<Mobius`> Alright
<Mobius`> Just going to make this clear as crystal for you
<Mobius`> Everything that happens in #A3 is deliberately posted as public information
<Mobius`> so log leaking becomes more a of a benefit
<Mobius`> That being in mind
<Mobius`> bringing up my interest in the hack itself
<Mobius`> bares no reason to keep me glined
<Mobius`> or is the Helten incident
<Mobius`> That's retarded
<Mobius`> I think I've read my share of dumb reasonings from you
<Mobius`> and it's time we speak about it
<Mobius`> So whenever you decide to stop double talking to Strangle and come to me
<Mobius`> I'll be right here waiting
<Cyber-> funny, i was about to tell strangle that last sentence if you were ready, perhaps hes a mind reader
<Cyber-> now then
<Mobius`> <Cyber->      shock image in the birthday thread
<Mobius`> That was how long ago?
<Cyber-> what interest did you have in the hack
<Cyber-> less than 2 months
<Mobius`> What image?
<Cyber-> why answer what you already know
<Cyber-> lets get to the point, what is it you're looking for in the hack
<Mobius`> because I know the answer is dumd, but fine
<Mobius`> Well if you know
<Mobius`> then you know the answer
<Mobius`> I am finding ways to detect hacking
<Cyber-> so what do you already know
<Mobius`> Easier ways
<Mobius`> even from the other person's demo
<Mobius`> Find ways to make hacking so less obvious that it doesn't cause desyncs
<Mobius`> I was already suspected of cheating already
<Mobius`> So me doing this shouldn't come to any surprise
<Mobius`> but what I want to know is
<Mobius`> Why is it a concern?
<Cyber-> we have an antihack being made, it should be done by the end of this month at most
<Mobius`> That's nice.
<Mobius`> but why delve into it anyway?
<Mobius`> again
<Mobius`> why is it a concern?
<Mobius`> You are aware I had the hack for months
<Cyber-> it's not a concern, more or less curioisity
<Cyber-> if you guys learn something i'd like to know
<Mobius`> It will more than likely a chance be posted publically
<Mobius`> where someone would leak the log
<Mobius`> as I intend
<Mobius`> Which is why most of my common findings are posted openly
<Mobius`> I doubt there's a way to bypass the demo
<Cyber-> i don't see any reason for me to leak this log anyway
<Mobius`> I was talking about #A3
<Mobius`> I always post my findings there
<Mobius`> So then, why was it brought up in that conversation?
<Mobius`> and why am I glined for the helten situation?
<Cyber-> just make sure theres no one with links to nipaz there
<Cyber-> uh...you're glined for the virus incident 3 months ago
<Mobius`> Yea
<Mobius`> That I am aware
<Mobius`> but what does it have to do
<Mobius`> with Helten?
<Mobius`> cause you brought that up as reinforcement
<Mobius`> to my ban
<Mobius`> Which is outside of ST
<Mobius`> and actually doesn't involve me
<Cyber-> so then who does it involve
<Mobius`> nor have I actually sent shota to Helten
<Mobius`> Scotty and Helten
<Mobius`> Helten told me that the PI is after Scotty
<Mobius`> because he has Helten's personal information
<Mobius`> enough to call the cops on him for his, "attempted," suicide
<Mobius`> So people over at Helten's were concerned if he was a pedophile
<Mobius`> My involvement is very little
<Mobius`> if not non-existent
<Cyber-> i see
<Cyber-> and for whatever reason it seems that helten is trying to get everyone involved in it
<Mobius`> He got Bluewiz involved
<Mobius`> Bluewiz came on quakenet to interrogate me
<Mobius`> and I treated him as I would anyone that isn't involved
<Mobius`> I don't owe him an answer.
<Cyber-> kid's digging his own grave
<Mobius`> That's his problem
<Mobius`> Then there's you expecting me to pull a Tenchu
<Mobius`> with his hacking incident
<Cyber-> hm?
