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  1. @HoeenHero: ~ws new
  2. @BB-8-NU: A new workshop session was created
  3. Earlio2: We could have Scyther as our scarfer
  4. yMustay: yes we need removal anyway
  5. yMustay: because tspikes literally rape us
  6. +Twix: okay but like
  7. +Twix: we have 1 mon so far
  8. @lakeredman: Komala, anyone?
  9. +Rwby o_o: You should be able to add things with ~ws add and remove with ~ws remove broken phobias
  10. +Twix: don't get to far ahead
  11. Earlio2: We're fine on tspikes
  12. Earlio2: with Muk
  13. +Rwby o_o: And voices can use ~ws team
  14. Earlio2: if thats our viv counter
  15. +B3KS3L: Broken Phobias see the actual team regular time
  16. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add Leafeon, Hariyama, Regirock
  17. @BB-8-NU: Leafeon, Hariyama, Regirock added
  18. +Twix: okay so
  19. +Twix: Gallade beats everything
  20. +B3KS3L: why whe have haryama?
  21. +Rwby o_o: I wouldn't recommend adding them together
  22. Earlio2: Sableye could work
  23. +B3KS3L: whan whe have regi?
  24. +Rwby o_o: It bugs it out sometimes
  25. yMustay: gallade doesn't beat leafeon
  26. #Broken Phobias: okay thanks RWBY
  27. Earlio2: but that would kill our momentum
  28. +Twix: leaf can't switch in
  29. yMustay: yes
  30. #Broken Phobias: I'd say Weezing
  31. yMustay: absol is also and issue even with yama
  32. #Broken Phobias: err no
  33. +Twix: I feel like we should start back with just Leafeon
  34. Earlio2: Yeah
  35. +Twix: we kinda rushed into it
  36. yMustay: play rough absol is running around Broken Phobias
  37. +B3KS3L: Hariyama dont fit on the team
  38. +B3KS3L: because
  39. +B3KS3L: whe have regi for fire
  40. Earlio2: We could do LO hitmonchan for hazards and absol
  41. #Broken Phobias: ~ws remove regirock
  42. @BB-8-NU: regirock is not in the team
  43. +Twix: ha
  44. +B3KS3L: rip
  45. #Broken Phobias: ~ws Remove Hariyama
  46. @BB-8-NU: Unrecognized command: Remove Hariyama
  47. +Twix: you can't use caps
  48. #Broken Phobias: ~ws remove Hariyama
  49. @BB-8-NU: Hariyama is not in the team
  50. @lakeredman: Regi also covers ice.
  51. #Broken Phobias: ~ws remove hariyama
  52. @BB-8-NU: hariyama is not in the team
  53. +Twix: phobias just reset it
  54. yMustay: damn this the most ghetto workshop
  55. #Broken Phobias: ~ws reset
  56. @BB-8-NU: Unrecognized command: reset
  57. +Twix: ~workshop clear
  58. @BB-8-NU: Only the workshop host or a Room Moderator can clear the team
  59. #Broken Phobias: ~ws clear
  60. @BB-8-NU: team cleared
  61. Earlio2: lol
  62. #Broken Phobias: I'm still learning
  63. +Rwby o_o: Do one at a time
  64. +Twix: https://github.com/QuiteQuiet/PokemonShowdownBot/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
  65. #Broken Phobias: thanks Twix
  66. +Twix: control f to "ws"
  67. +B3KS3L: Leafeon weakness versus scyther/zard/skuntank/togetic so regi fit very well
  68. +Twix: Rwby o_o does this thing have kunc
  69. +Rwby o_o: No
  70. +Twix: sigh
  71. +Rwby o_o: Qq doesn't like kunc
  72. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add leafeon
  73. @BB-8-NU: leafeon added
  74. +Twix: yeah i think
  75. +Twix: regirock is a solid fit
  76. #Broken Phobias: Me too
  77. #Broken Phobias: Especially on BO
  78. +B3KS3L: Y
  79. Earlio2: I like regirock
  80. @lakeredman: Regirock rocks.
  81. +Twix: then we need a switchin to gallade
  82. Earlio2: -1
  83. @lakeredman: Get it?
