Master88 2/2

Hopefully i quote that right.
Yeah i use always save point in Sector 3 entrance after cutscenes/elevators. This save is only at most 2 seconds slower than Sector 4 save what Wassup use.
Yeah pixel perfect shine is really hard. I not still use that my 52 run. It save bit time and it looks cool when you recorded this run.
Good luck.
I not understand why you not can delete your own posts. Couple weeks ago this working.
I make one post in wrong topic: I delete my writes, but i not can delete my post
Anyway. Hopefully you can delete your own post in near future. :|
I got Ceres escape 42.19 PAL yesterday. My normal goal is 41.xx. 42 is very rarery for me I get 42 only twice. I play that as perfect as i can, still i never can get 43.xx time remain.
I don,t understand how Cpadolf can get 44.xx time remain. He is pretty darn skill PAL player ever. He said he not very good escaped of ceres.
I trying Torizo skip too. Couple times Samus stuck in the doorway. But still never escaped here. Only way is reset my game. I trying that many times. I think this feel lot like Prime geo core bomb slot. This nasty one took 6 days. Probably Torizo skip is as hard as. Cpadolf said use that his SS run. He is crazy.
I don,t hear your run.
Any new segments done?
Best time 100% single segment: 1.10 (PAL-versio)
-I am very happy with this. Many things working very well. I lose still whole 5 minutes my segmented run.
Good spots: -Kraid quick kill is done. -I manage norfair gate hater -Phantoon avarage 4 round. Much better than my previous 100% SS run battle. -Nice Spore W/O crystal flash trick without dying -Draygon MAX round, but too much fly attacks -Early spring ball trick without dying. -No major mistakes here. I get gauntlet items without dying. I am very happy with this too. :P This is so nasty trick very end of the game.
Bad spots. -Only single mistake was Maridia main street missiles took 10-15 seconds too much time to get -Lot little mistakes -No much risk: *I get wrecked ship ET with gravity suit. This took 12-15 more seconds, but it is much easier use that with SS run *No barrier glitch. This not make game much faster on 100% run. I miss that always once or twice my any-% SS run. I don,t use that this time *No MB murder beam.
Anyway. This is 3 minutes faster than my previous 100% SS run.
Same as my 29.55 run. Yeah that sounds like nice. My segment was still 3 seconds faster. I remember i make only one mistake here. I lose one more second in save room Chozodia +i don,t have all missiles before zebetites. Soundls like you still can improve 5 seconds your segment.
But hopefully you not need that. I hate MB segment very much, too much luck bases here.  Next two parts was very good in my run. If you keep your speed up. You can get sub 30 even sub 29.50.
Actually you not need 3bsj never with WR speedrun route.
Couple peoples said you need triple bsj in Transit station. Actually 2bsj working as well for me, but i still like lay three bomb most of the time.
MJ. I must be said it is near impossible explain that perfect unmoprh timing any better. This make my work harder when i play game last time over month ago. But read that old topic link again, i explain that as well as i can. Only what i can say you need practice that alot first time. Single bsj timing is bit slower than double and triple. Can you make single bsj? If you can it is much easier make double or triple bsj next.
I know This is only link where you can find this run:
I don,t sure what is your questions. But yeah main page said you need activated Y-axis your control menu. I don,t need that. Normal R-jump W/O y-axis is possible as well.
I dont define 28% low-%. My current any-% run i have 27% item.
But congrats your run. Your time is pretty nice.
I think you can get faster than 1.11. Wassup made 1-2 minutes mistakes PB expansion room his 1.13 run. W/O that  his time is 1.11 as well. I think 1.09 is good SS for you. You are only real Fusion Master what i know.
Anyway. 1.16 is good for me. I am extremely happy if i can see 1.15 time.
Yeah SS run can be done faster.
I use 21 save points. avarage save took 8 seconds game time. Save back of corner took almost 10-12 seconds. I lose my saves 2-3 minutes game time. I still think Wassup WR SS run is very well done. I think my run looks like 1.13 SS, but there is save use. I watch wassup run last time over 2 years ago.
100% is really hard beat perfectly. I think i try 1.15 ending yet. I don,t know can i get that. Probably i go try 100% SS run in near future.
Sounds like good. Map computer took 8-10 seconds game time This is too much :x. But better luck next time man!
BEst time 100%: 1.16
-This run is done very well. 6 minutes better than my previous 100% run -I think i can get high 1.15 ending yet. But this requires very good second last segment. -Second last segment is very hard complete fast enought. There is lot hard trick. Just like Random PB expansion. Took 1-2 minutes to get In Wassup WR run. I get that my first tries, but it took alot restarts.
-this not look my 52 any-% run. I don,t have much patience manipulate Ripper manipulations. I really dislike 100% run on Fusion. game is full amount manipulate luck, enemy locations -Still there is not major mistakes and i am overall very happy with this. -This run is done in 22 segments (21 savepoint using)
Screenshot is done hopefully i paste right photo.
Nice. You finally completed your Tourian segment:
My save Before Mothere brain: 0.17.34 (46/50m 4sm) Chozodia suitless Samus first save: 0.19.36 Chozodia save same as Transience: 0.25.28
Clear time: 0.29.55
You have good change get sub 30 now. You have 3 seconds ahead my run. Hopefully my subtimes help you.
Yes i mean. :)
You can use shine space jump through tentacle/room. Next room you can rise up with simply space jump. Actually it is faster than shine jump, but only one seconds faster when i timed it. But absolutely much easier way.
Yeah. I already test save point too but it was always bit slower than save less segment. I think Biospark shot all double core-X shot,  i not never good at this. I sometimes can hit one double core-X SM shot if i am luck enought. But still save point don,t save enought.
I decide got perfect eyedoor, fast 4-5 hits Mega-X and near perfect enemy locations after boss. i remember only 2 enemys was wrong place in my run. This not take enought time, i lose at most 2-3 seconds game time about this.
Save skip is definitely good idea IMO and it save alot time for me. But yeah it depend how good you are shot double core-X shots. Perfect eyedoor, perfect battle and all double shots and perfect enemys locations in one go can so big luck base. But if you miss something example double core-X shot or eye beam it is still faster skip save point IMO. That save took at least 10-11 seconds too much time.
Same i think underwater area save. There is no good reason use that savepoint. Underwater area is one easiest level in the game. And now you can skip that crazy shinespark end of sector 4. You can use simple faster space jump method here. It is 1 seconds faster and 90% easier than shine spark jump what Wassup use.
Triple and double pretty same thing IMO both give same more heights, i don,t really know where you really need triple bsj itself. But double bsj is bit easier when you lay three bomb IMO. Lay three bomb: Down, middle and high. When second bomb explode simply instant unmorph after this. If you want do double bsj lay second bomb middle of the room (not very high). But it is easier lay three bomb because it not requires as good timing IMO.
Already one guy ask that same questions. There is one topic. Read this:
Main page can help you too. But it require practice little bit. Unmorph timing is bit different between single and double bsj. Double between triple timing is pretty same. Triple timing= Push back and unmorph after second bomb explode. Camera spot is same as well.
This sounds like same as my battle my 52.xx run. But my best attempt ever is i need only one missile shot after first bomb come out. 0 bomb is possible but so hard IMO. There is no reason use save point before boss on any-% run. Probably save before  robot is good idea 100% run only.
My best is 42.xx on PAL versio.
I think that PAL escape is couple seconds slower than US versio Probably Cpadolf know better. His escape is definitely better than my. I think 44.xx is even too hard. I don,t never trying that seriously. But i am pretty sure 45-46 never happen on PAL.
Sounds nice. You have at least one minutes ahead my 52 minutes run. I got about 13.20-30 before Serris. Wassup time was definitely very high 12 minutes, because after AQA i was less than 45 seconds behind WR.
How much under water wall jump save time? It looks slow, but many TAS use still that. My opinion it is too hard make fast enought on console.
Mean you 2 round Box battle= You kill that after 1 bomb. I kill as well, but once i was very close kill him in one round but it really is too hard/frustrating trick on speedrun.
I see you use my idea skip save before NOC first visit.  :) I think save skip after Mega-X can good idea as well, but it require good manipulate luck with enemy locations after boss. But savepoint back of corner took more than 8 seconds. even 12-15 seconds if in game time run when you go in door.
Yeah Mega-X is possible kill without energy tank. I got as well fast 4 hits kill my 1% run last time, but it took 2 hours. Sometimes boss drain 40 sometimes 20 energypoints per hit.
This is so cool see 0 energy tank any-% run. Energy tank in NOC not take any time. At most 0,5 seconds. This make your game easier.
Still i don,t understand NO damage Yakuza 2nd form and No damage Nightmare for perfect speed. You sounds like TAS man.
Thanks Piccolocube and Secretkey. :D
Yeah you are right 7 ET is bit too much. But i get 7 fastest energy tanks. I hate died in SS runs especially Fusion SS run because it is borring start that again and again. Too much navigations rooms and elevators here :x 1 & 2 Before Archanus 3 moph ball tunnel SRX 4 Before Zazabi 5 Before Big Core-X 6 Before Yakuza 7 Nightmare room energy tank (using fast method to get)
Still i need at least 5 energy tank in SS run or i need play much more cautions, i died alot my segmented run when i have 3 ET max. But why you get only 2 ET secretkey? There you can get automatically 3 ET. 1 Archanus Et took 2 seconds 2 Big core-X ET only 0-0,5 seconds 3 Yakuza ET. This is hard skip without hi jump ball. This took at most 2 seconds to get.
Absolutely no reason skip these energy tanks. Especially SS run.
Best time single segment: 0.54
-2 minutes slower than my segmentd -2 minutes faster than my previous SS run
-14% item (7 ET, 45m 10pb
-There is alot mistakes almost everywhere. I am pretty sure this time is very high 54 minutes. -Many boss doing good. I am happy my Serris fight. this time i kill him 2 charge shots only. Most bosses doing good.
-I have overall good eye door luck. Most door open first tries. Nigtmare room was only bad. It shot 3 beams.
Bad parts: -Bad luck Archanus (2 wheel attack) and Eye tube boss jump at least 10 waste jumps -I miss all double core-X shots -Big core-X battle 8 hit kill and very bad enemy locations after this -Ice missile segment. there is one stupid major mistake, cost me at least 10 seconds. -One big major mistake in habitation deck cost me at least 10 seconds. -Escape sequence 4.11 time remain. My best is 4.23. -I have very bad luck Yakuza first form. Luckily second form was best ever. -Under water area includes lot little mistakes everywhere.
This really surprise how much time all saves take time. This run is not that masterwork. Still i lose only 2 minutes my segmented run. I can seriously think if many things working as good as i want. I can see my SS goal 52 minutes in near future.
No energy tanks? This made Yakuza battle very hard beat fast enought. Nigtmare two first forms is definitely faster beat if you have at least 2 energy tanks max. Energy tank before Big core-X don,t take any time. If you lay bomb and get energy tank before bomb explode.
It is faster beat game with 2 tanks energy than 0. Nightmare first two forms is definitely 5 seconds faster to beat if you have enought energy max. And how you mean beat perfect Yakuza second form? I lose always 2-3 energy tanks and Wassup lose as well.
Sounds interesting. You are crazy.
EDIT:+++++ Wait. I probably understand that bit wrong. You don,t currently now have any energy tanks, right? But are you planned get energy tank in NOC and energy tank before Yakuza? Because you skip that energy tank before Archanus. I am pretty sure 1-2 energy tanks is definitely minimum what you need, if you go try perfect console any-% run. Nightmare is faster and Yakuza 100 times easier.
Biospark put his route in first page. Save points includes.
Mean you that maindeck expansion in morph ball tunnel or room left side at elevator? Both expansions is good idea IMO. I get both expansions my 52 minutes run. Wassup dawgs skip both. I think it is as good skip or get these expansions. But it is easier speed run game when you have 40 m-max.
I skip much save end part game. I was very lazy try make perfect segments. I never have much change shots double core-X shots with heavy missiles. But yeah i understand if you managed one round Nightmare and 3 round core-X it is much more comfortable use save point in underwater area. Nightmare is very random beat perfectly even Wassup made one major mistake against him.
EDIT:****************** I already ask: Is this faster use shine space jump through tentacle/corridor than use shinespark super jump in end part under water area? I think it is as fast as. Even faster use simply shine spacejump, but i don,t see that in new runs.
I mean this: My opinion shine space jump throug tentacle is better.
EDIT 2************ I timed/ensure this. It is one seconds faster use my method than super jump (WR-method). Even 2 seconds faster if you rise up that space jump room fast enought.
Yeah this is news. My method is faster than WR method and easier too.
How your run Biospark? Any new part completed?
My clear time was 0.52 (screenshots is done post-time topic). I think i don,t can get any faster run. I really can feel how hard is try beat WR. How hell you can managed that SAX 5 hits kill?. I watch that your video it looks pretty easy, but SAX melt always faster than i be in time for shot my charge shots. And not say you use that your 1% SS run.
What do you think save skip in under water area? there is NO random manipulations spots IMO, probably enemy locations, but nothing else. There is one crazy shine spark what Wassup use his run. But i guess this not any faster. I even think it is faster use shine space jump through tentacle. and use fast space jump up a next room. When you make shine spark it itself took time IMO. I don,t use that and i skip that save in under water area. It save at least 10-12 seconds your time. That is bad spot save your game IMO.
This new forum have two bad things: :-s
1: Where is page roller? There is many large topics, just like post your time topics, need help topics, social topics. You can,t leaf all pages fast enought here. You not can choose page what you want check. Old forum page roller was good thing. You can choose every old pages what you want to check.
2: Why other people writing are lost?  EXAMPLE here: My write is lost here. There is much more losting post too. Many MR.X writing is lost and many other peoples text too around the forum. Where is the other text/writing?
Can somebody fixed these things. It is fun read old post IMO.
Ok
Best time: 0.52 :P
-16 segments & 9% item (3et 40m 10pb) -I think this not very high 52 minutes. About 40 seconds over i guess. -I even can say i can get very high 51 minutes, if i can get perfect Nightmare battle and SAX 5 hits kill. -That SAX 5 hits kill doesn,t work. I test that many times already, but i don,t have any change made that trick. Hardest 2d metroid trick ever what i trying. :) But this itself not drop my time 51 minutes, i don,t need that this time.
-If i have time i play that end part again my GBA player, i can get screenshot my completions screen. I think this is my last any-% Fusion run. This run was totally awesome. I working 2 weeks and i finally get amazing run. I don,t still use double core-X shots expect Archanus and eyetube. Both easiest double shots in the game.
I really can say 48 is very possible time. But only if you have amazing skills/luck. I wait you Biospark.
I just check how i did that. You know L-jump? -L jump is simply Keep L and jump and release L before your second jump.
***R-jump my method******* -Jump normal L-jump first -When L jump take off. -Release L button -Push all R and L button and B button immediately after this -Relase all buttons
If you done this right, jump give you better boost than normal L-jump. I know this took first time alot practice. But when you understand that. This not too hard.
That R-jump is what you need in geo core. It very hard try explain any better. Timing is different between 50hz & 60hz mode.
Geo core is hell. I managed that trick twice. First time it took only 5 hours but my second time it took 50 hours and 6 days, Weird, but it bomb slot is bit random.
I recommend R-jump method. Dash is too hard IMO.
R-jump give enought distance *********** I copy Stefanvan dijike tips
Do you know how to R-jump and L-jump? For the first jump press L right after you jumped and for the second jump press and hold R then press B and L and release L and R. This may sound like a lot of things to do in one jump but just get used to it. ***********************************************************
This took practice first time.
What i recommend too. Stefan already said 60hz mode is better than 50hz mode in geo core. 60 hz mode probably increase bit your succesrate stuck into the bomb slot. I managed that twice and both time it was 60hz mode as well.
R-jump timing is different 60hz than 50hz. It feel even harder, but if you play enought this not your problem i think.
All what you need. Watch main page video very carefully. It is really important. This jump is very precise. All what you need is perfect hit  and much luck/patience
Good luck hopefully this help you.
It is definitely good idea, but some reason SAX 5 hits kill is much harder what it looks. And i erased save file before SAX. I have 2 copy Samus aran ship and one copy Before Nettori. My Yakuza is very possible improve, if boss open his mouth bit faster.
Is that eye core-X double shot possible on console?. I think it is just as crazy/impossible as double eye door shot.
Today i just managed that red brinstar shaft wall jumps W/O hijumps/ice beam and i not kill any rippers.
I´ve must be say it was really hard, especially SS-run. This can really kill your game. TAS style doesn,t work, i think it is near impossible on console. That route caused bit backtrack IMO. I think is this better use old Blueglass route? Made early PB game any faster? probably it save little bit time. You can get Kraid lair missiles very early W/O back track. But early PB caused lot back track IMO.
But well this sounds still interesting
4 jumps is really luck base. I got that once my 1% run. 3 jumps: Is this really possible?
I beat my game 53 minutes I don,t working that end part very carefully. I definitely go try 52 minutes yet. I need 15-20 seconds better end game.
Save 11: 0.33 Ship Save 12: 0.36 before Nettori Save 13: 0.38 Sector 5 Save 14: 0.44 Noc before Security robot Save 15: 0.50 (almost 7-10 seconds over) Before SAX.
Best time: 0.53
-9% item -16 segment (15 save)
I am pretty sure this not my final time. My time is 53 and 15-20 seconds over. I completed this SA SHIP-END in at one sitting. Of course couple save. One before Nettori and one before Security robot. and one before Sax.
No Omega quick kill because this not drop my time 52 minutes. I trying that crazy 5 hits SAX kill, but this not really working. I use orginal method against SAX.
But i go try improve 15-20 seconds yet. I can get 52 if i working that enought. I´ve must be beat Nate old WR.
It really surprised if you get 47 minutes. :) I know you can get at least 48 minutes.
My run Save 10: 0.30 Sector 5 entrance. -I play Escape sequence and habitation deck in one go. My escape was avarage 4.21. My current best is 4.23 time remain. reason why i play both in one go, my escape segment was almost 2 rooms slower than my best escape segment. but save skip save 8 seconds and habitation deck is pretty easy complete perfectly expect there is one difficult shine spark.
Save 11: 0.33 (almost 30 seconds over) Samus aran ship. -Wassup time was 32 i don,t know how much seconds over. I hope very high
I beat totally perfect Sector 5 segment. One best segment my run. Escape/habitation was bit avarage, but i watch later if i go need improve that yet.
I have almost 1.30 mintues ahead my 54 minutes run. This is good change got 52 minutes if i keep my speed up. I have almost 30 seconds ahead my current 1% time.
Right now i have 40 M-max. Wassup have 30. This can save bit against Nettori, but who know?
EDIT: Sorry Wassup time in Samus aran ship was 31. I am sure it is very high. I improve 10 more seconds my escape/habitation part. My time is still 0.33. (20-sec over).
I´ve must be say Wassup escape sequence is insane and his habitation deck part was amazing. One best segment what i ever see.
That save definitely bit time skip save. That Kridly method is fast as well. When PB explode. Up rise your morp ball mode and shot SAX your beam. Sax turn and jump your over. Now you can easily escaped here.
Main page method you lose time when your must be dodge SAX ice beams. This is not any faster IMO.
Nice see you still go continued your run. Are you planned go recorded that? Post your sub times here as precise as you can. I can see how much faster you are.
Nice see you planned run that. I got Echoes 2.42 100% segmented run almost half years ago. S_E got 8 minutes faster SS run than my segmented
This must be cool run. But it is definitely very possible improve that. New route is faster than Sparky old route. sub 2.20 is very possible time on normal mode. S_E got sub 2.30 his hard mode 101% segmented run but he don,t send that video :(.
Save 7: 0.20. (almost 8 seconds over) Sector 6 before Core-X battle.
-This is one best segment my run. -I manage all shines expect that Sector 3 PYR first pixel perfect spark. It is so hard IMO. It save probably 2-3 seconds.
-Took me always lot tries
-My boss battle was amazing. He drop only one bomb. 0 bomb method is theoretical possible just like main page but it is near impossible for me. -I skip save point before sector NOC. My opinion you not really need that. Biospark said use that save, but i not really need that. NOC first part don,t includes any real manipulate parts IMO. And save point took 8 seconds time. -SAX encounter. I use Kridly SS method here. I think there is no much faster way. Probably Biospark use harder way skip that, because he already mention: SAX encounter is bit hard.
-My time is pretty low 20 minutes at save. I timed it is at most 8 seconds over. Ingame clock run 21 minutes when i wait 52 seconds. Wassup time was 0.19, but i don,t know how much over it is.
EDIT: 14th November***************************************************
Save 8: 0.22 Sector 5 entrance Save 9: 0.24. (58-59 seconds over) Sector 5 end
Wassup time was 24 minutes as well. This is good i am under minutes behind WR time right now.
-I skip save after Big Core-X battle. My opinion save points took forever time. That Biospark route includes absolutely too much save points IMO
That save skip after Puff-X is very important. I test near perfect segments with save (there is one double core-X shot and perfect boss fight and eye door) and good segment W/O save point. W/O save point segment was faster than with save point segment. This is weird how much save points took time.
Probably one best idea make perfect run is skip much more possible save points. You of course need save before random boss fights. Just like save before Serris, Yakuza, Nettori, etc...
Possible save points skip IMO. Biospark route includes these saves. I think it is good idea skip???**************************************: -Save before Sector 2 first visit -Save before Sector 6 first visit -Save after Big core-X -Save before Sector 5 (probably good idea I dont skip that) -Save under water area (I don,t use that normally) -Save before Ridley (Security robot don,t includes pure manipulations and Ridley is fast battle. SRX both saves took alot time.
That save before Sector 6 first visit is not that good. Biospark use harder method skip SAX. He said it is random. I think he use same as mainpage. It really looks hard. But that Kridly method is at most 1-2 seconds slower. It is better skip save and use easier SAX encounter method here.
This is my theory make perfect run. We all know all 20 save points took near 3 minutes game time. It is very much.
I remember that run he post that 101% SS run in SCU site. I trying find that half years ago, but i don,t find that in archive org or SDA. His hard mode SS run is available in SDA. He made video his 100% hard mode run too, but he don,t never send that video any site.
S_E last visit here (m2k2) is over years ago.
Looks lot like my first speedrun.
There is post your personal time topic too:
I don,t see speedtrick topic here.
I find one 100% speedtrick, main page don,t includes that and i am sure Wassup don,t use that his SS run because this is bit hard IMO. I don,t know much about TAS, but this trick is possible on console.
I don,t have skills made video about this. But i try explain this. If somebody else want made video later.
*****100% speedtrick*** -2x missile expansions after Big core-X battle. -Next room when you completed big core-X -Jump wall jump upper level -You see little hole left side room. -You see puffer fly over hole -Jump wall jump and get damage boost with puffer and grap hole and get Expansion. Damage boost turn your face and give little bit more heights your wall jump. -Grap missile expansion
2ND expansion -Get out and go next room. -Climb up ladder and walk towards of left door -Grap missile expansion onto the crumble block. Next is hard spot- -Try avoid falling down and go towards right side.
This save definitely bit time.
I belive you Lance. I really can feel how hard/impossible Draygon is W/O slowdown & savestate. Still it is theoretical possible.
I not come try. My skills really suck with computer keyboard. I think i have enought trouble beat orginal Super metroid W/O my Snes controls I really need Snes controls when i play Super Metroid.
Know who wassup sub times? And what is your sub times Bio spark?
I got
Save 5 before Serris 0.13 (almost 30 seconds over) That TRO segment Eye doore W/O beam shots and good boss fight Core-X 3 round (2 is possible) No SAX-glitch use. This is still very well done IMO.
Save 6 Sector 3 PYR save 0.16. (almost 10 sec over) -Eye door W/O beams -Serris very fast 2 round. -Core-X. I miss all double shots (probably i come improve that segment yet, but everything else working very well) It is hard time improve that. -Totally Amazing Sector 4 part, best ever for me. -I save my game in Sector 3 because there you not need watch stupid sub programs. Wassup use Sector 4 save it is probably 2 seconds faster.
Once i get 2 round Serris & 3 round core-X but i miss stupid shine spark in Sector 4 and this ruin my totally amazing attempt :x.
This game is very frustrating because it includes full amount manipulate luck and i am don,t very good shots double core-X shots. I really suck about this. :(
If i learn better succesrate shots double core-X shots, i have very good change beat current WR. :|
I guess i am 30-40 seconds behind WR time. Who know?
This is totally awesome you completed that W/O savestate. But you still use couple slowdown as you said against Draygon.
Next time your must be avoid both save state and slowdown. This must be incredible. Hopefully this happen somedays in near future.
Go & try. :)
I see your route are change again.
Is this faster? You get PB before Kraid, just like TAS run. But is this faster? Your must be kill all rippers and up rise red brinstar shaft W/O ice and without hi jumps. I am pretty sure your must be kill rippers here, because it is very hard up rise W/O ice beam. This place took alot time on console
Route sound like interesting but is this faster?
Best time single segment: 0.46 (PAL-versio)
-My new record is one minutes faster than my previous and minutes slower than my segmented run -6et, 45m 20sm, 1rt, 5pb (33% collection items
- am very happy my boss fights +Torizo hotarubi style +Kraid quick kill +Phantoon fast 4 round (good eye open manipulations) +Avarage botwoon Smokey style (6-7 round) +Draygon is done very well +Ok Ridley +Good MB, but No murder beam
+No major mistakes. Most trick is managed here. +I manage gate hater & lot enemy boost.
Bad spots: -I miss once mock ball before Super missiles -I need one more SM refill this cost 5 seconds -I freeze ripper wrong place cost me almost 7 seconds -Norfair downstair was overall bad area my run, there is possible improve almost 30 seconds, i think. ADD: 30+20 seconds when i get that energy tank before ridley, i really need that, because i have only one energy tank my energys left. It is near impossible beat Rildey W/O energy tanks. -I miss barrier glitch once. i get out room and i back. Cost me 8-10 seconds.
Still this run is very well done, good enought right now. It is hard time try improve this one. There is amazing boss fights. Example good Phantoon fight save alot time.
Save 4: 0.09 Before eye tube boss
-I got very high 0.09 minutes & (almost 56-58 seconds over) this is better than my 54 and 1% 57 run sub time.
I just timed SA.X glitches, P.Jman dont called that gltich, but main page called: -P.Jman style in youtube: is fastest method (6.8 seconds). Morph ball jump is incredible difficult, i test that yesterday couple times. -Main page style is one seconds slower 7.5 (no damage) & 7.8 with damage. That damage style what wassup use is not that good because it drain all your energy expect last energypoint. This mean your must be get couple energy parasite, before sector 4.This made your game slower collect refills.
-Normal way without SA.X pass glitch is 14 seconds. It is half slower than 3 previous way. If you use savepoint. PJ.man said save point took 7.45 seconds. This mean it is as fast as skip save and use normal way. And if you use save point and use TRO SA.X pass glitch.
Some reason i never ever can manage next thing in one sitting if it is possible it save 7 seconds time. -Eye door manipulation -Pefect boss -2x Double core-X shots -SAX pass glitch -And everything else thing.
I pass that SAX once my life, took me really much deaths. It is totally luck IMO or you need incredible fast reflex.
Ok.
Know you how many seconds save point took game time? Are you test that your TAS?
how much seconds? -Save your game -Restart -And continued your game
I know when you save game and restart it took longer than save point itself.
-ZM save point took 6 seconds, but i am pretty sure Fusion save took longer. I think 8-10 seconds. I just started try speedrun. I got 0.00 middle save in main deck and 0.03.very high (56-57 seconds) in SRX.
My previous run i skip that middle save but segment itself was slower but time was still 0.03 very high as well in SRX.
This time i use that middle save. I avoid all eye beams and made 2 round core-X battle, but my game is at most 3 seconds faster than last time.
I think save point took 10 seconds, but can somebody ensure this.
I suck quotes text. But i answers/give comments W/O quotes.
BIO SPARK WROTE: No, the sa-x encounter is a bit tough, I have to jump over it. Plus, I can just make an absolutely perfect segment.
ANSWER: Your method is definitely different than my. I use same as Kridly his SS run. This is pretty easy.
+Thanks Bio spark your last boss video it was totally insane. +I agree that Yakuza Charge method too. My opinion charge working better than missiles. Missiles working better probably 100% game or TAS.
TONSKI WROTE: What the... Are you going for sub 50 min Master?
ANSWER: I think i don,t can beat game sub 50 minutes. My topic idea is theory how you can beat game sub 50 minutes? I am sure 48 is very possible on console if you apply all new trick. I still planned try one more speedrun yet in near future. Hopefully 52 minutes or under :)
NATE WROTE: biospark is an insane fusion player. i thought that video was tas at first.
ANSWER: I agree this. He is only one who really can get 48 minutes time. Easily at least 49 minutes.
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Questions: Why that Yakuza time saver doesn,t work for me?
I trying that multiple times. Some reason i do that wrong. I just shake left and right d-pad as fast as i can, but boss don,t want drop me down. Is there any more else important thing what i must be remember?
EDIT**: This working now, but this is very uncessary trick. This not increase Yakuza mouth open manipulation rate. This not working as fast as Nate. l already push too slow my D-pad it was reason why it took much tries. Your must be shake left-right your D-pad incredible fast.
Orginal method is much better/faster IMO. Mouth open manipulation is random as well.
Well this is good point, i don,t remember jump i before i shot. I just kill first SM core-X battle in 4 round, took me almost 2 hours. This is 2 round faster than normal way. 3 round is best possible, but this mean you can,t get miss any double shots. Too hard for me.
I find eaiser way shoot first double shot. When boss died you can shot first double shot when core-x appear and is invulnerable couple seconds. This is still bit luck.
I need lot practice yet. Hopefully this your advice make my double shots bit easier. This is hellishly hard right now.
Thanks P.Jman once again.
That TRO SAX thing was news to me, main page don,t includes that. I using that Wassup dawgs method. youtube method is probably fastest, but it looks even harder than Wassup dawgs method.
How many seconds that under water wall jump is faster? I think if it is less than 5 seconds, there is no much reason use that, if you don,t really go try perfect run. TAS condition make under water wall jump bit faster IMO.
Nettori thing looks same as Wassup dawgs use. I am trying that couple times, some reason i always lose my healths, my spot is probably bit wrong. Wassup explode PB first before he come towards of sweet spot. It is probably faster use missile rapid fire if you have at least 40 missiles. There is one cheap spot what Kridly use his SS run.
SAX 5 charge shot method sounds like really interesting, i think TAS runs don,t includes that. It is one big time saver. TAS run use ice missile and charge combinations, but this not any faster IMO and it doesn,t never work for me.
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Next questions.
I have right now much trouble make double core-X shot with super missiles. I trying that at least 20 times, but it never working. Is this idea different shot Super missile double core-X shots? Normal Missile double core-X shots working very well yesterday. Super missile rapid fire is much slower.
EIDT: i finally manage double shot against core-X with SM. Took me over one hours. I think i never can apply that with speedrun. It is pure luck. SM rapid fire is very slow. Can peoples really apply that against everysingle fights? :-s
There must be easier way
You kill acid worm ice beam only right? You can get missiles when you go right or left corner room. Boss shots little stones. Kill stones and get refills. You need full amount energys always. Boss drops much easier missile refills if you have full energys. Wait as long when boss give you 4-5 missile and jump back ziplines and shot missiles towards of boss. Missiles are much faster than beams. You can kill boss in one-two minutes.
I don,t know help this you, but i hope.
Congratulations your 9% run.
Yeah i read that your route Bio spark. Questions time:
-How much SAX glitch save time in TRO? Is this better if  i use save before SAX glitch or i skip that glitch? I manage that yesterday and it took me almost 30-50 tries. I definitely need that save point before that. How much seconds save point took overall?
-Is this under water wall jump faster than normal route in AQA? I know TAS use that, but save that really any time. I can,t do under water wall jump as fast as TAS. It cost me bit. This not look any faster/slower use shine spark route.
-What you think save skip before first NOC visit. Includes Sector 6 any very hard/random spots where you need save? My opinion NOT. Perfect first shine spark of course, but it save at most 2 seconds. My opinion is faster skip save.
-Yakuza 2nd form. Charge or missiles better?
-Your Nettori method: Is this same than Wassup dawgs? or different? You talking about sweet spot, what is this? English-finnish translation don,t know much about this.
-My opinion it is better choise use save before BOX 2 than Sector 4 save. But yeah Sector 4 can bit faster, but it is frustrating IMO.
-What is that your SAX method. SAX 1st form 5 shot only? I need always 15 shots.
Thanks answers.
I need help. Mainpage don,t includes that.
Atmosphere after charge beam. Is this possible kill that only one charge shot on console. TAS kill that one charge hit only
TAS-video (part 2)
I trying that many times but i need always two hits. I jump towards of atmosphere and i jump again when Samus is invisble and i shot charge, but what i du wrong? Atmosphere don,t want dead. This save lot time. I use three hit method my 54 speedrun. This save almost 8- 10 seconds if one hit kill is possible. 2 hit kill is possible when i watch TAS video, but why one hit kill not???
EDIT*/************************ One round kill working, but it is so random IMO. I don,t sure how i did that. I manage that twice. Took always lot tries. If somebody want check how this working it can help lot speedrunners. I find fast 2 round kill too. This took almost 70 energy points (not good idea low-% run) This is bit slower, but not too much. It is at least easier IMO.
Jes double core-X shots finally working. :D I already doing that totally wrong. It was reason why it already never working.
Thanks P.jman and main page video.
I trying double eyedoor shot and double core-X shots almost 20-30 times, but some reason both trick never working for me. :(
Many peoples said Double core-X is very possible on console, but i do something wrong or my thumb are too slow. Is anybody test that how this working on PAL versio? Is there versio difference between PAL vs NTSC versio?
This is one very important speedtrick overall. It save alot time probably even one minutes if you use all double shots core-X speetrick. It is most important if you go try beat current WR time.
EDIT***************************: Thanks Pj.man. I see simupost Well nice know that eye door double shots thing doesn,t work. I go try again that double core-X trick. Hopefully it working.
This is one theory break Wassub dawgs WR under 50 minutes. I don,t any sure is all main page trick possible on console. BOX 1 & 2 looks really awesome. both TAS only tricks. And is double shot against eyedoor possible on console. Save bit time. Peoples said double core-X is possible. Why not double eye door shot?
Segment 1 -Eye door W/O beam shots took lot patience (Wassup eye shot 5 beams) -Archanus W/O wheel attack, just like Kridly SS run. Double X-shots after boss -You can get maindeck M-exapansion before SRX too, took at most 5 seconds, but it save time later game IMO
Segment 2 -Eye door W/O beam -Atmosphere kill one charge shot only -Save in TRO
Segment 3 -Complete TRO and save before boss -Eye door W/O beam -Max round boss & 2 round core-X -Save game before SAX?
Segment 4 -Sax glitch -Go towards Sector AQA -Save before Serris
Segment 5 -Boss in 2 hits & core- X in 3 round -Shine after boss -Shine after water levels -Third crazy shine -Most comfortable save game in PYR (bit slower, but not sub programs).
Segment 6 -Shines like Wassup dawgs. -BOX 1 really fast (possible on console?) -Shine after this -If you are crazy enought you can skip save before sector 6, because Sector 6 don,t includes manipualte luck spots -Save game before Core-X battle
Segment 7 -Core-X in 4 hits & mini core-X in 3 round -Save game?? -NOC end part requires lot manipulate luck enemys located different places your every attempt -Save game in sector 5? Probably not if you use save after Core-X.
Segment 8 -Simply segment, no lot luck spots here
Segment 9 -Escape
Segment 10 -Main deck time saver (NO wassup run): -Shine stop time saver -Go towards Sector 5 and go towards Main deck SA ship
Segment 11 -Get third energy tanks?? -Eye door 1 round -Mecha spider in first round. -And if you have missiles against his second form. Better than charge? -core-X 3 round -Shine spark? Save that really time? **P.Jman said it is slower use spark after Yakuza. -Pass SAX -Go save in TRO
Segment 12 & 13 -Nettori (if you have missiles at least 40 you can kill boss faster than Wassup dawgs) -Go towards of Sector 5. You can save game in TRO lobby, this make Sector 5 entrance shine sparks fasters made, because you can have max speed when you go inside sector 5. -Nightmare max round & core-X in 3 round -Go towards in under water area (save game or not??) THis not important save because under water area don,t includes lot luck manipulations spots -Save game in Sector 6 before BOX II
Segment 14 -BOX 2 watch mainpage -Escape 54-55 time remain -SRX-save game before gold pirates
Segment 15 -Break M-blocks your diffusion missiles -Gold pirates in one round -Eye door W/O beam shots -Ridley & Core-X in 3 round -Go towards main deck
Segment 16 -Sax -Escape at most 5-6 seconds possible improve wassup escape. I got 1.39 time remain Wassup 1.35. He miss shine spark
Clear time possible at least 49 even 48.
Long post, nice theory break current WR time. All current trick here. My own best time is 54 minutes. I don,t never learn cursed double core-X time saver. Some reason it is too hard, but i probably go practice that most important time saver.
Have anybody new ideas??
EIDT: I update my first post. -We know. Double eye door shot is not possible. I am pretty sure too double eye-X shot never will happen on console -I update P.Jman thing. Spark is bit slower than space jump after Yakuza.
Yes
New forum is open i see. This looks great as well.
I dislike avatar choice here. There is No any metroid theme avatars. Actually i find only music and actors avatars. :| I lose my current avatars when i update my profile.
Anyway. Hopefully Metroid choise avatars come up soon.
EDIT: i find one more weird thing in this forum. I create already one screenshot my 22% completion in post time topics Prime. This screenshot disapper when i log out. When i log in screenshot appear again. When somebody else create screenshots i can see everyelse screenshots without need log in. Weird :-s
I ensure this time saver.
I check Zoid any-% run and smilingjack13 low-% 22% run.
Zoid room took: 54 seconds with boost ball Smilingjack13 room took 1.04 minutes W/O boost ball. Last spinner raised 12 seconds slower without boost ball. This mean:
It is only 2 seconds faster jump into the bomb slot with any-% run. Too crazy on console and it  save only 2 seconds
People know ghetto method too. It save almost 5 seconds. It is fastest way complete geo core with any-% run.
But actually smilingjack geo core bomb slot stall is 2 seconds faster than natural way.
Natural route runs. How you define natural route?
This mean of course No sbreaks and No early items. Are you planned use speedtrick, just like EXAMPLE: you can get Plasma without spider track. This don,t break game boundary but it is one major speedtrick it save alot time. And allow you little speedtrick? (save at most 5 seconds).
No sbreak/speedtrick runs are really borring watching. If you planned made any video. 100% Natural route with speedtricks can be very interesting. Still i like much more watch Sbreaks runs.
I use that my any-% run. I get third energy tank and i use bsj right after morph ball tunnel. But this is harder than normal way, it is bit hard find that ledge. But hell yeah this save bit time. Pirate109 use wall triple bomb jump. Bsj is probably 2 seconds faster.
Bsj is still easier even bit faster here IMO.
Oh yeah. I miss/forget that pj.man torizo skip video in previous page.
Nate can put that in mainpage next.  This is one important speedtrick.
I use always bsj here. It is easier than ghetto IMO. But i think don,t any faster. At most 1 seconds.
Thanks Cpadolf.
Can you made video about this? Nate can put that in mainpage later. There is no Torizo skip video yet.
I really can guess it is very precise. I test once arm pumping and timing how much faster it is than regular run. It save almost 0.20 seconds per in 7 seconds corridor. My opinion it is very little amount time, probably i doing something wrong.
This surprised me when Pj.man said you need arm pumping when you skip Torizo on PAL versio. Arm pumping is very uneffective or i doing that something wrong.
I can still go practice that torizo skip. Probably best place is save in Crateria before Torizo and try that over again. I don,t have emulator right now.
Still it is bit weird, because arm pumping don,t really save any time. Know anybody how much arm pumping is faster than regular run speed? And i talking about PAL versio.
I finally have new quick time player update :P
New tricks give me lot motivation try one more speedrun yet in near future. Draygon quick kill and Phantoon 2 round both very amazing tricks ever. Both trick looks like insanely hard. Hopefully i have enought patience managed both tricks.
I can planned try Torizo skip too, but i don,t sure how hard this is.
Ok thanks.
Torizo skip is possible on console, but PAL versio only. Cpadolf know better. He is only one here who can apply that on console. He said using that even SS runs.
Arm pumping is weak on PAL versio. and doors open/closed slower on PAL. You not need 30 arm pumping per seconds here. there is different method on PAL, but somebody else can tell that better. I don,t never trying that.
Sounds nice, but where is Torizo skip? It is possible on PAL versio only. I remember Cpadolf apply that his speedruns.
EDIT: Phantoon 2 round and Draygon quick kill video doesn,t work.
EDIT: two Nothing new videos doesn,t work. Most old videos working very well, but some reason new videos not. I have same trouble in MP 3 page.
Yeah you are bit faster than me. My time was 16.10 before Tourian And 17.34 before MB and i don,t have full items. I remember i have 45/50 missile and 4/4 SM.
You can copy your 17.31 save file and go try towards of ending. You can get easily sub 30 if you made enought good MB & chozodia segments.
But this is your decision.  If you decide try imporve you  Tourian part again you have more better change get sub 30 minutes.
Welcome back Thomaz. It is time get sub 30 minutes now. You started that run over years ago.  You have couple seconds ahead my 29.55 run in Tourian, if i remember right. This is good change for you.
Don,t worry your skills. And don,t give up now.
Go go go
Totally amazing job Craztad.
This is news to me you have very good Super Metroid skills too. I need 44 minutes SS run it looks lot like you. PAL versio is almost 4 minutes slower.  If i can get 44 SS it is pretty darn good one for me.
Hey i have fast questions.
Running ingame timer when you go in door? Game dowload next room. Stop ingame timer between this?
I don,t sure. i think i want ensure this. I think TAS players are test that.
YEah of course i can improve my SS times if i working very much. But i don,t see any reason try beat SS runs very fast. It is very stressful job try made perfect SS runs. Game is not very fun if you try incredible speed without dying. This requires lot luck and many days.  :|
PAH :x
48 SS (PAL-versio)
-No my best, my current best SS time is 47 and segmented 45 minutes.
-This run includes very little amount mistakes, i think my previous minutes faster SS run includes more mistakes than this run. -My avarage speed is drop little bit after summer. -But anyway. Still very nice run, i get too much items just like last time. 6 et +RT and 55 missile max  took little bit too much time to get.
-Two major mistakes. 1-kraid quick kill miss. This not surprised i never managed that with SS runs. This is very presice and random trick.
2-Sand (little Draygon room) room in maridia, i miss space jump. And i stuck in sand pool, took me 15 seconds too much time
Many little things workin very well and i have good boss fights.
Nice videos Craztad.
Thardus room M-expansions is news to me. I am trying that dash manytimes. I have PAL versio i am trying Sheegoth dash. Some reason my distance is always too short. I was sure this never possible, but your video surprised me.
Right now i am learned lot high dashes, but that looks very long dash. Too hard, but i probably go try that again.
There is two more method get Thardus room M-expasnion W/O grapple.
1: Easiest/longest is Sheegoth jump (in main page) 2: Crazy ghetto jumps. I manage that twice, but it took always forever. I never can manage that with speedrun. +: US versio you have grapple beam you not need any specials trick here.
EDIT: I just test again that Thardus room dash with my new dash skills. But no way. Stupid Sheegoth walking always wrong places, i dash wrong spots or something.
But hell yeah i am pretty sure this can working PAL versio as well, but it is very hard. Can you try Sheegoth dash next Craztad?
10 deaths is pretty darn good i can guess. Hyper mode 22% SS is hard and long marathon. Sometimes SDA allow with deaths runs as well but i don,t know allow SDA with deaths run if ingame time don,t running when you death.
SDA accept SMB the lost levels Luigi run and it run was pure joke and includes 3-4 deaths, one just before finishing line. Game is short one too.
But anyway. Most of the time SS run idea is try complete game W/O deaths.
Shooting around area is very good idea guess all platforms locations and it is news to me.
Thanks Paraxade.
I know that water rain thing, but it doesn,t work very well in root cave, because rain hitting onto the only one platform.
Root cave missile expansions is possible get W/O grapple beam. I don,t know is somebody already founded that, but mainpage don,t mention that.
This not real speedtrick, because you not need that with your speedrun, you can easily use grapple beam your 100% run.
This is pretty hard trick and very uncessary too. Your must be use one very high and long dash across that long gaps. This took me while, because your dash must be that perfect. I manage that trick twice today.
I think you can get expansions W/O X-ray visor too, but it is hard time guess all invisble platforms.
BEst time natural route: 0.59 (PAL versio)
-13-segments -34% items -I decide try how fast i can beat game with natural route W/O sbreaks.
RULES: -I don,t allow any major room skips. I complete all rooms what you normally need your game. Example: i don,t allow wall jump shortcuts before speedbooster room, because this break game boundary and skip couple rooms -My items order is natural -No early expansions
I ALLOW: -I allow all boss tricks example kraid quick kill, barrier glitch, MB murder beam and etc....
-I allow all in room speedtrick. Example wall jumps, shine sparks & morph ball jumps
My natural item order was:
1: MORPH BALL 2: MISSILE 3: BOMB 4: SUPER MISSILE (SPORE SPAWN) 5: CHARGE BEAM 6: HI JUMPS 7: VARIA SUIT 8: SPEED BOOSTERS 9: ICE BEAM 10 SPAZER 11 PB (RED BRINSTAR) 12 GRAPPLE BEAM 13 WAVE BEAM 14 GRAVITY SUIT 15 SPACE JUMP 16 PLASAMA BEAM 17 SCREW ATTACK
BEst time 100% single segment: 2.51 (PAL versio)
-Wow my first SS run. I use pretty much same route as Pirate109 his segmented run. -This one is 35 minutes slower than my segmented run.
There is one reason why my run is very slow: :x -GTH bars took almost 20 minutes game time   :x This is very embarrassing because this normally took almost 30 attempts, this time this took almost 200 attempts. I manage that sometimes my first attempt in my segmented run. But this time i have so bad luck
-MY MISTAKES: -I miss Space jumps first once -Crossway missiles took 5 tries. This is embarrassing too because i normally manage that my first attempts -I falling 2 times in water in gravity Chamber. -Phazon prosessing center second visit cost me almost 2 minutes. I falling two times down. - One time i choose wrong way. This cost me almost 40 seconds
Good points -I have good luck in frozen cave -I manage hunter cave dash. my first attempts. -I manage Tower of light speedtrick W/O fallings -Good boss fights here. Thardus was even faster than my segmented battle, Omega in one round. Ridley was good one. MP 1: was amazing. Second form was pretty avarage.
I am enought happy overall. But GTH bars piss me off. It was too bad for me
There is one thing what i don,t understand. Why Hotarubi save animals?. This took almost 20 seconds game time.
I agree too 30.xx minutes is lowest human possible with NTSC versio, but it is so hard. Torizo skip doesn,t work here, but fast 2 round Phantoon battle can save 45-60 seconds. Hotarubi Phantoon was pretty slow 3 round, but well that was still great SS run battle. Phantoon is extremely random.
8% don,t really interested me. But still i am bit curious what about is that glitch, because it is news to me.
Somebody already mention it is space time beam what you need. Still X-ray scope is listed in list. Need you x-ray scope elsewhere game?
And is this that (video) glitch what you need if you want get 8% ending? But where you need X-ray scope? If you use space time beam you don,t need X-ray scope IMO. Mainpage don,t mention X-ray scope here.
Anyway
Is this that way get 8% ending? I watching that and it was nice.
Where you need that X-ray visor? It is listed in 8% run.
This topic includes lot information about low-% run.
14% is real low-%. What is that 8% run? Yeah you need some X-ray glitch here, i don,t know working that with console. I don,t never managed that glitch.
If you skip MB battle how you can activated last escape? Your must be skip that MB IMO, because you need 3 ET against rainbow beam. It is cool see 8% run.
But yeah 14% is real low-% run.
Nice run. I watch already multiple parts in youtube.
It is nice see. DS games is finally possible recorded. Hopefully we can see lot new DS runs in near future.
I remember this guy completed faster run too. He got 1.18.xx right? He don,t recorded that yet.
Lay PB under the pool where Omega appear. And when PB explode, rise up and change X-ray visor as fast as you can.
You know how Omega appear: 1: Omega never appear same pool  twice in  succession. 2 Omega never appear onto the pool where you stand.
It spot is hard find. Sometime PB caused more damage sometimes less. Your spot must be precise and your must be fast when you change X-ray.
You need 3 perfect PB hit against his X-ray form. Both: Normal & hard mode.
I delete my previous topic, because i planned manage Jelzap dash first. But why i delete it? I answer:
Jelzap dash working very well. But it doesn,t work with real speedrun, because Jelzaps appeared when you kill every previous enemy in the room. THis surpirsed me as well when i test that dash again my 22% save file. It is reason why i delete my previous topic, this took too much time kill all enemys.
But I don,t give up. I still decide find new alternate dash in frigate crash site. And i did it. :P
I am sure this way is bit easier than current flying pirate dash, probably only 7-10 seconds slower too.  I get that same idea with my previous Jelzap dash. But i decide use  flying pirate this time.
How you did that
1: easiest if you kill first pirate with plasma charge
2: Rise up onto the tree just like WR video. 3: Next: Try find one invisble slant onto the wall. walking be carefull and don,t falling down.
4: When flying pirate fly your over and it is opposite with you. Next your must be made simply dash towards of left corner
5: Try dash left side corner room. There is one little invisble slant.( LEFT CORNER).
6: Simply: jump onto the upper ledge and walking towards of door.
THis took almost 10 tries for me. It is harder than Jelzap dash, but idea is just same as well. If you have trouble made that. I recommend you practice that dash with Jelzap first.
If you manage Jelzap dash easily you can go try that. In my opinion this is easier way than very hard WR method.
Hopefully this working as well with speedrun. I test that my 100% practice save file. And it working very well, but it is bit hard. Your must be fast. Still i never managed orginal PAL fly pirate dash method. THis took only about 10 tries. I think this can bit easier and nice alternate way made this hard trick.
Yeah. I watching now that first part again. Last time my flash player have something technical trouble and it stopped after charge.
My flashpalyer are bit broken last three weeks. It sometimes stopped dowload too early.  At the latest 30 minutes flash video is too long watch.
I remember it was that new TAS what i watching. I remember your first TAS run escape was 48.xx. This your new escape was 49.01 time remain.
But yeah i can remember wrong too. :-s
Amazing TAS. I just watch it.
I watch that in youtube. I think you made some mistake when you recorded that. TAS part 1 ending when you get charge beam TAS part 2 start when you get PB. But this not very important.
It was so nice run, probably lowest possible. 23.5x is probably too hard even TAS. I know it was close. This is one coolest TAS ever what i see, just like ZM tas run too.
That Zebetite glitch is simple when you learn it.
I have much trouble first time too. Tonski tell me one important tips, now i tell this with you:
When you freeze rinka. Try jump spin jumps towards of zebetite. This is important: Don,t jump too high jumps. Your jumps must be low enought.
This was first time my big trouble, Tonski have already same trouble as me. But when you learn that it is pretty easy.
Congrats your time This trick can drop your time pretty much. You can skip many M-expansions and gltich itself save too.
Nice see Stefan you still working on your low-% run
Yeah i remember you already mention this your any-% run comments. Hopefully your insane low-% run is done somedays. I really want see one more low-% run by you.
Sub 1.30 must be so insane goal
Thanks Craztad. Nice see i am watching couple your run in youtube already. You are one very good RPime players.
