FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
@TheIdiotNinja I'd slash Hyper Beam with Counter as well on the physical Laxset.

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
i was considering that but i think you nearly always drop eq tbh
i might make the change, i was on edge on it in the first place
does @Nails have an opinion on this

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
I was arguing with my teammates in SPL which move to drop and they were mostly supporting dropping Hyper Beam.

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
well
no offense to your teammates in spl but I think I know one or two things more than them about rby
it's definitely something you can do but hyper beam is a pretty great move to have

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
It's nice but it's also so useful being able to scout for Counter and having coverage for Don and Gar.

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
but bslam -> hb still beats counter (although it's obviously not nearly as safe as eq), gengar doesn't really exist (mostly), rhydon still doesnt enjoy coming in to get chipped too much (and hates para)
i guess both have enough merits
i'll probably slash it

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
I'd just ask what others think.
(it didn't sent that message earlier)

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
yeah we'll hear from nails and others

Nails31/05/2019
No reflect no amnesia lax needs hyper beam to be a real pokemon

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
so you don't think bslam eq hb boom should have counter slashed over hb

Nails31/05/2019
Unparaed lax losing to paraed chansey switching in is unacceptable

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
yeah that's kinda how i feel too

Nails31/05/2019
Slash counter under eq

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
that's done already
fomg also wanted it slashed over hb
but id almost never do that
unless my opp is a known gengar spammer or w/e

Nails31/05/2019
Counter hits gengar anyways
Like
Counter lax isn't good
But

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
What do you do with Lax vs a para'd Chansey though which might have Counter itself? Without EQ you can't scout for it (unless you want to click Counter vs Chansey).

Nails31/05/2019
Did the chansey switch into me
If so I slam again and they go to 20
And they have a 75% chance to take a kill and have their chansey too low to switch into starmie

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
No, let's say both are at 100% and Chansey has revealed BoltBeam (or just Beam).

Nails31/05/2019
Then I switch to something else
Eq sucks there too

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
Then you lose a chance to get momentum
especially when you suspect that the opponent has Counter

Nails31/05/2019
I lose a chance to get my lax paraed
As well

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
Well... what if someone faces you, you lead with Jynx and revealed Jolteon and Starmie. I've never seen you run anything else but Counter on that Chansey.

Nails31/05/2019
Then we're prepping for nails and not an analysis
And we mention the importance of having kabutops coverage in tauros's analysis
As much as I'd like to think so I'm not the rby metagame
I'd love to be corrected on this one though
Feel free

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
It isn't the only factor but the combination of 1. actually pressuring Don without needing to hope for slam para and then still losing to it with Lax anyway 2. scouting Counter on Chansey/Lax 3. having a move to hit Gar in a 1v1 if necessary are valid enough points to warrant keeping EQ as main option imo

Nails31/05/2019
I just very strongly disagree with earthquake snorlax in all situations
I don't think being walked by gengar is much more than a nuisance
Walled*

FriendOfMrGolem12031/05/2019
That would mean you also disagree with the EQ+Body Slam Reflect Lax which is (rightfully imo) listed as a set in the analysis

TheIdiotNinja31/05/2019
earthquake is slashed last