  84. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add regirock
  85. @BB-8-NU: regirock added
  86. Earlio2: We could run sableye but rip any momentum
  87. +Twix: i kinda like the idea
  88. yMustay: drop a musharna on it
  89. +B3KS3L: One of my favorite core in bulky offenbse is grandbull+regi+skuntank
  90. +Twix: of Granbull
  91. +B3KS3L: whe put pressure
  92. yMustay: granbull is nice
  93. @lakeredman: Altaria could work.
  94. #Broken Phobias: Oh Twix
  95. +B3KS3L: and check many mon
  96. #Broken Phobias: that is lit
  97. yMustay: forget musharna
  98. yMustay: granbull also gives us heal bell
  99. #Broken Phobias: Z Heal bell roar imo
  100. yMustay: and t wave support
  101. yMustay: and an absol answer
  102. +Twix: z roar boosts defense
  103. yMustay: its litty
  104. Earlio2: like it
  105. +Twix: best fighting check in the game
  106. @lakeredman: Yeah, lets go with that.
  107. #Broken Phobias: ight
  108. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add granbull
  109. @BB-8-NU: granbull added
  110. Earlio2: so we have leafeon, regirock, and granbull
  111. +Twix: now how do we deal with musharna and viv
  112. Earlio2: we still lose to viv
  113. Earlio2: OH
  114. Earlio2: Do I have the counter to those two
  115. +B3KS3L: !dt heal bell
  116. +B3KS3L: oh
  117. +B3KS3L: full hp
  118. Earlio2: Wormadam Trash bb
  119. +B3KS3L: nice
  120. yMustay: lol
  121. +B3KS3L: Just need a rk for vivi Earlio2
  122. #Broken Phobias: I was just thinking Wormadam Trash lmao
  123. +B3KS3L: and regi check it
  124. yMustay: regi takes a milli from energy ball
  125. +B3KS3L: no
  126. #Broken Phobias: we could use
  127. +B3KS3L: only 45/55% at +1
  128. Earlio2: The set is rocks/gyro/toxic/protect
  129. #Broken Phobias: Sap Sipper Zeb
  130. @lakeredman: If we really need a check for viv, mag with assualt vest could work.
  131. Earlio2: max HP/spdef
  132. yMustay: regi gets slept too
  133. Earlio2: hard walls musharna
  134. +B3KS3L: +1 252 SpA Vivillon Energy Ball vs. 248 HP / 140 SpD Regirock: 200-236 (55 - 65%)
  135. Earlio2: and can't be slept
  136. @lakeredman: And vital spirit
  137. #Broken Phobias: Oh I like Mag with AV because it has good synergy with Leaf
  138. +Twix: hm
  139. yMustay: yes please
  140. yMustay: we could do a FWG
  141. +Twix: Bouffalant could be interesting
  142. yMustay: surely even AV bouff takes a hundo from ssss
  143. @lakeredman: Hmm...
  144. +B3KS3L: Wordaman is noit very good in bulky offense*
  145. +B3KS3L: dont put pressure
  146. +Twix: I swear
  147. #Broken Phobias: Bouf seems like a nice throwback
  148. yMustay: +1 252 SpA Vivillon Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Assault Vest Bouffalant: 243-286 (61.8 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  149. #Broken Phobias: but I think
  150. Earlio2: ouch
  151. @lakeredman: Mag honestly seems better.
  152. yMustay: I like mag
  153. #Broken Phobias: yea
  154. #Broken Phobias: Mag is more reliable
  155. Earlio2: Magmortar is the way to go, sadly
  156. yMustay: +1 252 SpA Vivillon Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 64 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Magmortar: 246-289 (80.1 - 94.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  157. #Broken Phobias: I know lol
  158. Earlio2: rip sweet baby wormadam
  159. @lakeredman: We need a hazard remover.
  160. yMustay: viv is broke
  161. +Twix: !dt komala
  162. yMustay: magmortar is no viv answer
  163. yMustay: it dies after rocks
  164. #Broken Phobias: yea tbh
  165. +Twix: rapid spins on sableye
  166. +Twix: and checks viv
  167. @lakeredman: Twix, you read my mind.