Waveblaster dash is not very important. I manage that couple times my practice save file, it took always lot tries. R-jump is as fast method as dash here, i decide use that. Main page don,t mentions R- jump method??? :-s
Yeah when i jump Obsevatory dash i use Space pirate dash. I freeze lowest pirate first. When i dash: I push R button off after my dash. This bent my dash and especially it give me lot distance and bit heights too. But still heights is always harder. It took always restarts.
I have always trouble made very high dashes. EXAMPLE: I never managed vent shaft dash my 22% save file, luckily i learn that bomb jump here.
Best time 100%: 2.16 (PAL- versio) :P
This is my first 100% speedrun. It was bit slow. Route was unknow and much harder than any-% route.
I use pretty much same route as WR player. Couple route change too:
1: I get wave blaster much early. After i beat Sheegoth. I use floor skip speedtrick expect first floor (first floor is hard with PAL versio). Luckily 2nd & 3rd floor is easier skip when i find alternate R-jump method. Dash feel absolutely too hard apply speedrun. R-jump is as fast and easier IMO.
2: I get X ray visor before Space pirate frigate. I decide use that route because i need PB refills before Phazon mines.
I don,t use all crazy trick. I never use early artifact trick in Phazon mines. Actually i don,t understand how this working i died before i get out here. Still i have full 13 energy tanks, but my PAL versio is probably bit slow, because Phazon eat all my 13 energy tanks. Weird
-I don,t use hall of elders bomb jump. My succesrate suck here. -I don,t use Sesshoumaru  bomb jump, because it is hard and segment itself was hard too. -I don,t use Thardus dash because it is slower IMO. People ask why it is slower? I answer: It is slower because i need get that Thardush room missile W/O grapple. Sheegoth don,t appear if i use Thardus dash. -I don,t use grapple W/O spider trick. I fixed that puzzle, i timing it: it took 50 seconds-1 minutes game time. Not too much IMO)
I use still couple crazy trick. I use Observatory puzzle skip. It was so hard. i working that couple hours. It dash was very high But i finally manage that dash twice without dying and i was happy :P
Yeah this not very good run, but good enought for me. Looks lot like my Echoes 100% run it was 2.42. I perform lot hard speedtrick here. I get lot early expansions. THis run is overall good for me.   This took me almost 3 days.
Sub 2 hours must be very hard. But yeah i need spend much more time than 3 days.
This is most popular low-% questions. I think if you play hard mode. Easiest way is skip those pirates. Try find invisble ledges fast enought (watch low-% video in SDA).  This is not easy place, took easily many tries.
If you have US versio you can use alternate route too. You can use Mainquarry shortcuts. This route is easier but it working US versio only. If you use that route your not need worry about pirates never.
Yeah my jumps looks lot like mainpage video. I trying Pirate109 method too. Only what i need yet is that extra push after my second jump. I think my head not take contact with spider track.
My trouble is that bottom/lowest video. That jump onto the spider track, before grapple beam.
I think you need bit higher jump than L-jump ghetto. L-jump ghetto not give enought heights never. I trying that almost one-two hours. This is hard explains better. But i think i do something wrong, because many WR player manage that easily without dying but my jumps don,t give enought heights.
I know i do something little things wrong, but i don,t know what i doing wrong. Anyway
Thanks but i know two first floor. It easy W/O spider just like any-% & low-% runs.
My only problem is rise up onto the last floor. I need that trick only 100% run. First two floor is simple as you said there are that alternate method and i use always that. My only problem is:
LOWEST VIDEO here:
It never stay onto the track. Of course i can use alternate method too, but it is almost 1-2 minutes slower, i guess.
I have couple special ghetto trouble.
Regular ghetto jump is very easy, but this game includes couple special ghetto jump (doesn,t work same way than normal ghetto)
One special ghetto was gravity chamber ghetto. It took me first time while, but it was totally easy when i jump R-jump after ghetto. This not my trouble now but:
Still There is 3 impossible ghetto jumps yet, what i never completed:
1: Landing site ghetto (this not important, because this not really save much time, but i not never managed that)
2: Grapple without Spider ball (ore prosessing 100% speedtrick). It looks easy in mainpage, but ghetto don,t never give enought heights before last stairs. I working that yesterday almost 2 hours, but heights is too low. Main page video:
3: Quarantine cave (Thardus room) missile expansion ghetto. There is possible use ghetto just like Pirate109. This is absolutely too high for me. I working that almost one hour today. Mainpage don,t includes that speedtrick.  There is possible get that W/O grapple if you use enemy jump. This method is easy, but it is almost 30-45 seconds slower than ghetto.
What is that special ghetto trick what i need? I Probably going try 100% test run in near future, but i need some practice yet. Example number 2 is very important. It can save even 1-2 minutes game time.
Yeah This is only Prime series game where are low-% SS runs in SDA. Still not hard mode low-% SS yet.
Echoes normal 22% SS: I remember Rekamheos was pretty close completed that, i remember he mention, he use only one save point.  Boost guardian is not real trouble on normal SS. It is as difficult normal low-% as any-% W/O dark suit IMO.
But 21% in Echoes SS is absolutely impossible. Grapple skip is so random and if you miss that once your game is over. This never will happen.
Hard mode low-% runs in other primes must be cool. I really want see orginal Prime SS low-% hard mode run. My opinion it is impossible because it requires too much luck at one sitting.
Echoes 22% hard SS requires too much luck too. You need right refills drops against bosses, i really remember how pain Quadraxis was. I died mutiple times. Many dieds come when he drop wrong refills or i made some stupid mistakes. Normal low-% battle is much easier, because there is no crazy leg form.
But all low-% hard SS runs are incredible. If i understand right Paraxade try beat Hyper SS without deaths. This must be incredible, you not really need any checkpoints. Still i think, if this can be possible this is first SS hard mode run ever. This must be so cool.
Long post. Good luck your crazy run.
Heh and don,t forget mention he did that with single segment. Without save & without dying. Over three hours marathon without dying.
Wait: Hyper mode is hardest difficult setting & 22% lowest-% items? Right?
This is only low-% hard mode SS run ever metroid game history, congrats . I don,t have this game yet, that is why i ask. Sound like pretty nice. It sounds even easy, because this run took only couple days for you. Is game much easier than other Primes?
Nobody never can completed hard low-% SS on Prime and Echoes low-% hard mode challenge is impossible with single segment IMO.
Heh My AW skip skills working very randomly. Sometimes i have very good succesrate, sometimes very bad. Sometimes my succesrate is even 75% sometimes under 10%.
This is so weird, but i don,t 100% sure how this trick working. Actually i don,t know but i guess you need very precise timing lay bombs and of course bit luck. Especially SS run.
One nice challenge is:
Try get X-ray scope without Hi jumps & without ice beam and of course without grapple beam.
I get X-ray scope without Hi jumps but i still need that ice beam, because i suck bomb jumps. Still W/O hi jumps only was bit hard, took me while.
W/O ice & hi jumps must be very hard. But definitely possible if you are good enought bomb jumper.
Thanks Tonski!
Yeah 22% completion surprised me as well. It was so great see 22% ending.
My time was still pure joke. My run includes couple huge time lost: -2 minutes in ore prosessing (i miss power troopers skip. I kill both pirates. If you screw up that skip: Only way survive alive is kill both troopers) -1-2 minutes against invisible dynamo drone -2-3 minutes in PB maze -3 minutes in vent shaft -20 minutes in geo core (after 6 days and 50 hours i don,t see any points restart my game. 20 minutes pure mistakes was good enought for me) -MQA segment was 3 minutes slower than my any-% run. -1-2 minutes against Omega pirate -2 minutes NO Thardus dash -+Many little time lost everywhere.
Pirate109 run was pretty slow too. It don,t look US- 22% runs. My own last boss was whole 2 minutes faster than pirate109 battle.  There is very possible get sub 1.30 22% on PAL. But nobody don,t like speedrun 22% runs on PAL. It is pure hell . Pirate109 record is enought good. We all know Stefan can beat that easily because his low-% skills are very good.
Really nice SS run Secretkey. My own SS time was almost minutes faster than your.
Yeah i really know that Acid worm skip is really nasty one with SS run. It took always much restarting for me. It kill almost 5 my SS attempts. I did that once my SS attempt. It was my slowest SS attempt. But run was enought ok. Probably i can try 31.xx SS run, but Acid worm skip is good reason why i don,t like try improve my time. It is really nasty trick and bit random manipulate too. I never have good enought succesrate with AW skip. Still it luck time with SS run.
Still nice job and good luck your next SS run.
I play my ZM always my orginal GBA.
I suck this game if i don,t use my GBA
I am trying DS controlles too, but it is so horrible game play IMO. SP controlles feel like avarage. But yeah i don,t still like play with SP because it hurt my hands.
Thanks Secretkey. :P  I think if you want go try 22% run in near future. You really need some practice. Geo core & vent shaft, both trick took much practice first time. Especially vent shaft.
I never manage vent shaft dash, i working that 3 days. Bomb jump was luckily bit easier, it took first time almost 10 hours. Luckily when i learn that bomb jump this not too hard trick. Unmorph time is luck time and sometimes it can took lot tries.
Geo core is very random, but if you can du R-jump easily, you need luck only. I have very bad luck my 22% attempt it took me ridiculous long.  But you not need any special skills here. Patience is most usefull than any skills.
I wish luck, if you want go try that in near future.
*** Heh good reminder Rekamheos. Yeah i don,t mention that, because scan dash don,t made game much easier IMO.
Probably space jump first is bit easier, but this is not big deal manage combat dash method.
Doorway bsj is old thing. I like use that always in Furnace W/O spider.  But i remember S_E already find couple very weirds bsj spots in orginal Prime. Sorry about off topic, but you can visit in my topic next:
Heh Thanks your comments. Actually his 2 nd form don,t includes any music this time.
Thanks!
Yeah there is couple bit harder spot on PAL than NTSC:
-Ore prosessing: There is two power trooper in first visit (because main quarry door is locked -Ridley is longer -MP 1 you not can damaged boss when he use Tractor beam -MP 2 is Twice longer
-Easily hardest part this time was geo core bomb slot. It took me forever. Flaahgra segment took lot too, because it unmorph after Flaahgra caused always trouble.
Phazon first visit was very hard, because ore prosessing kill me often. I have very good luck in vent shaft & lifegroove in my run. Vent shaft took only one restart & segment itself was good enought.
-Last boss was incredible. It was borring & hard.
But anyway. This is pretty nice accomplishment IMO.  Who is next?
I find pretty avarage idea dodge his attack my completions attempt. +I have good luck too, boss never made crazy attack combinations.
Tractot beam hurt me sometimes, because that is bit randomly sometimes. But luckily this not hurt alot. I know how it is possible dodge, but i miss that often, because it spot is pretty precise. Yeah this beam itself not caused damage, but PRime sometimes caused.
Purple bombs is very dangerous. I died with purple bombs 90% my failed attempts. It is easy dodge, but sometimes, boss use crazy combinations what i already mention. And purple bombs kill almost instantly.
But luckily everything finally works. My run is complete.
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Screenshot is done in post time topic :P
JES JES !!!!!! :P
BEST TIME low-% 22%: 2.46 (PAL-versio) :P
-32 segment (31-save) (there was multiple very short segment, i get some refill and i use save after this) Run itself includes almost 25-save) Not too much IMO :P
-Screenshot is done. Watch down:
-My last boss was pretty darn fast. Actually 2 minutes faster than pirate109 segment.  I complete 2nd form my first tries, thanks my practice save file.
-This was very long operation. I working that one months. I started practice that after i complete my any-% 1.34 run. Run itself took almost 2 weeks. Geo core segment only, took 6 days.
This is finally done. I am very happy man :P
I want thanks these guys: -MR.X -Iowa -Stefan van dijike +Guys: Who give me motivations +WR videos in archive org/SDA
This is very cool run i think i don,t never want try that again . My time was bit slow, but still enought good for me.
I delete my previous post, i don,t need major help against him second form right now.
I test both form my practice save file (full items max):
I still uses only low-% items: I Check how hard/long this can be:
ITEMS WHAT I USES: 5-m, no charge, no beam combos 4pb & no thermal visor.
-I surprise i complete his second form without lose any energy tanks & W/O thermal.   His 2nd form is as long normal PAL as NTSC hard mode.
-First form caused me lot trouble. I never survive alive his 2nd & 3rd chambers my 22% save file. My 100% test attempt without major items took me over 2 energy tanks against his 1st form. +couple ultra energys
There is couple major trouble. His purple bombs drain easily over 50 energypoints. Energy orbs attack is even more dangerous than purple bombs. It took over energy tanks per hit even normal mode. :(
Energy orbs attack itself is easy destroyed with missiles but sometimes he shots purple bombs and energy orbs in same time. THis hurt me alot and it is even impossible dodge.
Tractor beam attack is more harder with PAL too. Because you don,t can hurt boss when he use that and this hurt always 10-20 energy points per hit. US-versio is once again easier, because you can hurt boss when he use that tractor beam.
************************************* And without major items segment/battle took me 22  minutes total completed. It was minutes slower than pirate109 battle
I lose 2 ET against him 1st form (+couple ultra energys 4ET total) I lose 30-35 energypoints against his 2nd form ( I have very good luck here, boss never change visor spectra before pool and i don,t miss lot thermal pool hits.
Still first form is absolutely hell. Second form without dying will be so tought time ever, i think you don,t can always have as good luck.
Wish me luck
I belive i never can beat this battle.
You need almost 20 M against glass and 30-35 against her eye. This not that very hard. If you use my methods: You can jump onto the MB ledge. There is very easy dodge bullets and eye beams
EDIT: Cursed simupost
Oh thanks MR.X :P
I wonder why nobody put that in mainpage :-s
I think this not that very uncessary. Especially SS runs, if you have bad PB refill luck before Omega. This is most important trick 22% SS run.
But hell yeah i don,t need that this time, because armor phase was pretty easy complete.
I have change get sub 3 hours 22% run if i keep my speed up. Next couple parts is very easy. But last boss will be real pain and long. 20-30 minutes i guess?
Yeah, but that is very nasty and long form. And borring too +I try still beat my challenge run fast enought, hopefully sub 3 hours.
Can anybody tell me how i can did that cheap method? I find that in Sparky old 22% run, but i don,t know how i did that. It looks very easy, but it doesn,t work. I think its must be pretty easy, because Stefan use that his 22% SS run.
EDIT: I complete Omega pirate after 2 hours. Still i dont know how that cheap method working. I use orginal method against Omega. Still i am curious what is that cheap method idea?
I have question about Omega pirate my 22% (PAL) run.
What is that cheap way his armor phase what many people use with SS runs? It looks like much Elite pirate cheap way, but it doesn,t work similar.
I don,t find that in mainpage and nobody don,t use that with segmented run. I remember this is only SS players method. But i don,t have time/motivations dowload any SS runs right now.
My questions is how i can avoid Omega shield attack his armor phase? How that cheap way working?
I know i can use PB method too his armor phase, but it is too frustrating manipulate PB refill after this, and i lose always 50 energypoint when i lay PB his armors.
Nice run Piccolocube.
If you practice that new route it can save almost 2 minutes. Hell yeah Transit station WO spiderball is very nasty especially if you have trouble made bsj. Watchstation is actually pretty simple, i can du that backward jump in the bomb slot almost 50% of the time. It took some practice first time.
Hall of combat mastery is very nasty one, but you don,t really need that, because that dark world route is almost as fast IMO.
But nice time Piccolocube 2.09 is very hardcore time. It is even better than Radix old WR in sda. Hopefully your goal next time is sub 2 hours W/O SW. But you need patience.
I think i have couple time saver idea with any-% run.
If somebody want try beat Zoid 1.03 run.
I think nobody don,t want use that, but it can save almost 10 seconds.
Is it faster if you jump into bomb slot in geo core in any-% run?
You lose almost 10 seconds game time when you rise up spinners with your boost ball. This my idea is crazy, but cool.
Second time saver what Zoid don,t use. Is it faster if you lay PB before you get X-ray visor.? My opinion it is bit faster  and it is pretty easy time saver too.
If you wait too much time, you need at least 8 missile against per each barrier. That 7 is minimal, but your must be shot your missiles fast enought.
When i play 9% PAL hard so i working that barrier segment two days, but i don,t never had enought luck break first barrier. Sometimes i got three refills, but always wrong places.
I belive it is most important. Your must be have always 99 energy points. If you lose any point your energy and if you have two missile max. Rinkas never drops missile refill.
I belive that method what you need is: Freeze 3 rinkas. You need very precise spots. Dodge all bullets and don,t lose any energy point. Kill all rinkas and if you have luck enought all rinkas drop missile refills. Shot 2 reload shot 2 reload and once again shoot 2, just what spineshark already said.
Now you can shot 8 missile per barrier. But this is very easily screw up. If you are too fast you get hit with refill too early. If you get hit with the bullets this took too much time. If you shot too slow you need more than 8 missile. I think 7 missile is near impossible with 9% hard mode, because that reload time took bit too much time. I think you need all 8 missile per barrier here.
I think it is very hard. But if you have very much patience/luck you can probably break that barrier. But there is 3 more barrier yet. I think that last one is very hard, even impossible on console.
Thanks. Now i complete life groove too. It took only about 30 minutes restartting. :P  I have very good luck here.
Now i don,t need that boost ball in the game. Next real runkiller is last boss. It can be very hard one.
How your SS run Piccolocube? Are you trying that yet?
You need 7 missile min against per barrier. You play 9% hard PAL. Seriously?
This is bit crazy run. My personal 9% PAL hard stop just in first barrier. It is near impossible beat that barrier part without TAS. You need extremely good refill luck and all refills must be appeared right spot & right time. And: Don,t never lose your energy points, because it drop your missile refill drop rate.
Good luck with your run. You really need it!
JES GEO CORE BOMB SLOT IS FINALLY COMPLETED
Took only 6 day and almost 50 hours total.
My last attempt surprise me , because i watch mainpage video very carefully. My last jump was right indetical as mainpage player.
I was close death against fly pirates. I lose 70 energy points here. Luckily i survive save my game 30 energy left. ************************************ Save 13: Time elapsed: 1.24 Magmoor after bomb slot. Save 14: Time elapsed: 1.31 Chozo ruins before life groove (13% item)
I don,t have very much change made video, because i don,t have any friend who can help me and i don,t have good enought video players in my room. :(
But what you think is it idea right when Samus stuck right under bomb slot? Is my goal try stuck Samus bit higher so he can go in bomb slot automatically?
I think that spot here, where you try stuck is not very precise. I remember Pirate109 video his hit is not that perfect. It was enought high but not very straight. Still it working.
I guess my biggest trouble most of the time is it: How Samus stuck into bomb slot? I think my jump have always much enought distance and i think it is pretty high too. I try always turn my face towards of bomb slot and i try unmorph right timing.
Still it sometimes stuck off pole, sometimes even very high. I don,t know how this stuck gltich working. I have couple theory. But who know?
I think i am pretty much facing of the bomb slot, i don,t know how precise it is.
Know you that glitch? Samus sometimes stop in the air when he getting contact with the pole. I don,t sure how this working.
Couple times Samus stop when she take contact with the pole. It never stay in bomb slot, because it place is always wrong. 4 times it was very close. Samus stop right under bomb slot.
Is it important unmorph before you getting hit with the pole?
I really want know what i du wrong. Today is 5th day try that cursed jump.
Hah hah that geo core is so fun
After 30 hours and 4 days attempts NO LUCK!
Yesterday i play full day with 60hz mode. Today i change 50hz mode back, because R-jump is at least 50- 75% easier with 50hz.
What hell is my problem. ](*,)
I think i stop my run possible soon. This is so fun: 4 full days, couple little breaks per day but no luck. I think this succesrate go into bomb slot is 0,00000001% change. I don,t can understand my luck last time. This took only 5 hours. Probably my succes rate was last time better because i was bit drunk. :-s
But i think i stop my run soon, if i don,t find that idea again. This trick eat 95% my time per day. This borring me seriously.
15th SEP********************************
Ventshaft segment is complete my PAL 22% run.
MAgmoor cavern time elapsed 1.04.
This was very big surprise. Vent shaft segment took only 8 minutes and took only one restart for me.
My practice save file it took almost 10 hours manage that bomb jump first time.
Next segment is geo core. I manage geo core trick first time faster than vent shaft. But i think geo core is much more lucky than vent shaft. You need more skill in vent shaft than geo core.
Wish me luck
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I´ve must be say i hate geo core :x  I am work on that 2 days and 5-6 hours total but no luck yet. I was very lucky my practice save file. Probably this took bit longer, because i restart my game after 10-15 minutes trying.
This is pretty weird how hell Stefan can complete that in 10 minutes with SS run and smilingjack even faster. I am jumping at least 100-200 near perfect jump, couple good jump glitch off the pole, just under bomb slot.
That glitch is very randomly but always i manage that wrong place. This piss me off.
After this: i´ve must be back save my game. Hopefully i don,t miss that. There is lot dangerous enemies, example three flying pirates.
I remember last 100% completions in this topic was by me 56.38 on normal mode. I complete that almost years ago. This was very cool time i don,t see any reason try improve that.
Thomaz complete his sub hour 100% run after my 56.38 run. We can really see, 100% is very unpopular category. Especially 100% hard mode.
Hopefully Dragondarch someday complete that 100% sub 55 minutes (what he promise his sig). I belive i never see that. Dragondarch still working on that Lufia run. He started that at least years ago. Hopefully he back work on ZM run once again in near future.
I just couple days ago find new Ruined Nursey speedtrick. Sparky doesn,t use that his 1.28 run:
I think normal route (WR-route) in SDA is faster than kraid first route. But i don,t know how much.
Expect Kraid first route & HBJ route is faster in hard mode, because you can pick up much more SM expansions. Tourian is much faster right now & MB too. I don,t know need you that screw attack with hard mode. Ajbolt89 get screw attack, i think it save multiple seconds in Chozodia & it is faster collects refills before barriers & MB.
If you get screw attack you lose at most 2 minutes game time. I remember that Ridley lair segment first part took almost 3-4 minutes with my 100% run and i collect everysingle Ridley lair items/expansions before save before Ridley.
Still 47 SS is nice time.
Hey Jaggerg. Are you planned seriously try & recorder hard any-% speedrun?
I think that kraid first route is bit better choise hard mode than normal mode IMO. I beat my current hard mode run with Transience/Ridley first route and i got 35.52. It is near 2 minutes slower than WR.
I have always much trouble skip acid worm with HBJ. I did that only once and it took me almost 2 months. Still i never can apply that speedrun.
ajbolt89 hard mode record can be too hard beat with Ridley first route. I think sub 35 can be possible with Ridley first. But Kraid first route is better choise here IMO, because you need much more SM fire power in Tourian. I am sure sub 33.30 is very possible. Even sub 33 will be possible.
You got sub 30 with normal mode (kraid first). Can you planned try that with hard mode? Even sub 33 minutes.
Amazing. Once again new sub 30 run. Even 3 seconds faster than my own record.
Jaggerg: I think that TAS route is not best possible with console. He skip Hi jumps and his route is probably pretty worst on console run. I think it is pretty hard try speedrun with TAS route and it is slower too.
I thnk that sub 30 is much easier with normal route. You are expect jaggerg, you are only who use kraid first route, but i think you get still Hi jumps items.
Thats right.   This not that too hard.
Spinner manipulation took first time almost 30 tries but second time it took only 8-10 tries. This is one spot, it can be took much restart for me.
I still belive it is easier up rise in life grove tunnel if you fall out, because you not need unmorph. I miss that vent shaft unmorph at least 10-12 times, because it is very hard & precise.
Anyway i don,t really need that UBJ skill here, because i can use double bomb jump. But MR.X is right this segment can be hard with 22% game itself. But i still belive it is easier than vent shaft & geo core.
Yes i can.
I think, this is now even easier than already, because i think i can rise up if i fall down. I finally learn that UBJ. Thanks vent shaft.
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Actually i am trying almost every style dash.
Yeah when i made dash normally. After it, i push analog stick back and after it: I jump backwards and now i add L button and i keep it off. I trying otherwise too. But nothing works.
I am trying bomb jump too. Multiple times. Regulary i have much trouble started jump. But if i have much lucky, my best bomb jump attempt ever is when i can get hit my 3rd bomb. I miss always two last bomb. I am practice that UBJ jump at least 3 months total, but i never find right timing put two last bomb.
This is really hopeless.  I wonder geo core bomb slot took only 4-5 hours for me. This can be took many months, without good method.
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I finally manage vent shaft without boost. I practice bomb jump method, because dash was too hard. Bomb jump took incredible long. It took 2 days and i play that at least 5 hours per day. Total 10-12 hours i think.
It was really hard, but i finally manage that. Now i can made all Prime trick. Theoretical 22% game is possible start now, but this can be pure hell, because vent shaft was extremely tought and geo core took much time too.
Well i think i can start new topic.
Metroid prime includes bsj jumps too just like Echoes. But there is no very much spot try jump that.
There is one very easy spot when you roll through to door and put bomb. And use instant unmorph after bomb explode. I use always that single bsj method in Furnace (without spider ball), because it is even easier than ghetto.
2 &3 bsj working very well in refleting pool, but stone toad ghetto is most usefully than bsj here.
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But yeah i belive you can find much more bsj spot around the game. I find pretty weird bsj spot today in furnace. I manage bsj front of the spider track. This surprised me, how i did it, but it doesn,t work again. I remember i push stick back much early than normally.
I remember Silent Echo found one more weird bsj spot long time ago: Read this topic:
I remember his bsj spot was very weird.
Know anybody weird bsj spot? It is easy find bsj spot in doorway, but this game definitely includes couple weird bsj spot, just like that S_E bsj spot and i found pretty weird bsj spot today in furnace.
I love see this run.
I watching your first 3 segments. This was amazing.
I really suck this game, i have much trouble beat this one first time. Game controlls are absolutely horrible IMO. My gorea battle took first time over 50 minutes and second time over 40 minutes. This is nice see your run. Because MP Hunter is very hard game speedrun.
Thanks your answers Iowa. :P
Still no way. :|  After three hour attempt. I still never reached ledge. I manage almost 15-20 very good/high dashes, but still it ledge located too high for me. :| I think i am pretty close, but i don,t know how close i am.
I watching pirate109 video almost 50 times. His method looks like very different than my. It looks like he never jump his second jump.
I test Stefan method too. 1: He dash first and next he push Z button 2: He continued dash, he get hit with the puffer and he push once again Z button and next he reached that ledge. Still i don,t never see what is this timing.
I have couple questions yet:
1: what is this timing where your must be use your second jump? This is very hard see that in video.
2: Push you analog stick back before you push L button again?
this is even harder trick than geo core IMO, or i do something little thing wrong. Who know?
Actually i watching that run 1-2 weeks ago. My opinion it vent shaft looks like pretty much same as Smilingjack method, but i remember he unmorh bit lower than smilingjack.
I don,t really have motivation watch that run once again. Know you, can i find your & Stefan bomb method somewhere else?
I trying many time that orginal bomb jump way.
AAARGH   I just trying watch that upper right video, but it video is broken. Actually both upper video is broken. lower video working, but it is orginal way. :|
Questions with Vent shaft dash?
I am really desperation, because my jumps is always very low.
What is this height secret? How i can jump enought high dash?
I trying 2 different dash style:
1: Dash without R-button. Just like easy space jump first dash. This not give very much distance, but height is once again my biggest trouble. This dash is easy control/stop.
2: Dash with R-button. Yeah looks like dash in MQA. Give very easily very much distance, but i have trouble stop my jump and heights is once again my trouble.
-I watch Pirate109 video. He use lock with puffer after his dash. Is it easier practice that with gas or without gas?
-Stefanvan dijike style, he push couple times Z button (map button) in the air when he dash. Make this jump easier?
I really need help. Bomb jump is too hard, because i never ever getting hit with last bomb. I think dash can be easier, if i find that height secret. Help!
I really need some special idea complete that power trooper room with low-% run.
If i understand Madzombie idea right he say it is easier kill troopers than skip. Right?
Seriously? Can you really kill troopers without energy tanks and without charge beam? It doesn,t never work for me and skip itself is so impossible too, because i never ever find that invisble ledge fast enought and troopers stop always that cursed backtrack jump.
I really want play that game with NTSC versio, because there is no troopers.
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Right now i need practice only two spot so i finally can start 22% run.
1: Ore prosessing Power trooper room. I need good idea, because skip method never working 2: Vent shaft: Bomb jump is absolutely too hard even impossible. I probably try practice dash method someday.
Everythink else working, even geo core & life groove, but both room can be hell with 22% game
Actually no 22% file. I try that my practice save file, i have 4 ET but i don,t use boost ball.
I working alot that geo core but it doesn,t never grap with bomb slot, i don,t know why hell it doesn,t grap, because my good jumps looks like Smilingjack13 jumps.  I have now at least 30 even 45  very good jump, but no luck. But i try and try and try. Probably someday i can manage that.
I remember when i practice Thardush dash first time, it took 3 days and almost 7 hours. Probably that geo core can be even harder.
If i can someday manage that geo core, i need practice vent shaft and life grove yet.
and of course Ore prossing without killing power trooper can be one run killer my low-% run, because i never manage that with my any-% (without killing troopers). Hopefully i can manage all trick someday, probably i go try 22% run in near future. We can see.
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HAH HAH HAH   it finally working. :P  I complete geo core bomb slot jump HAHH HAH . This was hell, took 4-5 hours. AMAZING!!!!!
Next i go practice vent shaft without boost ball.
Thanks Iowa. Yeah dash feel too hard. I just practice R-jump method almost 45 minutes and i was very close almost 10-15 times, but still it never grap with bomb slot. It is luck time i guess.
Wow geo core without boost ball is very hard. I trying that almost 30 minutes. There is two difficult R-jump before bomb slot and bomb slot is very tought too,
Biggest problem is that bomb slot:
R-jump method give easier height but it is very hard control that jump.
Dash is much easier control and it give very easily enought distance, but height is biggest problem. I don,t can dash high jumps. All high jumps caused extremely much trouble example: Tower of light speedtrick and Vent shaft dash.
Have somebody idea, how i can dash high dashes? Dash can be easier in geo core if i can get enought height.
News to me
Lance home country is Finland. Anyway. Welcome to finmetroid forum too.
Well anyway. It was very nice video.
I just finished watching SM hack impossible completions. Annoying all segments doesn,t working, example Ridley.
This was cool hack. This guy in Finland complete that sub 2.30. This is probably fastest completion what i see.
EDIT: Yeah you can find that video in youtube!
Thanks Sparky. Now i can know how Ridley fly by skip can be possible.
********************************************* Yeah i watching Sparky 100% run. His Ruined nursey M-expansion method was slower than my. I really surprised my new method is at least 5-7 seconds faster than Sparky 100% speedrun method.
Sparky don,t use that second invisible slant. I find that. This is new speedtrick and i am happy because i find new time saver. Read my previous post. If you want try that.
EDIT: This is good day. I find two new trick:
EASIER NO-DAMAGE FALL W/O SPIDER BALL IN RESEARCH ACCESS*******
RUINED NURSEY NEW M-EXPANSION SPEEDTRICK
Watch previous page in this topic.
Post 4th SEP************************ Yeah i have that same trouble.
There is one method, but it doesn,t work for me.
Are you watching Stefanvan dijike PAL versio low-% SS? There is one another method, but i don,t remember what it is. I want learn that trick too.
EDIT: 5th Sep****************************
I find new and easier way.
1 Jump over gaps and stay onto the ledge.
2 Wait couple seconds here. when you see two rotate disk and spider track opposite for you.
3: Look disks. After you feel your timing is good, jump down towards of spider track and go morph mode in the air and falling safety down throught both disks.
I test that and i falling safety down, most of the time. This way is much easier than main page method IMO.
30th aug post*********
Thanks Stefan.
That fly phase skip still interested me, because when i watch Zoid video it looks very easy. He shots only plasma beams against him and Rildey skip his fly phase
Is it that Fly phase skip 100% luck? or is it only very hard? I remember pirate trying that his 100% run, but he not never completed that.
EDIT: 5th Sep**************************
I probably found new speedtrick for 100% game. Ruined nursey Morph ball maze skip:
-You can get M-expansion without morph ball maze. -this is pretty difficult time saver, i think this is new, because Metroid2002 main page don,t includes that.
-There is two invisble slant. 1:onto the vine front of the door 2:front of missile expansion.
put one bomb when you are onto the last invisible slant. If you are luck enought you can get that M-expansion without MB maze.
I don,t really know is this new time saver, because i don,t never watching any 100% runs. But i don,t find that in main page, i think this can be new.
Yeah i am sure, we never see 36 minutes 9% time. It is only theoretical possible time with real time, just like sub 27-26 minutes is definitely possible any-% with real time, but nobody never can beat that as fast. Spidey Widey get 28.04 any-% and he said 27 is very possible and 26 minutes can be even possible.
Yeah My 9% run was very good. Still many spots can be faster here, if you are very patient:
-First segment can be 20-25 seconds faster. -Imago cocoon at least 5 seconds faster -Ridley can be 5-10 seconds faster -Kraid lair segment 10-15 seconds faster -Tourian second halfway at least 10 seconds faster -Barrier part, can be done even 20 seconds faster if you skip at least one more save. -Mother brain. What MR.X said it can be 30-40 seconds faster -Suitless samus can be done at least 6 seconds faster (if you skip that middle save) -Robot Ridley can be at least 5 seconds faster and escape too 5 seconds because i don,t get max possible risk against Black pirates. +I use 14-15 save. But you need savepoints, because this run is very random factor.
Yeah 39 is very possible on console. 38 high, i don,t know can anybody get that, because you need real perfect run. 36 is only possible with emulator if you don,t use slow motion but you need still save state.
Sub 30 can be done TAS only. Who know.
Very nice time Secretkey. :P
You got 4 minutes faster time than me. And this was your first run. My 1.34 was my third real speedrun.
Nice see your hard job is finally done. Can i wait your MP2 Echoes speedrun someday?
Any-% speedrun is over 10 minutes faster than 9% normal mode run.
I think lowest possible 9% time with human hands can be 39.xx. I think theoretical 36-37 minutes is even possible with real time if you use emulator and save state only. But nobody don,t can skip all save and get perfect fights on console. Because 9% is very random factor run.
Ridley cheap way is very easy even low-% hard mode.
Watch main page video.
New TAS time sounds like incredible. I watching that your old TAS almost 1-2 months ago, it was incredible too. Phantoon in one round ,Draygon shine spark and many little thing looks crazy here.
Are you planned post your new TAS in youtube too?
Congrats Iowa.   Two year is long time.
Your run is just as good as my own run. This must be very nice one.
Very nice. My time was 1.01 befor Omega. You have 3 minutes ahead my 1.34 run. You have really good change got sub 1.30.
go go go
Yeah R-jump/dash- Same thing.
Main page don,t includes R-jump method.
If you want see that, so watch Pirate low-% PAL run or Stefan low-% SS run. Both run includes that R-jump MQA method.
I test that yesterday, it working very well. This not too hard, if you can du that R-jump/dash.
If you want manage that you not can jump R-jump reach the ice door. Your must be find invisble slant before that. It is easiest explain if you watch that low-% PAL video, in the SDA.
Secretkey. You can jump R-jump too. It is definitely bit faster than Metroid dash with Zoid style
Stefan method really looks hard, but R-jump is almost as fast, probably only bit slower than Metroid dash with stefan style.
Heh i finally learn R-jump, actually it is pretty easy. It took much practice first time, but i finally learn it!!  :P
I have couple speedtrick questions, because i am curious.
1: First questions is frigate escape. When i watch that Stefan van dijike PAL frigate escape, i see he walking faster than me. He have always almost 2 seconds ahead for me, everytime before space pirate room.  I don,t make any mistake, but still that 2 seconds before first space pirate room sounds like impossible. His sub time was 6.39.8 and my best ever is 6.38.0
He use jump style move? Use he something special jump when he walking?
My best frigate is 4.13.8x time left. I think 4.14 can be lowest if everysingle part working as perfect as i want. It is weird. Stefan get 4.23. His everysingle room is almost 1-2 seconds faster than me.
Is it jump style faster than walking? I trying both style, but i don,t can jump as fast than Stefan.
2: Second questions. I am curious what is this Ridley fly phase skip speedtrick? Is it 100% lucky or can you control that?
I think it is at least very hard, because Zoid said it is very rarery. But my opinion it looks very easy, but still it doesn,t work never.
You are at least as good guitar player as Super Metroid player.
I watch/hear your street fighter songs. Nice job man.
I play guitar last time almost 7 year ago.   I suck about this.
Thanks Secret key. Still i am disappointment my MP 2nd form.
1: Yeah i use MQA metroid dash Zoid SS style.
2: I use only one PB his first form. It destroyed all piece his armors. I use Plasma beam against his X-ray form.
3 This time i was very lucky. I manage Thardus dash my 4 th attempt.
Good luck with your run too. We can see how fast you can are.
EDIT*****************************
BEST TIME: 1.34
-I finally get near perfect last segment (in 11 minutes). -Very good first form, i get couple ice spreader double shots -Second form was very fast 7 pool fight. I have good maniulate luck this time
-I am very happy my run now.  :P  :P  :P
BEst time 1.36 (PAL -versio)
-39% item: 50m 4et, 4pb -24 segment (23 save)
-I can say this is not my final time, my last segment was 2 minutes slower than last time. But still enought good i beat this in 13 minutes.
I beat MP2 in 7 pool. There is totally one big mistake, i totally miss one pool. And i have very bad luck, because he change always that visor, at least 3-4 times. But it is 100% random avoid that, because boss move very randomly around area and change that visor. I dont can control his moved and it took much times if i miss that.
MP 2 is hardest fight in Metroid  game history with speedrun, Because it is extremely randomly and extremely nasty boss.
-Overall this run is good. I use Thardus dash and many new time savers. My avarage speed was good enought. i practice lot time saver before i started run that..
Still i don,t enought happy my last boss. I need at least 1-2 minutes faster fight, but i need extremely insane amount luck. My 1.41 battle was really insane, i think i don,t never ever can get 11 minutes fight again, but i am happy if i can get 1.35 ending yet. We can see. Last boss really pissed me off, because it is extremely long, nasty & random factor fight ever.
Still run itself was very good IMO. I even workig that harder than my Echoes sub 2 hours completions. My run can be looks sub 1.30 with NTSC, because PAL is very slow and hard speedrun and nasty last boss is 50% longer here.
This is very nice job Piccolocube.
Sub 3 must be very amazing hard 100% goal just like sub 2 hours is amazing any-% normal goal.
But this your time is still very nice job. I got couple months ago 2.42 100% normal mode. This is much shorter run, because if you get dark suit later game you can save almost 4 minutes game time. It is near impossible with hard mode, because boost guardian is so hard W/O dark suit.
My 2.42 100% Normal route, looks like pretty much same as Sparky  2-25 route, but my route was faster too, because i use lot new time saver EXAMPLE: Sunburst W/O dark world and many new shortcuts. It was still bit who care run, because i was lazy manipulate pirate commando attack.
I don,t sure what 100% route you use, but i think you get that dark suit before Boost guardian, because your run is done with hard  mode.
Good luck with your next any-% run. Sub 2 hour can be very amazing goal, i really know you need good run if you want beat game sub 2 hour.
EDIT: If you seriously want got sub 2 hours. I post my any-% normal and any-% hard sub times in previous page couple months ago:
This can help you keep your speed up.
News my runs.
Save Magmoor cavern before Phendrana: 1.08 (5 minutes ahead my 1.41 run)
-I finally beat Phazon mines parts. It really was hell. MQA segment took extremely long to beat. at least 4 hours total. But it was one best segment ever in my run, i am very happy. I beat it in 4 minutes.
MQA dash, i use Zoid SS style, it was easier than pirate dash, but still i miss that multiple times. Biggest run killer this time was  Fungall hall A. Perfect L- lock jump took extremely much restarts.
I find easy way beat MQB fast enought, it was much easier and faster than my previous method.
Omega pirate in one round took only 3 attempt, but PB refill manipulations took longer.
Artifact segment was good enought but it took at least one hour to beat, because it is extremly random factor. I need manipulations PB refills & Metroid moved very randoms places and last frame perfect MQB l- lock jump took much restart, because it is hard and precise & randomly.
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Well i have 5 minutes ahead my previous run, it mean i can get at least 1.36. I can save almost 2 minutes if i use Thardush dash, it can drop my clear time 1.34. If i can increase my avarage speed little bit, my possible goal can be 1.33 MAX. We can see.
Hopefully i beat this run possible soon, because this game is hell.
Stefan explained R-jump for me, couple months ago, but i don,t never learned that. I practice 2-3 hours, but it doesn,t work never. He explained that something wrong or i du that wrong but anyway, but still it doesn,t work.
R-jump includes millions button in same jump, i don,t really be in time for push all buttons in 3 seconds.
I remember Echoes under water dash is one very hard trick too, sounds like much R-jump, because you need much buttons here. I can manage that, but always it took multiple attempt/restart, sometimes even couple hours with speedrun.
Thardus dash is one latest trick in the game. When you get out Phazon mines and when you collect two Phendrana artifact. You can use thardus dash. It save almost 1-2 minutes.
Normal route what zoid use. It caused bit back track, because your must be back Phendrana again, and get that third artifact here.
Thardus dash route don,t caused any back track, but it is extremely lucky time use that. It is near impossible with SS run.
This one took 3 days and 7-10 hours with my practice save file. This time i planned use that with my run.
It Chozo skip is pretty hard and bit randomly. Especially without dying. This took easily lot restart.
My time is now: 0.52 in Phazon mines. I complete very fast life grove segment in 2 minutes. Right now i have almost 4 minutes ahead my previous run (possible goal 1.37)
Last time i don,t use Thardus dash it can save 2 more minutes. When i practice that trick, it took 3 days and i finally manage that. This can drop my time at least 1.35 if every little thing working.
We can see. I can miss my run anywhere else, if forget something or if i am too lazy.
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Hey Secret key. Use you that Tallon over world flying pirate dash?
I don,t use that, because it is so hard/impossible for me. I use that same route as Zoid his SS run. This is at least 30-40 seconds slower than pirate dash, but much easier.
How your run doing Secretkey?
I got 50 minutes in Chozo ruins after hall of elder artifact.
I have 3 minutes ahead my previous run. And i am only 5 minutes behind Zoid old 2004 WR (1.17 run) Theoretical 1.22 is possible yet, but no way!   because i have much slower avarage speed than Zoid. I really surprised if i can get 1.35 or lower.
Geo core segment took forever time, because i practice new time saver in Phazon center (i don,t kill turret). Geo core itself ruined my run 90% of the time. This one took at least 2-3 hours to beat, but overall i am happy, because i complete this segment in 6 minutes.
There is only one big mistake. Ghetto before plasma took 3-4 tries, but anyway, luckily many little things working.
Sounds good. Finally somebody try speedrun Echoes.
I really feel that hard mode is really hard speedrun. When i complete my current hard mode run, my Agon segment suck too. Luckily many things working in later game.
100% is much harder than any-%.  When i beat my 100% normal run, i got that dark suit later game (after light suit). But it is almost impossible get that with hard mode 100% run, because Boost guardian can be real pain without dark suit and hard mode.
Good luck with your run.
Sounds very nice Secretkey.
I have once again trouble Phazon mines segment. I try that ore prosessing up rise without killing troopers at least 10 times, but always i miss that and i died. Probably it is better idea kill troopers next time.
I don,t never can understand how Zoid can complete that room without killing Troopes his SS run. It is absolutely impossible for me.
Yeah i finally manage elite skip. It is good place try improve my current time.
HEh still i´ve must be say. Orginal Prime is really hard speedrun. Echoes is hard game too, but still much easier IMO.
When i lay bombs i use my Thumb.  Yeah i moved my fingers pretty quickly after bombs explodes i push back and unmorph and jump.
This took practice first time. I remember when i practice roll jump first time, over years ago, it really hurt my hands & fingers. Double bsj never hurt my hands, because i learn that much later than roll jump. Actually double bsj is still bit easier IMO.
35! MINUTES PAL?
I really want see this one. Cpadolf say PAL is 3.30-4 minutes slower than US versio. I can think 35 is lowest possible time on PAL.
Looks like 32+4=36 mintues
Your run must be looks 31 minutes in US- versio. It is one minutes faster than Hotarubi WR.
I remeber Azor got 31 minutes with NTSC, he don,t never recorded that. If you recorded that PAL versio run. It is even cooler than Azor run, because PAL versio is harder too.
Good luck with your, near impossible run.
My way is simple. My right hand - Forefinger push X button (unmorph) - Thumb push B button
And left hand fingers move stick back
Double bsj timing is not that too hard. When you learn that, this not that much harder than single bsj timing. Roll jump timing is harder, because it is really precise.
I wish good luck.
Sparky wrote****************************:
directly in front of the pirate's line of sight is a trigger that will start the attacking. what you have to do is jump past that before it is activated, or just never cross it. for the first fight, in speedruns the player immediately heads toward the far wall, and if you make it quick enough, the pirate will never attack. if you head straight toward the pirate or the opening in the wall, you will pass his head to0 late and start the attack. so what you want to do, at first, is head directly to the wall, perhaps halfway between the hole in the wall and the corner to the left, and then start rapid missiling. at this point, move forward to the hole, and keep circling around him, but never stand directly in front.
for other pirates, just dash to the side as soon as the fight starts, and missile them while never crossing directly in front of it.
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Your must be dash when elite pirate battle started. I have that same trouble couple months ago.
Hey MR:X. Nice see your first speedrun in near future. You beat low-% hard in PAL, i think your must be have incredible skills play that game.
Yeah i am happy i got 35 minutes in Phazon mines. GTH bar bomb jump in first attempt. This took almost 2 hours. Segment itself was avarage one, but anyway. I have 1-2 minutes ahead my 1.41 run.
Your Phazon mines segment is very amazing. I think you are 2 minutes faster than my time ever.
I think i can improve my time here. Last time i don,t skip elite pirate battle, because some invisible wall stop my jump always. I promise try that this time seriously, because it looks very easy.
Second real big time saver can be ore prosessing. I have really much trouble up rise here without killing power troopers, last time i kill all troopers and this took at least 20 seconds.
Right now i have trouble jump over the GTH bars. LAst time i complete that segment in first attempt and i miss bomb jump only two times. Today i have bad luck here. This jump took always forever.
I have 2 memory card but my both cards are fully.   i´ve must be buy new card someday.
PAH!
I just lose one minutes game time, because my long segment was bit too slow. My time is now 34 minutes in Chozo ruins before GTH Bars. This is only 1 minutes faster sub time than my 1.41 run. I lose one mintues here.
I really have good reason blame that because this game don,t includes copy data.  ***************************************************
Thanks secret key. :P  You are still 3 minutes ahead my current 1.41 run.
2bsj & 3bsj give same more heights IMO.
Single bsj and 2/3bsj idea is pretty much same than single bsj.
That Transit station PB pit up rising is bit randomly, because you need much heights.
My method Transit station PB pit up rise= when i lay three bomb i lay that second bomb bit lower than normally double bomb jump. When second bomb explode push back and unmorph. If bsj don,t give enought height, use screw attack after your bsj.
Double bsj camera spot is bit different than single bsj. And timing is bit harder too. Still timing is not as precise than roll jump timing.
Hopefully this help you. You find that bsj method in M2k2 main page too.
EDIT: It is possible complete transit station bsj with 2bsj too. I test that. But it is easier lay three bomb IMO:
Good luck piccolocube. SS runs sounds like crazy. I not never can beat SS run without spider ball, because bomb unmorph after flaahgra and MQA dash kill me very often. Omega pirate is very hard too.
I started speedrun segmented run. My time is 0.19 in magmoor cavern after flaahgra & artifact. I am 3 minutes behind Stefan van dijike PAL WR time. I´ve must be say Stefan is darn fast guy.
I hate that game because there is no copy data. I can miss my run anywhere else. hopefully not.
I am pretty sure piccolocube try speedrun that game in near future. He is pretty talented Metroid game speedrunner.
Congrats Tonski. This your time is awesome, absolutely awesome SS run. You are forget update your profile yet.
Best time single segment: 0.47 (PAL-versio)
-Tonski ask me try any-% SS run. He want see how fast i can beat this run.
-This is my first any-% SS in the game. This not my first SS because i complete two previous 100% SS runs couple months ago.
-34% item (50m 20sm 5pb 6et 1rt)
I get much more energys and missile fire power, because this is SS run.
-I made many mistakes and i don,t get much amount risk.
-Many part can be done much faster. Phantoon took too much time, because i have bad manipulate luck against him.
-Overall this run is not that bad. There is no major mistakes. Of course there is much amount mistakes, biggest one is definitely Phantoon battle and kraid quick kill miss. But kraid quick kill is very rarery on SS run, i miss that but this don,t surprised me.
I am happy my run. This is only 2 minutes slower than my segmented run. Definitely i can improve 2 minutes very easily, if i get much more risk and if i have better luck against Phantoon.
1- I don,t know much about this. But Zoid miss both Twin fire tunnel R-jumps
2- He use dash jumps method in MQA. R-jump can be faster, anyway.
3- He skip frozen spike tunnel with dash jump. Stefan use R-jump here. I find that invisble ledge here. It is definitely easiest method.
Zoid miss all R-jumps. and he use always alternate method with R-jumps places. It really looks like: Zoid is bit worse R-jumper. But anyway, i don,t really know how good R-jumper he really is.
I finally watching Zoid PAL 1.17 SS run. :P
It was really cool one. Still 1.07 NTSC looks like bit better IMO. Yeah but i understand. PAL is bit unpopular and much harder speedrun, especially SS.
-New MQA method was great find, it even looks bit easier than my own space pirate dash method. This was bit faster than space pirate dash too.
-I like his Omega pirate battle, because Omega pirate is very randomly. There is NO pool order IMO. Zoid guess all his pool without dying. I don,t know how he can guess that pool orders with SS run. But i don,t understand that, because when i fight against Omega my pool order is always different. Took easily 1-2 hours beat that in one round and i lose always 3 energy tanks against him. Zoid have only 1/3 et against omega. This was very nice battle.
-Zoid is dash jump masters. I really like watch his dash jumps. He manage much crazy/almost impossible dashes without dying. But i really laugh when he miss always R-jumps. I see that R-jump is very hard one, because Zoid miss that always. Me too have much trouble made that. I can du that 0% of the time. I`ve must be say Stefan is best R-jumper in the world.
-Meta ridley was good one, but i think this not any faster than my own battle.
-Metroid Prime is possible improve too. He have bad manipulate luck against his first form. He miss always ice spreader double hits, because ice faces was always last one face.
-2nd form was very good one. Stefan battle was in 5 round Zoid in 6 round and my own personal best is in 7 round.
Overall your run is mastework Zoid
I think your must be faster. My time was 1.05 and i use 19 save points. I lose at least 2-3 minutes when i use my save points. 1.02-1.03 is very possible SS goal with PAL, if you have insane amount luck and master SM pal versio skills.
Even sub hour can be possible with PAL, but it is too hardcore for me and it looks like 52 min run with NTSC. Blue glass SS goal is 52 minutes and it looks like 58-59 with PAL.
Doors open when you beat game.
If you need energy against bosses you can find recharge room in main deck.
EDIT: If you speedruns 100% run your must be avoid that last navigations room before item collections because it locked all sectors doors..
Thanks Lance. :P
I remember Cpaldof give a list version difference PAL vs NTSC.
