Donald Trump, Russian Agent

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Topic set by AndroidUS!~AndroidUS@32.209.148.69 on Wed Feb 14 2018 14:37:32 GMT-0800 (PST)
15:27	digimiton	am i another fool AndroidUS? ... it seems that u're a grossy one, stupid ^^
15:27	Popper	hey AndroidUS if we can talk 23 hours a day about trump, is it so terrible that we talk 1 hour a day about south america?
15:28	Popper	digimiton, HEY!
15:28	AndroidUS	You did
15:28	Popper	don't diss on AndroidUS
15:28	AndroidUS	last night
15:28	digimiton	oh okay... lts talk about USA then
15:28	Renzai	Popper: How would you grade Trump's presidency so far?
15:28	digimiton	Popper pm
15:28	Popper	Renzai, 9.9 out of 10
15:28	digimiton	if u want to discuss , at least we can talk using portuguese!
15:28	Renzai	Popper: I would give him an F.
15:28	Popper	Renzai, I'm kidding of course
15:29	Renzai	Popper: Are you familiar with Poe's law?
15:29	Popper	Renzai, I'd give him a.. C?
15:29	Popper	Renzai, no
15:29	Popper	I liked obama better if that's what you're asking
15:29	Renzai	Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views.[1][2][3]
15:29	digimiton	laceless gonna check that archive
15:29	Renzai	Popper: One of the reasons I give him an F is because he is a Russian agent.
15:29	Popper	Renzai, makes sense
15:29	Renzai	And our country has been partially captured by Russia on his watch.
15:30	Renzai	Do you contend those claims?
15:30	Popper	Renzai, I don't think he's a russian agent
15:30	Popper	yes
15:30	Popper	I don't think trump is a russian agent
15:30	laceless	"contend" doesn't mean what you think it means, raindonna
15:30	Renzai	Popper: What are the essential qualities of an agent for a polity?
15:30	digimiton	cyka blyet, loves vladmir and drink vodkas, rush b and go
15:30	digimiton	;s
15:30	Renzai	laceless: You are correct. I was wrong.
15:31	Renzai	Popper: Donald Trump hasn't enforced the sanctions bill passed by 99% of Congress that he signed.
15:31	Renzai	My assertion is that is because he is an agent of Russia.
15:31	Renzai	What's your causality?
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15:32	fierylv	niggers
15:32	fierylv	nigs
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15:32	digimiton	;~
15:32	digimiton	bye, honey
15:33	Popper	Renzai, I don't think that is proof he's a russian agent and there are many things trump has said and done that would contradict the idea that he is russian agent. Not only that, but I'd also give him the full benefit of the doubt.
15:33	Renzai	A foreign agent is anyone who actively carries out the interests of a foreign country while located in another host country, generally outside the protections offered to those working in their official capacity for a diplomatic mission. Foreign agents may be citizens of the host country. The term has broad application, and is also used (interchanged with "For
15:33	Renzai	Popper: Let's go piece by piece.
15:34	Renzai	1. It's not intended to be a proof -- it's intended to be evidence in a Bayesian framework.
15:34	Renzai	2. Name two things that Trump has done that lowers the posterior on his being a Russian agent.
15:34	Renzai	3. What is the epistemic basis of "giving him the benefit of the doubt"?
15:35	Renzai	I claim there is no basis for 3 -- at least in the way you worded it.
15:35	fieryUSA	17 confirmed dead in shooting
15:35	Renzai	Where you have evidence, you go with your evidence. Where you do not have evidence, you go with your prior.
15:35	Renzai	The prior on any person being a Russian agent is very lower.
15:35	Renzai	However, we have sufficient evidence in the case of Donald Trump to go with the evidence.
15:35	Renzai	fieryUSA: Relevance?
15:35	digimiton	fuck ;(
15:36	digimiton	so sad that it happens... wtf this guy has on his mind, why people is always wanting to fuck with someone lifes... wtf do someone dothat? no ones has nothing to do with their frustated feelings -.-
15:37	Renzai	digimiton: I'm not sure that is helpful.
15:37	digimiton	im dont want to help, and even if i could... i couldn't... ;}
15:38	digimiton	if i wanted, i couldn't
15:39	Renzai	Popper: You appear to have exited the conversation.
15:39	Popper	I was getting food and now I'm eating it
15:39	digimiton	so.. is it or is it not trump a cyka blyet agent?
15:39	Popper	BURRITOS
15:39	Renzai	Popper: On 2016 Aug 16, Donald Trump was brief by US IC that Russia was conducting a cyberwarfare campaign against the US/2016 Election.
15:40	Renzai	Popper: After this date, Donald J. Trump repeatedly attempt to unilaterally dump sanctions against Russia.
15:40	Renzai	Popper: The dropping of sanctions on Russia is one of Russia's top geopolitical aims.
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15:40	fierylove	niggers
15:40	AndroidUS	ok
15:40	BigKerm	ok
15:40	Popper	Renzai, I think an extraordinary claim needs extraordinary evidence
15:40	fierylove	super predator niggers
15:40	Renzai	Popper: Quid pro quo acts after being informed the other party is guilty of a crime is a crime.
15:40	Joey	who did I kick this time?
15:41	digimiton	Joey fierylove
15:41	AndroidUS	Let's flush the toilet
15:41	fierylove	joey is a nigger lover
15:41	Renzai	Popper: You appear to be at the platitude level on this topic.
15:41	Renzai	This is not congruent with my level.
15:41	digimiton	fierylove hello honey, what brings u here?
15:41	Renzai	I, too, am familiar with 17th century epistemology.
15:41	fierylove	trying to get people to play me on obamacry 4
15:41	Renzai	It's subsumed into statistical inference.
15:41	digimiton	Renzai epistemology?
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15:42	digimiton	Pierre Bourdieu ?
15:42	Renzai	digimiton: The branch of philosophy concerned with how we know things.
15:42	digimiton	karl popper?
15:42	Joey	heh
15:42	digimiton	Renzai i know what epistemology means
15:42	BigKerm	popper i need to put digimiton on my work proxy is going through a Russian connected lawyer
15:42	AndroidUS	They  are really smart guys
15:42	Renzai	Donald Trump's family and campaign met with Russian agents in Trump Tower to discuss the Magnitsky Act.
15:42	digimiton	Popper ?
15:43	Renzai	Donald Trump was in the building at the time of this meeting.
15:43	digimiton	russian connected lawyer? what?
15:43	Renzai	digimiton: We've not dealt with a Russian agent as president before.
15:43	AndroidUS	*yawn*
15:43	Renzai	A lot of people's worldview isn't sure how to handle it.
15:43	Renzai	So they fall back on 'core programming'.