  168. yMustay: +1 252 SpA Vivillon Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Komala: 246-289 (73.6 - 86.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  169. Earlio2: AV komala is pretty good
  170. yMustay: my niggas ban this mon
  171. Earlio2: still losses to SSSS
  172. +Twix: i mean
  173. +Twix: how much does sucker punch do
  174. yMustay: 252+ Atk Komala Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Vivillon: 134-158 (44.5 - 52.4%) -- 20.7% chance to 2HKO
  175. #Broken Phobias: wait why are we running AV komala
  176. yMustay: nada
  177. +B3KS3L: just have regi+ rk fit on bulky offense
  178. +Twix: just an idea phobias
  179. #Broken Phobias: no no AV Komala
  180. +Twix: also
  181. +Twix: a mon i was trying out that's pretty cool
  182. #Broken Phobias: run Wish Tech Spin PLay
  183. +Twix: !dt safety goggles
  184. +Twix: !dt lycanroc
  185. +B3KS3L: can play that on regi too
  186. @lakeredman: Lycanroc is too frail.
  187. Earlio2: you want to know what doesn't lose to viv? Wormadam trash baby (protect bait SSSS)
  188. +B3KS3L: for check more retaliate viv
  189. Earlio2: shitposting aside
  190. +Rwby o_o: Pom with goggles counters viv
  191. Earlio2: lycanroc won't do much against anything that isnt vivillon
  192. yMustay: tbh we need something that's faster than +1 viv
  193. #Broken Phobias: ~ws team
  194. +Twix: oh i like that
  195. @BB-8-NU: leafeon / regirock / granbull
  196. yMustay: and just accept that it gets a kill
  197. Earlio2: We could run scyther
  198. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add magmortar
  199. @BB-8-NU: magmortar added
  200. @lakeredman: Scarf pom could work.
  201. +Twix: Calm Mind Safety Goggles Oricori
  202. yMustay: scarf scyther imo
  203. #Broken Phobias: did we all agree on Komlala?
  204. Earlio2: scarf scyther alongside komala?
  205. Earlio2: counters viv pretty handily with some prediction
  206. @lakeredman: Scarf pom can pivot, and checks viv pretty nicely.
  207. yMustay: 252 SpA Oricorio-Electric Revelation Dance vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Vivillon: 278-330 (92.3 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
  208. yMustay: its nice
  209. +Twix: how much does
  210. +Twix: +1 SSSS do to it
  211. yMustay: +1 252 SpA Vivillon Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Electric: 236-278 (81 - 95.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  212. +Twix: eek
  213. Earlio2: naisu
  214. +Rwby o_o: Remember ur at +1
  215. +Rwby o_o: Because dancer
  216. Earlio2: no
  217. Earlio2: choice scarf
  218. yMustay: not unless we switch straight in
  219. yMustay: on qd
  220. Earlio2: negates dancer I think
  221. +Rwby o_o: Which u should
  222. yMustay: which isn't happening every game
  223. Earlio2: then you risk getting slept
  224. +Rwby o_o: That's why I said goggles
  225. +Twix: use safety goggles calm mind
  226. #Broken Phobias: I agree
  227. yMustay: that's so sketchy
  228. #Broken Phobias: Safety Goggles CM is the set
  229. @lakeredman: Scarf is what I think we should use.
  230. #Broken Phobias: imo
  231. #Broken Phobias: do we need a scarfer?
  232. +Rwby o_o: Goggles also beats lilli
  233. yMustay: not really]
  234. Earlio2: Scyther is still probably a good emergency check to viv to have
  235. yMustay: tbh I kind of like the idea of goggles and just hard switch whenever wherever
  236. yMustay: if viv comes in
  237. yMustay: just always click that pom pom
  238. #Broken Phobias: goggles is the play imo
  239. Earlio2: sure
  240. @lakeredman: Alright, we can do safety googles.
  241. #Broken Phobias: did we all agree on Rapid Spin Komala?
  242. yMustay: nope
  243. yMustay: I think we should run defog
  244. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add oricorio pom-pom
  245. @BB-8-NU: oricorio pom-pom added
  246. Earlio2: yeah defog is probably better here
  247. #Broken Phobias: why
  248. Earlio2: skunk?
  249. #Broken Phobias: why do you think we should run Defog?
  250. #Broken Phobias: I'm curious
  251. yMustay: komala was originally meant to do more than spin
  252. Earlio2: It's more reliable than spin
  253. yMustay: it was supposed to also check viv
  254. +Rwby o_o: Skunk stops you losing to mushy
  255. yMustay: and we got that now
  256. Earlio2: and regirock won't be dying anytime soon
  257. Earlio2: so Defog is the way to go
  258. #Broken Phobias: Alright fair enough
  259. @lakeredman: Our team is pretty stealth rock, so any hazard removal is good.