-I don,t remember all version difference. But biggest pain is definitely that when doors open slower and stopped easily your full speed. This made game much harder speedrun with PAL.
-Lava room lava rise much faster PAL than NTSC. You not can use morph ball here.
-Arm pumping is uneffective with PAL. This not really save any time. At most 0,20 sec per 7 seconds long corridor.  I timed this.
-I remember: Tonski said that shine spark end bit too early with PAL.
I don,t remember all possible versio difference. I think Cpaldow know much more versio difference than me.
Best time 100%: 1.05 (PAL-versio)
-5 minutes faster than my previous -20-segment (19-save points)
-This is very good 100% run with PAL versio. I use lot new time savers first time in my life. I less 3 save points.
-I use shortcuts after Torizo -I use gate hater -I get Wrecked ship energy tank without gravity suit -I use mock ball out after etecoon PB
-First i decide use Phantoon 3 round battle, but always 4 round battle was faster way. My best 4 round battle was extremely darn fast one. All eye open in 2-3 seconds and i don,t miss any shots. It was reason why i use that save before ET, because i miss that ET almost 75% of the time.
-Botwoon in three round, and i less Save points before Draygon. Draygon was good one. He use one more attack, but i don,t care because this is 100% random avoid.
-I use at least one more new shines, example i use shine after golden torizo.
-I use Murder beam against Mother brain with Hotarubi style. Hotarubi Style is slower than Scarlet style, but it was most safe, because i skip that Tourian energy recharge too.
-Avarage segment took 1-3 hours complete. Couple segments took really long. Segment 3: Green Brinstar-Green Norfair took 2 days, because Kraid quick kill is very hard and frustrating because i skip Kraid lair save.
-Phantoon segment took very long too. Phantoon is hardest and most randomly fight in the game. Finally i got absolutely perfect 4 round fight.
-Early spring ball segment took very long time to beat, but it was almost best segment my run and it is one hardest too.
-This run was very amazing and my time was very high 1.05.5x. This is probably my last 100% segmented run ever. My run was done with PAL versio. PAL versio is much harder and slower too. I can think this looks like even sub hour with NTSC.
Yeah when i talking about hard tricks i don,t mean TAS tricks.
Almost all TAS tricks is impossible apply on console, just like example Super Metroid Phantoon 1 round on console is 100% impossible!!!
ZM horrizontal bomb jump across rio room on console is impossible too.
There is tons impossible trick what you can do TAS only.
My topic idea was: How much hard trick you find console only.
This took first time almost 45 minutes jump over the bars. But right now this is pretty simple trick and this not caused trouble when i learn that idea.
I remember Calfoolio (first WR player) He said that double bomb jump off the ship trick is hard. My opinion this not too hard. It took first time at most 5 minutes. Right now i can du that pretty often and easily without dying. I really surprised how easy this is.
But yeah i don,t need that trick because dash jump is much faster way. But i think this not much easier than DBJ
Incredible job MR.X
REALLY INCREDIBLE!!!!!
I feel my Echoes 22% hard mode completions feel likes much easier  than your Prime 22% hard mode PAL accomplishment:.
Orginal Prime is much harder game complete in low-% than Echoes, because there is many difficult tricks and incredible long and hard bosses just like last boss.  I lose always energy tanks against bosses even normal mode any-% run.
Nice job man. I wait your echoes low-% hard speedruns next. You can beat my time easily here.
My best frigate escape is: 4.12.1x time left. (PAL-versio)
-I complete frigate escape at least 30 times today and i got 4.09- 4.10 time left very often, but finally i got 4.12.
Stefan PAL versio WR record is 4.23.70. I really wonder how it is possible.
I watch his video couple times, but still i never can beat that. I think lowest possible time for me can be 4.14 at most 4.15 time left. But i think this not never can happen any faster.
what is hardest metroid game tricks/sbreaks ever in your opinion?
My opinions:
METROID (NES)**************
-There is no very difficult tricks. Early varia suit (without hi jump) caused bit trouble because it is bit randomly time get enought height.
-One boss run is very hard too.
-Game itself is hard speedrun because i died very easily here.
SUPER METROID (SNES)**************
There is lot hard thing IMO.
1-No/boss/suit run inculdes almost impossible tricks. Red Scarlet is master
2-Horrizontal bomb jump is insanely difficult. I don,t never can across water pool before wrecked ship without shine spark
-Horrizontal shine spark in the air is bit randomly apply speedrun. Luckily i don,t need that very much
-Gate hater took first time very long time manage, but right now this not too hard. I can made that 25-50% of the time
-After Torizo shortcuts is hard too. I finally find much easier way made that. I jump two wall jump and i put couple bomb in the air
-Super quick charge is hard too. Luckily i find easier way made that.
+++BOSS TRICK++++++++
Botwoon quick kill is absolutely impossible for me. My best battle ever is in two round.
Kraid quick kill is very hard too. I can du that 10-20% of the time.
There is definitely much more hard tricks what i forget mentions.
METROID FUSION (GBA)***************
-Many boss trick are hard especially couple bosses are very hard beat fast enought in low-% run. EXAMPLE: Big core-X, security robots & Yakuza are very hard beat fast enought
-It is very diifficult time stoped shine spark just when you falling on the ground. Example Sectror 3 PYR entrance s-spark.
-Pass first SAX attack with wassup dawgs style is impossible for me
-Secret message is very hard too, but luckily i don,t need that
METROID ZERO MISSION (GBA)************ -There is no much hard tricks.
-Acid worm skip is bit randomly.
-Horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool is very hard. Hardest trick in the game.
-ONE NO-boss run M- expansion caused bit trouble.
- 9% hard mode PAL: Zebetite segments feel impossible. I don,t know how many can beat zebeties 2 missile only.
METROID PRIME (GC)********************
-Probably hardest metroid game speedrun.
-Hundred things are impossible for me. Just like example boost ball skip and R-jump and couple frame perfect dashes
-This game don,t includes very easy things. Almost every single trick caused bit trouble for me. Still i can apply WR-route when i speedrun, but many part took hundred restart.
METROID PRIME 2 ECHOES (GC)*****************
1-Grapple skip is only impossible trick for me. Max distance scan dash is bit hard
-There is lot manipulate luck base trick example hall of combat mastery, took easily many tries.
-Sunburst without dark world is very annoying too
-Under water dash caused always trouble. It is main reason why i don,t try speedrun SS runs
-Agon beam ammo speedtrick is bit randomly. Right now i can du that almost  10- 20% of the time.
-Transit station is bit annoying apply speedrun.
-Roll jump caused sometimes trouble, but sometimes when i have good day i can du that 90% of the time. Sometimes when i have bad day, that caused bit trouble.
+++++++BOSS TRICKS++++++++++
1-Boost guardian in one round kill is impossible for me. I can du that 0% of the time. My best attempt was when i drain 90% his energy in one round.
2-Bomb guardian in two round is very precise and hard too
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Well. Thanks!
Very nice job rekameohs.
4 minutes faster than my own.
This is hard job. I probably want improve that someday. I practice lot new time savers after i beat my 1.58. But i have very good avarage speed and boss fights in my 1.58 run. Probably if  i use all new time savers what i practice, i can get at least 1.56 or bit lower. But all my boss fights was very good job. It is very frustrating try improve that.
Still 1.54 is very amazing time. I am pretty sure i don,t never can beat that.
Best time: 0.45 (PAL-versio)
-2 minutes faster than my previous -15 segment -27% item (30m 15sm 5pb 5et)
-This was pretty good run. -Not best possible because i don,t use all possible trick here.
-Almost weeks-two ago/when i complete my any-% run. I started speedrun new 100% run. I use much good/new trick here just like example i use after torizo shortcuts & gate hater.  Both trick took lot practice but i finally can manage both trick almost 25%-50% of the time. I have 14 min and almost 50-55 seconds over in red Brinstar save. This is very good with PAL versio 100% run. This is only 8-12 seconds slower than my current any-% run sub time.
Right now i really want know what is that Phantom 3 round kill. My battle is always 4 round. 2 round kill is too hard & almost impossible on console. 3 round kill can be possible if  i find that idea. Phantom always disapper when i shot 3 regular missile.
1 round: Wave charge and 3 regular missile 2 round: Wave charge and 3 regular missile 3 round: wave charge and regular missile 4 round wave charge 2 regular missile and SM shot
3 round battle feel impossible yet. Ive must be watch scarlet video. She use 3 round methods (if i remember right). But nothing works for me. 3 round not working :x
I find alterante method skip frozen spike morph ball tunnel on PAL versio.
This method is millions times easier than current WR method. I trying WR method almost one hour and i manage that only one time, that R-jump is extremely darn hard IMO, it doesn,t work never. But my own method is pretty easy.
Jump onto the invisble slant and jump again onto the upper ledge. This is almost as fast as R-jump method, but much easier way skip that morph ball tunnel in frozen spike. Nice trick IMO.
I timed this. This is 6 seconds faster than orginal way. Morph ball tunnel route took 10 seconds, invisble slant jump took 4 seconds.
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Is anybody trying ghetto method in vent shaft half pipe without boost ball? I am pretty sure it is possible. I was very close couple times. I think if you can made max heights getto jump, it is even possible across vent shaft half pipe with ghetto, without boost ball.
Questions about bsj.
Can you manage that bsj jump other places than front of door?
When i going in door it working only here. But can you find right camera spot elsewhere, just like Echoes bsj?
There is two video, but both bsj is maded front of door. Is it possible elsewhere?
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I find couple alternate method use bsj. Furnace without spider ball. Jump single or double bsj onto the hole. This is very easy, probably even easier than ghetto.
Refletic pool bsj. Jump bsj onto the upper ledge front of door. This is pretty difficult place, because you need max heights double bsj jump
I don,t know is this much faster but it can save 2-3 seconds.
I find bsj method in reflecting pool (stone toad room). Jump double bsj onto the upper ledge front of door. You don,t need toad ghetto and this can be save little bit time.
This not too hard, but it took couple tries first time.
Thanks rekamheos
I think 5 is not too much for me. Probably i can skip that vent shaft energy tank and i can get that chozo ruins energy tank later game, because when i get that before Flaahgra it caused lot back track.
I get
1: Main plaza 2: Energy tank after morph ball bomb 3: Magmoor tunnel energy tank before Phendrana
I really need three tanks here, because it is long segment. It took many deaths and i finally survive only 38 E-point left. Sheegoth adult drain lot my energy and next part is magmoor cavern. It is faster across lava pools with boost ball and it drain lot energy. Second reason why i get 3 tanks is Phazon mines. Phazon mines is very difficult especially PAL versio, because your must be use that orginal route your first visit.
4: I get that vent shaft energy tank. I get that because MQA segment is too risky. When i beat that segment i have only 80- energypoint left. But yeah that is probably good idea skip next time, because i don,t really need that if i have enought luck.
5: After Omega pirate.
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I get ice spreader because last boss is couple minutes faster IMO. Because i have PAL versio, rapid missile method doesn,t works against Meta ridley ground form, and i don,t lose my missiles here. I use plasma method and this don,t takes missiles.
I have always 50/50 missile before last boss and it is good reason use ice spreader.
Best time: 1.43 (PAL-versio)
-Well this is 10 minutes better than my previous run -40% item (5et, 50m 4pb) -I skip spider ball once again -I made much cooler segments and i avoid almost all major mistakes. -My avarage speed is probably bit slow, because this game is very difficult speedrun.
-I less two save points. I use 21 save points. It is not too much IMO.
-Same route as alst time. Same as Stefan, but i don,t use thardus dash and tallon over world shortcuts
-I decide use pool glitch against  MP2nd form. Still i bit wonder pool gltich is not as effective than stefan. My battle was in 7 pool, stefan battle was in 5 pool. Last boss segment itself took 13 minutes as long as without pool gltich. I think lowest possible ending time for me can be 1.41 if i have crazy luck.
My goal was sub 1.40, i am bit dissapointment. I don,t really want started new run, because this one was pretty good. My biggest time lost was probably MQB, when i miss L-lock springin jump 4 times onto the upper ledge. But i don,t restart my game because MQA dash took almost 2 hours manage without dying.
This game was very taxing and difficult. Avarage segment took almost 1-2 hours complete. But well i probably try find that most effective pool gltich, Stefan last semgment was 7-8 min my own 13 min.
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Best time: 1.41
-Last boss in 11 minutes. I am pretty happy my MP 2 second form because pool gltich working pretty good, still i can beat him one pool faster if i can made perfects hits.
First form was good enought. Second chamber was pretty descent when boss drawing ice fases latest face. It was reason when i don,t can use ice spreader double hits against his faces. But third chamber was good enought and fourth chamber was very avarage/good. Theoretical 1.39 is possible, but i think i don,t never can have as much luck manipulations here.
Thanks MR.X i know that now. Thanks.
yeah i don,t have SM right now. I´ve must be use Stefan method.
*********EDIT 8 TH JULY******************* +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bit questions about MP 2 nd form pool glitch.
There is much informations about this
Working that without ice beam? every runner use ice beam, but there is no mention need you ice beam and can you manage that with power beam too?
I have very much trouble shots ice beam phazon shots, because it don,t want shot. Power beam phazon fire is much easier than ice beam.
My second trouble is it, when boss don,t want create new pool fast enought. I don,t know, i watching video almost 100 times, but i still doing somethink wrong here, because he create pool much slower.
I am very lazy practice that glitch because everytime i,ve must be beat his first form again and it piss me off. It is only hope i can get sub 1.40 run this time if i can manage that glitch. It save almost 4 minutes game time.
32.23!
And it was bit worse. I made 4-5 better SS attempts but always i miss acid worm skip. That 32.23 was slowest my SS attempts but i manage that cursed acid worm skip here.
But congrats MR.X you are faster than me.
My times PAL versio. My new updates
ANY-% Metroid 1: 15.00 (i am complete but i,dont never speedrun) Metroid 2: 20.00 (I don,t have that game) Super Metroid: 0.47 Metroid Fusion: 0.54 Metroid Zero mission: 0.29 Metroid Prime: 1.53 Metroid prime 2 echoes: 1.58 *********************************** TMT: 41.01 +ADD hunters +16 hours *******************************************
LOW-% Metroid Fusion (1%): 0.57 Metroid zero mission (9%) normal: 0.41 Metroid prime 2 echoes (22%): 2.47
100% Super Metroid: 1.10 Metroid Fusion: 1.22 Metroid Zero mission: 0.56 Metroid prime 2 echoes: 2.42
********************** Orginal metroid is best way lower my TMT, but i really have trouble beat that game without deaths.
Best time: 1.55 (PAL-versio)
-Wow my second speedrun is 46 minutes better than my previous one -23-segment (22-save) -41% item (6-et 50m 4pb)
-I use same route as sefan 1.09 but i change two route: 1: I dont use hard flying pirate dash in tallon over world, i use chozo ruins back track 2: I don,t use thardus dash. It is most difficult trick in the game.
-I finally skip spider ball it really surprised me, because there is couple incredible difficult trick. Bomb rising unmorph after flaahgra was so hard, i can du that almost 20% of the time, thanks my own unmorph method
-Ore prosessing took first time 1-2 hours, but i finally understand that and it was actually pretty easy.
-Geo core was hard too.
-MQA. THansk my own space pirate dash method. Metroid dash feel too hard and R-dash was impossible for me. Space pirate dash was slowest method, but i think it was easiest one.
-I want thanks everybody peoples who helped me. Sparky give good tips beat elite pirate in one round. Thanks Stefan & Iowa too.
And thanks MR.X, you tell me that versio difference.
-My last boss was suck ass. It took 15 minutes beat. I don,t understand that Pool glitch his 2nd form yet. It was so complicate IMO.
I think if i practice that pool glitch i can get at least 1.51 ending, because my MP2 was in 8-9 pool fight. I know PAL versio boss have more energy than US versio boss, but still i can get faster fight than 15 minutes. My first form was good enought, i have little trouble his 4th chamber, but everythink else going very good.
-Overall my run was pretty suck, this don,t look same than my Echoes 1.58. My echoes run was really fast, but anyway Echoes is at least 3 times easier speedrun than orgianl prime. This game was hellishly hard. I am overall happy my run, but still last boss suck really. i really want get that faster than 8-9 pool.
**********EDIT************* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Best time: 1.53
-Last boss in 13 minutes. Without prime 2nd form pool gltich. Pool glitch can save at least 3 minutes.
I trying that pool glitch couple times, but it doesn,t work. It looks easier what it is. When i go pool with ice beam it don,t want shot hyper beam. And that glitch is overall so weird & complicate IMO.
But 13 min last segment without pool glitch is good enought. First form was fast enought.
Well but yeah that was still too hard, i really think my jump heights was still too low, but it never stay onto the upper ledge, i think you need frame perfection jump or somethink.
But well i finally complete metroid quarantine A without spider ball, i use space pirate dash method. It took several tries, but i finally manage that.
I think i was very lucky. I kill all metroids before metroids kill pirates. When one Pirate falling phazon pool, i can jump combat dash front a door. That dash took several tries, but well i think it is easier than that jump method.
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My next questions hopefully my last questions. How i can stunned Rildley with only one charge shot in his mouth. I need at least 3 charge when boss stunned. I watch video many times, but this not help me because i du that same way but boss don,t want stunned.
Working that glitch with PAL versio? And how it working?
Thanks Iowa & stefan. I go practice that.
Is it just R-dash what i need here?
This is news to me.
Thanks Sparky.
It finally working. Dash method was better than jump IMO.
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I need help once again.
My next questions is. Only room what i don,t can complete without spider ball is metroid quarantine A. How i can dut that with PAL versio.
I watch Stefan metroid dash method, but i think it is definitely too hard for me, because i am suck dasher. Pirate low-% run method looks easier but i don,t understand why it doesn,t work. I trying that couple hours but it doesn,t work never. I probably don,t find right spot or my jump is too low or short.
Can anybody help me, because that is only room where i need spider ball. Everything else is possible complete without spider ball.
How i can du elite pirate in one round kill? (without boss made shield attack) I don,t can avoid his shield attack never. This took lot time when i ve must be wait this attack.
Boss made that shiled attack everytime when i shooting rapid missiles against his head. How i can avoid that, just like Stefan?
When i watch stefan WR PAL versio video, elite pirate don,t made that shield attack never.  I read lot that metroid2002 main page but i don,t found answers my questions.
I du that bomb jump same way as WR Player, bomb jump itself don,t caused real trouble for me. It is pretty easy.
Yeah that,s true when you said if you unmorph proper time camera dont, going weird. I know that, it is WR method, but i timing is very presice, took easily more than 20-50 tries find that timing.
But that my unmorph method what i founded yesterday, you don,t need perfect timing unmorph. When you unmorph and turn your stick you can going fast morph ball mode again and move fast onto the ledge with morph ball.
EDIT: I know that floaty jump method too, but i remember it working north american versio only.
Heh i finally manage that flaahgra artifact trick with my speedrun. i was very surprised, i complete this crazy segment in first attempt.
I am 6 min behind Stevan WR time in magmoor cavern, because i am getting 2 more ET and my Chozo fight was at least minutes slower than Stefan run.
Yeah if somebody have trouble made that unmorph onto the ledge. My method is probably easier, i can manage that own method almost 20% of the time, but WR unmorph method is almost impossible for me. My method is simply when last bomb explode turn joystick up right and unmorph without right camera setting and morphed back and stay onto the ledge with morph ball mode.
WR method caused always much trouble because it camera is always wrong when i unmorph. If you use my method you don,t need that perfect camera setting.
This is good alternate method if you have trouble made WR method.
I just practice lot that trick, sometimes i can manage that 3-4 times succesive, but sometimes when i lose my concentration this took easily 30 even 50 attempts. I don,t know why it sometimes working better and sometimes it took very much tries.
I find new way unmorphing, sometimes it working easier than WR method.  I moved my stick and unmorph first and i morphing back and i stay onto the ledge with morph ball mode. This not very easy, but sometimes i can manage that bit easier than WR method.
But yeah this is so nightmare segment on speedrun, because your must be beat flaahgra before that and this took easily more attempt for me. Flaahgra is hard too, because it last root jump is bit difficult and that unmorph trick is very difficult without dying.
Congrats man. Quadarxis is pretty easy if you are fast, when you kill him. Hard mode battle is at least 50-65% harder, because it legs form is very long.
Emperor ing is pretty easy too, if you use screw attack under him when boss use jump attack. This method is much faster and easier than anni beam method. I think you don,t have much trouble here.
Nice time Secret key.
You are probably next sub 30 minutes man. You have very good Metroid Fusion skills and 31 is very good Zero Mission time. My own ZM time is 29.55. If you practice lot you definitely can get sub 30 minutes.
Sub 30 minutes goal is pretty hard, but i think much easier than sub 50 min on Fusion.
If you mean normal mode low-% boss this my method is best.
Kill all legs in one round light beam only. When boss battle started shot light charge and couple regular shot against first legs. (you need light charge and 3-5 light beam regualar shots against per legs)
When first legs died, kill second legs same method and dodge boss attack. Third legs is pretty annoying, your must be fast. Fourth legs is probably bit easier.
Boss drops energys around the room, everytime when legs died. Collect your energys fully and continued.
Second form strategy is easy. Jump screw attack against boss body antenna. When boss stunned, shot one SM, one charge and couple dark beam regular shots his head antenna. Alternate you can use two SM shots or light beam charge or light beam regular shots against his head antenna. When boss antenna died collect missile and energy refills around the room.
When you jump screw attack his body antenna your must be remember one thing: There is 50% change choose right legs or wrong legs. If you choose wrong legs you not can jump onto the legs.
Third phase is simple, use same idea as any-%.
Hard mode low-% fight is most complicate, because first form is insanely difficult, and you need use both, SM and light shots against his legs and in one round legs kill is impossible here.  But i think you play normal mode.
My english grammar suck hopefully you understand my points.
Sparky test run includes only 13 segments in youtube. I don,t know why he don,t never recorded his 2 last segments. But anyway
I watching almost all 13 segment and i,ve must be say, it was so cool. Who know is it console run or real time emulator (savestate) run without slowdown. But it looks bit cooler than Zoid. It was absolutely perfect. I belive his clear time is still much higher than 59. I think it is very high 1.01 or 1.02.
Without new timesavers/route changes it is absolutely impossible get under hour run. I think 1.01-1.02  is lowest possible time on console for human hands.
Well Rekameohs  is back. Wow thanks your compliments.
Yeah i remember you was very close. I remember your time was 2.05 right?
When i beat my sub 2 hours run i don,t skip grapple and i don,t use that first scan dash shortcuts in vault, because both trick are really hard apply speedrun. Max distance scan dash is very hard, it can took easily 100 tries for me.
Normal distance R-dash is very easy just like example: R-dash over dark forgoten bridge gaps is one easiest trick in the game.
I wait your sub 2 hours run next . You definitely can get it easily. Actually sub 2 hours mark is not too hard. Couple segments caused bit trouble for me.
1: Agon segment was very hard & borring 2: Screw attack segment was bit hard and annoying. Transit station is bit randomly and it is latest part in long segment 3: Spider guardian and Emperor ing is hard too.
But overall it is easier get fast any-% run than fast 100% run.
Sub 2 hours run was my 5th any-% accomplishment. Of course before that i beat many different category speedrun. Low-% hard mode challenge run was hardest one what i ever made. It really was harder than any speedrun ever what i am complete.
Best 100% time: 2.43
-My first 100% run -33 segment (32 save) -No secret worlds -This run was incredible difficult -I practice lot speed trick, before this run -My route was bit different than Sparky route, i get dark suit later game (after light suit) -My item order was bit different too, i change that little bit.
-This run includes many difficult speedtrick, i use pretty much same tricks as Sparky but i avoid couple very hard speedtricks. And my run includes many new tricks.
-I don,t use quad skip this time, because it locked reactor core save room and Sanctuary fortress includes many difficult trick. I really needed that save room my 100% run.
-I get sunburst without dark world. This trick was pure hell apply speedrun, i spend lot time and i finally manage that without dying. It was very annoying because it was almost latest part in long segment. It really piss me off many times.
-My run includes very much little mistakes and pretty much saves. I was very lazy manipulate upper torvus pirates, because 100% game itself was very hard too.
-Overall i am happy my run, because i manage many difficult tricks without dying, example reactor core energy tank, hall of combat mastery M-expansion, main research M-expansion, transit station PB without spider ball and sunburst without dark world.
-I definitely can get 5 minutes faster run, even 10 minutes if i have crazy luck and much patience. 100% run was really hard beat. I think this don,t look as good as my 1.58 any-%, because i was too lazy working perfect run and that 100% was much harder and includes most crazy tricks.
********EDIT 26. JUNE************
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BEST 100% TIME: 2.42
-I improve my last segment. Emperor ing segment in 5 minutes -Empy 1 in one round -Empy 2 Avarage -Empy 3 Pretty good -Dark samus: 5.59 time left (Using sonic boom)
My questions:
When i watching that sparky test run on youtube, it includes most crazy speedtricks, example elite pirate enemy boost in Phazon mines. And it looks overall bit faster than Zoid 1.03 IMO.
Is it Sparky test run real console run? Using he cheats or something?
I don,t can understand why he calling that test run, because it is insane cool. Why he don,t recorded that?
Great job
I Just finished watching your 1.07 SS run. It was very cool. LAst fight was perfect, even better than Kip segmented run last battle.
I don,t see any mistakes your SS run. Only spot where i see little mistakes was PB maze after invisble dynamo drone, it was bit slow. But well everythink else working perfectly.
I don,t know how good is your 1.03 segmented run, because i don,t watching that yet.  But your 4 minutes slower SS run was incredible fast, i think 1.03 is EXTREMELY VERY FAST RUN!!!
I don,t can belive is it sub hour possible on console. We can see. But 1.07 SS was one coolest SS run what i ever see.
But nice job man
Don,t worry Secret key. I have same trouble. I am pratice that almost one year but i miss that always 50-100 times. I don,t never learn that unmorph trick. ](*,)  It is very hard for me.
It is main reason why i don,t speedrun that game, this is very important trick it can save 10- even 20 minutes game time.
Orginal prime is crazy game sbreak/speedrun. It is overal shorter game than echoes, but my best Echoes time is 1.58 and my best orginal prime time is 2.41. I don,t know why i don,t never learn made orginal Prime sequence breaks. That unmorph trick is top my list. It is very hard.
My little questions about Silent echo 100% route.
Is it his item route same as Sparky expect that dark suit?
I know he get dark suit later game, but change he that item route? I started 100% test run and i am bit curious what is his item route. Annoying he never recorded his insane cool hard mode 100% run.
This was nice.
Mecha ridley & Dr phil encounter was so fun.
Yeah 15% run is same as any-%. 9% is real low-% This is real speedrun rules. Right?
There is no points made 15% run because it is same category as any-% run, but well it is good place increase your skills. And if you want get your gallery pictures easily 15% is good choise.
I,ve must be say i beat 15% normal mode SS run long time ago and it was really easy, even much easier than hard mode any-% SS run. I beat 15% hard mode run before my 10% hard mode. 15% hard was easy too, i don,t never died against Robot ridley, because it was really easy with 3 SM max. I can say 15% hard was even easier than 9% normal. 10% hard mode is pretty tought challenge, you really need good skills here.
Well Tonski is back. Are you continued your 9% run?
Best time hard mode: 2.29
-NO secret worlds/wall craw -I use SDA time rules -44% items (5et, 75m, 200 b-ammo, 3pb) -25 segment (24 save)
30 minutes faster than my previous hard mode time, only 5 minutes slower than S_E hard mode WR SS run on SDA.
-I use same route as my 1.58 normal mode run, expect i get dark suit, because Boost guardian is too hard without dark suit. I dont understand that in one round method, because it is never working for me.
-I beat my run in two day. Yeah i was bit lazy working that as perfect as my normal mode run.
My huge time lost:
-Almost 10 minutes when i get dark suit -40-50 seconds in transit station (i miss hole jump two times and PB pit rising jump 3 times. I was lazy restart my game because everything else going good -Boost guaridian in 3 rounds (it good enought for me) -Spider guardian third maze, i falling one time down -Empy 1 in two round -First agon segment suck ass, i hate that segment.
Good points: -I grap 3 more missile expansions and one more B-ammo expansions -My Empy segment was good enought, fast third phase and fast dark samus. Quadraxis part was amazing too only one minutes slower than S_E WR segment on normal mode. Hard mode fight is longer too. -I use couple new tricks first time in my life, example scan dash onto the great bridge.
I put my sub times, my both run:
Normal mode 1.58 sub times:
0.04 great temple 0.08 Agon wastes 0.22 Agon wastes before DS 0.25: Dark agon wastes 0.32 Torvus bog 0.36 HD station 0.37 HD station after first dash 0.37 HD station after second dash 0.40 Before grapple guardian 0.45 Before Boost guardian 0.47 After boost guardian 0.48 before Chykka' 0.55 After chykka 0.58 Samus aran ship 1.01 Great temple 1/9 key 1.06 Main gyro chamber 1.13 Main gyro chamber after screw attack and PB 1.21 after Spider guradian 2/9 key 1.24 Ing hive before quadraxis 1.32 Great temple 1.36 HD station 3/9 key 1.42 Dark agon wastes 4/9 key 1.51 Great temple 8/9key 1.53 Sky temple
1.58 clear time
HARD MODE any-% sub times
0.04 great temple 0.09 Agon wastes 0.27 Agon wastes before DS 0.30 Dark agon wastes 0.37 Before Amorbis 0.43 Agon wastes 0.46 Torvus lagoon 0.50 HD station 0.51 after first dash 0.51 after second dash 0.55 Before grapple guardian 0.59 before boost guardian 1.02 after boost guradian 1.04 before chykka 1.17 Samus aran ship 1.20 Great temple 1.25 main gyro chamber 1.33  Main gyro chamber after screw attack and PB 1.41 After Spider guardian 2/9 key 1.46 Ing hive before Quadraxis 1.56 Great temple 2.00 HD station 3/9 key 2.06 Dark agon wastes 4/9 key 2.17 Sky temple
2.29 clear time
Who is next? Good luck!!! And thanks piccolocube your previous comments.
Light suit before Quadraxis is impossible IMO.
Your must be active ing hive & sanctuary energy before light suit.
I don,t sure is it possible get light suit before Quadraxis with SW.
40 SS on PAL is seriously crazy time too. But well yeah i really want see that your 35 min segmented. IT IS SO CRAZY WORK!!! sounds even impossible.
I think it looks at least 31 min run on NTSC versio, even 30 min
go go go
Well thanks. I test that scarlet method and it was pretty easy, even easier than my own method, it working very well, took only couple failed attempt for me. Scarlet method was bit faster than my own method, i think 5-7 seconds faster than my own.
That second method was hard when i watch your second video. It doesn,t work yet but i was lazy practice that because that scarlet method was much better, easier & almost as fast as.
Thanks Doniss. Well it really working!!! :P
Took several tries find bsj spot and that jump was pretty randomly because it ledge was very narrow.  Pretty hard/annoying trick apply speedrun.  But well i can du it now. 8-)
I read lot old echoes topics, but i don,t never find answers my questions.
What about is this sunburst speedtrick? You can get sunburst without going dark world.
SILENT ECHO WROTE 20th.feb.2006*********
Winchamber no dark world : 30secs
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What hell he mean? My opinion your must be visit  darkworld just like Sparky. My opinion your must be visit dark world and your must be complete that boost ball puzzle. Can anybody explain what he mean about this?
There is most bosses what i hate and what i love.
But i hate very much Quadraxis and emperor ing in low-% hard mode. Quadraxis is very hard and annoying and Emperor ing third phase was so randomly manipulation.
When you ask what i hate when i speedrun any-% normal.?
I hate spider guardian so much with speedrun.
*****post 11.june******
I find third alternate method get reactor core early energy tank without spider ball and without rezbitz. There is two older methods:
My third alternate method is bit slower but my opinion bit easier than rezbitz method. But still hard.
1-Use single bsj assist screw attack onto the reactor edge 2-Jump regular space jump onto the reactor blue cap. 3-When you are opposite energy tank, jump screw attack in hole and get energy tank.
This not easy way, but probably bit easier than rezbitz method. It slower too, not much slower but i think it is almost 10 seconds slower.
EDIT: 13.june**********
Well i find couple new trick.
Torvus plaza energy tanks: My method:
-This is slower than sparky method, but much easier, and much faster than orginal method. I working almost one hour that sparky method, but it doesn,t work never. And i decide find own method.
-My own little method sounds like crazy, but i can du that very often. It is much easier what i thinking.
1-Your must be kill sporb enemy your power bomb because it is very annoying
2-Go right side upper spider track and load your boost ball fully. (that spot is pretty precise)
3-when you are opposite higher platform, launch your boost ball and unmorph fast just before when you getting hit a wall. If you manage that right, Samus stay up onto the ledge. That unmorph timed is pretty precise. It can took several tries first time. But overall it is pretty easy when you learn it. I can sometimes du that 3-4 times successive without dying. This not too hard, but sometimes pretty randomly.
4- When Samus stay up onto the ledge, Jump easy ghetto onto the upper ledge, and continued screw attack and get energy tanks. (Altenate you can going in morph ball cannon, it is as fast as screw attack, i think.)
I think this method is fast enought, it is almost 10-12 sec slower than Sparky method, but much easier. Hopefully peoples understand what i mean. My explains sounds like very complicate, because this is hard explain and my english suck little bit, but anyway.
EDIT 2***** I test R-dash new updates. I can du combat visor R-dash. It working as good as scan visor R-dash. It is harder find right camera spot because enemys moves everytime.
Very great TAS run.
New route surprised me so much. I am sure that route is don,t best choise on console, because it includes much NO human tricks and impossible timesavers. It definitely is bit slower route on console.
But i still see there is much interesting time saver what i belive possible made on console. I think that suitless samus first alert is possible avoid on console, it looks pretty easy if you have fast refleks. Faster Robot Rildley is possible too, because i test that couple months ago, but it is 100% random apply speedrun. I can beat Robot ridley sometimes almost as fast as TAS, but i don,t never have enought patience apply that my speedrun.
Great job man. But next: It is time get Transience console run down. Spidey Widey beat his time once, but he don,t never recorded that.
It is interesting see 27.xx run on console. It is very possible, because Spidey time was 28.04 and game includes many new time saver. I think Transience route is still best choise on console. KRaid first route is too good, because Jagger-g get sub 30 using Kraid first route. I think Kraid first route is still bit slower than Ridley first on console.
EDIT: I test new TAS tricks on console. That first pirate alert looks easy but it is much harder what it looks. I trying almost 30-50 tries but only two times i avoid that first pirate, but second pirate activate always that alerts. My zero skills are very rusty right now, but i think it is still too hard apply speedrun.
I test that new Blue Brinstar route before Tourian. It was at most 1 seconds faster than regular route.
Well i don,t care very much watch or speedrun secret worlds runs. NO SW runs interested me.
21% without SW and 17% with SW hard mode can be really hard. I don,t know which is harder. 17% SW run don,t includes Quadraxis fights and Quadraxis is very hard on hard mode low-% run. Took 3 days and multiple hours beat that my 22% hard mode run.
You are right Kip run is theoretically really easy beat, only problem is beat that hard mode run. I think i beat that only one time, i don,t have any interesting try speedrun that again. 3.50 time suck ass but well it is probably hardest accomplishment ever what i made. Much harder than under 2 hours any-% normal run IMO.
I probably can planned try 21% normal mode run someday, if i learn that grapple skip. Today i just learn that R-dash jump i probably can try grapple skip someday. Doniss give good tips and finally can manage that trick and it is pretty easy.
But good luck MR.X with your run. Yours skills are very high. Definitely can complete this one if you have patience enought try.
Best time: 1.59
-NO secret worlds -39% items -25 segment (24-save point) -8 minutes faster than my previous -Well finally sub two hours. -I think i try get 1.58 ending later, because my last segment was bit slow. Empy 1 in two rounds, 2nd form was amazing and third form bit avarage, my manipulate luck bit suck and boss use only two jump attack. I must be use anni beam shots against his mouths, because boss don,t like made jump attack today.
-I  hate that Empeor ing battle because it is very randomly and sometimes when i use anni beam and screw attack combination, boss restores his energy without any reasons. And i,ve must be restart my game. Dark samus was avarage too, it was almost 20 sec slower than my best. I don,t miss any shots, but my manipulate luck was avarage once again.
-Segment itself was still only 1 minutes slower than S_E segment. I think my time is very high 1.59.
-Well my run itself was very good, there is much very good segments and boss battles. I use S_E route, but expect i don,t skip grapple beam.
-Well i decide get screw attack before spider ball. It segment took long time beat, because it was hard. I finally get almost perfect segment, i don,t miss transit station PB pit up rising, it took lot restart for me.
-My Quadraxis segment was very well, one best segment my run. Actually it was bit faster than S_E segment. My segment took only 8 minutes beat, S_E segment took 9 minutes.
Of course my run includes is much mistakes. LAst segment was probably slowest part, i think i can get 1.58 if i can du perfect last segment.
I use lot new boss trick, just like i decide beat grapple guardian without first phase scan. Boost gaurdian in one round kill feel too hard, i decide beat fast 2 rounds battle.
Well i don,t know try i ever new any-% normal run, probably i try 1.58 ending yet. Somedays i definitely try improve my hard mode run. My run hard mode any-% run suck, because my best hard mode time is 2.59 heh!!! it is one hours slower than my normal mode run.
******EDIT*************
BEst time: 1.58
-Empy and DS segment in 5 minutes, just like S_E Amazing Empy battle. Form 1 in one round Form 2 amazing Form 3 Very fast anni beam fight and one screw attack under him
Dark samus: 5.33 time left.
This don,t real glitchs, but it is pretty weird thing.
When you use power bomb against Spider guardian, Spider guardian died and your must be restart your game. It is uncessary glitch, but fun thing. Is anybody trying that?
Define you torizo skip your mistakes?
Tonski break his SNES controls when he try torizo skips. This must be very hard even impossible on console and especially PAL versio single segments run.
But very great job man. You beat my own PAL segmented run whole 6 minutes.
Are you planned 100% runs on PAL? My best is 1.10 and best SS 1.13.
My little speedrun questions:
Running in-game  clock when you going inside dark or light portal?
I don,t know that, but if in-game clock don,t run, hall of combat mastery instant morph trick is pretty uncessary apply speedrun, because you can going in dark world and it took almost 10 seconds game time. Portal sub programs took almost 10 more seconds, but i don,t know running in game clock between portal animation.
Well my run sounds like pretty good. I have almost 6 minutes ahead my 2.07 run in manigyro chamber (i have very good change get at least 2.01 run). I decide try that new screw attck before spider ball route, i get 1.14 after screw attack. This segment was pretty crappy. I miss roll jump 2 times, watch station bsj jump i miss two times and transit station bsj jump i miss 3 times and i don,t trying that hall of combat mastery trick, because it is extremely randomly and this segment is very hard.
I don,t happy my segment yet i definitely try later again improve that. I complete much good attempt but always that transit station PB pit rising ruin my run. It is so hard made without dying.
But wish me luck. This segment suck, i really can hate speedrun that segment. Too much luck base, and irritating PB refill manipulation drops before save point. It can be randomly time and i have always bad luck if everything else working.
Yeah manipulate refill drops suck. It is irrtating
My MB battle is definitely possible complete faster, I remember that MR.X battle was almost 40-50 sec faster than me. My method is bit weird, i jumping always onto the boss ledge and i freeze and kill rinkas here. It is definitely bit slower way, but much easier, because i never falling acid pool. Still sub 3 min MB segment must be incredible fast, almost impossible.  My own segment was 3.4x somethink.... Mr.X segment was sub 3 min. I think your must be beat boss itself in one minutes, because it escape took 45-50 sec and trip in chozodia save took time too.
I remember you need almost 50 hit against MB.
20 against glass and over 30 against eye.
Tonski. You have master skills with zero mission. I really wonder your run sounds very good. Only 1.06 behind my 41.35 low-% run run. I working two weeks that my low-% run. Sub 30 any-% took only 3 days.
Sub 42 min 9% run is my opinion much more frustrating than any-% sub 30 minutes. If you try any-% run next you can get at least 31 minutes probably sub 30 minutes.
Well Thomaz is back. hopefully we can see your sub 30 run someday. You have couple seconds ahead my 29.55 run, it is good change get sub 30 this time.
I just started my real run, i hopefully can get sub 2 hours this time. I have at least 1 minutes ahead my 2.07 run after first dark samus.
I watch S_E videos once again before i started my run. His video looks like crazy, it includes much no human tricks. There is many spots, but i don,t understand how he can made these tricks:
1 He jump high floaty jump onto the ledge in doomed entry (first dark room after first dark samus), I don,t understand how it is possible, it never give enought heights. It looks like ghetto, but he don,t need getting hit wall. Is it ghetto possible without getting hit wall? He use that trick almost everywhere game.
2 He get first beam ammos without shooting block around a room. I don,t know how he can jump enought long jump. I test that many, many times, but jump don,t give enought distance cross that long gaps before beam ammo expansion
3 He can jump bsj without camera trick, his camera looks like so weird, just like he jump polluted mire single bsj. His camera looks crazy, i can jump that too, but i need camera trick +double bsj and it took several tries, almost impossible apply speedrun.
4 His scan dash give everytime much distance, my scan dash give always same more as regular jump. He can jump dark forgoten bridge gap with scan dash, i need roll jump.
His run includes many very weird thing. Is it his run complete in PAL versio? Includes PAL versio some difference than NTSC?
*****27- th may post****
Thanks djgrenola it looks like easy.
I don,t know is it easy, but it looks.
EDIT: I remember when i test that scan dash, it give same more distance as regular jump. Can i jump onto the robot regular jump too?
EDIT 2: I just test that jump about 200 times in dark forgoten bridge, but why it don,t never give distance enought? I watch S_E video many times and he can jump much longer jump than me. What i du wrong??
EDIT: 28.th may****************
Well what peoples thinking my sanctuary fortress route, how much it is slower? And is it possible use that? I think it is possible but it is little bit different than S_E, but i think as fast as expect grapple skip. Reads that carefully.
1 Double bsj over quad room. 2 Instant unmorph over hall of combat mastery spider track. I finally can du that, but it took sometimes several tries, but probably i can apply that if i have patience restart my game much enought
3 Megalops room with boost methods. I timed it and it is 1 seconds faster than ghetto method.
4 Main gyro chamber puzzle 1 and save.
5 Watch station without spider ball with bsj method. I can du that room sometimes very often without dying.
6 I don,t think skip grapple this time, because that dash don,t never give distance for me. I du something wrong, i think.
7 Screw attack (i skip dark portal number 2 with roll jump, just like my 2.07 run.) 8 Transit station without spider ball, well that PB pit took sometimes several tries, because it is bit lucky rise up here.
9 I think i skip hall of combat mastery trick my second visit, because i,ve must be active dark portal before Quadraxis. S_E active that already his first visit. I think it is bit comfortable jump over spider track in first visit, because it is easier segment complete than this one.
10 Megalops room with screw attack method (it is easiest i think, probably as fast as ghetto method) 11 save point in maingyro chamber 12 way to go battle against spider guardian
Well Super metroid low-% is insane, i watch Smokey boss battles, i think i never can survive against Ridley or Mother brain. MB kill instantly.
1% run in fusion is pretty easy, but SS is absolutelu too randomly, There is 3 main boss took always couple deaths (Yakuza, Nightmare and Rildley) biospark is bit crazy, i really wait see his video.
Zero is probably easiest low-% game, only expect that SS is irritating because i hate failed my run everytime when somethink bad haapen and i miss something easy point, just like last time Tourian escape & tourian metroids. Space pirate segment can be hard too, because only one little mistake and you game is over.
Echoes low-% is real pain, i really working really hard my hard mode low-% run, it was hardest low-% run what i ever complete. Took only 2 weeks without trying any speed.
First metroid part is easy place on low-% hard if you save your game after everysingle metroid room.
But that is really hard speedrunning, all metroids room wihout backtrack save. I doing that my current run and it took 2 hours beat metroid first half all rooms all in the one go, without backtrack save.
But if you don,t try speedrun, that is easy place IMO.
I trying 9% SS run many times almost year ago, but always i miss my run, something easy mistakes. Right now my ZM low-% skills are pretty rusty, i beat my latest low-% run couple months ago.
9% nomal SS is real pain, it is luck time because mecha ridley attack randomly attacks and it is last fight in the game.
But well i wait you 9% segmented run, you are hard man too.
9% normal is pretty hard run first time, i remember i working long time my first completion. There is two hard encounter, i think Mother brain and Mecha Ridley get many attempt first time.
Well all zero low-% challenges is overall pretty easy beat expect that 9% Hard PAL and only real insane hard part there is 4 barriers/zebetite.
Yeah 15% =Any-% run
But anyway 9% is pretty hard first time, it is good reason practice 15% run before real challenge.
Thanks doniss. I test that and it working very well.
I don,t know is it any easier, faster or better than bsj method, but it is nice way and pretty easy.
I think that watch station is not too hard place apply speedrun, i think it is even easier than transit station and hall of combat mastery. Biggest trouble if i decide use that route is transit station PB pit bsj, it is easy, but extremely randomly, sometimes it took lot time and it can ruin my speedrun. And annoying it is last part in long segment.
Grapple skip can be real pain, that picture can help little bit. He talking about scan dash, mean he kip dash (screen freeze scan dash)? I think i forget that method if he mean kip dash, because it kip dash is too hard, it working very randomly for me and caused lot trouble everytime.
*****Post 18 th may****** Thanks MR.X.
Well flying pirates scared me. I skip ing hive keys my low-% normal and survive save my game only 39 energy point left, flying pirate attack is very dangerous especially hard mode. It is easy way get ing hives keys because alternate route go save game after Quadraxis is very easy.
You hate emperor ing. Me too. It battle was so hard on hard mode low-%. You need at least 7-8 screw attack under him and boss attack hurt so much. And him first phase was irritating too, because it is long, i beat that in three-four rounds
EDIT******25th may**********
I planned use new route my next any-% run. Wow!!!   Sancturary fortress is extremely tought place.
I practice many hours still it is too luck base use that route. I lose always 3-5 minutes too much time
I can du watch station moprh slot jump almost 25% of the time and bsj onto lower track took sometimes couple tries, ghetto can be easier way but there is no flashplayer video where i can watch that camera spot made ghetto. I finally find double bsj spot, but it took time find that, because triple bsj is too frustrating apply speedrun
Transit station is top my list, it is hard, because first screw attack in PB pit took couple tries, i find pretty good spot jump in hole, i can sometimes du that 25-50% of the time, but sometimes only 5% of the time. PB pit bsj is hardest one, it is so randomly get out here, sometimes it took mutiple minutes, because bsj give randomly more heights. S_E miss that manytimes too. I remember he say his hard SS comments he lose 1.40 minutes in transit stations.
I think it is good idea use save before hall of combat mastery, but it save took at least 30 seconds time. Hall of combat mastery bsj assist screw attack is randmly too, i took sometimes many tries, i find that alternate methods. It is still easier than instant unmorhph, but still randomly too.
I think that is very hard way apply speerdun. I think it is easier and only two minutes slower get spider ball before screw attack. I think i lose 5 minutes time too much if i don,t get that spider ball early.
I think i want try grapple skip my next run, it save lot ime and that new route total can be save at least 6 minutes , many peoples say it is very hard skip grapple, and watch station, grapple skip, transit station withouts spider ball is absolutelu too luck base on human.
djgrenola say he find easy way grapple skip, but annoying his flash player suck in archiveorg and i don,t can watch easier grapple skip video. He speak about scan dash, but scan dash (aka kip dash) is hardest move in the game, i can du that under 1% of the time. Roll jump is easier one, but it spot is hard find because it flying robot fly away.
I must be practice lot before i started my sub 2 hours run. My current records is 2.07 and i complete 22% hard mode in 3.50. I think i have enought skill try that, but 8 minutes is too much with my current route, i need that grapple skip route my next run.
Sounds like good. Only minutes behind for me.
I know my kraid part was pretty crappy, because after Kraid i was too nervous and i made at least 8-10 seconds pure mistakes. Tourian second part is easy improve because i miss 4-5 rinkas refill and MB battle what MR.X said his battle was at least 40 seconds faster than me. I don,t understand how it possible. I think his manipulate luck was perfects.
Robot Rildley rock my run. It was insane good part, but still possible 4-5 seconds faster. I working 3 days my Robot ridley battle
go go go, you can good change get sub 43, probably sub 42 this time, if you have enought patience manipulate your luck. I think your patience can help you much if you want get sub 40 min 9% run. Your first segment was only one, it was too slow. I think you have good change get sub 40 next time, but you need insane amount manipulate luck.
I practice multiple hours that watch station jump. I finally can go onto the spider track. I find simple place made triple bsj. Tripple bsj sometimes piss me off, because it is harder than single and double bsj. It give same more height as double but camera situation is difference and your must be push faster your buttons.
But well i can du that sometimes. But i don,t never can jump in bomb slot. It is absolutelu too hard. I read many times metroid2002 main pages and i watch sparky video, but i don,t understand why it don,t never grap bomb slot for me. I try manytimes and many different jumps style. Sparky is bit crazy he don,t mess up that jump. What is midair morph?
Why it don,t never working?
EDIT: It finally working. I spend couple hours and it finally grap. I test that second time and it grap once again and took only 3-4 attempt. It is sometimes little randomly and it timing was hard find, but i finally find it or i was lucky.
But that is still too hard speedrun because watcstation, grapple skip, transit station and hall of combat mastery is really hard complete all in one go and without dying. It took lot time. I think very early screw attack and PB without spider ball save almost 2 minutes and it is much harder, i made easily 5-10 minutes mistakes in this segment and i don,t never test grapple skip, i think roll jump onto the robot is very hard, it looks hard when S_E play that.
Kip run is really old it is really ancient run. Go go guys, get,s that time out. low-% hard is not too hard beat. I beat low-% hard, MR.X is very close beat that.
I lose only 13 minutes kip time and i don,t trying speedrun. It is easy improve that time and this site includes much better echoes player than me. I am bit amateur sbreakker, but enought skillfull player beat 22% low-% hard mode. My empy/darksamus segment took only 16 minutes. it was much faster than kip. Screw attack really is good way against empy 3.
It is so interesting see sub 3 hours 21% hard mode run.  21% hard is too hard for me because i don,t can du grapple skip.
go go go guys!!!
Thanks Tonski and Doniss.
It took days beat that challenge, i started that two weeks ago, but i planned that 5-6 months.
MR.X 22% hard mode attempt give me lot motivatios try that challenge.
Actually most bosses was pretty easy beat and game itself was pretty easy. Actually there is only 4 very hard boss encounter. Of course Amorbis was pretty hard but i think it was especially irritating than hard.  Chykka was long but overall simple.
Empy third worm was hard, still my method was better than kip. I use screw attack only + all 50 annibeam shots.  I was very lucky because it is randomly time wait when boss use jump attack. I was very close death, i survive only 16 energy point left.
I think i never want try that again, but my time really suck. I don,t skip ing hive keys, because it is big risk pass pirate commando attack and two flying pirates after Quadraxis.  But anyway, i don,t care my clear time. This is probably my best accomplishment ever what i made. 8-)
I FINALLY COMPLETE THIS.  :P
Best time low-% 22% HARD MODE: 3.50
-This run was pure hell, i lose 13 minutes kip time, but i don,t care, this is incredible accomplishment.
-there is 4 Extremely difficult boss.
-Boost guardian was incredible tought, it took 2 days and many deaths -Quadraxis was top my list, took 3 days and many tries beat.
