccat: ok but like
[21:56:12] jklioe: since it's stuff about me, stuff about diag, stuff about you
[21:56:18] Aleccat: oh so it was diag
[21:56:18] Aleccat: okay
[21:56:23] Aleccat: reliable
[21:56:25] jklioe: and froasty
[21:57:23] jklioe: i honestly don't care if you don't believe me, i just probably won't talk to you if you talk to him again since i'd assme he'll just ask to dig up things to you about me like he tried to others i talk to
[21:57:42] Aleccat: i confronted him i'm done with him
[21:58:07] jklioe: ok
[21:58:14] Aleccat: i didn't expose u
[21:58:15] Aleccat: btw
[21:58:56] jklioe: very well. anyway this is the last time i'll talk about this, sorry about bringing up drama
[21:59:05] Aleccat: it's fine
[21:59:11] Aleccat: i appreciate u looking out for me
[21:59:45] jklioe: its not something that i expected that i had to do, but he still is apparently out to try to expose me for any little thing he can get out of me. i'm getting tired of him trying to turn others against me when i've done nothing to him
[22:00:08] Aleccat: yeah tbh
[22:00:14] Aleccat: he's gross
[22:01:00] jklioe: he literally tried to bring me up for demotion from council via inactivity, only to get utterly laughed at
[22:03:35] Aleccat: f
[22:04:11] jklioe: yreah, ridiculous
[22:04:33] jklioe: but yeah, that's all really. this stays between us ofc
[22:04:38] Aleccat: yeah
[22:04:39] Aleccat: duh
[22:10:05] jklioe: also, idk why ppl keep wanting to unban stuff lol
[22:10:31] Aleccat: like?
[22:10:33] Aleccat: the gau thing?
[22:10:45] jklioe: zubl stuff basically
[22:10:48] Aleccat: righty
[22:10:52] Aleccat: they are stupid
[22:10:57] Aleccat: they have no points
[22:10:58] Aleccat: if anything
[22:11:00] Aleccat: komala suspect
[22:11:01] jklioe: LOL
[22:11:03] Aleccat: should be on the table