  260. +Rwby o_o: I'd personally
  261. @lakeredman: Weak
  262. +Rwby o_o: Go acid spray defog
  263. Dibs The Dreamer: Hi frens, where we at so far
  264. @lakeredman: Hmm...
  265. +Twix: basically done lol
  266. #Broken Phobias: ~ws team
  267. @BB-8-NU: leafeon / regirock / granbull / magmortar / oricorio pom-pom
  268. Dibs The Dreamer: Oh
  269. Dibs The Dreamer: Slow team
  270. +Twix: it's BO
  271. +Rwby o_o: Wait why mortar
  272. Dibs The Dreamer: Oic
  273. @lakeredman: Viv check.
  274. Dibs The Dreamer: Mag seems an odd fit
  275. +Twix: Bouff > Magmortar
  276. yMustay: get rid of mortar we don't need that
  277. #Broken Phobias: Mag is for Viv
  278. Dibs The Dreamer: Ori + regirock cover
  279. +Rwby o_o: U have ori
  280. Dibs The Dreamer: What mag wants to cover
  281. @lakeredman: And special bulk in general.
  282. Dibs The Dreamer: Mag doesnt even cover viv
  283. +Twix: oh
  284. +Twix: !dt tauros
  285. +Twix: scarf tauros cleaner?
  286. Dibs The Dreamer: +1 ssss does 80%
  287. +Rwby o_o: Mag loses to viv
  288. Dibs The Dreamer: Also you guys should be concerned abouy
  289. Dibs The Dreamer: Primape
  290. #Broken Phobias: ~ws remove magmortar
  291. @BB-8-NU: magmortar removed
  292. yMustay: intimidate scarf tauros
  293. @lakeredman: Yeah, i'm down for tauros.
  294. @lakeredman: Sheer force seems better, though.
  295. #Broken Phobias: Sheer Force yea
  296. +Twix: not really on scarf
  297. #Broken Phobias: Intimdate is trash though
  298. Dibs The Dreamer: Oh also, you have you tspike absorber
  299. +Twix: because you're not using stuff like
  300. yMustay: intimidate isn't trash on scarf imo
  301. +Rwby o_o: Sheer Force means u can bluff lo
  302. +Twix: fire blast
  303. #Broken Phobias: oh true
  304. Dibs The Dreamer: If you run tauros you need lo ngl
  305. yMustay: scarf double edge
  306. yMustay: eq
  307. +Twix: intimidate helps w bulkier team
  308. yMustay: rock slide
  309. yMustay: pursuit
  310. Dibs The Dreamer: Cos you're hella ferro weak
  311. @lakeredman: Tauros shouldn't be tanking hits anyway.
  312. +Twix: hm
  313. +Twix: maybe a
  314. +Twix: primeape in that spot
  315. Dibs The Dreamer: Tbh intim tauros gives away your sey
  316. #Broken Phobias: I like that better
  317. yMustay: 4 SpA Sheer Force Tauros Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Ferroseed: 156-184 (53.6 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  318. yMustay: without a LO and sheer force
  319. @lakeredman: Hmmm, primape seems good.
  320. Shequanda: eyy
  321. +Rwby o_o: Ape then swanna / skunk
  322. Shequanda: im late what mon we doing?
  323. yMustay: ok primeape
  324. @lakeredman: Scarf?
  325. +Rwby o_o: Yes
  326. +Twix: encore primeape is a good set too
  327. #Broken Phobias: ~ws team
  328. @BB-8-NU: leafeon / regirock / granbull / oricorio pom-pom
  329. #Broken Phobias: we have two spots
  330. Shequanda: what is this around?
  331. yMustay: well one of them was primeape
  332. @lakeredman: Skuntank and a cleaner.
  333. Shequanda: leafeon?
  334. +Rwby o_o: Ape then defogger
  335. yMustay: and the other defog
  336. yMustay: defog could be a lumineon or a swanna
  337. +Rwby o_o: I prefer skunk because u lose
  338. +Rwby o_o: To mushy
  339. #Broken Phobias: ^
  340. @lakeredman: Preferably primape as the cleaner.