-Emperor ing 3 phase was incredible hard, i was lucky i beat that after 1 hour but only 16 energy point left.
-Last dark samus took almost two hours beat and many deaths, it was very irritating because i miss everytime something easy mistakses here.
But i finally beat this. I am first man in Finland.
I AM SO HAPPY MAN RIGHT NOW.
THISI IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!! :P
Well PAL version is slower but it is especially much harder speedrun.  You need perfect frame timing when you going in doors. All doors stopped your speed if you shoot wrong time or something.
There is lot little difference everywhere.
I think Cpaldow best time US version is 35 min and PAL version 42 min. PAL version is definitely slower. Sub 40 minutes run on PAL looks like pretty much hotarubi run on US or JPN.
I think 48 SS is theoretical very possible. I think it is still easier than 53 minutes 1% SS.
I think Wassupdawgs segmented run don,t includes double core-x trick. It save lot frame if you use that against everysingle core-x. And Wassup run includes almost 20 save it took almost 2 minutes. game time
But 51 min SS is extremely great time. My best SS is 56 minutes and it was good run IMO. I see man, your skills is very high.
I finally beat Quadraxis my low-% hard mode run. I have 21% items right now. Light suit is last item what i need yet.
Quadraxis was INCREDIBLE DIFFICULT. It took 3 days beat and Normal mode low-% battle took only 5 attempt. That hard mode fight was definitely 65% harder and reason was his first leg form.
I find better order beat his first leg form than kip. I trying many different strategy. My final method was good because it was easy way beat two first legs.
Leg 1: Two light beam charge and regular shots. first leg is destroyed Leg 2: Light beam charge and regular shots and i dodge his red seeker bomb attack with bosst ball. and i continued shots regular light shots.
Leg 3-4: Sm shots and light beam combinations. Last two legs caused lot trouble, i don,t never found easy way. It is lucky time.
My second form methdos looks like Kip, but i don,t have light beams, because i lose all light beams against his first form.
This battle was 100% hell.
Next encounter is Emperor ing and Dark Samus, i really want hope Emperor ing & DS is easier than Quadraxis. But i don,t know is it?
Wish me luck.
Well my next part is Quadraxis my low-% hard mode.
2.51 minutes before Quadraxis save points.  I know it is slow, but i don,t have motivations speedrun my low-% hard mode run, because this challenge is hard enought beat only.
But well can anybody give little tips beat Quadraxis easily?
I am curious what is MR.X method when you beat that? is it your method different than Kip?
My method.
1 leg: Super missile, light beam charge and couple light beam regular shots. Same as Kip
2 leg: Light beam charge and light beam regular shots
3 leg: I don,t have good way beat that, but i use super missiles and light beams combinations everywhere.
4:leg: i don,t beat that yet
Is it good idea save couple light beam charge against his second form just like Kip? First form is very hard if you try safe your light ammos.
Normal mode is much easier because you can kill his all legs light beam only in one round. But you need SM shots hard mode and one round legs kill is impossible here.
I think i try practice that 4-5 energy tank max before real challenge, because i need good order save my ammo and kill him legs. But if somebody have good order beat that. Tell it me.
I know this is one hardest low-% bosses in video game history.
Wrong!
Early SB first don,t save as much as you said. When you get out room. I remember game clock stopped when you going in door and get out room.
I lose at most 40 seconds when i miss that 6-7 times.
Kraid quick kill save almost 30 seconds. Don,t minutes. I kill that pretty fast without quick kill.
Well better boss fights definitely saves lot time. And speedtrciks can save time. You probably can du sub 1.10 SS, but i think it is definitely much harder than you fancy.
6-7 ET is too much. It caused lot backtrack.
Under 1.10 100% SS on PAL versio. damn. I can say it is incredible difficult.  Only expect Hotarubi, he is incredible SS runner. I still little bit wonder is it his run real because his manipulate refill, boss luck looks like TAS.
I think when you play SS run especially 100% SS run. your must be have lot manipulate luck almost everywhere. SS run is much harder than segmented run, you definitely made lot mistakes +Most bosses attack pretty randomly and many spot just like early SB glitch, gauntlets items jumps is little manipulate without dying. 100% run includes lot hard tricks you need extremely much skills and overall good luck and perfect concenstration if you planned beat perfect run.
Any-% SS scared me.  Because there is lot place ruin this run. Just like Phantoom. and of course Ridley only 5 ET max and MB battle can be irritating because barrier glitch drain little bit your energy and your must be save at least 3 et left. MB fire attack ruin your run almost instantly, if you forget dodge this. It damage at least energy tanks your energy and you need at least 3 et left.
But well 100% run is at least as hard as any-%, there is don,t as much places died, but backtrack places scared me. Just like gauntlet items top my list. I miss that very often. But luckily i was very lucky man my SS run.
I think i don,t have motivations try that again because i am sure i next time miss gauntlet items jumps.
You definitely can improve this. Sub 1.10 sounds still too crazy. I think you need very good luck and much skills.
Best time 100% single segment: 1.13 (PAL- versio)
-No save points. -Complete slower PAL versio -3 minutes slower than my best segmented run
-This was very good 100% SS run, only expect was Phantoom, because it was only horrible fight in my run. I miss many shots and i have bad manipulate luck against Phantoom, better Phantoom fight can be save 1 minutes or even 2 minutes, but anyway.
-Everythink else working very well here.  -I was extremely lucky because i get gauntlet items without backtrack. I miss that jump almost 80-90% of the time. It surprised me because i don,t miss that this time.
-I miss simply Brinstar early SM mock ball one time -I miss maridia main street missiles shine spark one time. -I miss Kraid quik kill -I miss first wrecked ship shine spark one time -My Botwoon was in 5 round, if i remember right -My Draygon was avarage, i miss couple SM shots. But still i was pretty happy -I miss early springin ball glitch 6-7 times, but it was still pretty good because  enemy freeze is 100% lucky.
-There is still something little mistakse everywhere, but still this was overall very good SS run on PAL versio. I have many very good parts, many little things went very good.
It is very hard work improve that.
It is very hard made pre Draygon shine spark perfectly. Your must be jump first before shine spark super jump. My opinion it is almost impossible on PAL versio.
I can du pre Draygon shine spark (half) but i think it is as fast as regular way, probably only little bit faster. And it is still too hard apply speedrun because it is very easy mess up that after Botwoon.
Well thanks.
Still in three round must be INCREDIBLE HARD!!
In 2 round is 99,9% impossible, because you don,t can drain enought his energy because last half energy metter is 50% longer  than first half. And my best first round was 50% his energy metter (same as kip), but boss is very randomly, i don,t understand reason why boss going boost ball form everytime too early.
I survive only one time his fourth round but i died and boss have 25% energy left, my third round was pretty bad because I don,t have light ammos, i think it is very close 3 round possible. Kip battle was in 5 round and it looks good because Kip was died many times.
Hopefully i beat that someday.
I decide try 22% hard mode run.  Because normal mode low-% was pretty easy, Quadraxis was only hard part and it took only 5 deaths.
Right now i working on hard mode 22% run. I really have trouble beat Boost guardian, it is at least 65% harder hard mode than normal mode battle.
I can drain 50-75% his energy in 3 round but everytime fourth round is too hard beat and i died, because boss break all pillars and i lose all my energy and light ammos, and everysingle hits kill instantly.
Is it possible beat Boost Guardian in three round in low-% hard mode? I think i never can survive 4 rounds alive.
Long beam skip is only about 12-20 seconds faster way.
My best time in norfair save after power grip is 5.54 (without long beam) & 6.06 with long beam, i lose only 12 seconds.
Long beam skip is pretty Uncessary/worse trick if you don,t try perfect run. Hive room save really much time if you have long beam. It is reason why long beam way is only 12-15 sec slower.
I recommend. If you have trouble made single wall jumps, hi jump boots can help you with tourian escape. But if you have trouble made bomb jump speedboosters are good/better idea.
Don,t collect energy tanks, my opinion it is better if you get only couple SM expansions and at least 2 missile expansions (4-6 missile max). You can get 6 optional items if you try 15% ending.
I think fire powers help you much more than energy tanks. +Speedbooster or hi jump can help you much with Tourian escape.
I find that trick over years ago. And i use that my current any-% run and my current low-% run.
I think it is easier take hit if you wait when boss jumps. It is little manipulate but overall pretty simple trick. If you have really much lucky you can kill Empy 3 really fast, i think in 10-15 seconds. But my battle took almost every attempt almost one minutes or more.
Actually you can get sub 45 minutes, probably sub 44 if you keep your speed up.
Well MR.X is back. Probably we can see lot very good low-% run here in near future.
I finally watch all parts. What i find, annoying there are no all parts available yet.
I think route itself is slower but this run includes lot good stuffs.
Just like his one left side room missile expansion in kraid lair, you can made ball jump quickly and grap ziplines.  It is definitely 1-2 seconds faster method than my.
I think one good time saver is skip first gate/pirate alert on suitless samus part. It save almost 5 seconds game time. I think it is very possible on console. Almost all his TAS tricks is possible doing out on console. I think this run was pretty human skill run.
Route itself is so weird, it is probably very hard get that Chozodia first energy tank without screw attack. And when your must be back Ridley lair again it took lot time.
But definitely this run includes lot good speedtrick. I think it is possible complete 100% in 54 minutes on console.
I find one 100% TAS run on youtube. He use different route than WR player.
This run is TAS but it is pretty slow TAS run. His run looks like human skills possible. His clear time is 54.08.
Last escape was pretty darn slow on TAS. His escape was 4.02 time left and my best escape on console is 2 seconds faster than his TAS ( My best Chozodia escape is 4.04.1x time left and SPidey Widey is 0.20 seconds faster than me). Yeah this is pretty human skill run expect power grip pit. Annoying there are only 7 part +last escape available.
I don,t know is it his route faster than WR route, but it pretty interesting route and this run looks human skill possible.
I don,t see idea why he get varia suit early because i don,t watched all segments yet.
But probably this video includes couple new speedtrick and probably better route.
EDIT: His must be back Ridley lair later game i think it made game slower, but there is many faster place if you use that route. If route itself is slower than WR route, there are still probably couple good time saver solved out on console.
After i complete my 100% 56.38 run. I found couple little time saver, but too late. I think i can improve my 100% time sub 56 minutes, but i think i am lazy try that again because my 56.38 was one best run ever what i ever complete. It looks like minutes faster than DD SS run because i use 14 save points here, i think new single segment records can be very high 54 minutes. But i don,t have enought concenstration doing that single segment.
Are you new moderator Jagger-G? I wonder your name reads green color text.
go go go Tonski.
Only 59 sec slower than my best. Keep it up.
I think you can beat MR.X 46 minutes time if you want.
MR.X one best low-% player ever. He beat 1% SS Fusion in 1.06 & he beat Zero mission 9% segmented run in 46 minutes.
Tonski you have change get 43-44 minutes if you keep your speed up. I remember MR.X MB battle was almost minutes faster than my best battle ever. I don,t understand this, but probably my MB battle suck little bit. We can see.
Best time low-% 22%: 2.47
I finally beat my normal mode 22% run.
-36 segments (35 save point) -I don,t use secret worlds. -I don,t skip grapple beam -Only 22% items: 0 et, 50 beam, 2pb, 10 missiles
-This is pretty avarage run, but my clear time surprised me, it was only 3 minutes slower than djgrenola 20% with secret worlds run. and my goal was sub 3 hours.
-My route was different than any-% route. I get dark suit because you need it on low-% run.
-I get seeker launcher before Chykka, because chykka is faster and easier if you have 10 missiles max
-I,ve must be beat PB guardian early, because you don,t can get early power bombs on low-%.
This don,t look as good than my current any-% run. My Screw attack segment was pretty horrible because i miss roll jump at least 4 times. There is one hard roll jump in screw attack room before screw attack.
My Spider guardian segment was almost 1-2 minutes slower than my current any-% run. I hate this boss and i don,t have enought patience try beat that fast enought
My Dark samus 2 segment was pretty horrible. It was almost 2 minutes slower than my best any-% run segment.
Quadraxis is hardest battle in the game and Quadraxis went very good. Everythink works and i died only 4-5 times.
Emperor ing battle suck.  I beat this in first tries
Empy 1 in three round Empy 2 it was good Empy 3 Pretty horrible i miss couple screw attack hit and i lose at least 1-2 minutes
Dark samus was good enought, took couple deaths
This run is very easy improve, i think almost 10 minutes or more.
I think Kip low-% hard mode run is very easy improve, but i really wonder why nobody never try beat that. It is easy get sub 3 hours, because this my normal mode low-% run was pretty avarage and i am amateur 3d metroid speedrunner.
I think i try sub 2 hours any-% run someday. low-% don,t interested me right now.
You are good runner Tonski. keep your speed up, you can get sub 50 minutes
SDA don,t includes 9% normal mode records, my 9% time is over 4 minutes faster than ajbolt89 hard low-% time. Many points is possible beat faster 10% hard than 9% normal. He use SM route. his Kraid battle was really darn fast, because Kraid shot faster sickles and he have one SM against his mouth.
Barrier part before Mother brain is faster too. And Robot ridley is possible beat darn fast if you have good SM refill luck. couple points is slower on SM route: Example Ridley lair, Acid worm, Tourian and Chozodia suit segment.
My best 10% Hard is 50.53 and i complete that 4 missile route, because my opinion SM soute is much harder speedrun but theoretical it is much faster way.
But my 9% normal mode time is probably best 9% time in the world. It is still probably possible beat sub 40 minutes on console, but it,s must be very hard.
Best 100% time: 1.10 (PAL-versio)
-23 segments (22-save) -Well i finally complete that run. This is same run as my 1.12, but i improiving couple segments again on my third save copy file.
-I get spore sprawn SM expansion without crystal flash -This run looks pretty much same as my previous one, but probably it is little bit faster. My Draygon battle was amazing job and my Botwoon was in 3 round battle.
-I skip energy recharge before Mother brain, it is harder but still faster way
-I don,t use murder beam. Probably i can get 1.09 ending with murder beam, but it is most stupid metroid game glitch ever. It is very irritating.
lowest possible time with my skill is probably 1.08, but i must be skip save points and i need lot motivations try that. Right now i don,t have enought motivations improve that because my run was pretty good.
Ghetto method is probably good idea. But annoying only flashplayer videos working my computer. I think i don,t can watch that ghetto method, because there are no flash player.
But thanks. I try that ghetto method, because i belive it is my only hope doing that trick.
Right now i working 22% normal mode run, i don,t try good run, because i am lazy. But someday i want get sub 2 hours any-% run. But yeah i must be practice lot time saver before that.
I have too big trouble jump onto the spider track. I watch sparky video he jump first onto the enemy, but i don,t can jump onto the enemy because i falling everytime down when i try jump onto the rezbiz. Rezbiz is too slick and i slide everytime down when i try doing that trick.
I read bsj method on metroid2002 main page, but double bsj don,t give enought height. I don,t see any different double or triple bsj, both give same more height. Bsj don,t working here in my opinion.
Morph slot jumping looks hard, but i never can practice that because i never can jump onto the track.
You can get Hall of comabt mastery missile expansion without spider ball and you can skip long spider ball maze.
This is good shortcuts on 100% speedrun.
You can get early missiles without spider ball and you can skip spider ball maze, if i remember right: Sparky don,t use that.
This save almost 30-40 seconds game time.
Jump double bsj and continued screw attack. You can skip long spider ball maze. It save almost 30 seconds your time. But this trick is pretty hard, took first time almost 30 attempt. But still if anybody want save lot time this is very good shortcuts on 100% run.
I think ghetto method is still randomly because S_E miss that 8 times on his run. S_E have extremely skills and he miss that many times. But he don,t still restart game.
My method is easier.
And piccolocube what you mean when you said not on the first trip?
I think your must be pass that room only one time (after early PB expansion) just like S_E run. And you have early screw attack before that room.
S_E have screw attack but he don,t use that method. He use that ghetto method and he miss that 7-8 times.
Actually you have screw attack and power bomb.
Well. I can du instant unmorph trick 0% of the time. I trying that almost one hour but it don,t never working. I tire try that.
But today i find single bsj assist screw attack jump. It was actually pretty easy for me.
Nice man you founded that before me. :P
But anybody don,t never mention that trick here. When you watch metroid2002 main page there read only one method.
But well this is very good method on single segment run. Because morph jump is extremely randomly.
I am still pretty proud because i found that without help.
NO secret worlds!!!!
My method is simply bsj and screw attack across spider track. I don,t use secret worlds.
I found much easier way complete hall of combat mastery without spider ball.
When you use single bsj opposite spider track and continued jump screw attack over spider track.
This method is much easier than S_E or Sparky method, but theoretical it is probably little bit slower (3-4 sec). But it is much easier way complete this hard room fast enought if you don,t have enought skills or luck.
I never can complete S_E method but this my new method is pretty easy. I can complete that very easily.
I working first barrier almost 3 hours but i tire because first barrier is easiest all and i never break that barrier.
I think third and fourth barriers is almost humanly impossible. Just like as impossible as fusion 0% run.
Well first metroid part is pretty hard on 10% hard mode. Especially it is much harder on 9% (PAL) hard mode.
I beat both metroid parts but first barrier stopped my 9% hard mode run. My opinion it is humanly impossible beat barrier segment only 2 missiles max. I think it is only theoretical possible on console.
Robot ridley is itself pretty easy, but his randomly attack ruined easily 9% normal SS run
Heh nice man. 9% normal in 56 and 10% hard in 1.14. :P
almost as good as my first low-% runs long time ago.
Jagger-g. Are you planned try 9% run sub 40 minutes?
You can get close my 41.35 minutes 9% normal run.
I definitely belive sub 40 is very possible.
Thanks compliments guys!
All screw attack no spider trick caused too much trouble. 1: Watch station morph slot jump. 2 Transit station power bomb without spider ball. 3 spider track morph ball jump without spider ball. S_E miss that 7-8 times.
I never can made these trick.
*****COMMENTS MY RUN************ Just yesterday i learnt double bsj, and finally i can du that trick almost 90% of the time. But it is very annoying because i learn that too late. I don,t use dark forgoten bridge shortcuts in my run after boost guardian because i learn that trick too late. :|
It made game at least 1 minutes faster beat, my possible clear time can be 2.06, but anyway.
+My run includes at least 5 minutes pure mistakes. I lose 20 seconds against chykka adult. 15-20 seconds against Quadraxis. My boost guardian was in 2 round fight (i never can du in one round fight)
I miss one round emperor ing first form, my battle was in two round. I lose almost 20 seconds against Empy 3. My last dark samus was good. 5.4x time left.
Screw attack segment was avarage. I miss two time roll jump and falling one time down. My agon wastes segment was slow. My Bomb guardian was in 3 round battle and i miss couple charge shots against jump guardian.
My best segment my run was definitely dark samus 2 segment. I beat that segment in 3 minutes. Battle itself took 20-30 seconds beat, just like S_E. I was happy my spider guardian battle because everythink went very well here.
I think i can get theoretical very close 2 hours run with my route if everythink working as good as i want. But right now i am absolutelu too lazy try that run again because i working that only three weeks and almost 30 hours.
EDIT: I just practice lot new tricks. Now i practice transit station early PB without spider ball. It actually pretty easy. Of course it took first time many tries, but now i can du it pretty easily. It is possible apply that my next speedrun.
But i not never can complete hall of combat mastery and watch stations without spider ball. I don,t understand why hall of combat mastery trick is impossible for me. It looks pretty easy.
Watch station is impossible without spider ball for me. I don,t have enought Sbreak skills or i don,t understand that idea.
Sub 30 minutes team wait you next.!!!
Best time: 2.07 (without Secret Worlds) :P
-I use SDA time rules (no SW and no wall crawl) -4 minutes better than Radix old WR and 9 minutes better than my previous one
-27 segments (26 save points)
-38% item (5et, 150 beam ammo, 3pb, 55m)
-This run was amazing and overall very good. I working almost 3 weeks my run and 20-30 hours total.
-I am very satisfied my run, my final time really surprised me.
-Same route as last time, i don,t use WR route. I get spider ball before screw attack and i don,t skip grapple beam, both trick caused too much trouble for me.
-My run includes overall 4-5 minutes pure mistakes and if i someday try improve that sub 2 hours i must be practice better route. I think there are no way get sub 2 hours goal with my route.
-Everysingle part went good and i don,t made any major mistakes.
-My run includes couple amazing segments and couple avarage segments and many good parts.
-Couple parts caused real trouble. Under water dash segment took almost 4 hours, Alpha blogg  skip lase ghetoo segment took almost 3 hours and Spider guardian segment almost 3 hours and two days complete. Screw attack segment was one avarage segment, i working long but i never improve that much enought.
-I practice couple new time saver and less many savepoints.
-This was very well run.
I think i try 22% speedrun next. Its easy improve my 5.50 time here. Or i try hard mode any-% run and try improve my worst 2.59 time.
But right now i am very happy man. This run took extremely long beat and my time was really good in my opinion. Now i get long break.
Sounds nice Piccolocube.
Now i have 1.41 in Great temple, it is almost 7 minutes faster than my 2.16 run.
I don,t very happy yet. I probably try beat Quadraxis segment again and i want try skip manigyro chamber save. It save at least 30 seconds, but last time i was too cautions and i don,t skip that save point.
Quadraxis is pretty darn hard and very irritating boss. Took almost 15 attempt beat that fast enought only 5 ET max & without dark suit. I don,t want play that again, but i can save lot time if i next time dare skip manigyro chamber save point.
I must be try it again in my third copy save file.
EDIT: 1.40 Great temple save.
I finally dare skip main gyro chamber save. My Quadarxis went pretty well, of course it possible beat 15-20 seconds faster, but it is too hard and frustrating for me. Segment overall was avarage, i have little bit toruble get ing hive key. I falling one time down (Stupid screw attack ) And before Quadraxis i miss bsj jump 2 times.  :(  My segment includes almost one minutes pure mistakes, but it was still pretty avarage and good, because this is 11 minutes long segment. And really difficult beat fast enought.
I get manipulate PB refill, it was pretty easy because PB refill appeared pretty often. Theoretical if everything working as good as last time my possible clear time is 2.08-2.09.
We can see, can i complete that run. hopefully i don,t forget sky temple keys or something bad happens. !!!!!! :|
Well that,s nice.
1.17 is still very amazing  NTSC versio time. I think if you practice lot you can get sub 1.13 someday.
Are you never planned speedrun PAL versio run? I think Stefan WR run is overall little bit easier beat than smilingjack NTSC run.  Your homeworld is France you can buy PAL versio.
We can see!
Good luck.
Iowa your run is new WR time. Stefan single segment time was 1.19. It is 2 minutes slower than your. And you said your run includes tons mistakes. That is incredible works. Probably we can see new PAL versio WR time.
I think you play PAL versio because your home world is France.
Very nice job piccolocube your run is really good. I interested see your new any-% time. I think you can get sub 2 hours if you have enought patience try it. Sub 2.10 is easily possible your skill.
my time is 1.26 before Dark samus 2 on my any-% run. It is almost 6 minutes faster than my 2.16 run. But i don,t very happy my segment, i want get 1.25 before dark samus.
I don,t happy because i made couple mistake, i miss roll jump two time:
1: I miss watch station access roll jump one time. 2: I miss screw attack room roll jump one time. I use that because this is good shortcuts. I can skip dark world part.
+I falling one time down it was my own stupid mistake.
I can du at least 15 seconds faster segment, but this segment frustrated because i need two manipulate PB refill here.
I finally get almost perfect Spider-G fight. Took overall two days and almost 5 hours attempt.
Good luck once again Piccolocube we can see lot good time here.!! :P
Who can have perfect luck? I think nobody can have perfect luck on console.
Perfect luck definitely save at least 10 seconds on any-% run.
Planned anybody speedrun 10% Hard mode TAS? If you have perfect SM refill luck on Tourian you can beat really fast Tourian segment if all metroids drops SM refill. It save at least 4 minutes on 10 Hard mode run. Ajbolt89 run metroids drop only 2-3 SM refill. It is theoretical possible beat at least 3-4 minutes faster Tourian, but i think nobody can have TAS luck here.
Screenshot here:
This is Raccoon sam fake/hack rom. It is impossible on console.
No possible. Game itself is possible beat without using power grip, but you not can pass norfair tentacle. Nothing works against tentacle.
Tentacle disappear when you get power grip. Weird.!!!!!!
Once again new guy joined sub 30 minutes team. Congrats jagger-G very nice run. I think you beat Kraid first. It is first sub 30 minutes completion kraid first route.
There are 7 peoples now
1: Spidey Widey: 28.04 2: Transience: 28.50 3: Eagle: 29.25 4: Gamecube04: 29.54 5: MASTER-88: 29.55 6: Moctroid: 29.57 7: Jagger-g: 29.59
Sorry if i forget mention somebody my list Congrats everybody!!!!
Sub 30 minutes is very great time.
Thomaz is probably next sub 30 minutes man.!!! We can see it next!!!
Good luck man, i have too much trouble try 100% run in WR route. I never ever can complete Sparky route, because i am amateur 3d sbreaker. Any-% run route is pretty easy sbreak route.
Still i have over 3 hours restart with under water dashes. And laser ghetto and alpha blohg skip segment took almost two days complete fast enought.
Now i have really big touble beat spider guardian fast enought, this boss is hardest boss beat perfectly in the game, this fight suck every attempt, everytime i have 40-50 seconds pure mistake here. Luckily i have 3 copy save file before Spider-G. I want get much better fight.
****Wait!!! Piccolocube****
You said you planned use secret worlds your 100% run. I think real speedrun rules (SDA) don,t allow secret worlds runs.  Probably SW route is faster, i think.
I am curious whats Sbreak route you use your current best any-% run?
My route is same as Radix, but couple route changes: example i skip ing hive keys and i get out alpha blogs room. I use great bridge bsj and my sky temple key route is little bit different and i get early power bomb in Tranisist station.
Spidey Widey already said his tourian escape is 27 seconds (1.33 time left), his strategy is little bit difference than Transience, i don remember very good, but he don,t use wall jump as much as Transience. Still i don,t understand his speed. Because my Tourian escape is almost everytime 30 seconds.
Heh Transience Mother brain battle was amazing and his escape was better than my escape ever, and i really wonder how you dare play chozodia without save and without energy recharge after your perfect MB segment.
My MB battle was 2-4 seconds slower and escape 1-2 seconds slower than your and it took 3 hours attempt and i still never ever care take that risk try complete chozodia suitless part without save point, because i died very easily here if i am enought nervous.
Yeah right now i have 4 energy tank, but i know that roll jump energy tank in watch station acess. When i get it i have 5 energy tank max.
I really think it is hard fight because your must be are lucky and fast. Last time it caused couple deaths and drain lot my energy, theoretical i can survive against him 5 et max, but i think it caused much trouble beat it only 5 nergy tank max. +Your must be survive save your game and save point located pretty far.
Hopefully i can beat that, it is extremely annoying miss my run against Quadraxis, because everythink else working very well yet. Hopefully i dont forget any sky temple keys or forget any route or somethink else bad happen. This run nervous me little bit right now.
Very nice job Piccolocube. I working on my sub 2.10 minutes run. I have 1 minutes ahead Radix (2.11) run before boost Guardian. If i keep my speed up i have very good change get sub 2.10 run.
EDIT: 50 minutes after Boost guardian. Radix time was 52 minutes. I have 1-2 minutes ahead Radix 2.11 run. I beat Boost Guardian in two rounds. I was death after boost guardian. I survive only 6 energy point left my save point.
EDIT 2: 1.03 Samus aran ship save great temple. 4-5 minutes ahead my 2.16 run. My chykka battle was medicore, but i dont like try that again.  I have almost 1-2 minutes ahead Radix 2.11 run.
I probably doing stupid award when i skip energy tank before Chykka. I think i can have in future really big trouble beat Quadraxis only 5 energy tank max and without dark suit.
It boss caused couple deaths my last run (6 et max). Hopefully i not miss my run.   5 energy tank max made game probably too hard beat.
I dont have S_E skills. S_E have only 3 et max, but he is millions time faster player than me.
Congrats Mochtroid. You are 6 th person sub 30 minutes team.
GREAT JOB MAN..........!!! 8-)
Hell yeah Tourian is very annoying part on any-% run. It was only part that took very long time beat my 29.55 run. Metroid segment took amost 3 hours still i have only 46/50m max and Mother brain segment took almost 3 hours. SM refill with green rinkas frustrated me and boss is hard and randomly. And you falling acid pool very easily. After three hour i finally got good boss fight and good escape and i use Chozodia sutiless part save.
It is main reason why i use that save my any-% run. I hate manipulate luck segments.
Yeah!
ajbolt 100% hard is overall pretty slow segmented run. His any-% was stil veryl good. I like his last semgent. It  was 2 seconds faster than Transience run last segment.
His SDA run was 30.22. I dont know is he trying that category after his 30.22 run. he definitely can get sub 30 minutes.
Actually sutiless part save not made game much slower. I remember my 100% best run (56.38) I dont use suitless part save here, still that segment was only 4 seconds faster than previous (57.15) speedrun with sutiless part save. 57.15 includes extremely fast chzo fight, boss diagrams appeared very fast. My 56.38 run (without sutiless part save run) includes without miss shot fight but boss diagrams appeared pretty slow. I think i lose 5-6 seconds my Chozo fight.
I think Chozo boss is so randomly, boss diagrams appeared randomly everytime, perfect diagrams save at least 6 seconds or more game time, but perfect diagrams appeared almost 5% of the time. I recommend you save before Chozo boss or middle chozodia if you want beat perfect chozo fight. It is too frustrating combination try perefct Mother brain and Chopzo boss on any.% run, because Mother brain is extremely hard beat fast enought and chozo boss is 90% lucky.
EDIT: Very nice job Mochtroid, you probably someday joined sub 30 minutes team.
I remember there are only 5. peoples get sub 30 minutes run:
1: Spidey Widey: 28.04 2 :Transience: 28.50 (Current WR in SDA) 3: Eagle: 29.25 4: Game cube04: 29.54 5: MASTER-88: 29.55
Probably Jagger-g or Thomaz joined next. But you have good change mochtroid, but you need much more practice yet. I think i can get someday sub 29.30. But right now i not have enought motivations try that again. 29.55 is enought good time for me.
Still you have very good change get sub 30 run. My time was 17.34 and i have only 46/50m 4/4 sm max before Mother brain. My time was 29.55 and i use both Chozodia savepoints and i lose time with saves at least 24 seconds.
If you continued your game right now i am sure you can get easily sub 30 minutes.
I decide try Echoes speedrun next. I try improve my 2.16 run sub 2.10.
Segment 1 complete: 0.04 Before Alpha spliter
Segment 2 complete: 0.08. (i think 45 sec over) Agon wastes save
Next segment is very hard, one hardest and longest in the game. I try use first time jump guardian trick. Annoying sparky video in youtube not working today, probably i see that video tommorow.
I have at least 15 sec ahead my previous run (2.16). Now i learn many time saver, i can improve lot time. We can see can i improve my time. I love Echoes, very nice game, but next segment is still nightmare because it is too long and jump guardian cheap trick is very hard/annoying.
EDIT: Well it took couple days i finally complete Agon wastes.
My time Torvus bog first save is: 0.34
-It is at least over minutes faster than my 2.16 run.
Next segment caused everytime trouble because great bridge bsj is randomly and hard, why it give everytime different more height?
There are lot manipulate refills, because i have only 15 missile max. I get same items as S_E. Silent echo run is really incredible i use almost all my skill, but i never can get as fast run as him. But i try beat Radix old WR time (2.11). It is enought hard challenge for me. My route is almost same as Radix, still i have couple more speedtricks.
I improving my total metroids times once again:
ANY-% Super Metroid: 0.47 Metroid Fusion: 0.54 Metroid Zero Mission: 0.29 Metroid Prime: 2.41 Metroid Prime 2 echoes: 2.16 Metroid Prime Hunters: 16.10
LOW-% Metroid Fusion: 0.57 (1%) Metroid Zero mission: 0.41 (9%) Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 5.50 (22%)
100% Super Metroid: 1.12 Metroid fusion: 1.22 Metroid Zero Mission: 0.56 Metroid Prime: almost 8 hours Metroid prime 2 echoes: too much (i think 12 hours)
-i think i must be complete orginal metroid once again so i can increase my total time possible low, but i don,t like that game. I must be practice lot, because game is hard try complete without deaths.
Well! thanks. :P
Ok when i next time practice that trick, i try use my ears. I not know help it me, but i want trying.
It unmorph is hard because you need perfect timing, and your must be use your joystick and (X-button) instant unmorph after last bomb. I almost everytime miss that unmorph, i timing wrong or something.
I not know is it Sparky complete that run yet. I watch his incredible test run in youtube. It looks incredible fast, but why he calling that test run?
What is his real run?
There are couple really difficult room without spider ball. I have real trouble bomb jumping & unmorph after Flaahgra, it is too risky, i can du it only 1-2% of the time. Took easily 50-100 attempt complete that. i think it is too hard apply that speedrun.
metroid quarantine A is really hard without spider ball, i practice Pirate109 method but still not never working.
Probably next time (if i someday try that run again) I try get spider ball later game (after Phazon mines), still i not planned skip that yet.
Best time: 2.41 (PAL- versio) :P
-My first run (test run) -This run was really horrible and very slow, but still that took almost one week complete. This is really hard game, hardest speedrun game ever what i played. I think this is 4x harder than Echoes. My echoes best time is 25 minutes faster than my orginal prime time.
-I not use WR route -i use my own little Sbreak route
-I get Space jump first -I get early missiles -I skip Grapplebeam and gravity suit. -I use Flaahgra quick kill -I not skip Spider ball because it is absolutelu too hard -I use many savepoints
MY HUGE MISTAKES -Under water ghetto took at least minutes -Double bomb jump over high gate before Phazon mines took almost 3 minutes -I choose wrong way many times -Everything part suck here. -All ghetto jumps caused much trouble -I lose at least minutes game time in Ore Prosessing
41% item (6et 35m 6pb)
This game is so horrible speedrun. I think i am lazy try again that run, because i died & restart many times but still my time suck. i think sub 2 hours is very possible on my route. My route is much slower than WR route and i have PAL versio.
I want see Sparky sub hour run, i really wonder how hell it is possible.
Very nice job Tonski, it is very good first run. I think if you paractice lot you can easily get sub 35 min run someday. Only couple peoples here can get sub 30 minutes myself includes, but it is very hardcore run.
We can see can Jagger-g and Thomaz get sub 30 goal next.
Sounds very nice man. You get sub hour 100% on TAS.
I still wait your crazy 1% SS video (sub 55 minutes.) It must be coolest Fusion video ever.
Hopefully you recorded it soon.
Sounds nice Thomaz. You have 4 sec ahead my 29.55 run. Are you planned skip Chozodia suitless part save?
It can save your time at least 12 seconds. I not skip that because i was lazy try perfect post stealth segment because i hate Mother Brain. But anyway i still got sub 30 minutes and i am satisfied. But of course if you skip both Chozodia save you can get at least 20 seconds better clear time than me. But you need more amount skill, if you planned skip both Chozodia saves.
And Nice run jagger-G. Still you can get sub 30 minutes someday. But i know sub 30 goal is really difficult and frustrating. And if i read correctly you use HBJ route.
Damn Tonski. Your run is new Finland records. Your run sounds much better than my own, because you use almost all Crazy trick and i use Smokey trick and Smokey style play that game. Still i get only minutes slower time.
But you can definitely get faster, i think 43 minutes. You are most skillfull Super Metroid player. I think i try next time improve your run, but i still use Smokey style, because Hotarubi style is too hard & frustrating. I not can understand how hell you can complete pillar room with spacejump and how hell you can use that super quick charge trick without dying.
Botwoon quick kill is hardest boss trick in the game, i can du it 0% of the time. You are crazy man. Congrats!!!!! :P
Best time: 0.47 (PAL versio)
-4 minutes faster than my previous -17 segment (16 saves) -30% collection items (45m 5et 0rt 15sm 5pb) & Smokey items -I mimic lot like Smokey & Scarlet run, because all Hotarubi trick looks impossible complete. Just i not never can understand his mock ball. I can du it 0% of the time. Example gate hater trick is impossible because i not can complete hotarubi mock ball.
-I use kraid quick kill -I use Smokey method against Phantoom -I use charge beam only against botwoon, just like Smokey SS run. -Draygon: Smokey method -Pillar room with power bombs, shine spark is too hard complete on PAL versio. -I use barrier glitch without dying -I not use murder beam, because i not like that trick
-This was pretty nice run. I think PAL versio is almost 5 minutes slower than NTCS, because one guy (I not remember his name right now) his best time with NTCS was 37 min and his best time on PAL was 42 min.
-But probably i try sub 44 min next. But now i continued my 100% run once again, hopefully i can get sub 1.10 ending.
Best time 100% Hard mode single segment: 1.05.02
-5.54 minutes better than my previous hard 100% SS run
-This was very good SS run without any save points and without deaths. -I was bit cautions, because you died very easily on hard mode. Enemys drain 50% more energy and all expansion give less fire powers
-I am happy my run, because it was overall very good SS
Comments_ -I get early varia suit, because this run was hard mode -I get both map computer hits -I have little bit trouble get pulse bombu room energy tank, because that enemy shoot beam randomly and stoped shine spark easily -My tourian was pretty slow, because i not remember any metroid located place.
-But yeah this was pretty nice run. Still i miss 1.04 ending, because stupid clocks looks 2 seconds over. Red Scarlet old WR segmented was 1.04, i think my run looks almost as good as, but there are no saves. JES!!!!! :P
WHOA!!!!!
Hopefully you recorded. I really want see your run.
Well. I think 53 min 1% SS is only theoretical possible on console, but can anybody really complete that?
Your must be are bit cautions, because many enemys kill you in 1-2 hit, and without save you need extremely lucky dodge, avoid all little mistake. It is really frustrating.
Kridly SS run was amazing his eye door lucky working almost perfectly and he have 3 et and 35 missile max. It made game at least millions time easier than 1% run.
I have really trouble beat Big core X in 4 hit on 1% run, because boss caused randomly damage per hit, sometimes boss drains 40 energy point sometimes 20. I think it is theoretical impossible complete that in 4 hits without saves. Took at least 3-4 hours complete that in 4 hits my 57 min 1% run. Any-% battle is at least 1000000 times easier beat in 4 hits because you have enought energy tanks max.
I think your must be bit cautions against Yakuza (second forms) and Ridley. Ridley is pure lucky if you use Wassup dawgs method. Wassupdawgs method is much faster than Dragondarch method
Second trouble is enemys. Enemys moves very randomly and located everytimes different places. You need lot manipulate lucky if you try moves fast enought on 1% game. This not caused trouble on any-% SS, but in 1% SS, everysingle enemy ruined your game really fast, if you don,t are enought cautions. Can anybody have enought manipulate luck complete that in 53 min?
Third reasons is eyedoors, you not can have perfect luck here. I think 10-15 beams on SS run is really good total. But still you lose lot times.
But we can see. I can belive next 1% SS records is 58-59 minutes. And still sub hour is really amazing 1% SS run.
go go go crazy mans. Almost every attempt is suicide JEEEEE
I mean missile blocks before screw attack blocks (second room).
Yes there are couple missile block of floor. You found blocks easily if you use your morph ball bombs.
Aargh today is really bad day.
I trying couple times SS run again, i wanna got that easily sub 32 minutes, but both tries i miss acid worm skip.  Why hell i miss that almost every single segment attempt?
I hate that trick. It is suicide.
My 32 minutes SS is overall pretty slow run. I know i can get it faster because my multi segment is 29.55. I can see my possible SS goal 30-31 minutes if everything working as good as i planned. But everytime that acid worm skip break my dreams.  ,  :(
This run is pure suicide.
My best 1% multi segment is 57 and it took almost 2 weeks and many, many, many deaths complete.
go go go guys.
I wondering if somebody can complete that.
Biospark are you trying speedrun 1% segmented run? What is your best time?
Your SS goal sounds human impossible if you mean try 53 minutes without any saves.
Very nice job Jagger-G i see your SS is better than me. Seriously you said kraid first. This mean you use HBJ across acid pool right?
Crazy man! I have too much trouble made that, i complete that trick only one time and it took almost 2 hours.
Probably if you can complete that trick you can break easily ajbolt89 hard mode WR time. I think sub 33 minutes is very possible on hard mode. I have too much trouble complete HBJ, it is very frustrating try complete that run. HBJ only reason break my dream try sub 33 minutes hard mode run.
Good luck everybody!!!! :P
We can see lot new records here.
Yes
I mean Kraid lair save took 8 seconds because it located back of corner. Normal save point took 6 seconds.
Thanks
If you keep your speed up. You are next sub 30 minutes man here.
Good luck! I can say. I really hate barrier and Mother brain segment.
Best time: 0.29.55
-Finally sub 30 minutes -8.segment (7-save point) -26% items
-Save 1: Norfair after PG (5.54) -Save 2: Ridley lair before boss (9.25) -Save 3: Kraid lair (13.06) -Save 4 Tourian (16.10) -Save 5:Tourian before boss (17.34)
-Save 6: Chozodia suitless part (19.36) -Save 7: Last save (same as Transience) (25.28)
Clear time: 29.55
-I lose time with saves 6+6+8+6+6+12+12= 56 seconds -I complete that run in three day.
-Good luck everybody!!!!! Who is next sub 30 man???????
I think Double SM shots against MB is uncessary on any-% run, because you dont have enought missiles and super missiles. But it can save your time your 100% run.
Well my time on Chozodia first save:
19.36 (25 seconds ahead)
-1 seconds slower segment than last time, but it took only 3 hours complete MB fast enought. My MB was still 2 seconds slower than Transience battle. -Yeah i need 6 seconds better chozoida than last time, probably it is too hard. I don,t remeber is it my Chozodia fast my currents run, but we can see it.
Go go go Thomaz
My time in Tourian before barrier: 17.34 (26 sec ahead)
- Very annoying metroid segment took almost 4 hours complete fast enought, still i have only 45/50 m and 4/4 sm before barriers.
-Mother brain is pretty darn hard beat fast enought and green rinkas drop super missile refill very rarery. + I have sometimes trouble made MB shine spark and map computer skip without dying.
i working couple hours that segment but still my time suck everytime. This part is pure nightmare. Still i planned use save before suitless part. Sutiless part caused everytime much trouble and Chozo boss is randomly.
I must be save 5 seconds yet, but it is extremely difficult.
Damn
My time in Tourian 16.10 (19 sec ahead)
-I hate Kraid lair side hopper room. I miss two double shots once again. But still everything else working perfectly.
This is my final time only one seconds better segment than last time. I need 12 seconds ahead yet so i can get sub 30 minutes.
We can see.
I decide try sub 30 any-% run segmented next. Ok Thomaz. *********************************** Segment 1: Norfair after power grip 5.54 (2 sec ahead)
Segment 2: Before Ridley: 9.25 (7 sec ahead)
Segment 3: Kraid lair: 13.06 (11 sec ahead)
Segment 4: Tourian save: 16.11 (18 sec ahead) *******************************************
I need 31 seconds better run than last time, now i have 18 sec ahead my previous run.
We looking can i get sub 30 minutes it is probably too hard. Today is pretty good day, i can du acid worm skip at least 25% of the time.
EDIT: Damn Thomaz your first semgent was pretty darn good. 5.43. My is 5.54 and my opinion my 5.54 is almost perfect. Probably you use faster hive room method.
EDIT 2: i probably try improve my Kraid lair segment little bit a tommorow, it was good, but i still miss two spider double shot in side hopper room.
Transience time in tourian was 15.40 i am 30 seconds slower. I have very good change get sub 30. If i am as fast as Transience i can theoretical get under 29.30. But i think it is absolutelu too hard.
Thanks.
I understand you very good. This is your first run.
When you practice lot you can get everytime faster run.
Ok thanks guys.
Thomaz: Yeah i have good refill luck in Tourian. Tourian and Mother brain was one definitely best part my run. And good luck your sub 30 minutes run, hopefully you can get it
MR.X: You ask stupid question for me, but i still answers.
-I not know why i have trouble skip acid worm, but my opinion it it pure lucky. Probably you are better. But i was very lucky man, because i can du it only 10% of the time. And i can miss it 90% of the time.
-Just i get 4 energy tank. I get one more before Tourian, because Suitless samus part scared me and i was very nervous after acid worm skip. It is pretty same get i that ET because it took only 4 seconds game time.
-I get long beam, because i was lazy try hive room. I hate hive room so much. This is first run my life when i get long beam. I next time promise skip that.
-I get 8 SM because almost every time i miss one Super missile against MEcha ridley. I never try skip that expansions on SS run. 60 missile made Tourian possible beat faster. My opinion it is better idea get 60 missile on SS run.
-My sutiless part was really horrible. I made 45-50 seconds pure mistakes here. I not can understand but it really was horrible part.
-This not my coolest speedrun, but of course my run includes good parts. I not know try i improve that someday, because Acid worm skip nervous me everytime.
-Yeah i can get sub 32 very easily, probably sub 31 on single segment., but AW skip is only reason why i not want try perfect SS run.
Best time single segment: 0.32.23
-1.12 minutes faster than my previous -I skip Acid worm first tries. REALLY!!! I WAS CRAZY & EXTREMELY LUCKY I can du it only 10% of the time. This is very big risk
-Overall my run are pretty slow. It is definitely overall almost minutes slower than my previous one (without AW skip run). -My Suitless samus part was very worse, this is definitely possible complete almost minutes faster but i was so nervous after acid worm skip, this is crazy trick on SS run.
-I get long beam. My opinion long beam made game much easier beat faster. -My item colletction rate was 32%. (4 et, 60m 8sm) Just what i already said i was cautions because acid worm skip is pure lucky for me.
-I am so happy my run. Still my run was pretty slow, but i am happy because i made acid worm skip without dying on SS run.
JES!! :P
Sub 50 100% SS possible?
-I sometimes wonder is it Hotarubi speedruns real runs on console -His any-% Manipulate refill luck was excellent (looks like TAS) and he complete almost all very difficult tricks without dying. Looks impossible.
Probably Hotarubi is best player in the world. It is very hard belive is it sub 50 100% SS possible on console. I think 47 without slowdown is pretty darn good. i think it is no human run.
I really want see that SS run. Sub 50 min 100% without saves sounds impossible and it definitely is it.
I finally finished watching Hotarubi run.
It was definitely coolest run ever on console. His run looks like pretty much Terimakashis TAS run.
There are so weird speedtricks and Hotarubi manipulate luck was almost perfect. Cool and lucky man! 8-)
His mock ball was weird, he use different mock ball method than me. Just like gate hater trick is impossible my mock ball method.
His Botwoon, Draygon and Mother brain battle was very insanes battles, looks like TAS. Phantoom battle was pretty slow, but hell yeah it was still better battle than my segmented run Phantom battle.
This run was best ever in the world!!!!
We can wait Blue glass 100% SS run next. 100% run is harder than any-%. I really want see his as perfect 100% SS run someday.
I just finished watching it. It was so great run. I like especially his ridley lair part, he have last energy before Ridley. So great run, probably looks better than Dragondarch 100% run.
Good job chris. :P
And very big thanks Nate.   Your SDA flash player working very well. Can i find Hotarubi SS flashplayer video here?
EDIT: Actually i just founded Hotarubi Flash player video. I go watch it right now.
This must be VERY GOOD TIME!.
I watch scarlet 29 min video and it looks very good. I think this must be really darn fast run. Chris knight is probably best nes player ever. He have insane SMB 2 time and insane Nes Metroid time.
I promise watch that when somebody fixed my videoplayer. Hopefully that man post his time on youtube.
Thanks.
I think Azor method is very difficult. It is very difficult timed power bomb wave beam hit, because this boss appears randomly.
I have everytime big trouble timed that my Botwoon battle.
Thanks.
Yeah that no CF Spore Spawn is very easy apply my next run. It is very important trick & pretty easy
My Draygon battle was pretty suck because i have less than 17 super missile max against Draygon. I think that No CF Spore Sprawn save 10 piece super missiles before Botwoon and Draygon. I think i can beat both bosses little bit faster.
But yeah this not my best possible run. My Phantoom battle is always suck. Have anybody good idea beat that faster? Azor use in two rounds strategy, but videos not working my computer, how hell it is possible?
My Phantoom took easily 4-6 rounds. I use wave beams and missiles against phantoom. I think if i can use faster method i can save easily 30 seconds here.
But hell yeah my run includes couple good parts, i have 2-3 excellent segment and couple very worse segment.
Best 100% Time: 1.12 (PAL- Versio)
-3 minutes faster than my previous one -Blue glass route (expect early wrecked ship ET)
-Thanks blues glass your route was little bit faster than scarlet. -Thanks Tonski. I complete kraid quick kill and barrier glitch without dying. Thanks your advice it really help me.
Still my run was pretty bad. I definitely try sub 1.10 someday.
-I was disappointment because:
1: i use slow crystal flash method in Brinstar. Tonski advice faster method (get spore sparwn super without crystal flash). But he advice that too late. This is very easy trick, i defintely use that my next run. It save at least one minutes my game time.
2: Second reason why i am disappointment my run. My clear time is very low 1.12. I think it is 5-10 seconds over. But still last segment is too hard improve sub 1.12.
But next time i definitely try sub 1.10. I think if i have very much patience, i can see my goal sub 1.06. But i think it is too hard yet.
Probably i try any-% run next time. But i definitely continued my 100% run, my copy save file.
Thanks MR.X
I think this trick is still too hard apply speedrun, because this took easily 100-200 tries. I never have enought patience try that my next speedrun. It is too frustrating
But if i learn made that better someday, i know ajbolt89 time is easy get down.
My best time on hard mode: 35.52 i use Normal mode any-% route (Transience route). This time is pretty medicore, i have bad refill luck against Ridely and Tourian is possible complete faster. Ajbolt89 route is better it is easily possible beat sub 34 minutes.
But if i try that run next time i probably use normal mode route again, because it is much easier. Probably i try sub 35 minutes. Sub 34 is probably impossible on Normal mode route.
I need really much practice if i want apply ajbolt89 route my next run.
Perfect frame timing is very difficult. Yeah i can across long spike corridor room with shine spark on Wrecked Ship (before gravity suit) on PAL versio. It took easily 50 tries.
I think i not never use that trick my speedrun, because it is absolutely too frustrating complete without dying.
Pillar room (norfair) frame is same about Wrecked Ship. If you have USA versio you not need super quick charge, because doors open faster. I think ,your must be stoped that spark just before door.
Tonski in Finmetroid page. He say arm pumping working, but it not made game much faster.
My opinion it is uncessary trick, i started run my 100% run and i use armpumping my first segment, my opinion it as fast as regular run.
I not sure is it any faster but my opinion: NOPE!.
EDIT*************
Pillar room in Norfair is possible across with shine spark on PAL versio, but your must be use super quick charge. It is much harder than regular quick charge.
Wrecked ship shine spark is possible on PAL, but you need same super quick cahrge trick here.
I not know is it PAL version much slower itself, but there are still some version difference.
Lava rise faster on lava room in norfair. Somebody guy here say doors open 0.36 seconds slower on PAL.
But your 42 minutes is very nice time. My best time on PAL is 51 minutes, i not use barrier glitch, it made my game couple minutes slower.
I finally across Kraid lair acid pool without power grip . I use horrizontal bomb jump method just like ajbolt89.
It was pretty darn hard. Took overall almost 2 hours across that pool.  :P
Spidey Widey must be have very good skills, because he said he can du that 50% of the time. I can du that almost 0,0001% of the time.