<Mobius`> I read that pastebin
<Mobius`> you had in #MLK I believe
<Mobius`> when free Mobius was brought up again
<Mobius`> That you would have expected me to actually hack and did what Tenchu did
<Mobius`> All these things to reinforce a ban that was only primarily suppose to expire eventually
<Mobius`> as you promised.
<Mobius`> but apparently the story keeps changing
<Mobius`> with more developments show up
<Mobius`> that somehow has little to do with me
<Cyber-> last i recollect i dont even recollect the mention of 'tenchu' in mlk
<Mobius`> it was some public channel since many people had input in it
<Cyber-> in either case the story stands as you were glined for 3 months now since the virus and you still have a ways to go
<Cyber-> because of the virus
<Mobius`> That seems to be less of the case
<Mobius`> the more it is mentioned to you
<Mobius`> First it was the possibility I am not beneficial
<Mobius`> which is a lie
<Cyber-> considering the drama that came
<Mobius`> because Stalin and I pretty much got the clanscene going last year. Then there's the helten situation, which has nothing to do with me
<Mobius`> Then you brought up this hack nonsense you can't really pin me on
<Mobius`> then some shock image
<Mobius`> which by the way
<Mobius`> I posted 2 images to my recollection
<Cyber-> seems raz didnt send you the full log
<Mobius`> a cake that looked like shit
<Mobius`> and a guy that is smeared in brown stuff
<Mobius`> a video of the brown note, which is just text and a brown background
<Mobius`> I didn't fully read it yet
<Cyber-> i'll get back to you later then
<Mobius`> I am talking to it to you instead
<Mobius`> #
<Mobius`> 17:02:38  <Cyber->      whatever caused the whole mobius x mlk
<Mobius`> #
<Mobius`> 17:03:25  <strangle__>  mobius x mlk?
<Mobius`> #
<Mobius`> 17:04:02  <Cyber->      remind me why i'm trying to reason when we both know it isnt worth bringing him back
<Mobius`> ^ btw
<Mobius`> Mere caused that
<Mobius`> twice
<Mobius`> and she admitted to both
<Cyber-> once you're done then we'll resume, in the meantime i've got a couple of phone calls to make
<Mobius`> read the whole thing
<Mobius`> Points still stand
<Cyber-> and so does mine, it's only been 3 months so you still have a ways to go
<Mobius`> That's not what I am saying to you
<Mobius`> I don't give a shit about being banned or not
<Mobius`> I am contesting your shakey reasons
<Mobius`> I can be banned from here to 2040 and it won't bother me
<Cyber-> would you feel better if i went and told everyone "ok mobius is banned for posting a virus so he's not getting unbanned" in every channel?
<Mobius`> I don't even play ST
<Mobius`> That's more of an honest reason
<Mobius`> than the bullshit you're spewing
<Cyber-> and drama would STILL ensue
<Mobius`> Drama ensues ANYWAY
<Mobius`> IT'S SKULLTAG
<Cyber-> strangle knows this and he still goes with the free mobius thing
<Mobius`> The fuckin` whole community is stupid as hell
<Mobius`> and strangle is my attorny and represents me right?
<Cyber-> well he did organize the "campaign" as he says
<Cyber-> besides thats unrelated
<Mobius`> HE
<Mobius`> Not me
<Cyber-> besides thats unrelated
<Mobius`> then why bring it up?