  341. +Rwby o_o: If you dont
  342. +Twix: primape can also
  343. +Twix: encore musharna
  344. +Rwby o_o: Yeah but then we're so slow
  345. +Twix: we're slow either way
  346. @lakeredman: Primape will most likely want a choice scarf.
  347. +Rwby o_o: Scarf ape slightly helps
  348. #Broken Phobias: Scarf Ape is the play yea tbh.
  349. yMustay: can we run CM taunt over CM roost on pom pom
  350. +Rwby o_o: We need recovery
  351. +Twix: wait what about putting an absol their
  352. #Broken Phobias: Scarf Absol?
  353. +Twix: maybe
  354. yMustay: primeape > absol
  355. #Broken Phobias: and then Skunktank can be Komala for our team Recovery
  356. +Rwby o_o: I'm not a fan of scarf outside of the surprise factor
  357. #Broken Phobias: err wait
  358. @lakeredman: But then, we can't really use sucker punch, cause who wants to be locked into sucker punch?
  359. yMustay: wish/protect/rapid spin/ u turn komala?
  360. @lakeredman: On scarf absol.
  361. +Twix: hm
  362. yMustay: that sounds weak as fuck
  363. +Twix: pyroar could be cool
  364. Shequanda: what are you guys building around?
  365. +Twix: or we just put in Scarf Scyther
  366. +Rwby o_o: If you're going komola it needs toxic
  367. yMustay: tbh Shequanda
  368. +Twix: Shequanda the first mon was leafeeon
  369. @lakeredman: Leafeon
  370. Shequanda: ah ok
  371. yMustay: we have a leafeon/regirock/granbull/oricorio ting
  372. Shequanda: what kind of leafeon set?
  373. +Twix: sd
  374. #Broken Phobias: SD
  375. +Twix: what about having
  376. yMustay: and we're not sure what to do with the last 2 spots
  377. +Twix: Chatot
  378. @lakeredman: Primape seems the best.
  379. Shequanda: cool
  380. yMustay: why chatot on a oricorio team
  381. Shequanda: you need hazard control
  382. @lakeredman: To me, at least.
  383. yMustay: I really like the skuntank primeape iteration
  384. #Broken Phobias: Guys
  385. Earlio2: we're taking scarf primeape?
  386. @lakeredman: Komala or skuntank.
  387. +Rwby o_o: Skunk
  388. #Broken Phobias: I prefer Skunk and Pyroar
  389. Shequanda: do a poll
  390. @lakeredman: How about we make a poll?
  391. #Broken Phobias: I'll do it
  392. #Broken Phobias: so give me the options
  393. @lakeredman: Komala or skuntank.
  394. Shequanda: skuntakn
  395. Shequanda: komala
  396. +Rwby o_o: Skunk komola swanna
  397. Shequanda: I would skuntank
  398. yMustay: do 2 ones
  399. yMustay: for skunk vs komala and primeape vs pyroar
  400. +Rwby o_o: You could actually go
  401. +Rwby o_o: And here me out
  402. +Twix: i like dugtrio kinda
  403. Shequanda: hear
  404. Shequanda: *
  405. @lakeredman: What do have to say?
  406. +Rwby o_o: Swanna + cleric lant
  407. yMustay: ngl that sounds kinda clean
  408. yMustay: except what we doing vs musharrna
  409. yMustay: except toxic
  410. Shequanda: toxic is big
  411. #Broken Phobias: Rwby we have a clerif
  412. #Broken Phobias: cleric
  413. +Rwby o_o: Protoxic lant smacks mushy
  414. +Rwby o_o: Oh then go protoxic
  415. +Rwby o_o: Lol
  416. +Rwby o_o: Even better
  417. yMustay: it makes the team look hella more BO too
  418. +Rwby o_o: Altho
  419. +Rwby o_o: Fuck ferro
  420. +Rwby o_o: Hmm
  421. #Broken Phobias: Pyroar
  422. #Broken Phobias: Scarf Pyroar
  423. +Twix: i like pyraor
  424. yMustay: CM taunt pom pom
  425. yMustay: helps vs ferro
  426. #Broken Phobias: no shhh
  427. yMustay: lol ok
  428. +Rwby o_o: Scarf pyroar is okayish
  429. #Broken Phobias: Ori wants Recovery
  430. Shequanda: does our pom pom carry safety goggles?
  431. yMustay: yes
  432. #Broken Phobias: ye
  433. Shequanda: SICK
  434. +Twix: Physical Moxie Scarf Pyroar
  435. yMustay: run taunt roost
  436. +Twix: easy wins
  437. yMustay: idc about cm
  438. +Rwby o_o: Ofc
  439. #Broken Phobias: lmao
  440. @@lakeredman: Physical pyroar?