But probably i not started run hard mode run yet because this trick is so hard. ajbolt89 hard mode run time is pretty easy beat, but that acid pool across trick is still so hard yet. I need really much practice. :|
But i think, i come back yet. I really want improve hard mode any-% run sub 34 minutes, probably sub 33. I think it is overall pretty easy operation expect horrizontal bomb jump place in Kraid lair.
Spidey Widey can beat hard mode run easily sub 33. I think my possible goal can be sub 34. But well. :P  Across acid pool trick is probably too frustrating try made without dying in my opinion. :(
But i am so happy i finally complete that trick.!!!!!!! :P
If you want hard mode.
1 Complete normal mode 2 Choose start game 3 Choose New 4 Choose Erased all saved 5 Choose hard mode.
I find weird glitch yesterday. It was pure mishap
************************************************ i get out room with mock ball, but i don,t open door. SO WEIRD!
This room located  in Brinstar after Spore Spawrn Super missile. *************************************************
I try that many times again, but i never can made that again. It was pure lucky/mishap. Is anybody founded that before me?
MEan you Hard mode low-% run?
Actually hard mode low-% ending picture is different than your. Your ending picture looks like low-% normal ending. But still nice job.
Well i just test that again my GBA, but no way.
Your ROM is so weird.
It is impossible!
Most peoples are trying pass that tentacle (myself includes) but there are no way pass that tentacle.
Probably only way if somebody can find some weird glitch. Good luck. :P
EDIT: I see. use you emulator? It is not console possible.
9.20 is pretty nice it is 12 seconds faster than my best time. Still your segment was one seconds slower than my.
Still you need overall cooler run than me. I can say it is very difficult if you have something trouble made perfect wall jump on Chozodia. You already said you have little trouble made perfect wall jump, me too.
My current any-% run took only 4 days complete i was pretty impatient. If you have patience enought you can get sub 30 minutes.
I know it is hellishly hard, but good luck.
I read your new route in page 3. It looks different than Scarlet route.
You get later X-ray scope and couple route changes.
Are you test that? Is it faster than Scarlet route?
I planned next try improve my 100% run again, how many seconds i can save time if i use your items route, just like i try get later X-ray scope with space jump?
Yeah single segments runs are scared. 100% SS run is very randomly, there are very easy made two minutes pure mistakes. i was very happy my sub hour run because i avoid all huge mistakes.
Acid worm skip is very nervous place on any-% SS run and 9% SS run is so hard and randomly. All metroid kill instant hit and Mother brain is dangerous if fall acid poll. Pirate ship is very dangerour place and Mecha ridley is hardest all. And last escape nervous so much.
Well my time before Ridley was 9.32. Faster than your. My time in Norfair was 5.56 and i use middle save before Imago cocoon.
You can be faster if you want. Your first segment was so good.
Sub 8,30 before Ridley sounds human impossible, you need extrmely perfect segment, looks like TAS. But Spidey Widey is master any-% runner..
Well Transience no use that save, but you are two seconds faster. Save took 6 seconds. I think you can get at least 4 seconds faster next segment or skip save before Ridley.
But I can think if you keep it up, you can get sub 29 or improve Transience time.
My first segment was 13 seconds slower than your. I think 5.43 is too hard core time for me.  First segment is very manipulate. Worm boss and bugs room and something else bad luck.
go go go man.
DAmn man. Faster than Transience. Transience push start his time was 5.45.
You can get sub 29 minutes. Seriously. Keep it up.
Well still it is great first run. Are you thinking run again that? I think if you run game many, many, many times you can someday get sub 35 easily, probably sub 30.
Thomaz: I understand your bad refill luck. Me too have very bad super missile refill luck my 100% Hard mode single segment run. One super missile refill took 1-2 minutes to get before zebetite.
Zebetite part is very annoying on single segment run.
Sounds nice if you not made Acid worm skip.
My best without AW skip was 33.35.
Skip you Acid worm?
Are you continued your segmented run? You can get sub 30 minutes very easily.  4 seconds better first segment than my run. It is very good.
Still i surprise your 100% run, you started run extremely good, but your last parts was pretty worse, i not know why. Are you think complete your 100% run again? Seriously you can get sub 58 easily your 100% run.
I think this man is amateur speedrunner yet. But still it is pretty nice first speedrun, actually better than my first any-% time.
Item picked ups, not made game much slower (1-2 seconds per item). + i use one energy recharge my 9% run and it took 6 seconds, and in 9% run i need collect at least one missile item refill before bomb. Because there are missile door. I lose all 5 missile in hive room.
But of course there i still lot way made faster segment. First segment is always weak spot my everysingle speedrun expect 100%. It was good enought segment, but still not best possible.
WHOA very nice first segment Thmoaz: Faster than my 30.30 minutes run, but slower than my 9% run segment. But seriously you can get sub 30 minutes.
My any-% (30.30) is 7 months old run, but i not never have motivations try again that, because i  dislike any-% run, because There are many irritating spot, example first segment, acic worm skip, Tourian metroids and Chozodia.
Thanks!
I like
1: GBA (orginal) Score 10/10 2: NES very easy controlls Score 9.5/10 3: SNES like about Nes controlls Score 9.5/10 4: Game Cube best 3d console controlls ever Score 9/10
5: Nintendo DS like about gba but still GBA on better Score 8/10 EXPECT: I hate stylus pen controlls just like Metroid Prime hunters controlls Score 3/10
6: Nintendo 64 Score 7.5/10 7 GBA (SP) I dislike SP controlls. My little Brother have SP but i dislike SP controlls especially if i play Metroid games. Score 6/10
Well
Best time 100%: 1.15 (PAL-versio)
-4 minutes faster than my previous -Same route than Red Scarlet expect early energy tank in Wrecked ship. I get gravity suit before that.
I made lot enemy boosts and lot speedtrick, but i not know barrier glitch not working. I can get easily 1.14 ending if i use that barrier glitch. PAL versio is definitely slower than USA there are lot slower place and Kraid quick kill not working never because boss close mouth after i shot 2-3 super missile. Murder beam is really weird, i can made that easily, but after i made that my game stopped and i not can move. Only way i must be turn off my console.
I not have world records skills but i am curios see what is slowest possible PAL versio time.
I have couple question
1: why charge is sometimes most effective and sometimes weak. Example Croac crocomire my 100% run. Sometimes boss died after one charge and very often i need two charge his mouth.
2 I have trouble made floor spike boost,  Red Scarlet use that her 100% run. I can du roof spike boost almost 100% of the time and enemy boost almost 85-90% of the time, but floor spike boost 0% of the time. Why it is impossible for me?
Damn your single segment 1.00.42 is damn good. My single segment was 59.07 heh still better than your.
Congrats your sub hour run, but you can beat game much faster. I have only 58 seconds ahead before Mother Brain my 56.38 run i think if you are fast enought you can get 57.36 time.
Well, i save my game after Chozo boss, i not save my game in suitless part because it took 15 seconds game time.
My time before Mother brain was: 30.29 My time after Chozo boss: 37.06 (left side save)
I not know but i think your 40.18 is more than two minutes slower than me, i not sure where you save your game.
8 SM is very well, pretty much same than 9 SM.
Actually 8 SM made Mother brain only one seconds slower to beat than 9 SM, but your Tourian was 2 seconds faster than me.
Sounds nice. My Tourian was pretty medicore because i was lazy try again, because i have good refills before Mother Brain.
How many Super missile you have before Mother brain?
I have 9 SM before Mother brain. 12 is MAX but it is pretty much same have you 9 or 12 SM, because i think lowest possible Mother brain is 30 seconds expect if you use one double SM shot you can beat her 1-2 seconds faster.
Still you are 58 seconds slower than me. 57 minutes is very possible yet.
Are you complete your sub hour run yet?
Now you have very good chance complete sub hour, probably 57 minutes. Good luck man!!
Best time: 0.51 (PAL-versio)
-8 minutes faster than my previous any-% run -36% items (70 missile 5 energy tank 30 super missile) - i use Smokey route, but i not using barrier glitch before Mother brain. It is very weird glitch.
This was pretty nice run i kill Botwoon in two rounds, Draygon in three rounds. i using couple enemy boost trick in my run. My run includes 16-17 save points.
Just now i working 100% run, i think my possible goal can 1.16 or lower.
All Zero mission bosses is very easy beat. I think hardest is low-% run Mecha ridley.
It is only reason why i not like try 9% single segment run.
There are 100% runs & best time topic
My best 100% is 1.22 it is pretty worse run.
5 segments run, i really want see that. No possible for me. I think i can beat 57-58.xx time if i use 4 save points, but never 56 or 55.
I think it is important use one save before Ridley lair, because there are couple manipulate SM refills.
And i save my game after morph ball bombs, because ripper bomb jump place are really manipulate, every time ripper moves different place.
Peoples not understand how hard is complete perfect 14 segment run . If somebody want try beat my time, good luck. Hopefully i can see perfect 4-5 segment run.
I not can belive it before i can see it.
Of course 54.xx is possible human time, but yeah only way is skip saves. We can see Dragondarch run next, probably he can get 55.30 or lower time.
This is superb. WHOA sub 32 really?
Can you post your run also youtube? because i want see that possible soon. My video players not working yet, and i not can fixed my players, because i am stupid.
I practice that game almost everysingle weekend probably i want try your route someday. It must be looks much faster than Smokey run and Smokey 36 minutes run looks insane in my opinion.
This one is only 5 minutes faster. Damn!
My saves my 56.38 run:
save 1: Brinstar after bomb= 3.23 save 2: Kraid lair before Acid worm= 7.32 save 3: Kraid lair before Kraid= 10.42 save 4: Norfair before power grip= 13.08 save 5: Norfair before Screw attack= 18.37 save 6: Norfair before Imago Cocoon= 20.35 save 7: Ridley lair middle (no same save than Kridly)= 22.36 save 8: Ridley lair before Ridley= 24.52 save 9: Tourian entrance= 29.10 save 10: Tourian before Mother brain= 30.29 save 11: Chozodia after Chozo boss= 37.06 save 12: Chozodia after power bomb= 41.45 save 13: Kraid lair after Norfair= 47.48
Clear time: 56.38
I hate too long segments.
I test save skip but it not working very good. I need lot manipulate luck and SM refills.
I see 12-13 segment is almost best, but still too hard. I think Thomaz can get easier sub hour if he use 15-16 save.
Dragondarch is only one, this man is expert. He can get good Single segment run, but still i get almost as good run with 14 segment. I lose only 27 seconds.
Of course it is possible get lot new WR times, if somebody can skip saves. Kridly run includes too much save, my run includes too much saves, Transience run includes too much saves, almost all WR runs includes too much saves. Expect ajbolt89 hard runs not includes too much saves actually on the contrary. Hard mode is faster, if you save game in Tourian. Hard mode low-% probably faster, if you save game before barriers.
Anyway
Probably.
But it is REALLY DIFFICULT OPERATION. I working my run many days. Almost 12 days total, i finally get 56.38. Still i need 28 seconds yet. It is really long time, because my run was almost perfect
If i can complete everysingle segment one seconds faster, i can get 13 seconds faster run. Chozodia suitless part is theoretical possible get 6-7 seconds faster. Last segment is possible complete 4-5 seconds faster.
Just now i am so lazy try any better 100% run. This is good enought.
55.xx is almost as possible normal mode time than 57.xx hard mode time.
go go go.!!
Sub 32 is incredible. Only minutes yet.
Good luck.
Well good.
Don,t worry your extra save. I use every time save point before Imago cocoon, this method is pretty hard i not use that my single segment run. Is it faster than your methods? how many seconds it is faster?
I speak bad english, but i try expalain that. Spidey Widey can help you better if you not understand me.
Started: 1 Shoot multiple vertical missile on left side tentacles and dont worry ripper. 2 Jump and shot two diagonal super missile on left side tentacles=( Jump one time and shot one Super missile and jump again and shot second super misssile.) 3 Freeze ripper on right side and jump onto the ripper. 4 Use one super missle and multiple missile against right side tentacles. Finally boss died.
Hopefully you understand me. Boos died in 5-7 seconds. This is fastest possible method against boss. You need 4 sm before boss, 3 Sm you lose against boss.
26.37 is pretty good, still you can  get sub hour very easily yet. I am pretty sure you can get sub 59 yet.
Still i wonder, your Ridley lair must be slow part your run, because your run sounds very goods before Screw attack, only 58 sec slower than my best actually it faster than my old 58.54 run. Theoretical you can get 58.25 yet.
Try again complete Ridley lair  segment if you can.
I am curious see your clear time. I know if you working very hard you can get 58-59 run yet. No problem. Patience!!!!!
EDIT: use you Imago cocoon in 5 seconds method?
I not know how you define this. But my opinion it was in one round. Anyway it was faster than Red scarlet 100% battle.
SORRY: it was TAS i see now.
There are video, Draygon is possible in one round.
I not know is it possible if you not have enought super missiles.
TAS?
Yes i have.
MR:X is probably wrong. He say 160 missile is max. Gamefaqs said 150 missile is max:
Gamefaqs wrote:
45%/46% in Normal, 44%/45% in Hard?
30/29  Missile Tanks 150/58 Missiles Total     4  Energy Tanks  499/299 Energy Total     1  Morph Ball     1  Long Beam     1  Normal Bomb     1  Unknown Item #1     1  Unknown Item #2     1  Power Grip     1  Ice Beam     1  Hi-Jump     1  Varia     1  Screw Attack     1  Wave Beam     1  Charge Beam (optional)
I have all possible items.
I get energy tank in zip line room, but i not acticvation zipline. Acid worm not appeared if you not activated zip lines.
Just i get Norfair lava pool missile expansion, i lose 3 energy tanks.
I have 145 missiles now, i can get one missile expansion in Kraid lair, but i not can back here. I planned get that expansion last in the game.
I need find two more mystery missile expansions yet.
I finally complete Kraid lair 4 zapper room expansion trick.
IT WAS REALLY REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT. Took almost 45 minutes. I hate spider enemy, every time it moved different place. That was pure lucky.
How hell you can have 160 missiles? I can have 140 now.
EDIT: i get energy tank and get out Acid worm room. Thanks MR:X. Still i wondering you have 4 missile expansion more than me.
EDIT: Norfair pool sounds possible, but i need at least 4 energy tank, probably i get that next, but you have three more expansions yet.
Oh thanks. This sounds good. I try that.
Well this crumble block was pretty irritating, but not hard. Took almost 45 seconds to get.
Super Metroid items, almost all items is harder get than Zero Mission crumble block missile expansion.
EDIT: actually there are two crumble room expansions and both expansions is hard to get.
Hardest one is in 4 zapper room expansion without ziplines.
EDIT 2: i see 4 zapper room expansion is impossible get. I not can jump enought high. Looks possible, but it impossible.
EDIT: i complete that easy challenge. -135 missile -3 energy tank (you can get 4 energy tank if you less one missile exapnsion) -Lot main items.
I not know forget i something, but i think this is max items, without killing any bosses and minibosses. Norfair lava room missile expansion is impossible get because i have only 2 energy tank max, probably if i have 4-6 energy tank it is possible.
54.40 is definitely possible if you use emulator and savestate, but no slowdown.
55.30 is theoretical very possible single segment run on console. I think Dragondarch can beat 55.30 run.
My 56.38 is really darn good 14 segment goal.
SPIDEY WIDEY: Are you started run your any-% 27.xx run? How many segment are done?
I think this challenge is very easy. It is very easy collect lot early item, if you can made perfect bomb jump and wall jump. No problem for me.
Super Metroid No boss/miniboss challenge is pure hell. No human challenge, only expect Red Scarlet.
Nice Thomaz.
go go go.
My new run was insane My time before screw attack was 18.37 it was only 58 seconds faster than your. Theoretical you can get 57.xx run yet. good luck.
I use everysingle speedtrick in my run.
EDIT: My best time 100%: 0.56.38
-7 seconds better ending than last time. I played two last segment again.
second last segment was 4 seconds better than last time. I using first time my life irritating space jump method in Tourian.  It is 2-3 seconds faster than horrizontal shine spark.
Last segment looks cooler than last time. Actually it is 3 seconds better than last time. Escape was excellent again (4.02 time left). Segment itself was almost two seconds faster than last time.
This is my final time, i not try improve that.
All savepoints took total: 86-88 seconds time. Possible single segment goal is 55.10. if you complete game same skill as me, but without saves.
Ridley without suit looks insane. Its must be are TAS, because he made really fast morph ball and he not lose any damage against boss.
My 56.45 run are extremely darn good, it looks pretty much same as 54.xx SS run. Just what Dragondarch planned.
Of course save skips is possible idea, but it is hellishly hard try skip any save points.
I have really much trouble beat perfect 14 segment run.  6-7 segment is possible, but i not never ever can beat my run only 6-7 segment max.
I can get 58.xx single segment run, but i think never 57.xx SS because it is too hardcore for me. Same trouble 55.xx segmented is too hardcore time for me.
I think if i ever try improve that, i need lot new/faster tricks. I was pretty disappointed Kridly run tricks, because almost all Kridly methods was as fast as my methods. No difference. Only good methods was Spider room shine spark in Ridley lair, it was 4-5 seconds faster than Dragondarch method.
I wait if somebody crazy man try beat that run. I working 10 days total and multiple hours. Dragondarch have current WR records yet, i lose only 34 seconds.
This is Metroid2002 all impossible is possible here?
Hell yeah.
I planned first (before i started my run) i try beat Dragondarch WR time, but it was too hard, because this guy complete almost perfect single segment run and i using 13 save point (Kridly use 12)
I planned sub 56 minutes run, but i not founded way get better. I can get maximal 56.3x ending, but it is absolutely maximal possible time on my save file. I am satisfied if i can get 56.45 ending or less.
Dragondarch WR is 56.11 it is too far, because it is single segment. This man is incredible how hell he can get almost perfect SS run.
Best 100% time: 0.56.50
25 seconds better than my last run. I am pretty sure this not my final time, because my last segment was 6 seconds slower than my last run. I have very bad luck against Robot ridley and i miss last shine spark stoped trick. I try maybe 56.45 ending or less, but today are very hard luck day.
Hopefully tomorrow is lucky day.
EDIT: Best 100% time: 0.56.45
5 seconds better ending. Pretty good Robot ridley and excellent escape (4.00-4.01 time left) Segment itself was pretty slow, i made really much little mistakes, but no any major mistake. I made 5-6 little mistake in segment, i think i can get maximal 5-6 seconds better segment, but it is really darn hard, because last segment is almost 9 minutes long.
I not know yet, try i improve that, because this is pretty good ending.
Best 100% time: 1.19 (PAL-versio)
6 minutes better than my test run. This run was much cooler/better than my previous one.
I less 5-7 save point. I made much better segments and much cooler boss fight. Draygon was good, i beat Draygon in two round, it was pretty much same as Red scarlet battle.
I think i try any-% run next time.
Just i mean it japanesse time attack, i think it is TAS because it is not human possible on console.
My time before Mother brain is: 30.29 /25 sec ahead)
Yesterday i working couple hours sutiless samus segment, but i not complete that yet.
This time i try skip energy recharge in Chozodia and complete it pretty much same skill than last time with save. It is really difficult operation, because Chozo boss is very randomly and hard. My best Mother brain was 30 seconds, but i think it is possible get 2-3 seconds faster if you use double SM shots.
I can du it 0% of the time, it is impossible trick for me.
I have really much trouble here, because this segment is only hope get better run than last time. It is very cool if i can du 5-7 seconds faster segment than last time. This segment is biggest trouble. Look forward. I know this segment took long time if i can complete that ever any faster.
EDIT: Chozodia suit part save: 0.37.06 (29 sec ahead)
I finally skip energy recharge and save in suitlesspart, took really long time beat that segment. This sement was amazing.
-MB in 30 seconds (as best as my best battle. Battle itself was almost 10 seconds) -Escape 30 seconds left (as best as my best escape) -No map computer hit -No major mistake in Suitless part, expect i was little bit cautions in one room, took probably 2 seconds game time +i falling one time with wall jump, took probably 1-2 seconds) -No miss shots against Chozo guy (finally huh huh!) \:D/
My Chozo fight was still couple seconds slower than my last run (with save run). Diagrams appeared pretty slow, especially last one. Last time i using save before Chozo boss and it made my battle couple seconds faster than this time.
Theoretical this segment is still possible get 7-8 seconds faster if you beat extremely fast Chozo guy fight and if you get fully risk. Still my segment was only 4 second better than my absolutely perfect with save segment my last run. Last time my Chozo guy was really darn fast. Perfect diagrams save my time really much.
I am very satisfied with my segment.
SPIDEY WIDEY. how fast is your best Chozo boss? I think if you planned speedrun 2 segment run, it is impossible beat perfectly, because Chozo guy is really randomly. You need 3 segment run. Perfect diagrams appeared almost 5% of the time. If you save your game 2 times it is best possible with you any-% run.
1-save Tourian 2-save Before Mother brain
I think 53.0x TAS was really old, i think 2004-2005 run. I think 100% category includes much difference than any-%, i think TAS possible is 48-49.xx. Who know TAS runs are very weird for me.
55.xx is lowest human possible time, theoretical lowest is 54.xx one guy here (X-trax) working 100% run, his time before Ridley was couple seconds better than me. Probably he skip more saves, because i not see way get any better run if you use same more save as me.
Just what you already said 6-7 segment is best possible, but you need incredible concentration, good manipulate luck. I hate get SM refills, everytime it caused trouble.
I think you have good concentration, because your 28 run sounds incredible. My concentration are worse, it is one reason why i not can get incredible single segment runs, too i nervous pretty easily, and it made Suitless samus part hard beat same time as Mother brain. I can made at most five minutes segment perfectly.
If segment is longer than five minutes i made very easily 6 seconds or more mistakes.
I played Super MEtroid my last weekend, my opinion game includes so much little difference PAL and NTCS.
1: I not can lose damage as fast PAL than NTCS. Exapmle first ceres Ridley battle, Red scarlet beat that much faster than me, because she lose faster her damages. SAme trouble is last big metroid in Tourian, we both erased gravity and varia suit, but i can lose only 3-4 energy tank before metroid grap me, but Red scarlet lose almost all enegy tank her 100% run. It is impossible in PAL.
2 Doors open slower PAL than NTCS, it is really frustrating. My opinion you not can made all possible shine spark, because before you started run with you speedbooster, your must be open door.
3 Kraid mouth trick. I not understand this, i du it just same method as Smokey, but boss mouth closed much faster PAL than NTCS. I can shot maximal 2 super missile his mouth, not never 3 or 4.
4: I not sure is it this some versio differnece, Smokey kill beetoms without bombs. This not working my run i need bomb against beetoms. Is it some glitch or something?
Of course TAS is possible beat little bit faster, somebody said long time ago TAS records is 53 minutes, :|  but 54 on console and single segment is not human time, because you need extremely good concentration and perfect skills and lot manipulate luck. :-s  Only couple stupid little mistake or miss some SM refills your game is over. :(
Probably Dragondarch are founded couple new trick because he planned 54.xx run.
I am pretty sure i not can see my goal 55.xx now, because i not can pour on the speed my current run, i can belive 56.4x probably very possible yet.
But who know, probably my previous run includes couple slow part in later game.
EDIT: Ridley lair before Ridley: 0.24.52 (29 sec ahead) -6 seconds faster segment than last time, Thanks new tricks. i lose automatically time my next segment, because i´ve must be get charge beam and i have now 6 SM against Ridley, normal i have 7 SM.
I test Ridley fight
8 SM: Ridley died in 7 seconds 7 SM: Ridley died in 8-9 seconds 6 SM: Ridley died in 10 seconds
I not know is it any faster idea get two SM refill in previous segment, because if you get two refill you can beat Ridley only 1-2 seconds faster, but you lose automatically 1-2 second on segment time, because your must be kill one more enemy and get SM refill. You not can have 8 SM against boss if you skip chozo statue before Ridley, because your must be use one SM against eye door.
Chozo statue is very bad idea, because it made game at least 3 seconds slower, it is 3 seconds faster way collects refills.
EDIT: 29.10 tourian save (24 sec ahead) -5 seconds slower than last time, because: 1: i have one SM less against Ridley (-1 seconds) 2: I get charge beam (4-5 seconds). Last time i get charge beam early, before Norfair.
Well my 57.15 run not includes any worst segment, there are only couple way speeding up. 1 Ridley lair 2 Last segment (couple mistake + i mess up shine spark stopped trick on escape took almost 6-7 seconds.
I surprised When i watch Kridly run, Kridly run includes many new trick/different method, but almost all Kridly methods is as fast as my method, no major difference.
Only real way get better run is skip save points, but it is really difficult, because i need couple SM refills per segment and enemys drops pretty rarery SM refills. I test that save skip strategy, but it not made game any faster, because i need two as perfect segment and i made really easily 3-seconds mistake per segment, just like my 59.07 SS run, it includes almost 4 minutes little mistakes.
It is impossible avoid all little mistakes if you skip too much save, because i have got pretty worse concentration.
Dragondarch working sub 55 SS run, i not can belive it before i really can see it. My 57.15 looks 55.40 SS run, probably i can get 40 seconds faster run now. 54.xx is theoretical lowest possible time, Dragondarch is crazy if he can get it without any save. Its must be looks like TAS.
EDIT: Ridly lair middle 22.36 (23 sec ahead) -two second faster than last time, this was absolutely perfect, i get fast SM refill, imago cocoon died in 5 seconds just like last time. I find almost second faster method missile expansions room., this save my time probably 1-2 seconds.
Next segment is hard, but there are way get better than last time, because Kridly use morph ball shine spark in spider room. This segment is hard because i need at least one SM refill so i can skip chozo recharge before Ridley.
Not yet, i was pretty busy and  last weekend i continued my Super Metroid 100% run.
I continued run Zero Mission when i have enought time and enought motivations. Sub 56 minutes run are pretty crazy and really difficult, i need almost perfect segments and enought time and lucky day.
EDIT: fourth segment complete Norfair: 0.13.08 (21 sec ahead)
This time i not get charge beam, but my segment was only 4 seconds faster than last time. Last time i get charge beam and i not using shine spark. This time i using shine spark and not get charge beam.
It is as fast as get you charge before norfair or not, my Kraid battle was perfect in my both run. I surprised this shine spark before Norfair is pretty uncessary, it is at most 1-2 seconds faster than without shine spark, trust me i test that.
This was very stupid mess up when i not get charge beam, it made ridley map computer jump 100 times harder made. I practice lot map station jump today my test save file, took first time almost 30 tries made that. Now i can made it almost 50 of the time.
EDIT: 18.37 Norfair before screw attack (21 sec ahead) 20.35 Norfair before Imago cocoon (21 sec ahead)
Three as fast as segment than last time, i working 3-4 hours without break, I think my previous run was surprised good, i really wonder can i get sub 56 minutes, because i not can made any better segment than last time. I think there are no way get much better run than last time
Nice run MR.X.
I think i not can beat your time because i have trouble made acid worm skip. If i try skip acid worm skip it is pure suicide, because i miss that at least 90% of the time. I think i can get 32.xx without acid worms skip, but it is very difficult made it without any save.
Just now i working my 100% run, look forward can i complete sub 56 minutes.
I listen Uniclubi just now.
Great finnish language music.
5-7 segments sounds humanly impossible made perfect run, but who knows, you are crazy.
My Chozodia escape last time was pretty slow, but i think i not never can made 4.03-04 escape my sppedrun, because my last save is in Kraid lair, it made almost impossible made perfect runs.
I am pretty sure i can get sub 56 minutes run if not anything bad happens, just like next examples:
1 all save file erased 2 if i forget some items 3 if i gba/zero mission break
There are three reason why i can miss my run, but look forward.
Good luck with you, i know you need time, we both need time. It is crazy made good run.
My battle 31 seconds includes barriers +Mother brain. Transience any-% MB battle was 45 sec my 100% battle was 14 sec faster.
I think Kridly method was faster on hard mode, but he not use super missiles against glass, because you not have enought SM on hard mode. I uses SM on glass my normal mode run.
I must be practice that if i try new WR time, probably it is faster.
I watch long time ago Kridly 100% Hard mode run. He use double super missile shots against Mother brain.
Is it hard trick and how much you can save time if you play normal mode?
My Mother brain goal was 31 seconds my 57.15 run, i break glass lot faster because i uses Super missiles. I not use double SM shots against boss, this is very new trick. I not never practice that.
Annoying i not can watch Kridly video now, but can somebody tell me is it good/faster idea use double SM shots here?
Me too are little bit busy.
I think if i try that 100% run  i need lot time and it took lot days, but look forward. But i know this is only run where i can du WR, i not never can improve Transience any-% or Kridly hard mode 100% or ajbolt89 runs.
But i not try single segement, i have so much trouble get sub hour SS if i started that, my run are segmented. But it looks 54.xx run. Because i planned use 12-13 save.
But we all peoples here want see Spidey Widey runs. Hopefully you recorded.
EDIT: Two segment done:
07.32 before acid worm (13 sec ahead)
Oh 13 seconds better than my 57.15 run. I need less than minutes yet if i want beat DD time. I use two new trick: 1 get faster missile expansion, bomb block not appeared again, it save 1-2 seconds. 2 Before acid worm i use irritating bomb the block and jumping wall jump same time, Dragondarch miss that his run, this save 3-4 seconds.
This took 2,30 hours beat two first segment.
EDIT: Third segment complete: 10.42 before Kraid (17 sec ahead)
One insane segment is done, took only 20 minutes. Same skill than last time my goal is 0.56.58, but  i try sub 56, i need 59 sec yet.
We all have trouble beat Robot ridley on 9% normal SS. Just boss is so randomly, but just what i already said it is your only problem,  you need patience started game again after you died against robot ridley.
I have interested try 100% run WR. I practice most new trick. There are possible made faster bomb jump. Jump air and put bomb and jump bomb when it explorer, just like ajbolt89. Trick is pretty hard, but i can du it sometimes almost 75% of the time sometimes expect if i have very bad day only 10% of the times. It is pretty randomly, i need practice that yet. But i think it made everysingle bomb jump part 1 seconds faster complete i think it is 15 seconds total.
Kridly run help me so much there are much new trick, Kridly not use that bomb jump method what i planned.
I think kraid lair is possible beat faster now. +Last time my two first segemt was little bit too slow, I think Chozodia suitless part was slow because i use that energy racharge. Last segement was pretty good but there are still almost 15 seconds pure mistakes.
Dragondarch time is only time what i can du beat pretty easily if i have enought motivations/patience try that. I practice that and probably try beat that before Dragondarch.
You understand wrong. I meaning sda not includes Nes Metroid death abuse video yet
Yeah double bomb jumping made game faster, probably one minutes total on 100%. Good Thomaz.
Spidey Widey try 9% SS normal run next, if you really can beat Mother Brain 100% of the time, it sounds crazy, because i made easily one stupid mistake here, example i falling lava pool.
It is only reason why i death sometimes against boss and if i not falling lava pool i beat NO DAMAGE boss very easily and just it is reason why i not see 9% normal boss harder than 10% hard mode boss. My strategy is probably different and rinkas not caused any problem for me.
Your only problem is Mecha Ridley, but dont worry about. It is you only problem and probably took couple deaths if you try 9% SS run. But i can see you probably complete this one if you have patience started game again when you died against Robot ridley.
Too frustrating me, i have trouble complete 9% SS because i died easily next spots:
I died Ridley 10% of the time I died Tourian metroid part: 50% of the time I died Tourian barrier part: 20% of the time I died Mother brain: 25% of the time I died Tourian escape: 0.1% of time (one time my life) I died Chozodia suitless part: 60% of the time I died Chozodia suit part: 50% of the time I died against Mecha ridley: 75% of the time I died escape: 5% of the time I died Black pirates: 10% of the time (i choose wrong place)
Too big risk complete SS run because it is pretty crazy.
Just it is death abuse categorie.
SDA not includes death abuse video yet. I think it is probably harder than single segment run because just what i already said if you death you have only 30 energy point. Maybe this categorie is easier complete TAS run than console. Probably i want someday try that speedrun, probably not, but before that i need lot practice.
I not like speedrun that game, because this is crazy game, really difficult speedrun. Took most deaths complete that game. Just i practice yesterday that game. Early varia suit is very difficult trick took almost 10 minutes get that without hi jump.
I really need varia suit because i never beat this game without varia suit and only 3-4 energy tank max. I have Zero mission versio Ridley is much harder with GBA Zero mission versio than Prime versio. Prime versio includes savespot in Ridley room but gba versio not and it is reason why i need varia suit because you lose energys automatically because you not can dodge Ridley attack on GBA Zero mission versio.
Is it possible made new different speedrun categorie in the game? Red Scarlet and Mycatsuck run was single segment run and there are no deaths.
I planned is it possible made with Death single segment run. You made couple suicide.
EXAMBLE: If you get first missile expansion you made suicide after you get that. Now game started Brinstar entrance and you have that missile expansion.
This is hard categorie because after death you have only 30 energy point, you need energy tank or something, but i am sure it made some spots much faster beat.  Game is possible beat faster than Mycatsuck run and this is new categorie.
I not know working that my idea, but comments please!
Good luck and no problem. You beat that, i am 100% sure.
Can you really beat Mother brain 100% of the time? I can actually 75-85% of the time and 10% hard mode probably 65-75% of the time i not see much difference here. Is it true you never lose your live her chamber?
You are super man you not never falling her lava pool. This is my regular mistake here and this kill me sometimes instantly. Lava pool is very dangerous place and it drain your energys very fast.
My opinion SM route is harder speedrun than 4 missile route. My opinion Ridley is harder, Kraid is harder and Tourian metroid part is harder. Chozodia suit part is little bit harder. 4 missile route is easier speedrun, but SM route is almost minutes faster, but i think i not never can beat my 4 missile route time on SM route.
Robot ridley drop 0-2 SM refill per tries, it is possible beat faster and battle is lot easier if you have enought lucky.
I little bit wonder when you said you not never beat Robot Ridley on 10% Hard mode. Because you have extremely good Zero mission skills and Robot Ridley is not too hard. I think actually pretty easy. Of course its took lot deaths. 10 or sometimes more deaths but i can everytime beat that fight without any big trouble.
Best 100% time: 1.25
I finally complete my first 100% run on Super Metroid. There are very much mistakes and saves because that was my first 100% run.
I using Red Scarlet route, only expect was early energy tank in Wrecked ship. It is too hard get without gravity suit, because i have only 80 energy point after Phantoom. Last time i said i not try early springin ball glitch, but i practice that before my run and now i can du that pretty easily, but it is still pretty hard. I miss that one time in my run and it took multiple restart made that glitch fast enought.
I watch Red scarlet video before speedrun, i found her video on youtube. Next time i try sub 1.20 run. I can get sub 1.20 very easily because my run looks pretty horrible.
Super Metroid is definitely hardest 2d metoid to speedrun. Red scarlet is super lady WHOA!
I recommend not next time try Acid worm skip, because if you mess up it 2 times or more, it is slower way.
Acid worm route took 2 minutes or less +you can catch two more missile expansion  (made Tourian segment faster). If you not skip Acid worm i am pretty sure you can complete game 34.xx.
Maybe you need practice that trick, But don,t worry five tries is good. I have everytime huge trouble made Acid worm skip. Took at least 5 tries, sometimes 100 tries. My opinion it trick is 100% pure lucky. Actually i can beat Robot ridley easier in 10% Hard mode than made Acid worm skip on any-% run.
Nice time. I think you can get 1.03 very easily, if you have enought lucky next time. Yeah it is biggest trouble complete 100% SS without any major/horrible mistakes. My 59.07 SS run includes almost 3.30 minutes pure mistakes, but i not made any major mistakes expect one room in Ridley lair. IT is lucky day if you can avoid all big mistakes here
NOTE: THOMAZ: not next time use Space jump method on Tourian. I use horrizontal shinespark jump. This is two seconds slower way get that expansion, but it is 85% easier.
Trust me it is better method if you use horrizontal shinespark here.
Nice nice.
Can you now made double bomb jump?
Me too use one recharge too much my 100% SS sub hour run, but i use this recharge in Norfair, because i have too low energy here. One room caused lot trouble because i falling two times lave pool, that was reason why i use that energy recharge.
It took many rounds get good 100% SS. I KNOW!!!
Same time as me. I have same trouble i choose wrong way couple times and i have much trouble here (read my comments). I know there are way get sub 40 minutes run very easily. Just i have trouble define how many speedtrick i can use and how many shortcuts i can use. I not know how much you use shortcuts and how you define your natural route.
But still congrats.
Double bomb jumps is very difficult advice.
There are some method made infinite bomb jump:
If you try made double bomb jump your must be everytime put one bomb UP screen. now Samus get more height per bomb.
You need lot practice first time, it is very difficult advice. But watch ajbolt89 video maybe it help you. I know you need lot practice. I practice long time that.
Now i can made double bomb jump very easily.
Most people recommend VLC, but is it still lot different. Nero and windows mediaplayer working very good my previous computer.
Oh sorry Scarlet, it is hard remember your gender, because you are only female speedrunner here.
Sub hour is easy way. My best time is 59 minutes, it is worst, because it is old and when i complete that i not using quick charge trick and i have real trouble made many trick. Quick charge is very importan before wrecked ship, but it is very possible beat without quick charge, but it is 85% harder way.
Mother brain glitch is importan, but i not can du any glitch i practice lot that glitch and i practice lot early springin ball glitch, but no way.
Next i practice crystal flash trick, i need that my 100% speedrun. I try use Scarlet route, but i change that little, bit. I not try get early springin ball.
Very annoying try speedrun, because i not any sure what is Red scarlet route, my any videos not working. I erased Windows media player and now i have Nero media player, but still SDA videos not working here, still i can hear music my computer expect  in internet music not working.
But i try remember her route, but it is pretty hard because i watch that video almost year ago,
I seriously can belive i can get 1.20 maybe under my glitchless run. WR by Somkey is 1.05 his glitchless run. I surprised my item collection test time was 2.10 i really surprised, because i think it is 4-5 hours, but sub 2 hours is very easily beat without speedrunning.
This weekend was funny i played multiple hours Super Metroid. Nice game.
I collect all 100% item second time my life. Last time i collect 100% item almost 5-7 year ago. I not speedrun that, because i have trouble find all items again after couple years. I watch Scarlet video almost year ago, anyway. My time was
100% item: clear time 2.10,
It was surprised fast, because i use lot X-ray scope and i use 2 visit on Wrecked ship and 3-4 visit Maridia and multiple visit Brinstar. Just i  forget many times get items
Still i get lot early items and i use lot WR trick. I get early X-ray scope. It is pretty tought trick, but not too hard.
I practice some trick i practice spikey boost trick. Spikey boost trick is easy, but enemy boost trick is impossible for me. I not understand why spikey boost is lot easier than enemy boost.
I practice quick charge trick and it working PAL as good as NTCS verisio. Quick charge trick was very easy. There are still some difference PAL and NTCS, because PAL versio doors open slower and it made some shine spark jumps impossible complete example one room in Norfair down stair.
Yeah i can du almost all Super Metroid trick now, but still not all trick yet. I not can made any glitch because i am very worst glitch player. Gravity jump not working and Mother brain barrier glitch is impossible for me.
Next weekend i think i started speedrun 100% game. I try maybe sub 1.20 run.
Thanks compliments Spidey Widey.
I wait your run and probably your escape run if you ever complete 4.05 time left. I know it is extremely difficult, because i have really trouble get 4.04.1x escape  and still i need 0.90 seconds if  i want get 55 seconds escape.
Oh i deleted my post, because double post is wrong here. I hate edit system.
Thanks your compliments. I think i am pretty tired try again that run. Still there are many way get much better run, but only theoretical, if you not have robot skill or robot luck, just like Dragondarch.
go go go guys.
Somebody can beat my time easily, but still this took lot practice. I have good 100% skills.
100% route are pretty darn hard beat without any dying. ESPECIALLY SINGLE SEGMENT.
I see most people lost all SNES save files, without any reason.
Pretty weird. This not first time for me. I lose one time one save file on DKC and one time i lose one save file on Sim city and one time i i lose all save file on SM all star and one time i lose all save file on Super Metroid. Total 4 times.
Snes is very old console, maybe it is one reason. It is very irritating speedrun SNES games on segmented, because all save file erased very easily.
JES!!!!!
Best 100% single segment: 0.59.07
Finally everything working almost perfectly. Run includes only one major mistake in Ridley lair. One missile expansion room, i falling down and i must be get out here and back. Took almost 15 seconds, but anyway it was only big mistake in my run. Of course Mother brain was slow, because i falling acid pool 2-3 times, but yeah i not miss any shinespark, first time my life.
Of course my run includes lot little mistake and i not get huge risk, just like Dragondarch.
But i am very satisfied. I think i never ever try that again. This run was hell, pure hell. But Ok guys if somebody beat my time it is extremely good accomplishment.
What is your TOP 1-10 biggest mistakes on speedruns?
How much you have unlucky when you speedrun? Ok i started this topic, there is my very bad mistakes ever.
1: Metroid Fusion. I played 100% segmented run, and just i have 7 minutes ahead my previous run. Just before finnish line i see i forget one very important expansion. I was forget copy my game and i failure my run instantly.
2: I played Zero mission any-% SS run and i have almost 2 minutes ahead my previous run. My GBA batterys end in Chozodia escape, before black pirates and i failure my run instantly.
3: When i played 100% SS run on Zero mission almost everything works perfectly. I not mess up any shine spark, but one Pulse bombu room in Chozodia took almost 1-2 minutes, because when i trying jump super jump, pulse bombu stoped my shine spark almost 5-7 times.  I lose 1-2 minutes and my clear time was 1.00.11. I think 58 without pulse bombu room mistakes.
4: When i played 9% SS run Zero mission i died Tourian escape, because i was too nervous here.
5: Two times i miss two absolutely perfect tries against black pirates, my 9% segmented run, because i choosing wrong place both tries. It is very difficult beat Robot ridley in 1.05 minutes, and both tries i miss my game against black pirates, and this is one easiest place in Chozodia escape.
6: When i speedrun Super Metroid, and i was complete Ridley. Next time when i turn ON my console my all save file was erased without any reasons. This not irritate now because this run was still pretty suck ass.
I really think someday i update more my BAD luck list. I not have 10 very big mistakes yet, but someday i have.  I know it.
Post your own top mistakes in this topic.
Yeah. Someday i want have enought lucky. My 1.00.11 run looks 58.xx run, always i have unlucky. Escpecially last horrizontal shinespark is really irritating, because this took almost 15 seconds game time and it is very easy mess up. One bad place are pulse bombu room. Third scared place are first energy tank in Chozodia, i miss taht this time.
Ridley lair rooms caused every time trouble, but today i first time my life on SS run i complete all Ridley lair rooms first tries.
But 59 run is theoretical very easy get. You still can get very much little mistakes and couple big mistakes.
I know that was suck. There are 4 minutes pure mistakes. I miss too much shine sparks. My 57.15 looks 55.40 minutes SS run
My last time i have very much unlucky pulse bombu room, i lose 1-2 minutes, but know this time i made that super jump first tries.  I check my time before Ridley it was 26.3x. And tourian my time was 30.xx.
Yeah i try get sub hour run if i have enought motivations. I hate started 100% SS run, because it is 1 hours 30 minutes run.  But yeah i think 59 is still pretty bad time. 58 is good 100% SS time in my opinion. But if i someday can get 59 minutes run i am very satisfied man.
JUst i complete 100% SS but i not get records, my time was 1.01.01 almost minutes slower than last time. I miss too much shine spark. But this time pulse bombu part super jump not caused trouble.
My last escape was suck ass i miss shine spark stop trick 2 times and + i miss last shine spark shortcuts, i lose 25 seconds on escape, but still i not beaten my previous run, because it is 1.00.11.
I miss one time tourian shine spark jump, there are irritating missile expansion and pretty hard shine spark jump. I made one very horrible mistake one Chozodia room, before Chozodia first energy tank.
I miss last energy tank horrizontal shine spark trick, oh i hate that trick on SS run.
One room in Brinstar took almost 35 second pure mistake, i have trouble made bomb jump here.
My run includes many very good part. I have good Kraid lair part and excellent Ridley lair part. I have good luck with bosses and mini bosses.
Seriously i can get 56-57 minutes SS run if everything works. But no!!!   I never have enought luck get sub hour SS run. Dragondarch are robot. But i can theoretical get pretty much same time if i not made very stupid and easy mistakes my SS run.
If you beat last segment as fast as me, your goal is 31.58.
Man you can complete last segment faster than me.  But if you are as fast as ajbolt your possible goal are 31.40.
Congrats Thomaz. I see your last segment was little slow, but try again. I think you really can get 30-40 seconds better last segment. I not remember how fast my last segment was. But i think it was little slow, because i have almost 10 seconds ahead in last save, but i still lose 8 seconds his (ajbolt89) time.
ajbolt89 last segment (30.22 min run) was insane, it is 2 seconds better than Transience run last segment. ajbolt89 not made any big mistake, here. I made almost 20 seconds slower segment than ajbolt89, i not understand why, because my opinion my last segment was good.
I think my any-% run are almost half year old, i complete that run in juny. I have more skill now than half year ago, but i am lazy started run again this run. But i look forward if i someday have enought interesting try sub 30 minutes run.
I think you have better method in hive room, because you can get almost 20 seconds better first sgment than me. Falling you down here, just like Tranisience?
Before second hive i jumping always down, because it is very hard kill that hive without falling. TAS player not falling here, this save game time at least 5 seconds.
Just it very hard skip that energy tank, just that is one reason why i use chozo energy/missile recharge my 9% run. Second reason is because i am pretty impatient get enought missile refills with enemys. But it is good thing you not need missile refill luck on any-% run.
Really save it time if you not use wall jump method on MB escape? I never use left or right wall wall jump here. I use same method as you, but still i do something wrong because i lose your time multiple seconds.
My time before i get first missile is sometimes 1.04-1.07, it is pretty randomly per tries because enemys located every time different place. I think Spidey Widey can little bit more faster than me.
This lay bomb and unmorph trick are darn hard. I never use that trick my speedrun, because it save time almost only one seconds, pretty uncessarty trick and too hard, if you not try insane perfect run, just like Spidey Widey. I can made that almost 10-% of the time.
You need very good reflex. Lay bomb push fast unmorph button and wall jump button.
EDIT: i see you deleted your post, but not worry i answer you questions. I hope it help you.
EDIT 2 I have question. If you get one expansion it took 3 seconds game time. Is it better if you skip one enrgy tank in Brinstar and Charge beam? You can save 6 seconds game time. Game is pretty much harder without Charge beam, probably slower. My opinion one enregy tank is enought, only expect Ridley lair. I not know is it Charge skip any faster. Maybe you can save some times in Chozodia and Ridley lair if you have charge and 2 e-tank max.
Thomaz, i can help you your any-% run. There are my sub times my 30.30 run. It was 9 segments run.
Maybe you can break it. I think your is easier run if you use 8-10 segment, i think if you less save points it is much harder if you not have insane any-% skill. I not have good any-% skills it was one reason why i use 8 saves.
Spidey widey your Tourian escape was incredible, i not can understand how you can get 27 seconds escape, seriously?
Transience get 29 sec escape and my best is same as Kridly run (30 seconds). Took lot tries get 30 seconds escape, because my regular goal are 1.28-1.29 time left when timer disappear. Have you some new trick here, because 1.33 time left sounds humanly impossible. Transience (1.31 time left) escape looks absolutely perfectly in my opinion.
Thanks.
+I found couple reviews in gamefaqs. Peoples gives pretty good scores: 6-8 point.
I think i buy that game when it released in Europe. But maybe i must be wait long time. I think it is great game, because i liked Orginal Secret of Mana so much.
youtube not includes good enought more videos yet, because i think game is very new or pretty rarery in the world.
Are you anybody played DS game Children of mana?
Europa release date are 2007(maybe?) I think Usa release date are before europa. I think somebody here are played that game.
Is it great game and is it hard or easy? And how long this game are?
Is it better than Snes game Secret of mana? I think not as good because Snes Secret of mana is maybe one best Snes role playing ever in my opinion.
I watch couple youtube.com videos, but there not enought information because there are only few very short videos.
Ok man you beat my time 0.20 seconds. My goal was 4.04.1x.
This not surprised me, because you have incredible Zero mission skills. Congrats.
Next 4.05 run, maybe only theoretical possible. I hope you recorded that escape if you can get it. I think sda want escape runs there are M-Prime escape run. Maybe you can recorded that escape, if you can get 4.05.
My time was 4.38.8x (maybe?) You was almost 0.40 seconds faster than me. It is very good. I really think you can get 4.05 but i think not 4.06 time yet. But i can see, maybe someday future if you have faster method against pirates.
My Nettori method is same as Kridly run. 1% game i found pretty good strategy his laser form. I use Triple beam shots because this caused much damage against boss.
My opinion Wassup dawgs Nettori strategy not working me. I not know why, but its not working. I not know is it much faster than Kridly method.
Very nice. Made you big mistake against pirates?
Can you really break my time?
Ok i wait.
53 minutes 1% SS sound impossible. Kridly any-% SS is 51 minutes and his run was absolutely very good. He have very good eye door luck and almost everythink working
Couple boss fights was little bit slow, but still his SS run was one best SS ever.
1% game is almost 75% harder speedrun than any-%. I think if you try 53 minutes 1% SS you beat same time Kridly any-% WR time.
I think 48 minutes any-% SS run are much easier complete than 53 minutes 1% SS. Seriously man you are crazy.
Congrats, sounds good especially if it your first 1% time.
There are way get sub hour run, but it is very difficult operation, my 57 minutes 1% run took almost two weeks and multiple hours  complete.
Nice escape Spidey widey. 4.01 time left is pretty regular goal with me.
My 4.04 time left is damn good in my opinion, i made it only one time and i was very satisfied.
Escape not includes any difference normal than hard. I have 5 energy tank max my normal escape.
Just it is same thing play you normal or hard mode.
I coming back sunday. Bye bye and good luck.
Good luck Spidey widey, i know you maybe can get it, but my time is 4.04.1x You need almost one second better than me.
IT IS VERY HARD!!!
Kridly final segment is not best possible, only slow part his run. His Robot ridley was pretty good but not perfect. I can beat almost 10 seconds better escape than  KRidly. I not sure how much he have time left, but i know it is sub 4 minutes (3.55 something) I can get 4.02 very easily, if i can avoid all major mistakes.
EDIT: Spidey widey I know that  but it is pure lucky. My best was 59.7x, but it is very rarery.
Man you need more patience.   Try made every single trick in first tries just like me or Dragondarch. Expect Dragondarch made all trick first tries on single segment. He are crazy
My 100% SS time is 1.00.11, but i am lazy try that again, because everything works only expect was one pulse bombu stoped my shine spark jump 5-7 times ( i lose almost 2 minutes, my SS goal had been 58.xx but anyway).
I use different method in Crateria. I not use wall jump shine spark combination, because it is harder than DD strtegy. DD and me use diagonal shine spark jump. I not know is it any faster or slower.
I recommend you try next 9% normal run, not too hard. My little brother beat that and it was his third goal in the game.
His time was suck almost 3 hours, but i think you can get sub hours 9% run pretty easily.
I am sure you beat 9% run, you are definitely better Zero mission player than my little brother. Little brohter are complete game one time normal any-% one time hard any-% and one time 9% normal.
Yeah i am watched TAS video, looks crazy just like all TAS.
My pirate strategy is different than TAS. My strategy is:
I load full charge and jump down stair and same time i blast full charge shots and many normal wave beam shots on Right side pirate head. I open regular fire against left side pirate and same time right side pirate died. But left side pirate jump one time very high part on the room and i lose it screen and lose escape time at least seconds.