<Mobius`> Why tell Strangle it isn't helping my case
<Mobius`> if it's unrelated
<Cyber-> i can't go offtopic with you can i
<Cyber-> the reason i went to him was because of the whole free mobius thing
<Mobius`> but that's him
<Cyber-> which started a second topic regarding if you knew anything towards the hack
<Cyber-> which that pastebin log went to you
<Mobius`> I don't even understand the hack mention
<Cyber-> it was if you guys knew anything "more" about it
<Mobius`> It isn't even a concern, but then you even said that I would pull a Tenchu regarding the Tenchu incident
<Cyber-> i could care less if you guys use it as long as you don't use it in-game
<Mobius`> and you expected me to do some shit like that earlier
<Mobius`> so knowing you
<Mobius`> you would try to pin that on me
<Cyber-> quit assuming and implying
<Mobius`> hey
<Mobius`> you said it
<Mobius`> not me
<Mobius`> I wouldn't be implying shit
<Cyber-> the only thing i have against you at this point is that virus
<Mobius`> if you didn't give me anything to work with, especially when you straight up say it
<Mobius`> No
<Mobius`> apparently you don't
<Cyber-> and i learned you were using the hack YESTERDAY when i got back from vacation all last week
<Mobius`> if you keep mentioning other reasons lol
<Cyber-> using the  hack for experimental purposes*
<Mobius`> That's right
<Mobius`> I would love to know who leaked that
<Mobius`> though
<Mobius`> as I said
<Mobius`> in #Ae
<Cyber-> it's no harm
<Mobius`> A3*
<Mobius`> it's intentional
<Mobius`> if I wanted it to be private
<Mobius`> I'd be on ts/skype/aim
<Mobius`> in any event
<Cyber-> like i said, i'm just more or less curious if you find anything that could help
<Mobius`> The shock image of a girl
<Mobius`> being beaten up = LOL no way
<Mobius`> Come on
<Mobius`> I've done worst (somehow)
<Mobius`> and gotten in less trouble
<Mobius`> or more trouble
<Mobius`> You guys have alternating standards of what's inappropriate
<Cyber-> then maybe i should of just got you when you did worse instead of giving chances
<Mobius`> You know
<Mobius`> That's a lot more acceptable than pinning bullshit on me
<Mobius`> drama
<Mobius`> come on now
<Mobius`> MLK and Pro started that
<Mobius`> but somehow it's my fault
<Mobius`> I am somehow immatur
<Mobius`> immature*
<Mobius`> for defending myself
<Mobius`> uh huh
<Mobius`> ok
<Mobius`> But hey
<Mobius`> At least people know what I'm about
<Cyber-> hey your guys attacked my clanmates
<Cyber-> namely goliath at the time
<Cyber-> i just retaliate
<Mobius`> because you attacked mine for attacking MLK for attacking me
<Mobius`> Funny you say that
<Mobius`> since Goliath is pretty much around me 24/7 lol
<Mobius`> making that meaningless
<Cyber-> something i didnt know then
<Mobius`> You don't know anything
<Mobius`> or you pretend not to know
<Cyber-> apparently not
<Mobius`> to fulfill an agenda of yours
<Mobius`> Which I am betting on the latter
<Mobius`> Since you seem like the type to try and manipulate a situation
<Cyber-> so then what do you think i know
<Mobius`> I think you know enough that what you say to Strangle is pretty hilarious
<Mobius`> stick to the virus story
<Mobius`> It's more believable
<Mobius`> At least it was something I did do
<Mobius`> and something that's my fault
<Mobius`> entirely
<Mobius`> Which is why I never really contest the ban
<Cyber-> fair enough, i'll respect that
<Mobius`> As far as the benefit of having me unban
<Mobius`> Think about this
<Mobius`> Remember ST's clanscene during the beginning summer and during SICL
<Mobius`> when Ten ran it
<Mobius`> right into the ground
<Mobius`> Then suddenly we had a huge boom in clan activity
<Mobius`> Thank Cube for that
<Mobius`> and MS
<Mobius`> SOS as well
<Cyber-> ms won't play pro
<Mobius`> it doesn't have to
<Mobius`> but you don't understand
<Mobius`> it was because of those 3 clans
<Mobius`> ST had a clan scene
<Mobius`> with a huge clanwar event
<Mobius`> Stalin and I worked tirelessly to get shit going
<Mobius`> Think about it
<Cyber-> i'll keep that in mind
<Mobius`> but keep me ban because I don't care about ST
<Mobius`> I have IDL on the brain
<Mobius`> ZD takes up a lot of my free time
<Mobius`> So being banned is a benefit for me
<Cyber-> well then, in any case...if you do learn something more about the hack itself, feel free to let me know...if you feel like it