  441. economics3: specs pyroar is better than scarf pyroar imo
  442. @@lakeredman: Not a chance.
  443. +Rwby o_o: I used moxie toxic Orb pyroar in nu to lure yama and lant
  444. +Rwby o_o: Ez
  445. +Twix: https://pastebin.com/mnnqsXZp
  446. @@lakeredman: Nu isn't the same as Pu, pal.
  447. +Rwby o_o: Ik
  448. +Rwby o_o: Lol
  449. #Broken Phobias: hm
  450. +Rwby o_o: It was a joke
  451. +Rwby o_o: ...
  452. #Broken Phobias: Idk if I want to run
  453. yMustay: taunt roost pom pom I'm not even joking
  454. @@lakeredman: Pyroar or primeape? Also, I knew it was a joke ;).
  455. #Broken Phobias: Phy roar
  456. +Rwby o_o: Py and swan
  457. +Twix: p(h)y(sical)roar
  458. #Broken Phobias: yea
  459. +Rwby o_o: Because you can't go skunk if u go roar
  460. yMustay: pyroar and swanna give us that nice fwg
  461. +Rwby o_o: But then mushy
  462. @@lakeredman: Skuntank is needed for mushy.
  463. yMustay: we could just toxic musharna
  464. +Twix: okay so major problem
  465. yMustay: with regi and grabull
  466. #Broken Phobias: no
  467. +Twix: we get 6-0'd by piloswine
  468. +Twix: lol
  469. yMustay: plus regi tanks that bitch for days
  470. Shequanda: we could just wait till it gets banned and rule the world
  471. #Broken Phobias: ~ws team
  472. @BB-8-NU: leafeon / regirock / granbull / oricorio pom-pom
  473. +Rwby o_o: Guys
  474. +Rwby o_o: Guys
  475. +Rwby o_o: Just use bronzor
  476. +Rwby o_o: Bop
  477. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add skuntank
  478. @BB-8-NU: skuntank added
  479. +Twix: I'm thinking primeape is the best option
  480. yMustay: skuntank primeape
  481. yMustay: that's it
  482. #Broken Phobias: yea
  483. @@lakeredman: Primape is awesome.
  484. yMustay: primeape doesn't lose to piloswine most importantly
  485. ++B3KS3L: Hwta is your team actuallY?
  486. #Broken Phobias: ~ws add primeape
  487. @BB-8-NU: primeape added
  488. yMustay: this is the most well rounded version of the team
  489. +Twix: hm
  490. @@lakeredman: The team is complete! All we need are the sets.
  491. +Twix: no item acrobatics primeape
  492. ++B3KS3L: What is the team?
  493. +Twix: beats gallade
  494. ++B3KS3L: please
  495. +Rwby o_o: I'd actually like bronzor over regi personally
  496. +Rwby o_o: But eh
  497. ++B3KS3L: Bulky OFFENSE
  498. #Broken Phobias: ~ws team
  499. @BB-8-NU: leafeon / regirock / granbull / oricorio pom-pom / skuntank / primeape
  500. ++B3KS3L: no bronzor
  501. ++B3KS3L: hum
  502. +Rwby o_o: Run cm bronzor
  503. ++B3KS3L: primeape scarf?
  504. yMustay: it's a nice looking team
  505. +Twix: oh
  506. +Rwby o_o: Ez
  507. +Twix: cool thing about primeape
  508. +Twix: is it has vital spirit potentially
  509. @@lakeredman: Primeape scarf, yes.
  510. yMustay: someone drop us a pastebin with the sets please
  511. ++B3KS3L: Okay
  512. +Twix: but defiant is better
  513. @@lakeredman: Defiant is much better.