I not know can you avoid that pirate jump. My opinion it is impossible on console.
My escape was absolutely perfect, only way get better is if you found faster way beat Black pirates. My sub times
GET OUT R-RIDLEY ROOM: 59.6X GET OUT NEXT ROOM: 57.1X GET OUT NEXT ROOM: XX.XX GET OUT NEXT ROOM: XX.XX
GET OUT FIRST PIRATE ROOM: 43.XX GET OUT SECOND PIRATE ROOM: 38.XX GET OUT PULSE BOMB ROOM: 34.XX GET OUT THIRD PIRATE ROOM: 32.7-8.X GET OUT SHINE SPARK RAMAPAGE ROBOT ROOM: 24.XX GET OUT SHORTCUTS ROOM WITH MORPH BALL S-PARK: 18.XX GO SHIP (CLOCK DISAPPEAR): 04.1X
Ok Spidey widey try beat that. I think you not can get 4.05 if you not found faster way against pirates.
Finally time
Best Chozodia escape: 56 seconds (4.04 time left)
Extremely well time. Finally 4.04 time left. That was superb, everything works.
Still i see there are some faster strategy beat Black pirates 1-2 seconds faster. I not founded that, but i really think it is possible.
Nice Thomaz. I think if you can get 1.05 run it is really good. Good luck once again.
Best Chozodia escape: 58 seconds (4.02 time left)
I just made new Chozodia escape time. It was very good, i try get 57 seconds escape, because if i can made that it is new WR records. 58 is as good as ajbolt89 best escape. I think i made almost one second mistake here. 4.03 time left is absolutely lowest possible.
It is long way get that. My time was 58.70 (4.02.3x time left)
EDIT: Best Chozodia escape: 57 seconds (4.03 time left probably 4.04?)
4.03 time left. (My time was maybe 4.04) time left but i not sure it is 4.04.01 or 4.03.90, but still very good 57 seconds.
4.04 is easily possible, but this took almost hour get 57 seconds escape. I miss shine spark stopped trick 65% all tries and Black pirates are really frustrating beat perfectly.
If somebody found faster way beat Black pirates faster 4.05 time left is humanly possible. But my route 56 seconds is lowest possible. My escape was superb almost 10 second better than Kridly run escape.
57 seconds is new informal WR by me. My time is maybe 56, but i not sure is it very high 56 or very low 57 seconds, but still i have informal WR.
32 is very good time in Tourian. Sub hour is theoretical possible yet, but your must be vey fast. I not sure get you that early expansions in Norfair. If you get early expansions sub hour is very possible yet.
My time was
Normal: 0.29.34 (57.15 run) Hard:  0.32.58 (1.02.16 run)
Hard mode route was little bit difference i use pretty much same route as Kridly.
I think you beat my time someday, not this time but someday. I am glad because my run still looks almost 30 seconds better than DD WR SS time. Only expect was because i use 14 saves.
35 no way. There are too much difference than any-% SBreak run. It is true you can complete faster Chozodia suit part and escape. I think you can still get 37-38 minutes run. How knows you are crazy enought.
It is very hard define natural route rules. I not any sure how much i can use speedtrick and shortcuts. What are real rules. My run is still pretty natural, i not skip anything, maybe use too much speedtricks. I not skip any natural items. I get all items with natural way.
How much Zoid use shortcuts his MPRIME natural route run? His must be use lot speedtricks.
Sounds very good. I really belive you can get sub hour run this time, because my time was 25.21. and your only 3 minutes slower
I think you get early SM and M expansion in Norfair after screw attack i think if you use same route as me you time before Ridley can 26.xx minutes.
I see you are practice made double bomb jump. You said couple days ago this caused trouble for you.
go go go.
Kridly route is not best possible normal route. I change couple place.
1 I get one missile expansion in brinstar before Tourian. This is faster way on Normal. 2 I think it is faster if you get Norfair early SM and M expansion later game, after Chozodia. Just like Dragondarch. Lava bomb jump took maybe too much time, space jump is faster method.
Just i have early Charge beam my run, because that shine is very difficult made first tries after Kraid battle, i skip that shine spark because i can do it almost 25% of the time and perfect Kraid battle in 5-10 seconds took lot time to beat. Yeah it is maybe almost 6 seconds faster method use that shine before Norfair in my opinion.
Good luck i think you can get sub 1.05 run yet if you play fast enought. I not sure what route you use, i use just same as DD, maybe i uses little bit different method than DD, but anyway, it is almost same as his route.
Map station skip is not too hard, i think actually pretty easy.
Load full charge before map station room. Release speed booster first and release Charge when you going to map station room. Now jump normal jump and break block in the next room.
29.02 is very good before Ridley my time was 25.21.
Your questions: my answers. Hopefully you undesrstand what i mean 1 You mean that screw attack part. I think i not never tried that can i save that shine spark. I think it is not human way. Enemys stoped shine spark very easily and it is maybe human impossible. Kridly and me not use that trick, i think it is impossible.
2 Kridly route is maybe better route with Hard mode route but I think DD route is better normal mode route. Kridly get early SM expansion and M-expansion, DD get that later game. I use same route as DD.
It is faster hard mode, because you can beat faster, Ridley and Hornet battle. Normal mode it is pretty much same get that expansions later game, because you have enought SM against Ridley and Hornet.
I recommend you not get that early SM and M if you speedrun normal mode.
Just that interesting. This mean i´ve must be complete Hornet battle and get SM expansion his room. After long beam i´ve must be get out here with natural route.
I think i can very easily get sub hour run. I not know is it much faster or slower than 100% Sbreak run. But i want try that someday.
Last time i beat game with Natural route over 2 years ago.
EDIT: NAtural route time: 0.44.37
This run was suck ass.   Sub 40 is very easily possible. I choose wrong way couple times, i use lot save, because this route was very weird for me. My run includes full amonut little mistakes and quite much big mistakes.  Took only two hours beat that run.
I not use any shortcuts, but i uses speedtrick. My biggest mess up was Hornet battle. I not have enought missile against him. Just i forget missile recharge in Norfair.
1: i uses bomb jump on power grip pit 2 i uses last shine spark shortcuts on Chozodia escape 3 i uses bomb jump in one room on Norfair, i not know is it wrong use that trick on natural route.
1 i not use any suitless samus shortcuts. 2 i uses natuaral route, i not get any early item + i use all Chozdo map statues.
This run was pure joke. I can get sub 40 very easily. I think 37 is easily possible with natural route.
I think i try good run next time, maybe single segment, but before that i want know real rules!
Maybe my rules was little bit wrong, because this bomb jump on Norfair room i not know is it wrong use that. Is it wrong use suitless samus shortcuts? I not uses suitless samus shortcuts, because i thin it is wrong. Is it wrong use right side route in Ridley lair? I use left side route, but right side route are faster, but is it wrong use that?
I not never break that block with shinespark before Hi jump my 100% run. I use every time that wall jump trick. My opinion it is easier than shine spark stopped trick and break that block with shinespark.
I complete my 100% run before Kridly 100% Hard run. I think i found most good way improve my time very easily sub 57 and i think sub 56, but i am lazy started that again. Because i working that run pretty long time.
I think this interesting speedrun game with natural route.
But my opinion it is borning if you not can du any speedtricks for example bomb jump on power grip pit or single wall jump.
Hard say what are real rules if you speedrun natural route run. What rules Zoid use his 1.30 natural route run on Prime? I think his use speedtricks.
My opinion better idea is: You can use all speedtrick for example single wall jump and bomb jump on power grip pit, but you not can use any shortcuts and not get any early items.
Thanks compliments guys.
I get energy tanks 1-same as Transience 2 Before Ridley, because boss is randomly and kill 50% of the time if i have 1 energy tank 3 Same as Transience 4 Before Acid worm
I get 8 SM max. i Get one more SM expansion in Chozodia. It is good because i missed once again SM against Mecha ridley. This not first time for me. I use enegy recharge in Chozodia suitless part. It was uncessary this time, because i not lose any energy points here. I was bit cautions.
I have 65 missile. I get Ridley lair missile expansion same room as first SM expansion. This took almost 5 seconds game time. +Because i use Acid worm route i get 2 more M expansions +energy tanks.
I made one bad mess up because i get map computer hit. I think its took almost 8 seconds. Second really bad mess up was in Chozodia suit part, i made almost 8 seconds pure mistake here because i have trouble pass one spacepirate.. But still my run was pretty clean, because there are many good parts and good boss fights. If everything working and i get lot risk, i can get 32 minutes with Acid worm route. It is almost same as 30 minutes with acid worm skip route.
EDIT: Thomaz i was pretty surprised when you try speedrun 100% run. You said you have trouble made double bomb jump. I think double bomb jump is extremely useful here. 22 minutes before screw attack is good especially if you have trouble made double bomb jump. My time was 18.58 on my 57.15 minutes run. If you play same skill as me, you can get 1.00 minutes run.
28.04 sounds insane good. Huh!
Good luck with you. I am sure you can get 27 minutes run.
My New single segment time: 0.33.35
-18 seconds better than my previous -No acid worm skip -65 m 8 sm 4 et
- I think if i can made acid worm skip my possible SS goal was 31.xx. 31.xx sounds very good, but 33 not sounds good
I not made any major mistake all boss battle looks very good. No miss shots against Chozo boss. My Chozodia suit part was pretty slow and i was too cautions because i get 8 SM max. I not using light room shortcuts on suitless part, because if  i miss that my game is over instantly. Too big risk.
I not miss any shinespark only expect was: i not trying stopped my shinespark on the edge on Chozdia escape.
But this was very good SS run on my SS route. It is almost 2 minutes slower than WR route because this run not includes crazy acid worm skip.
Chozo guy is very randomly boss. This is one reason why i use savepoint in Chozodia suitless part. This not big trouble beat boss without miss shots, but problem is how fast boss diagrams appears. You can easily lose 10 seconds if boss diagrams appeared slow enought. Kridly run his diagrams appeared pretty slow, i think somebody can save easily 5-7 seconds game time. My 100% run i use save middle suitless part and after Chozo boss.
Green rinkas not drop easily super missile refills. I made almost 1-2 minutes pure mistake when i try get two SM refill my 100% Hard mode SS run. Red rinkas drops SM refill very rarery, i think almost 0.5% of the time. Greenrinkas, almost 15-20% of the time. I have very bad lucky my 100% Hard mode SS run. I kill almost 50 rinkas red and green but still any rinkas not drop any SM refills.
Couple TAS trick are very difficult made. Did you diagonal bomb jump on power grip pit?
TAS runner said this is little bit more faster, than vertical bomb jump. Your first segment was extreme good. Transience time was 5.45 when his push start button. My best are 5.49 on my 9% run. I thin i made lot little mistake +energy recharge took 6 seconds on 9% run.
I am worst Chozodia player i need use this save on middle chozodia because my single wall jump are sometimes pretty unstable.
Heh first time here when i am wrong. anyway.
Sparky said long time ago he know he can beat kip run.
But he not never complete that test run. Maybe sub hour is possible, but he maybe have lot new tricks. I wait his run. :-s
Still Kip run is best possible. His run are old, but maybe Sparky have lot new tricks, yeah maybe he can improve that one. Without new tricks Kip run was almost perfectly.
Why you not can promise 1000000 usa dollars if somebody break kip 1.04 run.
His run was absolutely perfect.
Maybe i can du it if you promise 1 million dollars. But 100 dollars is not enought yet.
Oh i see your profile Friends code working. But why age are disapled? What is reason?
Why i not can see my age my profile? Same problem Hunters friends codes not working here.
This maybe stupid question but i am so curious.
I think your must be have couple new speedtrick your any-% run. Your run was 40 sec better Than transience, this mean you improiving Transience time almost 10 seconds per segment. How many segment you use your any-% run? and can you tell your sub times in save rooms. I am curious =P~
Good luck if you someday try beat sub 40 minutes 9% run. I help you little bit because i tell everysingle savepoints sub times, this made segments lot easier beat fast enought. But still this not easy operation, because i have very good manipulate luck and good skill. Your skill are still better than my, because i not can never complete sub 29 any-% run, but you can sub 28 minutes.
go go go Spidey widey
+Nice work Piccolocube. Very nice.   I not sure what 100% route you use. I think you use WR route. I am maybe wrong.
Yeah. Escape is really easy mess up, if you have enought unlucky. I have 3-4 very good tries after 2 days and 7 hours.  Robot ridley is really difficult beat perfecly.
two times i mess up against black pirates, because i choosing wrong place. one time i not get enought risk on escape and third tries i died in first pirate room, because i get double hit with space pirate and i died.
But finally fourth tries was almost perfectly everything works. I surprised this was 7 seconds better than my 43.40 minutes ending.
I think 9% SS run are really scared, because of course you made stupid mistake on escape or black pirates. I not never mess up my game against balck pirtes before this run and now i mess up two times my game aganist black pirates. Just if everything works it is sure you made some stupid, easy mistakes.
If you play 9%SS run this not very bad mistake if you choose wrong place against black pirates. Good NOTE: get out room and go back, but this not working on segmented run, because this took almost 20 seconds game time and it is REALLY BIG MISTAKE.
I not trying 9% SS because i not never have enought lucky complete that one. But my 9% segmented are really amazing run. Yeah 39.xx is theoretical possible. I think i can get maximal 40.xx run, but now i get long break, this run took one week and two days and almost 20 hours complete.
EDIT: If you want beat game 39.xx you need next skills: 1: Your must be are as fast as Transience or Spidey widey 2: You need little bit more manipulate luck than me 3: You need as fast Mother brain battle as MR.X.
Thanks your compliments.
Now i must be say i not undestand your question. What you mean when you ask optimal? Sorry i not founded that word my dictionary.
I think i am very satisfied my run, still pretty disapointted my escape, because 41.27 is possible if i can get lowest possible escape and lowest possible boss fight. Just i was cowardly.
Yesterday i little exaggerate my Robot ridley battle. Battle itself took 1.05-1.07 minutes, but still very fast. Took two days and almost 6 hours complete as fast Robot ridley. It is very hard say can i beat ever faster boss fight, but maybe you can but only 0,000001% of the time.
ajbolt89 segment was little bit faster, but he get SM refills and 1 SM= same as 6-7 missiles.
EDIT: My finally time: 0.41.35
-7 seconds better than previous ending. Finally everything works. Robot Ridley dies my clock was 38.58. I get almost full risk on escape. Only worst part was rampage robot, because i have 0 missile after boss. But i am 99% sure i not never try improve my ending time again. This was almost perfect for me.
My finally total: This run was 2.05 minutes better than my previous. :P
I improiving last segment 11 seconds
Best 9% time normal: 0.41.43
-My escape was 15 seconds slower than last time i have 2 reason why!
I was very cautions on escape becuase my Robot ridley was absolutely perfect second reason are: i have 0 missile after boss and rampage robot moved very slowly, without missiles. This took almost 5-7 seconds i think. I think i beat boss itself in 1 minutes.  I have very good refill luck and boss shots all laser upper corner.  My time: save before boss: 37.08    boss dies: 38.59. I really think battle itself took almost minutes, maybe less.
Someday i think i try 41.3x ending. It is very easily possible. I am sure 41.2x ending is very possible if everything works. But today are very bad/unlucky day. This took almost 3 hours because all tries i made some stupid mistake on escape.
This was only 1 seconds slower segment than my 43.40 minutes run. My RObot ridley was almost 10 seconds better than ever.
Good job.
Still your run looks much slower than my because you skip acid worm and it is almost two minutes faster way. I think sub 32 minutes is very good SS with worm skip.
Try again and again. Maybe sub 32 is very possible with your skill.
Heh! only 10 seconds. No problem you beat my time soon.
go go go MR:X
How many people are played Nes game: Dragon lair
Screenshots here
Game are really hard and Dirk controls are super horribles. How many people are complete that game without cheats. I complete that game long time ago. I using USA emulator but i not use savestate and i not use slowdown and i not use any cheats. Belive or not game took almost three weeks complete and i working couple hours per day.
TAS WR are 03.59 JPN versio. I think you not can beat game never as fast with USA versio because NTCS versio are much slower than JPN. Game normal clear time are 20 minutes.
Last boss are really fun. Took 3 day complete. Boss itself is not super hard, but if you lose your all lifes your game started in first level. One guy in gamefaqs said this fight are one hardest in the video game history.
SDA not includes Dragon lair speedrun video yet. I hope someday see that video. My clear tries took 4 deaths and all deaths i dieds against last boss. All level took lot practice first time.
Pretty interesting game and darn hard.
Yeah i can improve my Mother brain and Mecha ridley segment.
I think just 40-sec Mother brain segment and 25-30 seconds Mecha ridley segment. My possible goal can be 40.45. Of course i made some mistakes and miss couple refills and i use one uncessary save room middle suitless part. I think my first segment was little slow. Spidey widey said 5.3x is possible and my time was 5.49.
This is metroid2002. All impossible is possible here.
I not know can i never complete sub 40 minutes run, but it is theoretical possible. I know it is possible, but very difficult operation.
I think if i can beat Mother brain segment sub 3 minutes i can save almost 1 minutes game time (i not understand how hell it is possible, but i belive it what MR.X said).
This time my Robot ridley segment was 12 seconds slower than my 43.40 minutes run. I can get 41.3x ending screen now if i complete super perfect Robot ridley battle and escape.
Hell yeah i miss couple refill in Tourian and i think Ridley and Kraid is possible beat little bit faster. It is theoretical very easily possible get 39.xx time.
But now i get break and i maybe try someday improve little bit my Robot ridley battle and try get 41.4x run.
+Thanks your compliments Thomaz.
Best time 9% Normal: 0.41.54
-16 segment (15 save)
I finally complete that run. I working one week and 2-4 hour per each day. :P
My Robot ridley segment was almost 15 sec slower than last time. I think i can get 41.30 if everything works very well. But still this fight are very randomly and hard beat fast.
I made one very good Robot ridley fight but i died chozodia escape because i made super stupid mistake. I think if i was complete that tries my goal was probably 41.30 but anyway, sub 42 minutes took two hour complete. My regular goal was everytime 42.10- 42.15, but finally i made 41.54 and i was very satisfied.
Ok i really think sub 40 is humanly possible 9% time if you complete Mother brain segment sub 3 minutes and robot ridley 30 seconds faster and try have little bit more manipulate luck than me. But yeah i am not robot. New Super Metroid WR player is robot HEH!
Ok guys! Next sub 40 minutes run.
My opinion your method are harder than my own. I can beat boss your method but my fight are definitely slower. I think i beat boss your method 10-20% of the time and own method 85-90% of the time. It is too frustrating use your method and get much refills same time.
Anyway it late now because i copy my game in Chozodia. I think i was very satisfied my 3.48 minutes MB segment, it was good on my method.
My method is so much different than your.
I stand same platform as Mother brain and freeze and destroy rinkas and get lot refills and shot missiles her eye. I dodge his beam attack i going morph ball form.
My opinion my Mother brain was fast, not best possible but still fast. My normal goal are 4.30 and now this time it was 3.48. I have good refill luck and battle took long time beat fast enought. Actually my Mother brain battle was multiple seconds faster than ajbolt89 Hard 10% (4-missile route battle). There are not much difference than 9% normal battle.
I think your and ajbolt89 method are faster, but i not can play your method.
WHAT HELL MY EYES CAN SEE!!
32 SS no way.
Incredible works. AArgh i not can watch that yet, becuase i not have Mediaplayer.
Is it japanesse version faster than USA versio? My opinion 38 SS was very well, perfects run.
Couple segment are done now
Chozodia first save: 0.28.27 (1.40 min ahead)
My MOther brain segment was 8 faster than previous run. I made 4 seconds mistake on escape. I falling down (1.10 time left) Actually i think i am little bit slower than MR.X. My method are different than MR.x method. I miss 1-2 refill and miss 2-3 missile against her eye.
Chozodia middle: 0.30.27
I save my game middle Chozodia, because i not very good single wall jumper
Chozdia suit Samus same save as Transience: 0.34.30 (1.50 min ahead)
I made very good segment.  I made couple little mistake, but i beat fast Chozdo guardian fight. Boss diagrams appeared fast and i not miss any shots.
Two segment are left. If i complete game same skill than last time, my possible goal are: 0.41.50. I think its must be very hard, nearly impossible beat as fast robot ridley than last time. I can see that. Hopefully sub 42 minutes.
I am 99% sure i not beat game sub 41 this time.
I am very surprised if i complete that sub 42 minutes. I not sure how good my Chozodia was, i think it was good, but my run are 8 months old and i think i have more amount skill now than last time.
Last time i not using light room shortcuts on suitless samus part and i lose 9 seconds. Now i can complete that trick because i have more amount skill than last time. MR.X Mother brain battle was very insane part, maybe if i can beat this boss same skill than him, i can improve almost 20 seconds.
Now i scared: My GBA can broken or something bad happens. But look forward.
tdk: I not submit that run yet there i couple reason 1: All data technology are too complicate for me. Just i am so stupid. I need some very good friend how can help me if i want submit someday my run.
2: GBA player made game almost 30-50% harder beat. I need lot practice.
tdk good luck with your Fusion 1% SS run.
Couple segments are done today
Tourian middle: 21.16 (1.17 min ahead) Tourian end: 22.58 (1.16 min ahead 2 barrier destroyed: 23.37 (1.15 min ahead) 99 e 0m all barrier destroyed 24.40 (1.32 min ahead) 99 e 5m
Last time my barrier segment was absolute perfects, i lose one seconds my previous run but its took almost one hour beat both barrier in 39 seconds. I think this was as perfect as last time.
My first Metroid part was amazing it is 10 sec better than my previous. I miss only one missile refills. all metroid gave 2 refills and all rinkas give one reffils. Only expect was last rinkas.
Second metroid part caused problem, i lose one seconds here on my previous run. I miss about 5 missile refills in last metroid room, but i was lazy try that again, because this part took so much time beat fast enought.
EDIT: All barriers are destroyed: 24.40 (1.32 minutes ahead) 99e 5m My barrier segment took total 1.42 minutes. It is really darn fast, i think my last time barrier segment took 2 minutes. I skip one save, i not save my game after third barrier. Last time i use that save and its took lot time.
It is very difficult try beat game sub 42 minutes. I think my possible goal is 42.30 if everythink works very well. I am pretty sure i never can improve my Robot ridley battle, because it was insane. My second best ending was 44.20 and best 43.40, just it was insane.
Of course 41 is possible yet but i need lot patience and lucky and most very insane segments.
Very nice 100% time Piccolo cube.
I can wait you someday improve my Fusion 100% run. My time is 1.22 and it is over one years old.
When i speedrun i use every time 2 save files Yehh i use copy.
I copy my 10.46 0 missile run, because i think it was little bit faster than 5 missile run.
Congrats MR.X nice time. You beat my time easily because acid worm skip is very good shortcuts and you can do it. My acid worm skip is almost 10% of the time, i not never try that my SS run.
EDIT Segment 5 are done: 0.14.17 save before acid worm (46 sec ahead)
If i beat game same skill than last time my posible time= 43.40 -46= 42.54. Hell yeah i need improve yet 55 sec because my objective are sub 42 minutes.
Segment 5 was pretty fast, i made 2-3 little mistakes. I think i not try that segment again becuase i maybe can improve that only 3 seconds. My segment 5 was 7 seconds faster than my last run.
EDIT: 2 Acid worm segment are complete. This segment caused really much problem. I kill Acid worm maximal possible rounds. 2-3 refills per round. Last side hopper room caused lot problem. i using jump method, yeah i not kill or freeze any enemys. It is almost 20 seconds faster way, but really hard and irritating.
My time was: 0.16.49 (48 sec ahead, only 2 seconds better than my previous run) i have 19 energy point and 5 missile on savepoints.
Next segment are Kraid one hardest segment in the game. It was suck ass my previous run. I can improve easily 15 seconds or more.
I really need lucky. THIS RUN FRUSTRATED ME SO SO MUCH! :x
READ THIS: My save Tourian first save: 19.50 (1-minutes 7 sec ahead)
My KRaid segment was amazing it is 19 seconds faster than my previous run. IT JUST WAS AMAZING JOB. Kraid battle was nearly perfect took only about 30-40 seconds beat. Kraid died my game clock was 17.37. I made some mistakes after Kraid because  perfect kraid battle nervous me so much.
Yay sub 20 minutes in tourian sounds like crazy.
This not come too late. Thanks!
I think i need one refill in ridley lair because there are one missile block. I´ve must be kill one bug and get refill. This took almost one seconds.
On norfair i´ve must be get all three refills because there are lot missile blocks this took almost 2-3 seconds.  (i think i lose almost 3-4 seconds game time)
Yeah my 5 missile save, i have 81 energys. Yeah you are right but i need only one energy refill and i not need picked up any missile refills. I think i lose only one seconds game time.
I try maybe both save files and watch which are faster. I think there are no major difference, but i think 0 missile run are 1-2 seconds faster, but i think it is lot harder.
Ok thanks i maybe try both 5 missile and 0 missile run, i think both are as fast as.
Me too! i hate first segment so much. This caused lot trouble for me. I made two good tries and both tries i was so nervous and miss bomb jump on power grip pit. I finally made third good tries i finally complete first segment without any major mistakes my time was 5.49 it surprised me, because it looks like pretty much same as transience run.
First segment is definintely longest in the 9% game, it is only almost 6 minutes segment. My next segment are pretty long but i like that because you not need much manipulate lucky.
I not know is it my gba broken or Zero mission. + i not can play another console because i hate SP and DS controls.
Well Sement 3 are finally complete 08.58 before Ridley. (24 sec ahead)
Took almost two hours improve three seconds. My Giant slug/imago cocoon battle was 4 seconds slower than my best Giant slug battle ever, but my Ridley lair part was amazing now.
This segment was pure nightmare. You need manipulate luck before boss and against boss and in Ridley lair spider room.
Next part are Ridley. Oh i hate that fight. It is pure luck 99% of the time. :|
EDIT: Ridley segment are done. But i not can choose which are better segment. Can somebody help me:
Save file 1 Time 10.46 (39 sec ahead) i have 0 missile but full energy max. I lose time if i picked up missile refills
Save file 2 Time 10.50 (35 sec ahead) i have full 5 missile but only 82 energy point and this is 4 seconds slower than my best. I not lose time because i have full missile refills.
My both Ridley fight was pretty darn fast, but yeah i was little bit nervous after Ridley i miss bug freeze jump my both run. I using bomb jump onto the freeze bug and this took little bit my time.
But anyway have sombody idea which are better segment? I think both are as fast as, because i think missile refills collection took almost 4 seconds game time.
Well 43.40 was very good, but yeah 42.xx is easily possible i think 41.xx if i have enought patience.
I am maybe pretty crazy, because my GBA or Zero mission are little bit broken or something, but i still want try that, because my best 9% run are over 8 months old.
I started run 9% run sub 42 minutes.
First segment are done
0.05.49 (11-sec ahead) [complete] 0.07.08 (16 sec ahead) [complete] 0.09.01 (21 sec ahead) [complete ?] (i try maybe save 5 sec)
FIRST SEGMENT: Looks helluva lot cooler than my previous. This was only 3 sec slower than Transience any-% WR run.
I am little bit worry my GBA or Zero mission because it is old and maybe little bit broken because it go off without any reason. I started this run but i think it is very big risk.
Spidey widey are right 5.3x is possible first segment time, but its must be very hard. I made some mistakes, but my segment was still very good.
EDIT: Second segment are complete. I complete NO damage segment, and this segment was very short but belive or not it took 45 minutes complete. Just there are lot manipulate luck parts and irritating ripper wall jumps.
EDIT: 2 Third segment are complete, but i think i try that segment again, because my Imago cocoon battle was pretty medicore. Boss dies my time was 08.02 it is pretty good, but i miss 2-3 missile refills. I get 5 missile and 99 energy point on ridley lair save, because i can save 6 seconds before Ridley. It is very frustrating beat perfect Imago cocoon, because you need much refills and much lucky. Still i have 21 seconds ahead and my third segment was 5 seconds faster. I think i can improve 4-5 seconds if i can complete perfect Imago cocoon.
5.30 sounds insane. I use one chozo stautue recharge my run, because my opinion it is faster/easier get full missiles with chozo staute.
My first segment was pretty slow, i think it was only 3 seconds faster than ajbolt89 run, but his run was 10% hard and 2-missile made hive room couple times slower beat.
40.5x is sure lowest possible. I think sub 40 is not human possible time.
I think there are couple good ideas improve my 43 minutes time. Get every metroid 2 missile refills.
MR.X Mother brain battle are INSANE, his battle was almost 20 seconds better than my.
My Robot ridley was insane i think it is really fast on 9% game, maybe lowset possible.
If you try improve my time you need much better first segment.
My first segment was
0.06.01: Norfair first save. Pretty bad. I think 5.40 is possible, if you have insane skills.
I not know, because 100% sub 56 interested just now.
I am sure 42 minutes is easily possible because my 9% normal run are 10 months old. I not use all shortcuts. I miss couple Missile refills and i not never can beat game as fast as Spidey widey. I think 41 is very human possible 9% time. 40 maybe????, maybe not.
Because i hate low-% SS run!
I think low-% SS started frustrated me and everysingle times i made some stupid mistake.
I like made segmented runs. I think my 43 is pretty darn good. I think someday i want try 41.xx 9% run.
41-40xx is lowest human time.
Hell yeah! :P  Sub 32 is not caused any problem for you. You said 46.xx is not insane 9% run. Try beat my 43.40. It is insane run.
Pretty interesting
I not never tried that.
i can made wall jump after bomb just like Transience and Kridly.
You working 9% normal TAS how good time you try. My time on console are 43.40. Can you complete 9% normal sub 40 minutes on TAS.
Good luck MR.X
I think sub 33 is too easy for you. I think i recommend you: Try  sub 32 run. It is good enought. Your low-% run was insane. 46 minutes normal 9% is really darn good.
But still good luck!
I can do all bomb jumps, but just that horrizontal BJ over acid pool is too long travel for me.
Diagonal and infinite bomb jump are very easy for me only expect are GBA palyer made Infinite bomb jump almost 50% harder made.
Long time ago when i was Zero mission master, i beat Mother brain 90 of the times on my 9% normal run, but i think my last low-% run are really old, 4-months or more.
10% hard Mother brain is my opinion as hard as 9% normal. took same more tries. I think 0-3 tries, it is pretty randomly.
One stupid mistake kill instant hit.
I love bomb jump, only expect are i not like bomb jump on GBA player, because it is so different.
diagonal bomb jump is my favorite.
My die spots on 9% Normal SS
1 Tourian last barrier 2 In Mother brain battle 3 Tourian escape 4 Tourian last metroid room
i am so lazy try that run because it is so long and frustrating.
Hard any-% SS is pretty frustrating it is definitely harder than 15% normal SS run.
I think my 46 minutes run are pretty slow, but still good. I get early varia because all Tourian metroids kill instant hit without varia. I get early screw attack because Chozodia segment are easier complete fast enought. I get lot early expansions, because Tourian are so randomly and lucky part on SS run.
i think sub 40 is really good hard SS time. My best segmented are 35.52. I think if i not skip acid worm i lose two minutes and Tourian are impossible beat perfectly. I can still made sub 40 minutes hard SS run.
I think your skill you can easily complete sub 38 minutes hard SS run. I think you said you made horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool 50% of the time and it is good enought.
Today i started try Hard mode SS, but Ridley kill me. I not understand why, because i use my low-% strategy.
My previous Hard SS is 46.26. I get early varia and early screw and i not skip acid worm. Just i was so cautios man.
Today i try skip early varia and early screw, but Ridley kill me. Who i hate that fight.
After when i died my SS hard mode run i started normal mode, but my time is so bad, i think my 33.53 is pretty good, but i think i can beat game sub 33 without acid worm skip pretty easily, but i am pretty worst SS runner.
I ask one question: you said couple weeks ago you started run 9% normal SS are you complete that? and what is your time?
My time Single segment normal with GBA player. 0.35.33 (no acid worm skip)
My run was really suck ass, especially Mother brain i lose almost 45-50 sec against her because i miss two super missile and falling acid pool couple times. I think GBA player made game 50% harder than regular GBA.  My run was still very suck, because i choose wrong way couple times. I think normal any-% are pretty hard for me, because my last run are couple months old. Still my time was surprised good, because i made million mistakes and couple very big mistake.
My best time SS is 33.53 (no worm skip)with regular gba.
Spidey widey i think if you try recorded your run your must be very skillful, because GBA player made game really much harder.
It is very hard only with GBA player.
This not caused trouble for me when i played game on my GBA.
GBA player made some point million times harder. Bomb jump are harder and shinespark are harder.
Any-% run little bit frustrated me, because i hate first segment. Took almost two-three hours complete good first segment. My best time
5.56 Norfair first save after power grip.
Second reason is: i hate Acid worm skip segment. I hate acid worm skip and every time i made some stupid mistake on Kraid lair. This segment took 2 days complete.
Third reason is Tourian. Perfect tourian segment caused really much trouble for me.
100% normal is definitely my favorite speed run, because you not need very much manipulate luck and there are not acidworm skip. Low-% is pretty fun speedrun because you not can complete super-perfect time.
Maybe someday near future i maybe can try sub 30 minutes run, but only if you made video your 28 or 27 minutes run. I  promise watch it and i maybe can try sub 30 minutes run, but just now this not interested me.
My runs:
54.xx 47.xx 44.xx 39.56 37.2x 36.1x 35.07 33.45 32.56 31.56 31.18 30.30
I did my first any-% run almost one years 4 months ago.
I think i not never tried sub 30 minutes run. 30.30 caused really much trouble for me. I think i never try sub 30 minutes run. Maybe hard mode any-% SS or 100% segmented interested just now.
ajbolt89 use only 2 savepoint on chozodia. One Chozodia entrance and second before Chozo guardian.
I think ajbolt89 use couple good saves, but he not use saves Tourian entrance. He use save before Ridley and complete Tourian same time.
I use 12 save my 35.52 hard mode run. I use 3 saves on tourian.  1 tourian entrance 2 save middle tourian and 3.save before barriers.
Middle tourian save was maybe pretty uncessary, but it is very frustrating get multiple SM refills and missile refills fast enought. I think it is definitely faster if you use one save Tourian entrance and ajbolt89 not use that one.
You are very good horrizontal bomb jumper, because i can do that 0% of the time and acid worm skip regular route 10% of the time.
Oh i hate that trick! :x
i use normal mode route on hard because i not can do that horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool, but still my run was surprised good, i lose only 1 minutes 52 seconds ajbolt89 hard mode and i made lot small mistakes.
I think 34.xx is possible my skill normal mode route on hard mode.
But i want say: i recommend you use more save than ajbolt89 because there are lot manipulate luck segment. I think your must be save game Tourian entrance because your must be get lot SM refills in tourian. I think ajbolt89 Tourian segment was pretty slow, because he not save game Tourian entrance.
Spidey widey:
What is your best Hard any-% time?
I think you can beat ajbolt89 time pretty easily, because his run looks slower than Transience any-% run and your any-% normal are much faster than Transience run.
Maybe you need more patience on hard mode. Metroids drops pretty randomly SM refills and second randomly part are Ridley. Ridley drops super missile refills pretty randomly, but if you have enought patience he can drop 2-SM refills and its good enought.
My best Hard mode time are 35.52, i not have very much patience because Ridley drops 0 SM refill. Tourian segment was pretty good, but not perfect and i am slower than you.
Is it ajbolt89 hard mode route any faster than regular normal mode route? I think horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool looks very hard and caused lot problem. My opinion both route are as good as.
I think if you use normal mode route with hard mode you can still improve ajbolt89 hard mode time, but you need much more refill lucky against Ridley and inside Tourian.
also suit Chozodia are slower because you not have screw attack.
Yeah i know. Can you read my wrote/reply again.
It is pretty worst way on normal mode in my opinion, but not hard mode. I not sure is it any faster on hard mode but i think both way are as good.
Dragondarch not use that route his 100% normal mode run and i use same route as Dragondarch. My opinion Dragondarch route are best possible 100% route.
Only expect: Kridly found couple very good trick in Ridley lair segment. I like his Ridley lair segment, because there are lot very good parts and strategys.
Very nice job Pege
Second best time in Finland. You need 4 minutes 13 seconds yet if you want beat my Finland records.
go go go
I think your run was hard mode. There are only 1 ripper on hard mode, but this expansion is much harder get with normal mode, because there are 2 rippers, and 2 ripper made bomb jump couple times harder made.
I not never tried that on normal mode, but i know it is harder, but i think not impossible.
EDIT: this is worst way on normal mode. i get that expansion before Tourian my 100% normal run, because it is little bit faster and easier way..
I think this is faster way on hard mode. Kridly get early expansion his new 100% hard mode run
Your must be are very good sequence breaker, because no space jump sounds impossible in my opinion.
Congrats, very nice work.
Someday i want see new low-% Hard mode run, there are lot expert sequence breaker and very good Echoes player. I think Boost guardian or Quadraxis stoped my run because i am pretty medicore Echoes players.
I hope you or somebody Echoes master try improve Kip hard mode low-% time.
Jep niin n채kyy.
Minne sinä teet noita suomenoksia?
Tuone pää sivulleko?
Sanoit että Super Metroid on valmis, mutta eihän sielä ollut vielä suomenkielistä valintaa.
I finally watched Kridly run.
Congrats, your run looks insanes.
I like especially your second last segments and Ridley lair segment.
Your last escape was pretty worse actually it is 6 second slower than my best escape, but anyway your run was amazing job.
I have orginal GBA. :P
GBA Sp and DS controls are horrible in my opinion.  :x
I think if you have enought patience you can improiving your run sub 28 pretty easily. My 30.30 any-% run took 4 days and my 10% Hard run took only 3 days to beat +each day i played for two-four hours almost same as you, yeah i not very patient. My only very long run was my Metroid Fusion 1% in 57 minutes. This one took almost two weeks to complete, but still i not made any perfect segments. I not never working any Zero mission runs two weeks or more.
Most SDA player working couple months, but my opinion it is very frustrating operation.
Well I can actually beat Dragondarch 100% WR time on segmented. My best are 57.15 and maybe i can easily less my saves, i think 12 segment is good enought, my current run includes 14 saves.
Just i am pretty impatient man and this run took only 4 days.
I think i can complete sub 56 minutes run, but i am pretty sure i never ever can complete sub 55 minutes segmented run
One reason why i not try improve that yet: My GBA is little bit broken, i think i not can made any very long run. My GBA go off without any reason. I need bought new GBA if i want try beat Dragondarch run.
WR is 1.27 by iamentjackie (sorry i not remember his name his account is hard write)
Just that i mean when i said i am pretty worst SS runner. I nervous pretty easily and made very easily lot stupid mistakes. Example i can miss Super missile against Mecha very easily on SS run, just that is reason why i get 8 SM max.
I know Spidey widey you can beat current WR SS time very easily, because you are skillest any-% runner in the world. Because you have any-% WR time. You are better any-% runner than Transience.
I not know are you good SS runner, i think you are pretty good SS runner because your SS time is 30.36 only 6 seconds slower than my segmented. I am pretty good segmented runner, but perfect single segments run nervous me so much.
I think if you try made perfect SS run you made very easily some very stupid mistake, one example is: if you miss last shine spark on Chozodia escape. This one took almost 20 seconds your time and it is very bad mistake if you try made perfect SS run.
I really wonder how Dragondarch can made lot very good SS runs. I like his 100% SS run because that run not includes any big mistakes, and he are crazy boy and he working on sub 55 SS run. My opinion this sounds impossible, because you not can have manipulate luck and SS you not can save or restart your game.
It is useful if you want beat zebetites and Tourian little bit faster.
EDIT: I am stupid when i get 8 SM max my SS run. I get 8 because i scared if i miss couple super missile against Robot ridley.
I think i get 8 SM max but this took only 5-6 seconds game time. This not very bad mistake.
I get 65 missiles max on my SS run, because i not skip Acid worm. Yeah Tourian zebetite part are faster.
I think 60 maybe better than 55 if you speedrun SS run. I recommend you get next time one missile expansion in Ridley lair, same room where you found first SM expansion. This took only couple seconds your game time, i think it is as fast as Kraid lair expansion after Kraid battle, but it is easier. I recommend you get both expansions, i am pretty sure you can improiving easily 20-30 seconds your Tourian time.
Is it possible beat any faster any-% SS run if you have 55-60 missile max?
50 missile is best possible on any-% segmented run, because you can save and have lot manipulate luck. But SS you not can have manipulate luck and you not can save your game.
I think if you get 2 more missile expansion than Transience. Get missile expansions in next rooms:
1 get missile expansion in Ridley lair same room as where you found first SM expansion
2 Get second missile expansion in Kraid lair after Kraid battle.
I think you can complete Tourian and zebetite segment little bit faster if you have 60 missile max on SS run.
Today i practice acid worm skip on my 100% file but today i am very unlucky and this took almost 100 tries. Normal i can do that trick about 10% of the time.
But i´ve never try that trick single segment run, bcause it is damn hard, i think pure lucky for me.
I am maybe one best Zero mission player ever, but i not can do acid worm skip very good.
Congrats you skip acid worm. My single segment run looks much cooler than your, because it is 33.53 without acid worm skip. I think i can beat sub 32 SS run if i can skip acid worm, but that trick took everysingle time about 1-10 tries and it is too big risk on SS run.
I not like speedrun SS runs, because every time i have bad luck and some stupid enemy (pulse bombu my 100% SS run) or room caused trouble. I made every time some stupid big mistakes.
Last time i have big trouble complete 100% single segment run. Pulse bombu stop my shine spark 5-7 times, and i lose 1-2 minutes game time.
Just that is reasons why i not like speedrun single segment runs.
My best 100% normal are 57.15 and i use 14 savepoints. same skill and single segment my time was almost 55.40.
I say my run was pretty perfectly. I not see way complete game sub 55 minutes. Sub 56 hell yeah it is possible. I think if you mean you speedrun sub 55 single segment you need lot better run than my segmented. If you speedrun single segment you not can use savepoints and you not can have manipulate luck.
Hell yeah i know you are maybe crazy enought, skillful enought and lucky enought.  Good luck if you never ever try improve your time.
Dragondarch.
You maybe can improve Kridly run with single segment. Kridly lose over one minutes with save points.
I see your SS 100%  with normal looks insane, i not never can beat your run with segmented, because i lose too much time when i save my game and your 100% SS run was pretty perfect without any saves.
go go go
Yeah i know what his means, but i said i´ve not never trying that. how long i can survive.
I think i survive almost 5 minutes on hard mode 3 energy tanks max. I think i can survive little bit longer, but i´ve not never trying.
Congrats Kridly amazing 100% hard mode time.
It is actually only 1 minute 9 seconds slower than my 100% normal mode run. I am sure your run looks better than my 100% normal mode.
Yeah but 100% normal mode is much easier and faster than hard mode. You are really good 100% speedrunner.
I not can watch that video yet, but i maybe watch your video in next week.
I think you run secret world run, because you not can have power bombs against Boost guardian.
My Best Boost guardian segment took almost 2-3 minutes (normal mode), i beat him in second rounds and battle itself took almost 1 minutes. I not know what is my longest battle but i think it is almost 5 minutes on hard mode.
Acid worms skip is not possible with low-%, because you not can beat rio room. You have only 5 missile max, you need  about 20 missile + perfect horrizontal bomb jump.
EDIT: Oh sorry you mean any-%. I read wrong
Diifficult? :-s
I use that strategy my 9% single segment run. My opinion this is easier way, but slower, i not use that my low-% segmented run, because it is too slow.
My low-% segmented strategy is different, its not same than ajbolt strategy and its not same as this, i use all three platforms, but it is very hard explains. This  strategy is fast, my best MB segment are 3.56 minutes.
Just that i mean when i said my english is not very good.
Yeah it is hard explain but i try.
Stand same platform as Mother brain. Freeze lower rinkas and destroy upper rinkas.  If upper rinkas drop missile refill get it and jump back Mother brain platforms.
I hope you understand what i mean.
Actually Mother brain is pretty easy, because i know good strategy beat her. Only expect this battle is very nervous on 9% normal single segment, because if you push wrong button and falling acid pool, you died very quickly.
Good strategy beat this fight, not use ajbolt89 strategy if you not speedrun.
I use Transience method i jump same platform as Mother brain, i shot 5 missile and i freeze and destroy rinkas. Rinkas drops missile refills. This is hard explain because i not speak very good english.
But strategy is easier but slower than ajbolt89 strategy. But it is good strategy on 9% SS run, because you not try beat game very fast.
I not never found very good strategy beat Mecha ridley on 9% SS normal. Sometimes boss shots all lasers down corner and shooting missile same times. You died very quickly. Battle is pure lucky in my opinion and very big risk if you not save your game.
I think it is still easier than low-% run, because if you played single segment any-% you can made some mistakes, because you have 5 energy tank max, but djgrenola have only 0 energy tank, because his run was low-%.
Iowa said Grapple beam skip save almost 4 minutes, maybe if you skip grapple beam on single segment, you maybe made some mistakes and it still saves 2-minutes your game time.
9% Normal single segment is so hard, my opinion it is much harder than 10% hard mode segmented.
I die tourian escape long time ago, because i am so nervous after Mother brain. This was very stupid death, but anyway.
You need lot skill, lucky and maybe patience because Robot ridley attack randomly, this is only real problem on 9% normal single segment. I not know how hard is complete easy 9% SS because i´ve not never played easy mode.
I think you maybe have really big trouble beat 9% SS normal because you said you have big trouble beat Robot ridley with 10% Hard mode. My opinion Robot ridley is almost as hard 9% normal than 10% hard.
But good luck.
DJ grenola said you found much easier strategy skip grapple beam.
I hope you try next improve Silent echo single segment run, he not skip grapple beam and i think grapple beam skip is almost 10 minutes faster way complete that game.
Congrats, pretty good run.
But i think you can improve easily thats your run. You said long time ago your 9% time on normal is 46 minutes, i think its must be looks cooler than your any-% run.
Maybe you are better low-% speedrunner than any-% speedrunner, because 46 minutes with 9% is very good time but 35 on any-% is pretty good time.
But congrats.
I improiving my Gorea battles about 25 minutes faster than my previous
GOREA 1: 41.11 minutes GOREA 2: 06.21 minutes
This game is hard. I really wonder how is possible beat Gorea 1 less than 7 minutes.
My own are 41 minutes and my previous 57 minutes. i think i´ve never beat him less than 20 minutes.
I am amateur Hunters player. :|
He skip grapple beam. Seriously?
S_E said it is very difficult operation, he not skip Grapple beam his SS run.
But Djgrenola skip grapple beam his low-% run, i think it is humanly impossible, because Silent echo made many mistake and he lose lot energy here.
You said your comments: you get early power bomb expansion. Why? Is it possible skip that and complete 16% run?
My opinion you need only 2 power bomb max and you not need early PB expansion.
ajblot89 are low-% master. USA game range is better than Europe, because i not can buy any NTCA versio games.
I maybe stopped my run, because i think first barrier is too hard and last is impossible for me.  Last barrier took many tries on 4 missile route, i think i never ever beat that one only 2 missile max, because first one zebetite feel impossible and it is easiest all.
Yeah Spidey Widey try next run with SM route. Robot ridely is easy if you have super missile. Boss drop 1-3 SM refill pretty easily and boss is short and lot easier in my opinion.
Zebetite segment is easiest part in the game with SM route.
Super missile route is harder speedrun than 4 missile route. My best time 10% hard: 4-missile route: 50.53 Sm-route: 57.14 Screw attack route: i not never tried, but its must be lot easier than 9% HARD PAL:
Is it ajbolt89 9% PAL HARD run TAS?
9% is not possible with NTCA versio, ajbolt89 home country is USA i think he not have PAL versio, but i not sure.
I have really big trouble destroy first zebetite.
I not know is it humanly possible complete 9% hard mode, because zebetite caused really big trouble. You need 3 refill right time right spot without losing any damage. Impossible in my opinion. I think only way is TAS or maybe second way is if you are EXTREME LUCKY.
I try that couple hours but i not found way pass that zebetite. Screw attack make this easier, because you can destroy rinkas lot faster and bullets not caused any trouble if you have screw attack, but i not have screw attack. i really wonder is it humanly possible, without screw attack and 2 missile max.
How many people here are complete 9% hard mode without emulator and savestate?
I think i not can watch VCL videos. Just now i can watch only youtube.com videos.
I can hear music on my Windows mediaplayer, but i not can watch any videos. Videos screen not appeared. :-s
I try fixed that someday. I not fixed that itself, because data technology is too hard for me. :-s
WAU great. How you can beat game sub 2 hours? Actually it is better than Silent echo any-% single segment time.
Ok it was secret world run and maybe it is faster way than 22% regular low-% run.
I not can watch any video yet because my Windows mediaplayer not working. :|
Why you run 10% hard with Screw attack? 4 missile route is much easier than screw attack route. Super missile route is second easiest route. If you have trouble beat Robot ridley i recommend super missile route, because Robot ridley drop lot SM refills pretty easily and boss is very fast kill, if you have super missiles.
Ok anyway.
I think i really scared two last zebetites and next metroid room. This metroid room are largest and hardest in the game.
I think i not have big trouble beat any bosses. Mother brain is pretty easy and Robot ridley pretty hard/randomly, but i think i not have big trouble beat him.
Good idea avoid double post
1 Copy your post 2 Press delete button and delete your current post 3 reply 4 paste your deleted post and use EDIT button next and answer
Undrestand what i mean? But is it wrong?
I started run 9% (PAL) HARD MODE run
THIS IS SLOWEST PERCENT IN THE GAME. you not can beat game 9% hard mode on Ntca versio.
I not try speedrun, because it is too hard. I think i maybe not never complete that one, because there are nearly impossible zebetite segment only 2 missile max and Tourian metroid segment. Oh goddes i hate that segment, there are one very hard room, before Tourian middle save.
TWO metroid room are complete my time is 31 minutes. It is very slow, but i not try speedrun.
Ok i skip early variasuit, i am maybe crazy or stupid.
I think i not beat that run, but i still want try. This run are 50% harder than 10% hard mode in my opinion. One reason is Metroid and barrier segment and second reason is Robot ridley.
EDIT: Three metroid room are completed. I save my game after everysingle metroid rooms, because i have only 2 missile max and i not try speedrun. Next Metroid room is hardest metroid room in the game.
Hard mode is about 3 minutes slower than normal. Maybe 55.2x is possible. Maybe 54xx but anyway.
Dragondarch SS not never looked as good as Transience any-% segmented.
Dragondarch time is very good only because it is single segment. Segmented skill game is possible beat 55.xx, i think 54.xx is slowest possible time with 100% normal if you have insane skills and patience.
I think Kridly 100% segmented hard looks better than DD 100% SS normal, his time are 58.24, about two minutes slower than Dragondarch SS run.
100% hard mode is much harder and longer than normal. My best 100% hard are 5 minutes slower than my 100% normal run.
I think Kridly made video his new 100% hard mode run and he submit it on sda.. But its not avaible yet.
You are good SS runner. I see you beat M fusion 1%SS 1.06 and your zero mission 9% Easy SS sub 50 it is very good low-% SS. I think easy mode not much different than normal.
I not very good SS runner, my Zero mission 100% SS is 1.00.11 and my 100% 15 segment run are 3 minutes better, but it,s looks 5 minutes better than my SS run. My SS run includes 5 minutes pure mistakes.
Dragondarch is best single segment runner ever in my opinion, he are extreme lucky and enought skillful.
I think your skill game is easily possible beat sub 56 minutes with 100%. My best 57.15 looks good but this not perfect because i use lot saves +stupid energy recharge in Chozodia post stealth.
Same skill and single segment my time is easily sub 56, but i am worst SS runner.
Your best any-% are 28.11 and my best 30.30 you are lot faster player than me. I think i have maybe more skill than you but you are faster.
I wait if you made new 100% normal WR. Maybe 55xx or 54xx.
25 hours are really bad first comletion. My 16 hours is bad enought. I think your first completion must be faster than 25 hours. I think easily sub 20 hours.
Looks my Gorea battle. Actually it is slowest here. Slower than Youshi348 Gorea battle. I really have trouble destroy his hands. Last round took almost 30 minutes and battle total took 57 minutes + second form 15 minutes  +couple deaths. Battle took almost 1.30 hours total.
This game is really difficult speedrun.
My first complete time:
Clear Time: 16.35.03 Gorea battle 1: 57.02 (minutes) Gorea battle 2: 15.43 (minutes)
47 death Hunters & guardians defeated: 72
That game was hard, my opinion hardest game on Prime series. Gorea 1 took almost 1 hours to beat, because that boss was frustrating and long. Gorea part 2 took 12.45 minutes beat.
I think i,ve never speedrun this game, but i not sure yet. Maybe near future.
EDIT: My first completion is slowest first complete time here. Hah hah
Well scan percent are easy avoid, but item percent is really difficult, maybe impossible in my opinion.  I not know how many people in metroid2002 are skipped everysingle energy tank and all possible missile, U-ammo expansions.
I not beaten that game yet, but everysingle bosses took about 5-6 energy tank and multiple tries to beat. But how hard it is without energy tanks and minimal possible ammo.
You need U ammo shots against Slench 2,3 and 4. I know enemys drops couple refills, but it,s must be still very hard, impossible.
Is it possible beat Sylux without energy tanks? Sylux uses Shock coil weapon and you not can dodge his shock coil shots.
I am pretty curious what is lowest percent in the game? Is it possible beat game without energy tanks, minimal missile expansion and only 30 U-ammo max?
My opinion this is hardest game Prime series. Is it possible dodge everysingle enemy attack without dying?
Congrats Zoid. lot nice times.
I not never speedruunig orginal prime, but i think your 100% hard mode records are better than many players any-% records.
Heh Mega-x is second hardest boss speedrun on 1% game (Yakuza is hardest). Boss is easy beat in 4 hits on any-% run but not easy beat in 4 hits on 1% game. Yeah boss barrier took 20 e point per hit and boss itself took 40 energy point per hit. You need lucky and perfect timing, because 99 energy point is too low.
Perfect Mega x battle (4 hits) took over two hours to beat my 1% run.
Congrats Kridly with your run.
Very nice time actually only 1.09 slower than my 100% normal run. I try fixed my windows mediaplayer. Maybe i can watch your video someday.
I know this screw attack method took lot practice first time. I working that about 1 hours my 100% file. Yeah my own screw attack method was different than Master zed method and actually my method is easier, but not any slower in my opinion.
Now this strategy is pretty easy for me, this not caused any problem my 22% game. Only problem is jump time, this is little bit lucky and took practice first time.
EDIT I use this method my 2.16 any-% run. I think i beat Empy 3 in 30 seconds, but this not perfect but still good.
I know there is very good boss strategies. But still this run not interested me, becuase Yakuza second form is pretty randomly and very dangerous.
Nightmare is pretty easy, but only one stupid mistake your game is over. Ridley strategy looks good, but i not never tried that one.
Omega metroid is one easiest boss but this boss kill instant hit and battle nervous so much, because it is last boss.
I think you really need patience, lucky and extremely fusion skills. Dragondarch die about 50 times. You only 11 it is good enought.
I not try that run because i am worst SS runner. Omega metroid scared, nervous me and Yakuza, Nightmare and Ridley took couple dies everysingle times.
Is it possible complete game 101%?
If you get varia suit in Brinstar with your fully power suit
Good job MR.X 1%SS 1.06 it is extremely good job and only 11 tries WAU!
TDK working maybe sub hour 1%SS run. My best 1% segmented run are 57 minutes and my run includes 21 segment i lose over two minutes game time with my save points.
But congrats MR.X. I am sure i never ever try beat 1%ss run, because this run nervous me.
Spidey Widey you are incredible man
His time are 39 sec better than Transience WR time.
Seriously
I hope you bought GBA player and make video (if you can), i really wonder how is possible beat Transience time about 40 seconds, because his run looks perfectly in my opinion.
Hard mode any-% run is not best possible in the SDA, because low-22% hard mode is only 4 minutes slower than current hard any-% run.
If you have same skill as Smilingjack13 you can beat Ekaderif records very easily. I think sub 1.20 is possible.
Congrats spidey widey your WR time. :P
Luke records are finally history. =D>
I think it,s not working, but i not sure because i,ve never tried.
If you found some strategy pass this tentacle, tell it. But i am pretty sure it is impossible find strategy pass it.
Speedbooster not working. I know because i try shinespark trick last time.
Yeah, but there is only one real problem, because one tentacle in Norfair. You not can break or pass that tentacle.
I know game is easily possible beat without powergrip and plasmabeam, but you need some glitch if you want pass this tentacle.
I am good horrizontal bomb jumper, but not as good than ajbolt89.
Actually bomb jump in the powergrip pit are easy palce, this not caused any trouble for me.
I am good bomb jumper. Double bomb jump and horrizontal and diagonal double bomb jump not caused trouble for me.
Only expection is really difficult horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool in Kraid lair. I`ve never complete that trick, because this pool is really long.
:P I improve my 100% time once again. Last segment was 4 seconds faster.
My time is: 57.15
My last segment is very good took only 8.52 minutes
There is only one 7 seconds mistake i missed one shine spark on Chozodia escape (3.54 time left my best time left is 4.01) :x , but anyway   my Robot ridley battle was perfectly and this segment is about 9 minutes long, and i think sub 57.10 is lowest possible time on my save file.
I am satisfied i think i not try imporve my last segment again.
Thanks!
Yeah i know saveless chzodia is better idea, but perfect Chozodia suitless part is hardest segment in the game for me, and perfect Mother brain and Chozo boss are very difficult combination. My Mother brain and barriers took 31 seconds game time to beat. Yeah it is really fast and i not missed hard shine spark after Mother brain.
I save my game middle chozodia because there is one very hard wall jump shortcuts and Chozo boss are very randomly fight. My Chozo boss was very fast i not missed any shot and all diagram appeared very fast. I know this save took 15 seconds but anyway. :|
I am pretty sure Dragondarch SS run is possible improve if you use 6 segment. 6*6=36 and it is enought if you play same skill as me. 1 one before Acid worm (boss is very randomly) 2 before Kraid (very hard beat enought fast) 3 before Tourian (you need lot super missile refill) 4 Tourian second save (good save point) 5 After Power bombs (this took only 6 seconds)
I think it is really difficult operation, your must be faster than Dragondarch and it is really difficults, because this game include randomly enemys and many very difficult spots and trick.
I beat my run in 4 days but yeah perfect run took two weeks or more, but just i am maybe pretty impatient man. 8-)
Sub 57 is easily possible but maybe next time. :P sub 56 is possible but so hard operation, maybe nearly impossible.
Best 100% time: 0.57.19
My run are finally done took 4-days complete this run. it is 1.35 minutes better than my previous.
14 save (15 segment) All save points took 6+6+6+6+6+6+8+6+6+6+12+8+6+8= 96 seconds if i play same skill SS my time was about 55.45 about 30 seconds faster than WR
Yeah this my segmenteds run looks much cooler/faster than 100% current WR time, because Dragondarch time is SS run and i lose 96 seconds game time when i use 15 save.
I use chozodia energy recharge +save because perfect chozodia suitless part and Mother brain is too hard combinaton. This one took 12-15 seconds my game time, but anyway.
Second thing: my last segment are pretty bad, because i skip last save before Robot Ridley because this took over 15 seconds game time. Last segment include couple stupid mistake 1=One geemer took 4-5 seconds my game time 2=I missed couple Super missile against mecharidley battle. 3=I mess up about 5 seconds on escape because i missed one shine spark
I maybe try last segment again morning or someday, i think i can beat game sub 57.10.
sub 57 is easily possible if you less savepoints. I think 55.xx is lowest possible time on segmented, but iam satisfied my run because it is really cool and looks better than Dragondarch single segment run.
It is nearly impossibe beat current 100% normal WR time if you speedrun segmented run, because Dragondarch time is quite perfect SS run. One save point took 6-8 seconds game time, i think only hope beat current 100% WR on segmented if you use 4-5 savepoints max. Dragondarch not make any big mistake, i think this run includes couple 4-5 sec mistake.
I not sure but i think i try 100% normal segmented run next. I hope sub 58 minutes time.
New Super mario bros was very great game, but it is short and easy. Took two days to beat all 100%.
My little brother speedrun this game 29.?? minutes (PAL), i`ve not never speedrunnig this game because mario game speedrun not interested me, only expection is SMW.
My own 10% hard mode run are pretty old run. I copy my strategy ajbolt89 49 minutes video, i use 4 missile route. My opinion 4 missile route is better.
My 10% hard mode is not very good time, because i not use all possible trick, there is one very incredible good part: My Mecha ridley battle & escape was superb, yeah it was no damage segment, just i not lose any energy point here.
I not have any good trick but watch ajbolt89 video there is many good trick. I used same tricks as ajbolt89 old records. Watch ajbolt89 video if you want beat my time. My time is over minutes slower.
Best time 100% Single segment: 1.00.11
AArgh :x  i need 12 seconds yet, but nope it,s not enought i not beat game sub hour. :|
This run include only one very horridous mistake, pulse bombu stop my shine spark about 4 times, this one took about 50-60 seconds my game time. Oh i hate that energy tank, because it is pure lucky, pulse bombu shoot beam very randomly and stop my shine spark everytime. I hate that enemy.
This is good run, but there is still couple stupid mistake. 1 Tourian escape was very poor part 1.21 time left. I falling two times 2 Little mistake in Kraid lair about 10-seconds 3 Acid worm was pretty worst part i use orginal strategy.
Still my run was good, because there was many very good part. I am very tired man, i think i not try sub hour run just now. But maybe someday future.
Ajbolt89 100% hard mode video on sda is really old. He not use mothership shortcuts and his video includes couple mistakes especially second last segment and he get full energy in chozodia suitless samus part.
Next i maybe try improve my 100% normal mode single segment time again, because i not very satisfied my 1.01.03 time because i made one- two minutes pure mistkake in Ridley lair yeah one missile expansion caused lot problem. 0.59.03 or sub 59 is easily possible if everything works next time.
EDIT: Dragondarch 56.11 is really crazy 100% SS run he use all crazy trick and he not made any big mistakes. Yeah this surprised me. But Dragondarch are lucky boy.
Best time 100% single segment: 1.01.03
2.03 minutes better than my previous run SS. 2.09 slower than my segmented run
This is pretty good 100% SS run, but there is 2 very, very bad spot
One missile expansion in Ridley lair took one minutes get, AARGH :x One enrgy tank in Chozodia took 45-50 seconds. Just this is easy energy tank but Pulse bombu shoot me two times and stoped my shine spark.
I made two very big mistakes i think 59-58 is easily possible my SS skill. WR is 56.11
Yeah Transience is first, but Eagle is second best any-% runner in my opinion. Ok anway.
I not know my 100% hard is not best possible because i not trying perfect run, i think sub 1.01 is possible my skill, but yeah 1.02 is still pretty good time, about 3-4 minutes slower than my 100% normal run.
Real WR time is over 3 minutes faster than my own, Kridly have real WR 58.59 it is really good run, i think i`ve never beat his time.
Eagle you have extreme skill on any-% run, sub 30 WAU! very great time one best ever.
i am pretty sure I,ve never beat game sub 30, but congrats to you. You are any-% master.
Thanks.
I think it is very long/hard way beat some WR records, but maybe someday or not. look forward.
Best 100% HARD MODE: 1.02.16
14 seconds better than my previous ending.
I improiving two last segment. My Robot ridley segment was very well about 2-seconds better than ajbolt89 run. My last segment took 2.57 minutes, yeah sub 3 minutes.
Eagle: if your time in tourian is 16.05 i think you can beat game sub 30. My time tourian first save 16.29 and my clear time was 30.30, if you play same skill as me your time is 30.06
My run includes couple mistakes 8 save and +energy recharge in Chozodia.
Good luck.
My best 100% HARD MODE: 1.02.30 :P
AArgh :x  KRIDLY is 100% master, i lose so much his time, but anyway.
This not perfect run, because 100% hard mode is maybe hardest speedrun category in the game. There is couple stupid mistakes and 17 save point (18 segment run).
I skip early varia suit in Brinstar, but i think this not faster way, because all norfair recharges took about 32 seconds game time. I not know how many seconds early varia suit took time.
Maybe morning or someday i try play two last segments again and try improve my time sub 1.02, but just now i am pretty tired, this run took one weeks to beat.
ALSO: i post my all zero mission time now: Any-% normal: 30.30 Any-% normal SS: 33.53 Any-% hard: 35.52 Any-% hard SS: 46.26
Low-% 9% normal: 43.40 Low-% 10% hard: 50.53
100% normal: 58.54 100% normal SS: 1.03.06 100% hard: 1.02.30 100% hard SS: 1.10.56
Silent echo watch your profile. Somebody change your profile.
I really wonder how is possible. Somebody spam your account. About 100 spam post, i think.
Nice job Kridly. :P
Looks good pretty much same as my run only expection is i not use roof bomb trick, and you change one route.
You change couple route, i not know is it faster, after power grip you use same route as ajbolt89 his 10% run, how many seconds this is faster? I use left side route same as Transience.
Very good sub time (16.22 Tourian). My time Tourian first save is 16.29 heh you are 7 seconds faster. My own best records is 30.30. I think it is very long way improve Transience  WR because it is so perfect.
Your must be faster, because 16.22 in Tourian is not enought if you want beat his time Transience time in Tourian is 15.46.
GOOD LUCK! maybe someday you beat his WR time. But first your must be beat my best time.
I know hi restore all his energy sometimes and this failed my speedrun. I use first anni round and second i use screw attack and if i have lucky boss dies. Sometimes i use only screw attack no annibeam.
This is very strange glitch in my opinion. :-s
Ok i see now   Last segment is hardest all, in my opinion. You need stefan van dijike and smilingjack13 skill if you want beat last fight without lose any damage.
Ok good luck.
This is major problem if you play 22% run, because you not have charge and beam combo weapons.
Empy is lot easier on 22% game and especially shorter, because screw attack working very well.
Don,t worry silent echo i am 18 i not have girl friend. Yet.
Extremely good job!
No damge sub 2- hours. Really?
I ask how many tries last boss took? i think no damage last boss in normal mode is harder than 22% hard mode last boss fight.
Master zed method is really difficult, i try thats your method multiple times. So hard i say.
My own method is so much easier, i think one screw attack +anni beam round make this boss lot easier to beat. i use screw attack under him when Emperor ing make jump attack. This took very randomly more energy his energy metter (about 25- 85%)
Perfect screw attack hits +anni beam round is as fast or faster than Master zed method.
Working it? If you use power bomb under him. heh it is news to me.
This is pretty old thing
I found this strategy long time ago
I use that strategy my 22% run, and my last segment was 6-7 minutes faster than djgrenola 20% run.
My style is different, but strategy is same as you.
Thanks!
i understand 1% segmented is really big operation and 1%SS is more longer. But good luck.
I not sure yet, but i think i started next 100% segmented or any-% segmented. If i started next 100% segmented i beat my current records very easily, because 1.22 is pretty worst 100% time (i think i try 1.18 or less). But i hate start long speedrun operation after my 1% segmented, because this run was pure hell.
My Best Time: single segment: 0.56
-WAU very great SS run, no save no deaths -Only two minutes slower than my best segmented & 4 minutes faster than my previous SS run.
-I get 15% item (7et, 50m, 10pb) -I have extremely much lucky all eye doors (pretty much same as Kridly) -Only really worst part on my run are Serris, this boss took 4 hits AARGH! Boss is possible beat 2 hits -There is couple very good part, i think Archanus both security robots, Big core X and Yakuza. -i missed about 2-3 speedtrick and there is couple stupid mistake, but anyway, this my best SS run is still very great, in my opinion
-I lose only 5 minutes Kridly WR SS run.
There is video NO space jump any-%
I hope this help you little bit. Watch segment 2 or 3.
I never completed your method (i try about 10-15 times). My opinion Transience method is piece of cake, only problem is last bomb jump onto the ledge this took about 1-10 tries. But anyway.
Just i understand.
but last bomb jump onto the ledge is only problem on SS run.
My opinion Transience method is easiest all, but still it is extremely big risk in SS run.
Using the power grip to HANG ON the 2 x 2 blocks ( The easiest method, which I use![/quote]
Thanks I not sure working thats your method. Only problem is last jump on the ledge. But i try.
What you mean three method? My opinion there are only two method.
1 Transience normal method 2 Ajbolt89 Horrizontal bomb jump (hardest trick in the game)
I use same method as Transience.
Extra shine before rio room not take too much time (about 4-5 sec), but i understand, thats your second point. Yeah i missed missile expansion in the room with the 4 morph ball launcher. I not know how much this took time, if you get this expansion your second visit, but i think, too much. :|
I could do it about 25-30% of the time    and it is too bad, if  i try that trick my next SS run.
Thats right, i think horrizontal bomb jump took time, but i think its took about 10-12 seconds and acid worm about 40 sec or more, because this fight took lot time on hard mode i not meaning normal, because i am pretty sure thats my strategy not working normal mode.
Before acid worm you lose little bit time, because you not have power grip and diagonal bomb jump took little bit time, about 5 sec, i think.
I am pretty sure my new route is little bit faster than current WR route, but there is still one bad point, because i am pretty sure you not can skip early varia suit. you have only 249 energy point max on Norfair and i not know is it enought, because hot air drain your energy very fast.
Your must be skip two energy tanks 1 one before acid worm 2 second ET inside Kraidlair, before norfair. Because your must be active zip line, if you want get that energy tank. Oh sorry i forget mention this energy tank is possible get without zip lines, but i think this took about 5-8 seconds, too much time.
Only hope if you kill most enemies on norfair and get enought energy refills & enought fast. This took lucky but i think it is possible.
I`ve never played orginal Metroid prime on low.%  but i hate orginal prime last fight so much, because this fight is long and irritating.
Emperor ing is my favorite fight, but it is pretty hard (only 22% game) but not too hard. Empy battle is very easy on any-% game.
I think Metroid prime is harder than Empy.
I not know working my idea, when i think is it possible beat 100% hard mode faster possible route.
-Use same route as WR run, but change one route on Kraid lair -Skip Acid worm and make horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool, this is hard, but possible trick -Don,t active zip line your first visit in Kraid lair
-Kill acid worm and active zip line your second visit on Kraid lair (after suit boss and chozodia) -Acid worm is possible beat much faster, because you have multiple super missile if you kill that fight your second visit. If you kill that fight your first visit, you not have any super missile, and this fight took lot time to beat. - Collect all important missile expansions and energy tank, your second visit on Kraid lair.
- I think this my idea working only 100% hard mode, because 100% normal mode acid worm not take too much time to beat.
Understand? my english are suck ass.
I like when i watch Transience SS run first time.
Just Transience have extremely lucky.
1 He make Acid worm skip   (this trick are extreme lucky) 2 He have extrme lucky Tourian (super missile refills drop and after Metroid segments he have over 40 missile refill) 3 Chozodia post stealth is huge risk on SS run without energy recahrge. 4 Enemys move very randomly places (Norfair ripper wall jump, this trick took lucky) 5 This run not includes any big and stupid mistake. Just Transiece have extreme lucky
Just that run looks million times better than my own SS run. If somebody try really improve Transience run i think only way beat his time is Mother brain (about 15 sec here). This fight is not best possible, but still pretty good fight.
But good luck, if you really want beat his run.
I tried that trick my gba, but not working.
I think it is sure possible skip acid worm without TAS run. I think only hope skip acid worm without power grip is: If you make horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool. This trick is damn hard i think it is nearly impossible, but ajbolt make this trick his run and he not have powergrip.
I use lot time with my computer/internet, i think about 10 hours, everysingle day or sometimes less than 10 hours if i play Nintendo.
sometimes I play my Nintendo or my Gba multiple hours and sometimes i spend lot time with my computer and sometimes i watch tv, yeah i am very lazy man. Trust me?
I think Yakuza second form attack very randomly, yeah Ridley is hard, but Dragon darch found pretty good strategy beat this fight pretty safety
1%SS run in SDA looks horrible, but i understand because 1% SS is insanely difficult speedrun. I think it is virtually impossible to beat, but Dragon darch are master, one best speedrun ever, i think.
Many boss took lot lucky on 1%SS run, Yakuza, Nightmare, Ridley and of course Omega metroid.
Yeah i think his time is easily possible beat with segmented run, but SS looks, sounds crazy.  Good luck.
Ok sorry my english!
Luke SS WR run is really fast, i think it is perfect SS run, only bad part his run is Mother brain battle because this fight looks horrible.
My best SS without acid worm skip is 33.53 this run looks horrible beause i make many stupid mistake. I not never use Acid worm skip my SS run. Acid worm skip is really hard trick (lucky i think) with SS run.
But Good luck!
Good luck Smokey WR is really good on Super metroid, but i think you have wrong topic, just now, because this is Zero mission topic.
But anyway if you beat Smokey time on Super metroid you are master.
DARK KNIGHT! I think if you less your save you need really much lucky and patience because most segments took lot time to beat. I hate sub programs so much. I save 20 times because i really hate sub programs. Ok i know you are Metroid fusion master, i know you beat my time easily, but i think if you beat 1% run sub 55 it is really good/crazy run.
Make you video or not? If you make video i hope i see this video someday.
PJ MAN! Good luck!
Dont worry 59 is really good any-% time
Thanks!   yeah my 1% run looks insane, i think my new low-% run looks better than my current any-% (0.54) because this one is only three minutes slower.
I wait when Dark knight try beat my time, but i think it is long operation.
GOOD LUCK DARK KNIGHT!
If you beat my time you are Metroid fusion master.
Ok i belive you this trick is really difficult because i try many times but not working.
SORRY OFF TOPIC! I not know, how many differece PAL versio includes, but many PAL-NTCA game inculde little bit difference. Zero mission is impossible beat 9% hard in NTCA versio and scan dash not working orginal prime with PAL- versio, yeah many games includes little bit versio difference. Understand?
YEAH! :P
My long operation is finally over. All 21 segment are finally completed and my time is 57 minutes, yeah this not as good as Wassup dawgs run, but yeah my run looks same as Nate, because i use same tricks here.
sub 57 is easily possible with Pal versio, i think sub 56 is possible, but i am pretty sure i,ve never going improve my current 1% records, because this run is insanely difficult speedrun
Normal segment took two hours to beat, but good Robot spider battle took two days
My sub times Sector 5 before PB: 0-3? Main deck before Yakuza: 0.34 (very low) 0-5 sec over Sector 2 save before Nettori: 0.37 (very high) 55-59 sec over Sector 5 before Nightmare: 0.41 Sector 4 under water: 0.45 sector 6 before robot: 0.48 Metroid laboratorion: 0.50 Sector 1 before Ridley: 0.51 Maindeck before last boss: 0.54 CLEAR TIME: 0.57
I think Double core-X shots is insanely difficult trick, i not find good strategy make this trick, ok my thumb are maybe too slow or this trick not working PAL versio.
My 1% best time is: 0.57 (very high 57 about 55 sec over)
-i use 20 save point -about two minutes better than my previous -this run looks insane, about same as Nate any-% run, but couple boos took lot time to beat in 1% run. -i not use crazy tricks, because i not as good player as Wassup dawgs -i working my run many days (about 1-2 weeks)
- i skip all energy recharges - Perfect Serris battle - I beat big core-X in four hits - i find fast strategy beat Nettori - My Nightmare battle looks good - My security robot battles looks same as Nate any-% run, i think my security robot 2 looks better than nate run - Really good run, but still my run includes several little mistakes - Yakuza aka spider first form looks horrible i think Yakuza is possible beat 20-30 second faster but this segment took long time to beat. - couple eye doors shot one beam - of course 56 is possible with my skills, but i am very satisfied and tired just now.
This is Nate video. No sequence break run 100% I not know where i find any-% no sequence break run, but i hope this help you little bit.
:-s  Ok thanks
If you mean savepoint took only about 1.30 seconds. Zero mission save took 6 seconds, fusion save is over 4 seconds faster than zero mission save
How many seconds are 62 frames?
How many seconds savepoint took time?
I know Zero mission savepoint took 6 seconds game time, but how many second i lose game time Fusion when i save my game. ( This game not include enought accurate clock)
This questions sounds very stupid but it is important question because, i speedrun this game just now. i hope somebody good speedrunner answer with me possible soon.
Segment 8 & 9 finally completed time after CORE-X battle is 0.21
Segment 8 took huge amount time (about 2 hours or more), because Big core x was really hard beat fast in 1% game. Boss was pure lucky because sometimes boss took 20 energy point sometimes 40 energy point my energy, and i have only 99 energy point max, i died about 1000 times and eyedoor shot beam about 85% all my tries :x . Ok this segment was pretty well, i beat boss in 4 charge hits but i make little mistake because eye door before boss shot one beam (about 5 sec).   But anyway 1% game is huge amount harder than any-% run, because i not have enought energy and missiles, and because i have low energy Big core x battle was pure hell. Boss not cause any problem to beat in any-% run.
Segment 9 Completet my time sector 5 save is 0.23 +15-20 second over (about 45 second faster than my previous records).
This segment was pretty easy, but pure lucky because enemys moves very randomly, i have lucky and this segments looks good, ok here is couple little mistake, but anyway.
Just now i hate this game so much, i,ve never try 1% game again if i someday beat this run. My current time records is insanely good, it is really hard operation beat that time.
TO BE CONTINUED   Heh! :P
EDIT: Segment 10 is completed My time before sector 3 is 0.25 +45 sec over it is about same as Nate any-% run, but my run is 1% heh!
Segment 10 not caused big problem, but only big problem was: because i need picked up enought energy and couple missiles, before sector 3. You need enought missiles and energy here.
Yeah i try skip everysingle energy recahrges my run and it is hard and frustrating in my opinion.
EDIT 2: Segment 11 finally completed, my time before Habitation deck segment is 0.28 +50 sec over it is same as Nate any-% run  It is over minutes better than my previous 1% run and about 10 seconds better than my current any-% run (0.54).
Self destruct segment took 2 hours to beat., yeah it was really hard. 4.20 time left, i think  4.23 is lowest time with PAL versio, but i not make any mistake here.
Segment 6 is complete (maybe) time before sector 6 is: 0.18
I not know it is enought good i maybe try beat this segment again, and improve little bit my time because there is couple stupid mistake. Ok i make same speedtricks as Nate 0.53 run, but Security robot is possible beat about 5-8 second faster, but it is hard because i have 15 missile max. I get stupid mistake after boss because one enemy hit me (2-4 sec)
Ok that segment was really diifficult, because security robot is really hard, and many speedtrick took lot time especially last one before boss. I think this segment is possible beat 10 second faster, but AARGH! i working that segment about 3 hours or more.
EDIT I improiving segment 6 about 5-6 seconds Ok i missing one speedtrick (5-sec) but security robot are faster now i think it is maybe little bit more faster than Nate 0.53 run, but still about 4-5 seconds slower than WR run. Ok this not best possible segment, but i am pretty satisfied now.
EDIT 2 Segment 7 complete my time before Puff is 0.20 +about 25-30 second over, i think.
This segment looks perfects, but i lose little bit time because i have 17 energy point and SA-X power bomb took 20 energy point my energy, i lose little bit time because when PB explosive i must be dodge this explosive, but not worry this took about 2 seconds my time.
Next segment is REALLY HARD, BECAUSE I HATE EYE DOOR & BIG CORE-X BATTLE SO SO MUCH!!   Especially because my run is 1% run.
This is news for me.
I try this trick someday, when i next time play Super Metroid.
Metroid prime 2: if you get light suit before dark suit you have  still light suit. Heh that was fun thing. But ok i belive you it,s not working super metroids.
Yeah i think it is possible, if you get gravity suit before varia suit.
It is hard but not impossible operation.
1 Going norfair take ice beam 2 going Brinstar and get early power bomb 3 going wrecked ship and beat Phantom 4 Picked up gravity suit next
I think you have gravity suit now, but i not tried that.
GREAT! Wassup dawgs your 1% time is 50-51 I think if you play same skill your any-% run again your time is 48 maybe?
Segment 2 complete 0.07 sector 2 savepoint it is little bit more faster than my 59 run (i think about 15 sec) and my best time is about 0.59+ 25-35 second over
Yeah sector 1 was really frustrating segment, here many place took manipulate lucky. This sector look pretty good in my opinion, only bad part was eye door because he/she shot two beams. Ok this segment took about 2 hours complete.
EDIT 1 Segment 3 & 4 complete, my time before serris: 0.13  i think It is about 30-40 second faster than my previous run. Segment 4 took really long time to beat i think about 3 hour, because eye tube boss attack very rarery attack and Sector 4 is really hard beat enought fast in 1% game because enemys took about 50 energy point per: hit.
I really wonder how is possible beat 1% game sub 52 or sub 51. :-s  I not use hard double shot trick core-x battle because my thumb are too slow . It is maybe possible but it is too hard trick for me.
EDIT 2 Segment 5 is complete my time sector 3 first save point is 0.16 I not know it is enought good, because it is same as my last run. I kill serris in two hit i make all important shine spark, but here is still couple stupid mistake, because this segment was hard, because many place took much lucky.
I think it is possible beat 1% game sub 57 minutes, because 1% game is not much slower than any-% run, but it is much harder.
I watch couple segment dragonfangs TAS run, and he use many cool trick, i not sure is it humanly possible shot 2-missile core-x battle, regular gba console, because i not never tried this trick.
WR time any-% run is 50-minutes, yeah but 1% run couple part took lot amount time:
1 Yakuza second form took longer in 1% game because i think your must be dodge his attack. 2 Plant boss took longer because you have 15 missile max 3 Nightmare took lot time.
My current records in last year is 59 minutes, i lose times, because i missed couple speedtrick. couple eye-X took extra round. i use only one energy recharge.
What is WR time in 1% game segmented run? How many people here is trying beat 1% segmented run?
I maybe try improve my 59 and i maybe try beat game sub 57, minutes. 55-minutes is maybe lowest time, but i think it is virtually impossible time.
EDIT I started run this game i try beat game sub 57, but i am satisfied if i beat game sub 59.
SEGMENT 1 DONE 0.03 Sector 1 save point Yeah i hate first segment, because here is lot subprogram and first subprograms is really long. Eye door shot one beam, and Boss is irritating, he make two ball attack, yeah this took time but this is 1% game and i have 10 missile max.
Actually if you speedrun any-% run you not need use boost ball skip trick. This trick is only 22% game trick and i not know how hard it is because i not never find easy way make early artifact after flaaghra trick.
First time in my live i see, somebody make BSJ instant unmorph trick in orginal prime.
good work.
Actually Fusion is easiest Metroid game speed running, because this game not include lot trick and sequence breaks. Bosses are hard part and eye doors frustrated little bit and especially i hate long sub programsbefore next sector. Longest sub program is first sub program second longest is before SA-X. I mean it is very frustrating try beat perfect segment because every time when you take mistake your must be watch subprograms again. AARGH!
Zero mission is actually easy beat sub 35, but sub 30 is really good time, i think only Gamecube04 and Transience beat game sub 30. My time is about same as ajbolt any-% time.
I not never speedrun orginal prime because one early artifact after flaaghra frustrated me so much. This is one hardest trick in the 3d metroid history in my opinion.
Echoes trick are easier than orginal prime, but bosses are lot harder in echoes.
When i beat Metroid prime first time i not use normal lock system here.
Yeah! game is much harder beat without lock. Especially last fight first form.
I not see any trouble get very early power bombs before ice beam. Only hard part is long vertical corridor, but kill every single rippers and if you are enought skillful and you can do single wall jump i think this not too hard.
But i think Phantoom is possible beat before kraid. I think it is very hard trick, because you need make hard hoprizontal bomb jump before boss and you have very weak weapons (only power beam and charge) +couple super missiles. I think it is possible but you need much skill.
Is it possible get gravity suit before varia suit? I not sure but i think it is possible.
I not never get early varia suit 100% normal mode run, but my run is hard mode 100% SS, i think Norfair is huge risk without early varia suit, because you have very low-energy here and hot air eat your energy very fast. Only one mistake your game is over.
My time 100% hard mode single segment: 1.10.56
-My first 100% hard mode SS- run -No save, no deaths. -Pretty good run, but i make couple very horrible mistake.
My mistakes:
- Early varia suit took about 25-sec or more. - i lose about 45-sec Kraid lair diagonal bomb jump - Kraid battle looks horrible. I lose about 45-sec here. - One room in ridley lair took about 20-sec - Super missile refill in tourian (before Mother brain) took about 1-minutes, because i am unlucky man. - Last energy tank in Chozodia took about 30-sec - Many little mistake
I am satisfied because 100% hard mode SS run is very difficult SS- speed run.
No bad!
You are good player in my opinion.
If you want beat game fastest possible route you beat game much faster. 100% normal is easily possible beat sub 1.10 if you choose fastest possible route.
NO! i think.
What you mean? After Annhilator beam skip you not need anhilator beams, because sonic boom is optional item in the game. Yeah you not need Anni beam in my opinion.
Empy battle is easy beat if you use screw attack strategy for him.
i not understand why you not can see this video. I click yes i see this video.
have you windows media player MR.X?
Thanks!
Good luck 9% normal SS is really hard and scareless. I not know, but i think if you beat 9%ss normal you are only one here metroid2002. Transience die chozodia escape and i die tourian escape.
Congrats, i not understand how this is possible because that video looks so crazy/cool.
I think it is coolest secret world ever.
EDIT: Is it new trick?
My new single segment normal mode time is
33.53 (without acid worm skip)
- 1.03 minutes better than my previous SS-run - 3.23 minutes slower than my segmented-run
This run looks horrible because i make many mistake here. I lose much time:
1 I not skip acid worm (1-2 minutes) 2 Couple mistake with acid worm battle (5-7 sec) 3 I blow one acid pool speed booster trick in kraid lair (7-8 sec) 4 I blow Mother brain shinespark (4-sec) 4 I blow one easy shortcuts in suitless samus part chzodia (10 sec) 5 I not use light room shortcuts in suitless samus part, because this trick is hard and big risk on SS run (5-7 sec) 6 I miss one-two shots in Chozo guradian 5-10 (sec) 7 I get 8 super missile max because Robot ridley scared me 8 Couple little mistake (? sec)
YEah sub 33 is easily possible without Acid worm skip. Maybe next time
I don,t like SS runs because single segments runs nervous me.
i hate last speed booster shortcuts on chozodia escape. If i failed this trick i lose about 20 seconds here. Chozodia suitless samus part is second irritating place and of course Kraid lair shortcuts, but i not never use this trick my SS runs. My 34.56 is pretty good SS run, because i not make big mistake here. My 100% SS run  surprised me because it is really good it,s Not looking same than Dragondarch run, but it is still very good.
Now i get little break, because i am pretty tired speedrun perfects segmented runs just now. Next i try improve maybe my Any-% SS run but i not sure yet.
My opinion  is not very good idea skip many save points, because it is more harder complete long good segment than short perfect segment. Ok my new sub 31 run include definitely too much save points, but i working everysingle segment about 1-3 hours, because i try make perfects segments. My single segment time is 34.56 but i lose about 2 minutes when i not skip Acid worm.
My opinion PAL versio is couple seconds slower than NTCA versio(it`s must be little bit slower), i notice it when i watch ajbolt89 any-% normal mode video. Ajbolt last segment is about 17 seconds faster than me, i think my last segment is pretty perfectly, but still i lose about 20 seconds here everysingle times. I know ajbolt89 last segment is really fast (faster than me and actually it is 2-seconds faster than Transiece WR run), but i still lose too much time here.
But i think 30.30 is really good run, it is very hard improve, because i use everysingle speedtrick/everysingle shortcuts, but i save my game too much.
Great route Piccolo cube. i think it is just same than my 2.16 run.
Practice. This trick is little bit lucky.
Oh sorry. i see but too late.
PICCOLO CUBE GOOD JOB, but i ask couple questions:
What route you use?
How many sequence breaks you use your run?
MR.X post stealth segment is same thing than suitless samus part. Understand?
My new record any-% normal 0.30.30 Really good run
-8 save point 9-segment (i lose 1.02 minutes my save point, if i play this game same skill and single segment my time is 29.28. This run looks 30 seconds better than Transience SS run. Normal save took 6 seconds and Chozodia save took 12 seconds.
-26% item same as Transience
My sub times save 1 After power grip norfair: 5.56 save 2 Before Giant slug norfair: 7.24 save 3 Before Ridley ridley lair: 9.32 save 4 Kraid lair first save: 13.17 save 5 Tourian first save: 16.29 save 6 Tourian last save: 18.00 save 7 Chozodia first save: 20.01 save 8 Chozodia after chozo boss same save as WR run: 25.56 CLEAR TIME: 30.30
I use every single speedtrick my new run.
I save my game Chozodia first save point 20.01. I know this is uncesarry save point but perfect Mother brain battle +fast super missile refill took about 2 hours and post stealth segment are really difficult beat without mistake. i lose about 12 second when i use this save point but anyway.
My Mother brain segment is still very good, battle look pretty much same than Transience run (only about 4-5 seconds slower) i not mess up Shine spark and i not get hit map computer.
Next segment is Chozodia post stealth. Sub 30 is impossible just now but sub 31 is possible yet.
Thanks. 18.00 it is good. only hope beat game sub 30 minutes, but i´m sure i never beat game sub 30, because Transience is really good player and his two last segments looks really fast.
CONGRATS MR.X
I finally beat Tourian segment my any-% run. This segment took about 3, hours. Super missile refill appear very rarery.
My time before Mother brain is 18.00 (58 seconds slower than Transience WR run) i have 50/50 m 4/4 sm and full energy. Next segment are really hard and long. this segment includes lot hard part, maybe hardest segment in any-% run.
1 Barriers, Mother brain 2 Mother brain shine spark 3 Perfect stealth segment (without energy recharge) 4 Chozo boss (I hate this fight so much)
Acid worm skip is not too hard, but it is frustrating because i try make perfect segment. i need make this trick many times because i missed my segment every time after acid worm skip. This segment frustrating because acid worm skip took about 1-15 tries or more.
My single segment record is 34.56, but i never make acid worm skip my single segment run, because this trick is 65% pure lucky, and insanely big risk in single segment run.
I try maybe someday improve my 9% run sub 43, but i think this is really difficult operation. Only medicore part my run is Kraid lair segment and Mother brain, but all segments looks nearly perfects. This is really big operation, because 43.40 is really good time. sub 43 is easily possible maybe sub 42, but i think 41xx is lowest time on 9% game
I hope lucky if you try easy 9% single segment. I understand this is frustrating operation.
Excelent job MR.X your 10% hard mode time is only 8 minutes slover than my 10% best hard mode run. GOOD! i think i never try improve my time sub 50, because Tourian is really frustrating.
I started working any-% normal mode run yesterday. I try beat game sub 31 minutes. I`m pretty sure i never beat game sub 30 minutes because i use too much savepoint. My time kraid lair first save: 13.17. Kraid lair segment is really frustrating in any-% run, because i hate acid worm skip trick very much.
CONGRATS MR.X
Nice time :P  :P  :P
But i`m very surprised, because your time chozodia first save is 33.01, it is very good (i think, your Mother brain battle is faster than me), but you lose lot time in Chozodia. About 3-minutes.
I hope luck if you try 10% hard mode run. Only couple peoples here metroid2002 is complete 10% hard mode myself includes.
My Chozodia first save is 30.07 i think your time is only 2.56 slower than my best. I think you beat game easily sub 48. maybe sub 47. I hope luck, because my Robot ridley segment are really fast Before Robot ridley: 39.06 Clear time 43.40.
It is really fast, only 13 seconds slower than me. What is your time just now?
Yeah but save your game after two zebetites and use second save point after third zebetite and last savepoint when you are destroyed all zebetites.
You need lucky.
My own zebetite segments took 2.02, but i`m beat all zebetites less than 2 minutes. (all zebetite destroyed and 5-missile 99 e-point max my savepoint before Mother brain.
En huomannutakaan että tänne on taas tullut yksi suomalainen, no tervetuloa. :P
En tiedä haittaako tuo sääntö rajoitus tässä tapauksessa, sillä kyllähän foorumi tilaa menee, jos joutuisi kuukauden välein luomaan aina uuden suomi ketjun tänne.
Jos metroidit kiinostaa myös sinua niin tuonne suomi metroidiinkin voi rekata jos et ole vielä rekannut
Early sun trick looks very cool, but i not know is it good idea with speedrun. This trick took lot time, about one minutes or more.
Yeah it is difficult first time, but only very hard segment in 10% hard mode is Tourian, this frustrated me very much my 50.53 run, because i not have varia suit and i`m speedrun this.
But if you not speedrun 10% hard mode i not see any trouble beat Tourian if you get early varia suit and save your game after every single metroid room.
My zebetite segment took only two minutes my 9% normal run, this is really fast aka perfect.
36.17 is good time in chozodia first save point, but if you lose 4-minutes from zebetites, i think it is too much, if you try beat my time. My time hard mode 10% run chozodia first save point is 36.56 (i lose much time Tourian first metroid part, because this part is very long and damn hard in hard mode about 90% harder than normal mode).
If you try improve your current run, not never get two energy refill from metroids, because you lose easily 30-40 seconds. I know it is really frustrating and took lot restart (2-3 hours for me)
Are you beat 10% hard mode ever? This is about 65% harder than normal, but if you are skillfull player i not see, any trouble beat this run
My Mother brain segment took 3.56 minutes, i not know how many minutes i lose my time Mother brain battle
Save point before Mother brain 26.12 first save point Chozodia: 30.07 My Tourian escape 1.14 seconds left (fastes escape ever for me) i not get hit map computers
My Chozodia stealth segment is pretty nice, because i not have big trouble made single wall jump. Only exception is my 9%SS tourian escape. If you want couple trick beat 9% game faster:
1 Beat barriers 1 missile refill strategy, this is much easier than 2. missile refills aka 10% hard mode strategy
2: try get 2 missile refills per- metroid, this make Tourian metroid segments much faster beat. But this took lot time, i mess up about 2 missile refills 1-2. metroids.
3 Last escape is hard beat if you don,t kill all pirates, but this strategy is much faster than normal strategy. Watch ajbolt89 video, pretty perfect last escape.
Ok i not calling you Guy, if you don,t like this name.
My opinion your 52.37 is very good run because yesterday your time is 1.16. Hey guy i`m pretty sure someday you beat my 9% normal time.
My 43.40 is excelent run, but not impossible to beat, if you have much skill.
1 i save my game 16 times (about 1.30 minutes) 2 Kraid segment is possible beat about 10-12 second faster 3 Tourian segment is really good, but couple mistake is here.
I think lowest possible time is normal 9% game is 41.xx, but you need really much lucky and perfect segments.
I understand guy, you are too nervous and Black pirates kill you.
I`m too nervous tourian escape my 9% normal SS run and my time end, because wall jump cause too much trouble because my hands are too nervous. This is maybe stupid mistake ever for me. Tourian escape is one easiest part in the low-% run and i blow it my 9% SS-run
Not working guy.
Tentacle not disappear if you get only Unknow item, but you don,t get power grip.
Not bad guy. Good accomplishment, but you die Black pirates battle aargh, bad lucky  , :(
But i think normal mode is at least 50% harder to beat than easy. I`ve not never tried 9% easy mode, because i`m play everytime normal or hard mode.
You not can break tentacle. Tentacle disappear when you get power grip.
This not possible, because you not can beat norfair without power grip.
If you try beat normal mode sub 50- hopefully you have much skill and patience, because most bosses took lot restarting if you try get fast missile refills, i know i restart Ridley, Kraid, Mother brain and Mecha ridley battles many times when i beat my normal low-% run sub 44 minutes. Same route i`m use my hard 10% run, but this run includes several mistake, especially Tourian first metroid segment.
Mother brain segment took only 3.56 minutes in my best 9% normal run, but i think 4.30 minutes is very good boss segment.
Perfect Tourian is really difficult and took much lucky especially hard mode 10% run. This segment took couple hours for me.
But if you really wants beat normal 9% run sub 50 i think this is good challenge. I try someday maybe 9% normal single segment run again, my last run i died Tourian escape, and this run frustrated me.
I hope this help you little bit, this includes couple trick with triple bsj.
But if this not help you, Silent echo can help you better.
Don,t worry your english are much better than my english.
My opinion this not very slow, if this is your first low-% run. Only minutes slower than my first 9% time. If you try improve your low-% time sub hour, maybe sub 50, you must be restart your game many times.
My best/currently 9% & 10% records took multiple days, because i restart my game many, many, many times.
Yeah it is possible if somebody here find more speedtrick or better route beat Kip time.
Awesome silent echo!
I think it is better than my any-% normal time after Dark Samus.
My time before Quadraxis any-% normal is 1.36, but you play 100% hard , :-s
I really hope i see your video possible soon.
I`m sure sub hour is not possible. I watch Kip video and this video looks perfect.
Only bad part his run are Metroid prime form 1 last chamber. I think lowest possible time in the game is 1.03, i think 1.02 is not possible, if you don,t found more speedtricks.
Oh thanks Ajbolt89!
I practice this trick, if i try someday speedrun 100% run again.
I think midair unmorph jump is slower make with PAL-versio.
I think norfair supermissile room shortcuts not working PAL-versio but i not sure this. (Watch: segment 5 -ajbolt89 100% hard video) he jump and put bomb upper roof and roof explode.
I practice this trick long time, but i not find possible way make that trick. i`m skillful player with metroid zero mission, but i`m pretty sure this trick is not possible make PAL versio, i think europa versio move little bit more slower than Ntca versio.
Thanks Chanoire, your add an attachment idea help me little bit, but i have further big problem, because i not can paste my picture.
My picture situated my own file, but i not can open my file when i push add attachment button yeah my file open but i not can choose my pictures here.
Because my picture located now, inside microsoft word, i not sure how big my file is. I write my file comments box next: 610*480 and 136 kt. and i push add attachemnt button again. Next i submit my post, but picture not appeared. :-s
I not understand why i don,t can post pictures?
I take photograph my Metroid fusion 1% 0.59 run (this is my old run, but i bought gba player and i play last segment again, and i take photograph my clear time (This is maybe WR time in 1% game), but i not can post this picture. Copy, paste not working why?
This is stupid question because i`m stupid man, but i hope somebody help me
Silent echo any-% run looks just perfectly, i`m ptretty sure anyboby here never beat his time. But you are right, it is possible beat game sub 1.42-1.41 (maybe sub 1.40). Empy 3 battle instant kill strategy working very rarely (two time in my life), yeah it is possible but it is still very hard. He make 1-minutes pure mistake grapple beam skip segment, but my opinion this segment is one coolest segment his run, because garpple skip is damn hard trick in the game.
Ok possible improve his time 1-2 minutes grapple skip segment 1-2 minutes empy 3 Maybe about 3 minutes possible improve his time.
I not try improve his run because my recors is 2.16 and my opinion this is pretty good time, but if somebody here try beat Silent echos perfect any-% run sub 1.43 i hope much lucky and patience
Grapple guardian looks very nice. Just i don,t understand how this is possible, you not scan him eye and second form you kill this form you don,t shot light beam charge his ass you shoot light beam charge his eye and boss dies. NICE!
Boost guradian i think it,s must be very hard strategy because i not never beat him in one round. I kill him in two round my any-% run.
NICE SEGMENT KRIDLY!
What your time is after your save your segment? My time 100% normal before Acid worm is 8.06 and before kraid 11.28. my clear time is 58.54 but i play my run normal mode and i know hard mode took several minutes longer to beat than normal mode.
How many time you save your game? i save my 100% run 14 times, i think it is too much, but it is very frustrating if you save game less than 14 times.
My runs now. not much different than my previous post
ANY-% Super metroid: 0.59 Metroid fusion: 0.54 Metroid zero mission: 0.31 Metroid prime 2 echoes: 2.16
LOW-% Metroid fusion: 0.59 (1% item) Metroid zero mission: 0.43 (9% item) Metroid prime 2 echoes 5.50 (22% item)
100% Metroid fusion: 1.22 Metroid zero mission 0.58
Thanks your strategy Silent echo. i hope your trick working with me, my next run i need improve 17-minutes yet if i try beat game sub 2-hours.
My route are little bit more slower than your single segment route, because i get spider ball before screw attack.
My time hard mode any-%: 2.59
over 40-minutes slower than my normal run. i use pretty much same route, but i don,t skip dark suit because boost guardian are damn hard in hard mode without dark suit.
My opinion this is worst run, but hard mode is more difficult speedrun than normal mode
65-missile, 5 energy tank 200-b-ammo 3-pb
My new record any-% normal: 2.16
it is 25-minutes better than my previous. This run looks much cooler than my previous run. i use pretty much same route than my previous rut but couple route change now
1: im skip dark suit 2: im get only 3/3 power bomb
all bosses looks much faster than my 2.41 run
i am very satisfied my new run because i not use WR route
YEah all echoes trick are very hard first time, but im learn many trick in one week. Im learn make pretty perfect roll jump and  single bsj is very easy just now. i learn make underwater dash (this cause problem every time, but anyway i can du this trick, but underwater dash segment took multiple hours my speedrun. I can du make pretty perfect abadoned base ghetto, im learn this trick yesterday.
Boost guardian trick is different, i try use just same strategy as silent echo, but boss rise up, in ground why? I not shot full blast charge his eye.
YEah im finally can du abadoned base ghetto pretty perfectly, im skip dark suit my next/future run.
But im ask couple question.
1: How im beat Boost guardian in one round? im watch Silent echo video but strategy not working for me why?.
2: Im have further trouble make double bsj, i not need help triple bsj because i not need this trick my next run and single bsj is easy trick for me, but how i can du double bsj? im practice this trick in dark forgoten bridge but this not working. I know Rekhamheos advice me, but strategy not working why?
:D My time any-% normal 2.41
39% item: 3-et 60-m 150-beam ammo 4-pb
I know Silent echo laugh my run but i am still very satisfied my run because im working this run over weeks.
I don,t use WR route, my route looks pretty much same than Radix old route, but i don,t skip dark suit and i don,t use jump guardian trick.
I use lot trick 1:im skip Alpha blog 2:im get seeker launcher after Chykka 3:I skip Caretaker class drone 4:im skip ing hive keys 5:im skip torvus and agon energy 6:im use both underwater dash (this segment took 4-hours and im missed one jump one time) 7: im use great bridge shortcuts
im save my run over 40-45 times really bad but im have much trouble make sequence breaks without dying
I try improve this run someday sub 2.30, but just now i am very tired man speedrun Metroid prime 2 echoes.
Tom votava time orginal metroid in twin galaxie are about 17.?? it is better than Spider waffle run in sda.
My opinion Echoes are really hard to speedrun.
Metroid 1: i not never speedrun this game but this game is easy beat
Metroid 2 ROS: i not never play this game.