  514. #Broken Phobias: yes defiant is better
  515. +Twix: hm
  516. +Rwby o_o: Okay so sets
  517. yMustay: run defiant because its not switchin in on viv or lilli anyway
  518. ++B3KS3L: the team actually lose versus Z sunny day Zard
  519. @@lakeredman: Regi
  520. yMustay: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck its literally 6-0d by zard
  521. ++B3KS3L: regi=solar beam
  522. yMustay: what have we done
  523. ++B3KS3L: skunt is physical?
  524. +Rwby o_o: Regi lives it
  525. +Twix: hm
  526. +Twix: let
  527. @@lakeredman: Sturdy.
  528. +Twix: us replace leafeon
  529. yMustay: regi takes 80
  530. +Twix: with a good mon
  531. yMustay: wait no
  532. ++B3KS3L: lakeredman i know
  533. yMustay: use SD 3 attacks leafeon
  534. ++B3KS3L: i play your core
  535. Shequanda: guys shiftry kind of claps us
  536. yMustay: we can frustration zard
  537. +Rwby o_o: Leafeon to sd shiftry
  538. yMustay: with chlorophyll
  539. ++B3KS3L: i have say skuntank/grandbull and regi on the start of the build
  540. ++B3KS3L: ^^
  541. ++B3KS3L: Because is my core in bulky offense
  542. ++B3KS3L: genius me
  543. yMustay: 252 Atk Life Orb Leafeon Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 159-187 (53.5 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  544. +Twix: what's the rock type natural cure
  545. +Twix: lol
  546. serenetrace2: hey
  547. yMustay: 252 Atk Life Orb Leafeon Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 101-120 (34 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
  548. serenetrace2: whats the team so far
  549. +Twix: !dt natural gift
  550. ++B3KS3L: wait
  551. +Twix: destroys charizard
  552. #Broken Phobias: ~ws team
  553. @BB-8-NU: leafeon / regirock / granbull / oricorio pom-pom / skuntank / primeape
  554. ++B3KS3L: i have forgot chlorophyl y
  555. yMustay: the team so far is zard food/zard food/zard food/zard food/zard food/zard food
  556. ++B3KS3L: yeah zard don break the team
  557. yMustay: B3KS3L I said chlorophyll
  558. ++B3KS3L: i know
  559. yMustay: but leafeon doesn't kill zard
  560. ++B3KS3L: Yeah
  561. #Broken Phobias: at +2 it does
  562. ++B3KS3L: but zard dont have recovery
  563. +Rwby o_o: Sd shiftry
  564. yMustay: what I'm saying B3KS3L
  565. @@lakeredman: What coverage does zard run?
  566. +Twix: eq fire
  567. +Rwby o_o: Beats it
  568. yMustay: is zard comes in on grabull and z sunny days for instance
  569. ++B3KS3L: The DD set dont break regi
  570. yMustay: leafeon will not be at +2 to RK
  571. ++B3KS3L: Sunny day is break by solar power
  572. ++B3KS3L: +leaf
  573. @@lakeredman: Damn, mag could have beat it if it didn't have eq.
  574. ++B3KS3L: and LO set just put pressure
  575. +Rwby o_o: !dt shiftry
  576. ++B3KS3L: but is a wallbreaker anyway
  577. +Rwby o_o: It gets rock slide
  578. +Twix: dude
  579. +Twix: !dt micle berry
  580. yMustay: we built around leafeon though
  581. +Twix: !dt natural cure
  582. +Twix: lures and kills charizard
  583. yMustay: you mean natural gift
  584. yMustay: lol
  585. +Twix: ye
  586. ++B3KS3L: Twix
  587. ++B3KS3L: just use Berry for rock move
  588. ++B3KS3L: because this can be eat :s
  589. @@lakeredman: Shiftry is really frail, though.
  590. yMustay: shiftry isn't just frail
  591. yMustay: we didn't build around itt
  592. yMustay: leafeon is our centrepiece
  593. @@lakeredman: Exactly.
  594. +Twix: !dt magost berry
  595. Shequanda: I dont like leafeon cri
  596. Shequanda: twix every typing has a 100 base power berry
  597. Shequanda: brb
  598. @@lakeredman: We could bait zard with leafeon, and sd on the switch.
  599. #Broken Phobias: just calc it
  600. @@lakeredman: But that's about it.