Super metroid: im hate Super metroid controls this is hardest 2d metroid ever
Metroid Fusion: im like this game but, my best time is 0.54 and 1% 0.59. i am good player this game.
Metroid zero mission: easiest all for me. Im beat 10% hard mode sub 51 minutes and my any-% time are 31 minutes. This is my favorite game and easy speedrun.
Metroid prime: good game but i not never speedrun this.
Metroid prime 2 echoes: good game and im working speedrun just now. This game are damn hard speedrun with sequence breaks.
Big thanks! :D  I was missed my run huh
My opinion it is possible if you have early power bombs. Silent echo have 1/1 power bomb max with last boss my opinion, but i don,t sure this.
My time after Spider guardian: 1.39 (25-minutes faster than my previous run) I am very satisfied my Spider guardian battle because it is over minutes faster than my previous run
Next segment are Early screw attack and early power bomb this is one hardest segment in the game. Im skip Power bomb guardian my run and im try get both Early power bomb 1 Transist staition power bomb 2 Sanctuary entrance power bomb
Because game are pure nightmare if you have only one power bomb max. I get both power bombs expansion.
EDIT: 1.49 before Dark samus 2. (2/2 power bomb) Pretty medicore screw attack aka early power bomb segment.
Im understand this segment frustrated you. 1=Alpha blog skip 2=Roll jump 3=Laser ghetto 4=Grapple guardian
Alpj´ha blog skip first tries took lot time and hard roll jump over water pool is damn hard trick because you need very long distance. Laser ghetto without boost ball is one hardest ghetto trick in the game. (im lose about 40-seconds time this trick my any-% run) Grapple guardian is easy time if you use scan strategy this fight.
I don,t use jump trick over water pool with roll jump my any-% run because laser ghetto took too much time and it is too frustrating use both hard trick same time.
Yeah im hold back every time when i try make double and triple bsj. Thanks! next time i don,t hold back if i try make double or triple bsj. i hope this strategy help me.
My time before Grapple guardian: 0.56
i am make millions mistake my run, but anyway this run is extremely difficult and insanely taxing
Great bridge BSJ cause lot problem, but im finally find pretty easy strategy complete this trick.
Underwater dash: im missed one time but this segement took about 3-4 hours, this trick absolutely one hardest trick in the game.
Alpha blog skip first bomb is really difficult but still one easiest trick in the game. Im working this segment about 30-minutes
Laser ghetto without boost ball im missed about 45-seconds but im working this segment about one hour.
If im ever beat this run i am pretty sure im never speedrun this again. This game is really difficult speedrun my opinion, becasue im have lot problem sequence breaks.
EDIT: 1.07 before chykka. This is about 30-minutes better than my previous run. Just i not try perfect speedrun im save my game multiple times because im have lot trouble make sequence breaks first try.
Im hate Pirate commando segment before Chykka because Pirate commando appeared abut 75-85% and im skip both commandos, but my segment look very horrible because im make really much mistake, but Pirate commando skip make this segment extremely frustrating beat.
Idon,t can make double bsj but single bsj is pretty easy. I not understand why Double and triple bsj not working me even im use same strategy than single bsj.
Im beat Empy battle in hard mode and im lose about 3-etanks my 100% file. But 6-energy tanks is pretty big risk if you play SS-run.
Kip 22% hard mode empy battle look very cool his strategy feeling very good. He lose only 50-e point Empy last form.
But, anyway. Big congrats Silent echo 2.24 is extremely good time in hard SS run.
My opinion 2.24 is good time any-% segmented because i not have much skill this game.
Really cool time only 13-minutes slower than Radix old world records any-% normal. But Silent echo beat game hard mode and SS- huh
Silent echo you said Emperor ing is hard. How many energy tanks you have max? I think if you have enought energy tanks Empy battle is pretty easy (my opinion).
I think 9% Hard mode zepetite segment took multiple hours, because you have only 2-missile max. 9% hard mode not interested me because im have lot trouble zebetite segments.
Zebetite segment my 10% hard mode run took lot restart, because this segment is really difficult, i think this is still lot easier than 9% hard mode zebetite segment.
9% normal game im find easy way beat zebetites, because im picked up only one missile refill. This is easy way beat all zebetite,s  in 9% SS run.
Easiest route beat Zebetite segment in 10% hard mode is Super missileroute, but i think 4-missile route is easiest way beat 10% hard mode game, because Tourian metroid segment is much easier if you have 4-missiles max.
I just very tired try beat 9%SS because this run frustrated me very much just now.
Im started my sequence break run today.
My time Agon wastes first save: 0.08 (minutes slower than Silent echo WR-run)
I not try beat Silent echo time, but im try beat game sub 2.30
Im watch S-echo video and many strategy working good.  Im try use Radix route, but im try skip Alpha blog and Ing hive keys, but not dark suit. I think this game is very big operation speedrun, because many segment took lot time, Im working my first segment about 2-hours. Seeker launcher after Chykka is good idea, but Chykka and Quadraxis took lot time if you have only 100-beam ammo max.
Boost guardian is irritating boss because Silent echo,s strategy not working my practice run, i not understand why. Next segment is Bomb guardian segment im try beat this boss in two round. Jump guardian trick looks very hard because this segment is really long, i not use this trick my current speedrun, because last morphed bomb jump took lot time my 100% file.
EDIT: my time after Amorbis/Agon wastes entrance: 0.40. I think this is pretty good because im not use Jump guardian trick and i don,t skip Agon keys. But im skip Agon energy control. This is 7-8 minutes faster than my 3.23 run. Next segment is Temple grounds and Torvus bog. Im try use lot BSJ trick in Torvus.
Great bridge BSJ jump save lot time but this trick is really hard because, this took about 2-minutes my test run, but anyway im need enought patience. Underwater dash are second really difficult trick in Torvus, but anyway im try survive this. Underwater dash took about ten minutes my test run. Alpha blog skip not cause lot problem my test run, but im try make this trick first tries my real speedrun.
Now i can du everysingle important sequence breaks.
Yeah next im try speedrun this game with sequece breaks.
Alpha blog skip is easy just now, my last time im missing this only three times. Under water dash is pretty hard, but im finally can du this trick.
Double and triple bsj not working yet but single bsj trick are easy just now. Ghetto jump not cause huge problem, but i not try skip dark suit my next run, because abadoned base ghetto took also couple tries. Agon energy is very easy skip, thanks dj grenola video.
Regular roll jump are easy, but Watchstation acess trick took over ten times, my practice run because you need very long distance.
Thanks. Im hope this strategy help me my next run. Im watch radix and Silent echo video, but ghetto jump cause lot problem and i not find good strategy make this jump perfectly. Im hope this Djgrenola ghetto strategy help me, my next run. My last speedrun im lose about 45-60 seconds this ghetto jump segment. Im really hate this part my run. Dark suit skip is important trick in any-% run and i m really hope this your strategy help me. Next time im try under water dash, but i not can practice this trick my 100% file, because im have gravity boots.
Roll jump are my favorite SB, heh this not cause problem me just now because this trick is pretty easy, but Bsj is really hard (specialised Alpha blog skip). This took lot time, (about 50 tries per game) i not maybe use this trick my next run.
Just now im find good route speedrun this game.
Yesterday im practice roll jump trick multiple hours, but just now this trick are pretty easy complete.
Bsj feel impossible. Only easy Bsj trick is Ing hive key board skip.
Im have much trouble perfect ghetto jump, Abadoned base ghetto are too hard without dark suit, because this trick took about 45 seconds my previous run with dark suit.
Silent echo strategy underwater dash sound very easy, but i not practice this trick yet. ´Game faqs underwater dash strategy feel very hard complete.
Early power bomb in Sanctuary fortress not cause big problem, but this is hard trick if you try speedrun this.
My route are combination Kip, Radix and Silent echo routes. I think this route make possible beat this game sub 2.30, but i not have enought skill yet.
Before speedrun i try run practice run with sequence breaks.
EDIT: Im finally skip Alpha blog. Bsj finally working, after 2-hours huh ;-) . I am pretty sure i don,t skip dark suit my next run, because abadoned base ghetto took about 10-100 tries. Hardest ghetto jump trick in 3d metroid history.
Europe released date are 5.5.06.
Fast weapons, maybe not good idea beat Menace because Menace is very hard beat if you don,t have enought Long and strong weapon.
Easiest way beat Menace is claim solasis way. Because Menace are weakness light and Claim solasis is light sword. Axe is maybe second best weapon beat Mence. Maybe somebody soul help very much, but all soul are very uneffective in speedrun. Dead pirate + devil soul make many boss very fast beat, but Dead pirate not working in Menace battle.
Devil soul + claim solasis make Menace more faster beat. Valamanway is good weapon but not working in Menace battle.
Thanks, im hope this help me when im next time try practice underwater dash.
How im du Roll jump? i not find this trick in gamefaqs.
Im hope luck if you try improve your single segment time. Im watch your 1.57 SS run and this run look really good. I think if you really try improve your 1.57SS run, you need luck.
Now my times
Any-% Super Metroid: 0.59 Metroid Fusion: 0.54 Metroid zero mission: 0.31 Metroid Prime 2 echoes: 3.23
Low-% Metroid Fusion (1%): 0.59 Metroid zero mission (9%): 0.43 Metroid prime 2 echoes (22%): 5.50
100% Metroid fusion: 1.22 Metroid zero mission: 0.58 Metroid prime: about 8-hours Metroid prime 2 echoes : 100.scan and 100% item: under 11 hours
Yeah if im use every single sequence breaks i am pretty sure im beat this game sub 2.15. But anyway. Im have too much trouble Kip dash over watch station acess and under water dash feel really difficult. Im practice under water dash jump about two months but i not never found good way make this trick.
Alpha blog skip not working me. Just i not understand why everysingle Echoes tricks is too hard me. My route look pretty much same than Kip low-% run route but i don,t use Jump guardian trick and Under water dash.
I try next time beat this game sub 3-hours. Next time im try skip Dark suit. Boost guardian is really hard beat because Silent echo strategy not working me and this boss took maybe too much time without Dark suit.
I think 3.23 is pretty good run, but im take many, many, many little mistake and many boss took too much time, specialised Spider guardian.
My first 3d metroid speedrun.
My best time Metroid prime 2 echoes normal mode
3.23 (without sequence break) I don,t can du Sequence breaks. 36% item (4-et, 50 missile, 2-power bomb)
Im use only two trick: 1-laser ghetto in Dark torvus bog 2-Abanoded base ghetto before torvus bog. 3 I don,t skip dark suit but maybe next time im try skip Dark suit
Im working this run about one week. Im maybe try improve last segment someday, because im don,t use extremely difficult instant kill strategy with Empy 3. My last segment is one minutes slower than my low-% run last segment.
Amorbis: Im lose about 15-seconds
Boost guardian: This is very bad im missed about 50-seconds
Chykka larva: pretty medicore im missed about 30-40 seconds
Chykka adult: My favorite boss look very good Im missed about 15 seconds
Spider guardian: Im hate this boss very much. Im missed about 1-2 minutes
Power bomb guardian: Pretty perfect. Maybe possible beat 10-seconds faster
Quadraxis: Pretty good first form and nearly perfect second form. Im missed one round him third form
Emperor ing: last segment 3.15-3.23 Empy 1: perfect in one round Empy 2: Nearly perfect Empy 3: I don,t use extremely difficult Instant screw attack strategy im lose about 2-3 minutes Dark samus: 5.02 time left
Instant kill strategy is very hard. This took many hours and much lucky. Regular screw attack strategy is more easier.
Im save my game over 30-times (maybe 35-37) because this is my first run.
Congrats guy. Yeah try beat next 9% normal game. This is excellent challenge, i think 15% normal mode are too easy if you picked up 4-super missile (2-expansion) and 10-missile (2-expansion) and 3-etanks.
My new record any-%: 0.59
This not looking cool, because im hate Super metroid controls. I try maybe someday beat this run sub 57 but not yet. Im take lot mistake my run and my run are PAL-versio.
Thanks aj. Just im need luck. Robot ridley is really aful fight im say this is only big problem.
Mother brain is pretty tought but im beat her yesterday my 9% single segment run 54-Epoint left.
Next time i don,t try wall jump trick Tourian escape because my hand are very nervous after Mother brain and wall jump cause lot problem me.
Just im scared black pirate battle and last escape.
But im try 9%ss run someday again. Just now im try find good way beat chozodia and Robot ridley. Robot ridley attack claw, missile combo attack and he kill me instant hit.
21% single segment prime 2 are you serious? I think anybody here never beat 22% single segment run Rekamheos said he beat 22% game only one save. My opinion it is extremely good job because im have really much trouble beat 22% segmented run.
Just 21% SS your need make grapple beam skip if you try beat this run. Silent echo have too much trouble grapple beam skip and he don,t skip grapple beam his any-% SS run. If you really try beat 21% single segment run in prime 2 ím hope good luck, really good luck.
8-) Yeah im improve last segment my 10% hard mode
My best time is now low-%: 10% hard mode: 0.50.53
Im beat extreme fast robot ridley and escape.( 46.15 before robot ridley clear time 50.53. 4.38 is my last segment time)
COOL!
EDIT: Im starting workking today Metroid zero mission 9% SS run. Im died Tourian escape     Im have really much trouble wall jump because my hand are very nervous after Mother brain battle just im falling million times and im died because my time end. Im hope better lucky next time
Im practice my run my practice save file and im found pretty good strategy dodge Robot ridley down laser. Im found many save spot in chozodia pirate segment. I think it is possible beat 9% ss run Im died today Tourian escape next time im try beat this run but im think it is extremely hard job and this took very much lucky.
Im watch Dragondarch 100% video. This video looking very cool, this is coolest nes Metroid video ever.
Ok Dargondarch is maybe best speedrunner ever. This not looking same than Metroid fusion 1% single segment but this is absolutely coolest nes Metroid video ever.
Dragondarch are master.
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Im saw sparky 100% segmented 2.25 video and it is possible beat.
He don,t skip Alpha blog and he don,t use screw attack strategy empy third form. I think he lose about 1-2-minutes emperor ing battles and about 1-minutes Alpha blog battle i am sure this run is possible beat 2.21-2.22.
Kip 3.37 22% hard mode video is easily possible beat faster but i know 22% hard mode is really difficult run maybe one hardest run in metroid game history..
EDIT: im watch Silent echo boost guardian in one round battle with hard mode. This look really cool. I think this is much better strategy than kip strategy 22% hard mode.
My escape runs normal mode
Tourian escape: 30 seconds (1.30 time left) Chozodia escape: 59 seconds (4.01 time left)
I not never beat 9% hard mode because im think Tourian Segment is very hard beat if you dont have enought missiles. 10% hard not cause problem because you have enought missiles.
2-missiles make barrieir segment impossible beat. you need four missiles ( my opinion).
Are you serious?  thanks.
EDIT: I am pretty sure ajbolt89 hard mode segmented world record is possible improve. My 35.52 time is not perfect. Game is easily possible beat sub 35. Aj route is maybe faster because he have screw attack and 4-super missile in Tourian. Im losing about one minutes time barrier and Mother brain battle because i not have screw attack.
My route is good but not best possible, because im use Transience normal mode route and i think it is not good idea in hard mode. I don,t use ajbolt89 route because horizontal bomb jump over acid pool is really impossible trick.
Im interested run this game someday sub 35,  i don,t know sub 34. It is very big work try beat wr time, because ajbolt89 hard mode time is very good. I need more patience. I don,t have enought patience my 35.52 time because im beat my run in one day .
Possible improve ajbolt89 run 1: he use energy recharge in chozodia post stealth segment 2: he beat tourian segment too slow 3: he take couple mistake 4: he save game wrong place (my opinion) 5: Aj get uncesary energy tank before Ridley. Why?
But anyway aj run is good and chozodia segment is very hard beat  hard mode without energy recharge. I don,t use this trick my 35.52 run.
ajbolt89 tell me comments. if you understand me.
:P My new record Hard mode any-% : 0.35.52
This is only 1.52 minutes slower than WR.
Im collect 35% item Im save 12-times (13-segment) My new Hard any-% run looking very cool. Im have only 199 energy point max and 30-missile & 6-super missile Im use Transiece any-% normal mode route but im picked up many missile expansion because my run is hard mode.
I am very satisfied man because many part took pure lucky. Tourian segment is aful beat fast because this segment took manipulate luck. Im have really much luck Mother brain battle. Last segment is very good but im missed little bit more time Black pirate battles. Slowest part my run is absolutely Ridley lair segment. Im hate Ridley lair segments because this segment is extreme hard beat perfectly. Tourian is second aful segment but im have enought lucky.
Im beat my run in one day, but this is very good time. Im try beat this run maybe someday sub 35 but just now i am very satisfied my run.
Im skipping early varia suit my 10% hard mode 51.25 time. My 10% hard mode time is extreme good records. This is under 6-minutes slower than ajbolt89 wr.
I am pretty sure my 10% hard mode time is second best time ever in metroid2002 forum.
EDIT: My any-% hard mode run: My time is Chozodia middle save point: 26.42 pretty good Im maybe try beat game sub 36.   But last segment is really difficult beat perfect.
Giant side hopper after long beam is possible skip. my opinion this trick is easy.
I think 10% hard mode not cause problem for me. 10% hard mode hardest part my opinoin= 1 Tourian (without varia suit) 2 Robot ridley and escape.
Just today im starting working any-% hard mode run and my time is Tourian entrance 19.12. Im have 30-missile 3-super missile and 199 E-point. Tourian segment is hardest segment, my opinion.
PS:Silent echo: Try beat next Kip 22% hard mode time. Kip don,t use fastest possible route.
Thanks Nate. My best run is only one minutes slover than your best time. I think, you picked up pretty much same expansions than me.
My opinion 0-et is not good idea because Yakuza second form is really hard beat fast without energy tanks. Im recommend pick up next time 1-et in sector 6. This tank not take too much time. Yakuza second form took lot time my 1% game because i don,t have any energy tanks.
Im collect 3-et my any-% game. I know it is pretty uncessary. I think 1-2 et is good idea, actually 0-et is good but you need really much skill and lucky Yakuza and Big core-x battle.
But congrats guy
Good work dark knight   3-minutes better than my any-% Pal versio. Im collect 10-% item because Mother plant is possible beat more faster if you have enought missiles.
You collect only 4-% item I don,t know it is good idea, because Mother plant took lot more time if you don,t have enought missiles. My 1% time is 59 because im losing much time because im have only 15-missiles. Nightmare and Mother plant took lot time if you have only 15-missiles.
4% items is pretty good idea if you pick up only one energy tank. My any-% run im collect 45-missiles 3-et and 10pb I know 45-missiles is pretty uncessary and bad idea, but Mother plant is possible beat more faster if you have 45-missiles. Nightmare took about 30-missiles. 30-missiles is maybe pretty good idea but Mother plant took about 20-30 seconds longer time if you have less 45 missiles.
But anyway 51 minutes is incredible good time. Try beat next time game sub 50 minutes and try beat current world records
My 15%SS-run heh! not speedrun. I never speedrunning 15% game because low-% is 9% normal and 10% hard. this is my first 15% game ever and im play this run with single-segment. This time is only 50-seconds faster than my best 9% segmented run.
15% single segment run is pretty easy beat. I think, this game is easily beat 12-13% single segment.  9% single segment looking insanely beat. I don,t know how many people here metroid2002 beat 9%SS run. Transience (any-% WR holder) told me he died chozodia escape.
9% single segment maybe not impossible beat because only big problem is Robot ridley. I not never beat robot ridley battle without deaths in 9% game. Low-% runs not cause problem with me. I am complete 10% hard mode run 4-times 8-)  and 9% run is about 65% easier beat than 10% hard mode.
But anyway im need practice and extreme lucky, maybe someday future im try beat 9% single segment run, but not yet.
:) 15% Single segment normal mode: time 0.42.50
This not speedrun because my time is suck. This is my second test run because im try someday beat 9%SS-run.
Thanks now im understand. Yeah this working very well
Im run my second test run and im skip: Puppet master, Gergoth, Rahab, magic seal 3, little Paranoia Death, Abadon. This route is really fast.
Next im try find good weapons. Im use Claimsolasis +devil soul with last boss. My last run im use axe weapons and im get Claim solasis
EDIT: Hups! Im need Gergoth soul because im need pick up Claim solasis. Last boss is really long and extreme hard if you don,t have Claim solasis.
EDIT 2: Ok im try beat game without claim solasis, because Gergoth took too much time. Im try use Bjuh+devil soul with last boss. Idon,t know it is Valkyrie soul good idea with Bat company battle. Hardest part my run is Bat company, Paranoia and Menace battles. Menace is really difficult beat because im have Bjuh axe, about 20-level up and devil soul.
Im understand. Every single 3d metroid sequence break is too hard for me but anyway. Silent echos is VEERRYYY much better player when me!
1.49 is extreme good time without grapple beam skip. Im say it is extreme hard but possible beat game sub 1.40 if you use screw attack strategy with last boss and skip grapple beam.
Im hope see someday sub 1.40 minutes video.
Good work!. I know how hard 100% game are. Im beat 100% run sub hour (0.58) but Im use Dragondarch route. My best 100 % SS is 1.03 im take lot mistake.
Hey guy try next time pick up all expansion first time, Im say you beat game easily sub 1.20 if you try pick up everysingle expansion first time. GOOD LUCK GUY HEH! My english is bad.
Idon,t know how hard geo gore trick are, but my opinion hardest trick in 3d metroid history is sunchamber secret world. Bomb jump not causing problem, but last un-morph in ledge is EXTREME HARD TRICK. I don,t never beat 22-23% game because this trick is impossible by me.
What are Backdash special attack? Im make boss skip when im use succubus glitch. My opinion Gergoth and Rahab is impossible skip because you don,t have succubus soul. My opinoin you need succubus soul.
Silent echo you are Metroid prime 2 echos master. But im don,t undestand why you don,t skip Grapple beam? If you are skip grapple beam this is maybe new world record time. 1.49-without grapple beam skip This is extreme good works
Thanks X-tra many new route this game.
Im running first test run this game new game+ mode. This is practice run and im try this route my new real speedrun
Segment 1: im get axe armor soul Segment 2: im get axe weapon Segment 3: Im kill Balore Segment 4: Im get Magic seal 2 and aktive teleport in garden of madness Segment 5: Dark Chapel (Valkyrie soul +Witch soul Segment 6: Dmitri: im use witch soul and Malphas are easy kill Axe armor soul Segment 7: Im kill Dario segment 8: Im get Devil soul and pick up Cutlas Segemnt 9: Im collect Magic seal 3 and im kill Puppet master Segment 10: Im telport Dark chapel and im going Subterran hell Segment 11: Im kill Rahab Segment 12: Im teleport Dark chapel again Segemnt 13: Im going Condemened tower Segment 14: Im kill Gergoth Segment 15: Im aktive teleport in Condomened tower and im going Cursed clock tower Segment 16:Im play Cursed clock tower and im get Magic seal 4 Segment 17: Im beat Zephyr and im aktive teleport. Im going Subterran hell again and im going Sliced ruins Segment 18: Im kill Bat company Segment 19: Im going Cursed clock tower and im find good way Pinnacle. Im get succubus soul and im beat Paranoia. Paranoia 1 is possible skip??? I don,t know but im skip all pillar with succubus glitch Segemnt 20: Pinnacle, durandal and Pinnacle shortcuts +Aguni and Magic seal 5 Segment 21: Final guard soul Segemnt 22: Alastor Soul Segemnt 23: Lilith soul +Garden of madness Segment 24: Im teleport Condomened tower and im get Draghinazzo soul. Im going Mine of judgment im skip Death and im going Abyss Segment 25: Im play Abyss half way puppet master soul is good in Abyss Segment 26: Im skip Abadon and im get Black panther soul. Im teleport lost village and im get Claim solasis here. Segment 27: Menace Battle
Im use Valkyrie soul and im buy lot mind up and couple potions because Bat company and paranoia is impossible without potions.
X-TRAX or somebody: would you like my strategy and route? Im speak bad english
Chykka adult is pretty easy boss, Chykka is not very hard boss in 22% game. Don,t use kip strategy because kip strategy is really hard. Im use my own strategy and Chykka adult are pretty easy. Destroy boss wings, dark beam rapid fire and second phase: dark chykka is easy beat if you use light beam charge.
Don,t try dodge boss attack with L-lock because this is kip strategy and my opinion this is harder strategy. Chykka not causing problem my 22% game im died only one time. Chykka is pretty long battle and this is only problem for me.
Im don,t like Quadraxis in 22% game because he really was hard and irritating. This boss took about one week my 22% game until finally beat him. My favorite boss in 22% is maybe Chykka or Emperor ing. Both bosses are pretty hard but not too very hard. Emperor ing is VEEERRRYYY MUUUCHHH easier if you use screw attack strategy.
My name is MASTER-88 and im speak pretty bad english. Im speedrunning 2d metroid games and 2d castlevania games. I have really good records Metroid zero missions and Fusion (maybe Finland records but not WR, yet).
Im starting run speedrun about 9-months ago.
Heh! 22% game?
Im beat hard mode single segment run and my new record is 0.46.26 pretty good time only 9-minutes slover when my hard mode segmented run. COLLECTING ITEMS=46%
Im losing time: 1: I get early varia suit ( tourian is huge risk without varia suit) about 2-3 minutes 2: I get early screw attack (easier chozodia) about 1-2 minutes 3: I don,t skip acid worm (this trick is huge risk SS-run) 2-minutes 4: Hard mode SS-run took lot more time because it is much longer and harder when normal mode SS run. Im need multiple missile expansion and tourian took lot more time with hardmode. I have 40-missiles 6-super missiles and 449 E-point. Im take lot mistake chozo boss (im missed 3-4 shots). But anyway my opinion this is good run because this is my first hard mode SS-run.
Maybe someday im try beat 9% SS run   But I think it is too hard for me.
Im need sequence break this game because someday im try new speedrun. Maybe someday im try improve my old time because my old time is pretty worst (1.24.14) . I try beat this game sub hour but im need sequence breaks.
Last time im use claim solasis route and im use devil soul, devil soul make most boss much faster beat. I don,t know it is good idea use claim solasis route but Abadon is very hard beat without claim solasis.  Bad company boss: im use ukoback soul because this soul is pretty effective.
But anyway Im need new sequence break and speedtrick because im try make new speed run this game.
I know im speak bad english.
0.52 100%???????   Im say this is fake time. WR=1.13 Maybe possible beat game 1.10.
Extreme good time! you beat my normal times 2-minutes. Low-% is only one minutes slower when my normal time but anyway You beat my total time two minutes faster when me.. CONGRATS! EXTREME GOOD WORK because my all times is pretty maximal. Wait for minutes im update your times power player list
Yeah Im understand. Low-% is maybe hardest speedrun type in Metroid zero mission. I don,t sure how many people here metroid2002 beat game 10% hard mode but anyway. Wait minutes im tell rules my previous posts.
EDIT: watching rules my previous post.
Thanks Kridly! Ok my time is nearly perfect but is very long way beat world record time, because Dragondarch time is perfect single segment run and my time is nearly perfect segmented run. This run took 4-days (longest speedrun ever with me) Heh! my 100% new records took longer time when my 10% hard mode best records.
:D My total time is any, 100 and Low-% ( low-%= 9-% normal and 10% hard)
Normal mode total time
Any-%: 0.31 Low-%: 0.43 100%: 0.58 Total time: 2.12
Hard mode total time
Any-%: 0.37 Low-%: 0.51 100%: 1.06 Total time: 2.34
RULES: 1: No emulator/ code breaker time 2: Your must be speak true (don,t lie or post fake time) 3: if you don,t beat some run, your time is N/A= (+3 hour total time.)
I speak worst english but im hope somebody people understand me.
TOP POWER PLAYER LIST NORMAL: 1 Trancience:  2.10 2 MASTER-88: 2.12 3 JaggerG: 5.11 ? (-3 hours)
TOP POWER PLAYER LIST HARD: 1 Ajbolt89: 2.19 2 MASTER-88: 2.34 3 Trancience: 6.35 (-6-hours)
Thanks! :D  I don,t beat my new run in one day because im copy my save file yesterday and  play three last segment today. This is same run when my 59.19 but im improve three last segment.
My new record 100% normal= 0.58.54 (finally sub 59) Im improving my last three segment and im beat game finally sub 59
Yeah! and this is true. I am very satisfied and tired man just now, because this run took lot time. My time is nearly perfect. Im use save point 14-time. All segment took long time.
Last three segment causing lot problem with me, but anyway.  8-) Im play perfect Chozodia and extreme perfect Chozo guardian battle. Last escape is extreme good (4.00 time left) but im missing about 1-2 seconds black pirate battles.
My opinion this is extreme good time. And my run is Pal versio.
EDIT: hups! I am really sorry double post. Im forget delete my previous post. SORRY!
My 100% normal new record is: 0.59.19 (finally sub hour)
This is pretty good time but maybe morning or someday im try improve my time sub 59. Second last segment looking horrible my run and im missed about 6-seconds Mecha ridley battle and escape.  Sub 59 time is easily possible beat but just now I am pretty satisfied my run.
Im use savepoint 15-times and my run is Pal versio.
EDIT: Im improved three last segments but im skipped one savepoint. My time is now: 0.59.06
Im need improve more 7-seconds.
Use speed booster. Jump super jump over acid pool.
Thanks! My 100% hardmode time is not world record time. Wr time 100% hard mode=Kridly 0.58.59. Huh!
My 100% hard time is not perfect because im make many little mistake.  Im say 100% hard is easily possible beat about 1.04-1.03.
Maybe next time Im try beat 100% normal sub hour. But im need improve 59-seconds my 100% best time.
Hmm? I don,t know it is Emperor ing possible beat only one hit us-versio Because Im use Europa Pal versio but anyway.
Im say emperor ing screw attack trick is pretty easy trick but im say you need lucky. This trick is difficult explain because im speak worst english.
Use screw attack under him when boss make jump attack. If you have enought lucky so boss died. Im use annhilator beam one rounds and second round im use screw attack and screw attack kill Emperor ing only one hit. Im losing only 30-beam ammo last boss my 22% game because fast screw attack strategy help me really much.
Im say this trick help lot Dr trence 18% run but I don,t can explain this better. Sorry.
My new record 100% hard mode= 1.06.51
I know this not very good time because it is about 6-minutes slower when my best 100% normal time, but anyway.
My Full gba and Ds speedrun list
GBA RUNS
Castlevania aria of sorrow Best time: 0.44.31 (Without Claim solasis) Best time hard mode: 0.48.43 (Claim solasis route) Best julius all boss hard mode: 0.23.33
Best boss rush soma: 1.25.38 Best boss rush julius: 4.52.53 (This is pretty worst)
Megaman zero 2 Best time: 0.39.56 Best hard mode: 1.00.40
Metroid fusion Best time: 0.54 Best SS time: 1.00 Best 1% time: 0.59 Best 100% time: 1.22
Metroid zero mission Best time: 0.31.18 Best SS time: 0.34.56 Best Hard mode: 0.37.24 Best 9% normal: 0.43.40 Best 10% Hard: 0.51.25 Best 100% normal: 1.00.58 Best 100% normal SS: 1.03.06 Best 100% Hard mode: 1.09.27
DS Castlevania dawn of sorrow : 1.24.14 Soma (Regular route)
Yeah only one hit. Silent Echos any-% 1.43 time both boss took: 5-minutes (battle looking perfect but he use annhilator strategy.
My low-% 22% both boss took: 7-minutes (im take lot mistake)
Yeah my low-% run Emperor ing & dark samus battle is only two minutes slower with Silent echo perfect any-% run last battle. Im say im missing 1-minutes Emperor ing first form and im missing 1-2 minutes Emperor ing third form. Im say both last boss is possible beat about 4-minutes. I don,t sure 3 minutes but anyway.
Im say Silent Echos any-% time is possible beat about  1.41-1.42 if he use Screw attack strategy last boss.
:) Maybe someday??? but just now i am very satisfied and tired man. This run took lot time and many days.
Emperor ing third form is possible beat only one hit if you use screw attack strategy.
This strategy is very good speedruns and low-% game.
My 22% run before Emperor ing 5.42-5.43 clear time 5.50
Emperor ing and Dark samus took only 7-8 minutes total time for me. Djgrenola use anhilator strategy and this strategy took much more time about 14-15 minutes.
Ok my English skill not very good but try understand my post.
:D My Low-% 22% item total time=5.50
Im use Screw attack strategy with Emperor ing and this strategy help me really much. Dark samus causing lot problem for me but im finally beat this game. :)
Heh im working my 22% run about 2-3-months
Emperor ing third form is possible beat screw attack. Im practice this strategy my 100% file and im losing only 3-energy tanks. Screw attack strategy losing huge amount damage with Emperor ing but I not sure are this good idea my 22% game.
Strategy feeling fast and cool because im not need annhilator beam and missiles.
Sorry im not speak good english.
Early super missile without mock ball trick. I know this item is virtually impossible get, if you don,t use mock ball trick. Im say you need extreme lucky and many tries.
You play 18% run? My opinion low-% is 20-22%. Im play 22% because im don,t can use secret worlds.
Im watching djgrenola video and third form really looking cool because dj have only 1-energy point end part this fight. Im really hate this fight because first form is long because im missing many round when I missing many super missile. My opinion is very hard shooting super missile in Emperor ing core. Second form took lucky because it is very hard without power Bombs and Im have only 2-power bomb max. Yes third form is crazy but djgrenola and kip video help me.
[quote="rekameohs"]
Hey does that mean that you beat Quadraxis? If so congrats! Emperor Ing is hard, I'm guessing that you're having trouble with the third form? Just make sure to refill everything in the second form and don't waste ammo. Whenever you run low however, refill using the nightbarbs and white things. Other than the screw attack strategy, there is sadly no real strategy for beating him, it's mostly luck. Don't worry though, after him, DS is a wimp
Yes im beat Quadraxis. Im died Emperor ing third form because boss use jump attack with me and took about 50-energy point my energy metter. Emperor ing looking pretty easy but feeling very hard because this battle is really long. If im beat him my clear time is about 6 hours. Yes im need patience and luck because all three form feeling very hard beat. Im watching djgrenola and Kip video and im try just same strategy
Maybe coolest thing.
1 All sequence break and secret worlds and world record runs in sda looking very cool and many run is almost impossible beat 2 My Gba Metroid low-% run is good for me 3 Im Beat Quadraxis my 22% game. Not bad because im have really lucky this fight.
Good work Silent echo . I am just inside sky temple my 22% game. How hard emperor ing is 22% normal run? My opinion Emperor ing not looking very hard kip 22% hard mode run. But I don,t know, maybe boss is incredible hard.
EDIT: Yeah Emperor ing is Really hard my 22% normal game. Im trying couple times but im not beat him yet. Boss took about 30- 70-energy point per hit aargh.
My favorite games list. 50-good/very good video game ever.
1=Metroid zero mission gba 2=Super castlevania 4 snes 3=Jackal nes 4=Castlevania nes 5=Little nemo dream master nes 6=Super mario bros 3 nes 7=Metroid fusion gba 8=Legend of zelda nes 9=Super metroid snes 10=Heavy barrel nes
11=Link to the past snes 12=Secret of mana snes 13=Yoshis island snes/gba 14=Metroid prime gc 15=Metroid prime 2 echoes gc 16=Abadox nes 17=Ninja gaiden nes 18=Ninja gaiden 2 nes 19=Castlevania aria of sorrow gba 20=Rush attack nes
21=Megaman zero 2 gba 22=Donkey kong country snes 23 Donkey kong country 2 gba 24=Ducktales nes 25=Ducktales 2 nes 26=Dragon fighter nes 27=Castlevania dracula curse nes 28=Guardian legend nes 29=Super mario bros 2 nes 30=Gremlis 2 nes
31=Bionic commando nes 32=Bucky o-hare nes 33=Castlevania dawn of sorrow Ds 34=Dr mario nes 35=Lemmings snes 36=Megaman series 1-6 nes 37=S.C.A.T nes 38=Super mario world snes 39=Super probotector snes 40=Super mario kart snes
41=Diddy kong racing n64 42=Ghost & Goblins nes 43=Dragon lair nes 44=Contra nes 45=Wizard warrior nes 46=Oracle series gbc 47=R-type dx 48=Super mario bros nes 49=Joe & Mac nes 50=F-zero gx gc
:P Im finally beat Quadraxis my 22% game. This boss took about week and many many many tries. Thanks Rekameohs good light beam strategy and easy screw attack with antenna. I am very satisfied just now.
But anyway 8-) . Next boss is Emperor ing.
No 100%. My time is any-% run   Heh this not good time it is 6-minutes slower when Red scarlet wr 100% run.
Yeah now im understand you. You use different route. Im use same route with Transience but my single-segment run im use Acid worm route because acid worm skip is huge risk with single segment run. Im use my segmented 26%-route and single segment 32% route.
Why you get varia suit? early varia suit is not good idea any-% run . Yeah many people skipped charge beam but my opinions this not good idea because spider segment in ridley lair is possible beat little bit more faster and charge beam makes many place easier beat but anyway.
Congratulations guy.
:D My time is now 1.01. This is 13 minutes faster when my previous time.
pros 1=im get early super missile 2=im use wave beam strategy phantoon battle 3=im use Smokey,s wr route
cons 1=im don,t use mother brain barrier trick 2=im don,t use quick charge trick (maybe impossible europa versio) 3=im don,t use fast super missile strategy with Kraid battle. 4=im missing couple speedtrick 5=im use save point many times
I know this is not good time but someday im try improve this run.
Im say ajbolt89 10% hard mode run is extreme good. He beat game only two minutes slower with my best 9% normal. Kraid is slower battle 9% normal because he throwing slower sickle. Barrier segment is slower becasue one super missile make barrier segment much more faster beat.
Im say my best time 9% normal is good time 43.40. Im beat extreme fast robot ridley battle and im take lot risk last escape with Chozodia. Mother brain is pretty good battle but not perfect and im missing couple missile refill with Tourian.
After 9% normal im play 10% hard mode just same route when my 9% normal. my 10% hard time is 51.25. This time is one coolest run ever by me. Im beat kraid battle faster 10% hard mode run, but im losing lot time Tourian metroid segment.
Thanks! im try this strategy next time. Yeah first form is extreme hard im need about 20-30 trying this form. I know im really need lucky because all Quadraxis 3-forms looking very hard to beat.
Im finally beat Quadraxis first form my 22% game . Thanks light beam strategy.  But second form is real trouble without light ammo because Boss don,t give light beam ammo and this is trouble becasuse im losing all light ammo Quadraxis first form.
Second form: Im don,t use screw attack with antenna because this trick is too hard for me. Im use power beam rapid fire and super missile his antenna. Second form is maybe lot easier if im have enought light beam ammo but all light beam losing him first form. I don,t know how effective is dark beam because boss don,t give light beam ammo and regular power beam rapid fire is uneffective.
Thanks! Im try light beam strategy next time. Kip use super missile Quadraxis legs.
Yeah im watching djgrenola, Kip low-% run and silent echos any-% run video(3-e-tanks without dark suit looking very cool) but this not help me. Because Quadraxis kill couple hits and he don,t give enought energy refill for me.
22% game is not problem but this battle is only super hard boss this game. Im say he is lot harder when Boost guardian.
Im use super missiles first form but i not never beat first form
Im trying Quadraxis my 22% game, but im died after 5-seconds. Quadraxis is superior hardest boss in the game .
Just im died after 5-seconds but boss took about 12-minutes. He really was impossible for me.
Tell me best possible strategy Quadraxis battle. :?
Yeah but 22% 2-segment run is really crazy. about same thing when single segment run. Im say, if you are really beat 22% 2-segment (only one save). it is really good work.   Try beat next time single segment run heh heh.
EDIT: If Kip time is worst why anybody people here metroid2002. never beat him hardmode 22% time? I know hardmode 22% looking hard because Boost guardian and Quadraxis. But im think it is easier when 22% normal ss run.
:D Good work Rekameohs. Are you really beat 22% single segment run? You time 2.56 not worst time because Kip records is hard mode 3.37.
I don,t know how hard Quadraxis battle is, but im watching kip video and Quadraxis looked really difficults battle.
Aika hyvä jos olet vahingossa skipannut Alphablogin. Itse kun en onnistu siinä edes tarkotuksella vaikka kuinka yritin.
Im beat Chykka fight my 22% run. This not causing trouble with me because im died only one time.
Ok this not really speedrun because all sequence break causing lot trouble. Im not trying underwater dash and im not skip Alphablogg and I am choosing wrong way couple times.
Next big boss is Quadraxis :x Im say this boss looking extreme difficult in 22% game. Im think never beat this boss because he really look impossible fight But anyway.   way to go Sanctuary fortress.
:) Thanks guy! Yes my Zero mission runs is good because I play Metroid zero mission very much. Im really specialed my low-% runs 9% normal and 10% hard and of course Metroid fusion 1% run is fun and hard speedrun. Of course im like zero mission all speedrun type (100%, any-% and singlesegment runs)
Im don,t play good time 3d metroid games because everysingle sequence break causing lot problem with me.[/quote]
Im watching Smokey,s run. Smokey use most impossible trick. He jump fast speed booster super jump over water pits before Wrecked ship. Im say you need longer corridor with Pal versio. Im use regular dashjump with Pal versio and this trick is harder.
Doors open slower and screw attack skip is harder with pal-versio. I don,t cant use speedbooster because Im take hit the door and it stop my dash. Im need use all 5 Power pombs cracked pillars because speed boost super jump is impossible makes this place. My strategies is harder and slower.
EDIT: Yes im try someday this quick charge trick and next time im try pickup early super missile.
My time,s
Any-% Metroid=N/A Metroid 2= N/A Super Metroid=1.14 Metroid Fusion= 0.54 Metroid zero mission= 0.31.18 Metroid Prime= N/A Prime 2 echoes= N/A
Low-% Metroid fusion= 0.59 Metroid zero mission= 0.43 & hard mode= 0.51
100% Metroid fusion= 1.22 Metroid zero mission= 1.00.58 & hard mode 1.09.27 Metroid Prime= about 8.?? hours Metroid prime 2 echoes= about 12.?? hours
Im play my first test run this game. My time is really suck 1.14   Ok this not really speedrun because im make lot mistake in the game.
1= im not pickup early super missile. 2= im missing about 5-time hard jumping kraid lair/eastbrinstar without hi-jump boots. 3=im forget wave beam. Im collect wavebeam later. 4=Very hard dash jump over water pits before Wrecked ship causing lot problem with me. Im losing maybe 1-2 minutes important time.  5=im forgot power Bomb refill. Im losing about 1-2minutes. 6=all boss battles looking horrible my test run. 7=im use save point most time and make lot horrible mistake
Maybe next week im try beat really speedrun. Im try beat game about 50 minutes.
Im play Europa Pal versio. Possible versio difference: 1=You need longer corridor speedbooster dash thats you can,t make superjump. This make lot part more harder. 2=doors open slower.
Im not speak good english.
If you beat 22% single segment run. Im say this is maybe one coolest run in Metroid game history. You died before jump guardian: try again Silent echo.
Im say lot part looking very cool 22% ss run. Irritating Boost guardian and Quadraxis take lucky because you need enought energy refill both boss battles. Emperor Ing is really long battle and take time about 30 minutes. This run took about 3-hours total time.  You must need lucky every single seconds because dark air eat you energypoint and you need enought refill.  GOOD LUCK!
:P Good test run Trancience. only 4 half minutes slower when my best 9% run. You are over 3-minutes faster when my hard mode 10% run. Trancience! try now beat my 9% time. You have more skill. im say this game is easily possible beat sub 43 but you need lucky Tourian and bosses. My 9% time is very good but not perfect.
Im say 22% ss run is more cooler when orginal metroid prime 22% ss run because Metroid prime 2 echoes most bosses is more harder and longer when orginal prime bosses. Im say Quadraxis looking impossible fight 22% game. Boost guardian take over hour my 22% run, because i am unlucky this fight. just now I have huge problem Under water area because this under water dash is  impossible trick for me. Im say you really need lucky if you try and beat 22% ss run. Some future im hoping see 22%ss video in sda.
Silent Echo try 22% single segment run Im say this is very interesting/impossible run.
Im play 22% run, but under water dash jump is too hard for me, Im try under water dash jump million time and couple days but this sequence break is too hard for me.
30.06 without Acid worm skip. This is really good time because my single segment time is 34.56 with acid worm route.
Why you don,t skip Acid worm battle? this boss is easy skip segmented run, but huge risk skip SS run.
:D  Im finally improve my 10% hard mode
My time is now 10% hard mode: 0.51.25 4-missile route 18-segment 17-save Pal versio (Maybe possible beat 9%)
I am very tired and satisfied now . This time is really good, not world record but really really good time. Because 10% hard mode run is aful hard. Im working three day and most multiple hours. This run is lot harder when 9% normal.
Japanese hard mode 1% game are very interesting. Annoying I don,t have japanese versio.
En muuten tiedä tuosta Metroid prime huntersista viellä että onko se tullut. Itsekkään en ole muuten pelanut Metroid 2 return of samusia koska en ole sitä peliä mistään löytänyt . aikoinaan yritin kyllä etsiä sitä mutta ei tärpännyt. Nes Metroidin sain pelattua läpi vasta Metroid primen mukana. Olen itsekkin kaikki muut Metroidit läpäissyt
First segment is very difficult 10% hard mode run. it is much harder when 9% normal run. Im play First segment different strategy in 10% hard. Im use savepoint after Irritating worm battle and im get missile first geemer enemy, because two missile make most faster beat two tentacle/hive. Im don,t get varia suit Brinstar because this item is unnecesarry this game. save 1: 1.38 after worm battle save 2: 6.34 norfair after power grip save 3: 10.11 before Ridley save 4: 12.12 after Ridley
My previous run is pretty slow because im use Super missile route, many part is more slower only two missile and super missile item drop very rarery , but now im use 4-missile route. I don,t know are this good idea because Tourian take much longer without super missile.
EDIT: Now my time Tourian entrance is 21.51 it is very good time only 50-second slower with world record time. But Tourian is superior hardest segment in 10% hard. Im really need lucky now.
EDIT 2: First metroid part is complete. My time is now 27.2?, Metroid part is maybe little bit more faster when ajbolt89 previous run. This part took about 2-hours huh!
EDIT 3:  Im finally beat aful Tourian both metroid segment, my time is now 30.20, I don,t know how fast this segment are ajbolt89 previous 4-missiile run. my best time is 9% normal are 43 minutes and after Tourian metroid my time is 9% normal 24.14. Im losing about six minutes Tourian Metroid segment in hard mode. If im play very fast maybe possible beat game 50-51 minutes. Im really need take lot risk Mother brain battle but Mother brain is really hard beat fast, my strategy is different when aj strategy, my strategy make boss easier beat but im think it is maybe little bit more slower when ajbolt strategy. Im hope good luck now .
Kridly im ask you question hard mode 100% runs: pick up early varia suit in Brinstar? Im dont get Early varia suit 100% normal mode but im take early varia suit 100% hard mode beacause im don,t sure have enought energy in Norfair room,s Sorry my english skill are rusty try understand me.
many people say Magmoor run without varia suit is possible, but it is veryhard. I not know because im not trying this. You need couple energy tanks if you try magmoor run.
Terve kerrankin aito suomalainen täällä. Itse olen vielä melko uusi täällä ja puhun ehkäpä keskivertoa huonompaa englantia, joten en siksi postaa aivan joka kysymykseen. Oletkos kova Metroid fani? Itselläni on pakko mielle gba metroideihin.
Im starting working 10% hard mode speedrun today. Im try improve my previous time. Im use now 4-missile route, my previous record is completed super missile route.
Super missile route make most part slower and harder beat, but Tourian is much faster with super missile route.
My time is now after beat Ridley savepoint is 12.12. This is pretty good.  I HATE Tourian segment very much, last time this segment took 15 minutes in Super missile route but my first time 4-missile route this part  took 28-minutes game time.
Now I try beat game 4-missile route and im try beat game sub 54 minutes. I say maybe 49-50 minutes but Tourian is incredible difficult beat fast. I watching Tourian segment many time and I trying find good save spot with metroid.
Very weird challenge. Im completed 15 missile run only 1 missile expansion (1% item).  Minimal possible more missile is 15. You need use lot charge beam 1% speedrun.
My opinion 31.XX is very good time. Im really need patience if im try beat game sub 31. multi segment pure speedrun is more harder with low-% run because if you play low-% run you don,t need perfect segment.
No minä yritän saada ainakin selvää. Tuskin itse puhun parempaa englantia, mutta tärkeintähän on se että tekstistä saa selvää. Harjoitus ja kokemus tekevät mestarin. Harjoittele vielä niin kohta puhut jo sujuvaa suomea.
Hmm olet ensimmäinen suomea puhuva henkilö minun lisäksi hyvä.
My Metroid game topic
1=Metroid zero mission Best metroid game. Lot different speedrun route, pretty easy sequence breaks and mighty low-% run
2=Metroid fusion Im like 1% game boss fights. But im hate long subprogram after everysingle sector.
3=Metroid prime Cool game, but too hard secret world and sequence break
4=Super metroid Difficult control is only cons, but im like this game too much.
5=Metroid prime 2 echoes Good game but darkworld is irritating place and sequence breaks is too hard with me
6=Metroid orginal Metroid is nice metroid game but little bit more boring
Metroid 2002:sessa ei näy olevan viellä suomalaista foorumia joten teen nyt tänne tälläisen. Eli kaikki jotka nyt taitavat suomen kieltä niin laittakaa tänne metroidiin koskevia kysymyksiä ja ideoita.
9% single segments like crazy run, I try this run couple times, but most part take too much lucky. Yesterday im died Mother brain battle because im falling acid pool. Mother brain is pretty hard but Mecha ridley is too hard beat without death. Im really hate last escape after Mecha ridley, this escape cause lot horror with 9 ss run.
Hmm? Im say segment or save anyway. 17-segment is 16 save. Ok im speak english pretty worst.
Yea 9% run is my one favorite speedrun type. Im maybe try someday 9% SS run but im need good strategy Robot ridley battle. Irritating claw, missile, laser combo kill each hits.
My 9% run is over two minute better with ajbolt89 hard mode super missile route, and over 6 minute better with ajbolt89 previous 4 missile route.  9% run have much faster Tourian segment. I don,t take any video or evidence my speedrun.
Hard mode 10% run is too hard beat fast, most segment take too much Lucky, ajbolt89 hardmode low-% time is really mighty.
BRAVO! Really good job. Im watching you video, this is virtually impossible beat.
All Metroid fusion bosses is easy beat, but Mecha spider and Nightmare is real pain 1% speedrun.
This video look very good. Im play same route hard mode 10% sub hour, but im never beat ajbolt89 new record. Im like very much Tourian segment. ajbolt89 beat tourian about 10 minutes this is really fast time beat hardest segment in 10% hard mode. Im use different strategy tourian super missile route. Im save every metroid room and try get multiple super missile per- room.
My best time is europa Pal versio
BEST TIME: 0.54  (10% item 17-segment) BEST TIME SINGLE SEGMENT: 1.00 (18% item) BEST TIME 1%: 0.59 (1% item 19-20 segment) BEST TIME 100%: 1.22
My speedrun Metroid zero mission is now Normal and Hard PAL-versio
Best time: 0.31.18 Best time single segment: 0.34.56 Best time hard mode. 0.37.24
Best time low-% 9% normal: 0.43.40 Best time low-% hard mode 10%: 0.57.14
Best 100% time: 1.00.58 Best 100% single segment: 1.03.06 Best 100% hard mode: 1.09.27