  601. Shequanda: Micle berry
  602. Shequanda: do !dt for that
  603. #Broken Phobias: we already did
  604. #Broken Phobias: !dt micle berry
  605. Shequanda: oh ok
  606. #Broken Phobias: someone calc it
  607. +Twix: 252 Atk Leafeon Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 428-508 (144.1 - 171%) -- guaranteed OHKO
  608. Shequanda: sry wasnt paying attention
  609. +Twix: also
  610. +Twix: I think Magost is better
  611. +Twix: since you can't eat it naturally
  612. #Broken Phobias: true
  613. +Twix: +2 252 Atk Leafeon Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Turtonator: 270-318 (103.4 - 121.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
  614. @@lakeredman: So, rock slide or natural gift?
  615. Shequanda: natural gift for the meme
  616. Shequanda: and the accuracy
  617. @@lakeredman: Rock slide seems more consistent.
  618. +Twix: it's natural gift
  619. +Twix: the calc is just weird
  620. #Broken Phobias: ^
  621. @@lakeredman: Hmmm...
  622. +Twix: it kills magmortar after rocks w/o a boost
  623. #Broken Phobias: okay thats def the play
  624. +Twix: this team still struggles with piloswine
  625. +Twix: even with primeape
  626. +Twix: i feel like we have to put a bulky water somewhere
  627. @@lakeredman: Granbull.
  628. +Twix: piloswine beats granbull 1v1 i think
  629. @@lakeredman: Toxic is something pilo doesn't want.
  630. #Broken Phobias: we could run Toxic over roar
  631. @@lakeredman: Pilo typically leads, so we take advantage of that.
  632. yMustay: alright so what'd you decide on while B3KS3L was giving me the hands
  633. @@lakeredman: Either pilo eats the toxic, or something else does.
  634. Shequanda: just add gurrdurr and remove somthn lol idfk
  635. #Broken Phobias: I'm making the sets rn
  636. Shequanda: wait a second
  637. Shequanda: zard 6 - 0s us
  638. #Broken Phobias: no it doesnt
  639. #Broken Phobias: we went over this
  640. Shequanda: really?
  641. #Broken Phobias: yea
  642. Shequanda: what counters do we have
  643. #Broken Phobias: what EVs on Pom Pom
  644. +Twix: max spa and speed
  645. @@lakeredman: Natural power rock leafeon, Shequanda.
  646. ++B3KS3L: Is bulky offense
  647. ++B3KS3L: Dont need counter
  648. +Twix: I mean technically
  649. ++B3KS3L: or check for all mon
  650. #Broken Phobias: is it modest
  651. +Twix: Leafeon is slower than zard
  652. +Twix: no it needs the speed
  653. Shequanda: oh that's what natural gift was ther for
  654. ++B3KS3L: Chlorophill
  655. #Broken Phobias: figured
  656. ++B3KS3L: and dd set is wall by regi
  657. +Twix: honestly
  658. +Twix: Simisage > Leafeon seems kinda cool
  659. +Twix: but it was the main pokemon
  660. #Broken Phobias: no
  661. @@lakeredman: Nah.
  662. #Broken Phobias: Leafeon is better
  663. @@lakeredman: Leafeon stays.
  664. +Twix: !learn simisage, rock slide
  665. @@lakeredman: Leafeon gets rock slide.
  666. #Broken Phobias: Simisage is a no
  667. Shequanda: why
  668. +Twix: no it doesn't lakeredman
  669. @@lakeredman: Oh, my mistake.
  670. @@lakeredman: Sorry.
  671. Shequanda: simisage is faster than leafeon tho
  672. #Broken Phobias: I have all the sets down
  673. Shequanda: lol
  674. yMustay: its faster than zard
  675. yMustay: more importantly
  676. ++B3KS3L: No
  677. ++B3KS3L: Sunny day set
  678. yMustay: but we're leafeon people out here
  679. yMustay: and B3KS3L is right
  680. @@lakeredman: Leafeon stays, no questions asked.
  681. ++B3KS3L: Y
  682. @@lakeredman: End of discussion.
  683. #Broken Phobias: http://pokepast.es/c53bb4404253b7bd
  684. #Broken Phobias: there's the team
  685. #Broken Phobias: you guys cool with me ending the Workshop now?
  686. @@lakeredman: Yeah.
  687. @@lakeredman: That was fun.
  688. yMustay: thanks guys
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