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- Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 07:32:41 -0700
- Delivered-To: greg@hbgary.com
- Message-ID: <AANLkTinlGUDjwybhPDAFO_1AQZ6CVGN7bxRHnuRgSKd_@mail.gmail.com>
- Subject: QNA Final (v2) attached, with proposal
- From: Greg Hoglund <greg@hbgary.com>
- To: Bob Slapnik <bob@hbgary.com>
- Cc: Phil Wallisch <phil@hbgary.com>, Penny Leavy-Hoglund <penny@hbgary.com>, rich@hbgary.com
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- The proposal is included in the PDF as an attachment. This is the final
- ready for delivery assuming you are OK with your numbers.
- -Greg
- On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Bob Slapnik <bob@hbgary.com> wrote:
- > I want Penny and Greg to bless the numbers before sending.
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- > *From:* Phil Wallisch [mailto:phil@hbgary.com]
- > *Sent:* Friday, May 14, 2010 9:07 AM
- > *To:* Greg Hoglund
- > *Cc:* Bob Slapnik; Penny Leavy-Hoglund; rich@hbgary.com
- > *Subject:* Re: QNA proposal
- >
- >
- >
- > I think we should submit it this morning as a draft final. When we get
- > their comments we can submit the true final. Bob you agree?
- >
- > Sent from my iPhone
- >
- >
- > On May 14, 2010, at 2:00, Greg Hoglund <greg@hbgary.com> wrote:
- >
- > Give me a final word doc in the morning, if I have it I will attach and
- > mail out a final PDF in the morning PST. If you don't want to wait, you =
- can
- > use the existing report I mailed out and just send the proposal as a seco=
- nd
- > doc. I got a few changes from penny on the report but they are not major
- > and wouldn't be that big if we didn't get them in. I will check for a fi=
- nal
- > proposal doc in the morning.
- >
- >
- >
- > -Greg
- >
- > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bob Slapnik <bob@hbgary.com> wrote:
- >
- > Penny,
- >
- >
- >
- > My objective was to have a baseline amount of money they pay us per month=
- .
- > Greg and I figured 3 malware per month with an average of 6 hours per
- > malware. That would be 3 x 6 =3D 18 for malware analysis, leaving 36 =96=
- 18 =3D
- > 18 hours to set up scans, reviewing scans, and writing reports. If they
- > have an outbreak of more malware, that is when we would charge them extra
- > with the open purchase order that we bill as needed.
- >
- >
- >
- > Greg, is 18 hours per month enough time to run normal operations, review
- > results, and write normal reports? If Greg says we need more than 18 hou=
- rs
- > on average, we can increase the number.
- >
- >
- >
- > I inserted a sentence in the fee section: . =93If QinetiQ has an increa=
- se
- > in the number of endpoints, for example if you purchase companies thereby
- > adding computers, then HBGary will reserve the right to increase the mont=
- hly
- > fee to cover software usage.=94
- >
- >
- >
- > The contract is specifically with QinetiQ North America so it doesn=92t
- > include Europe.
- >
- >
- >
- > Bob
- >
- >
- >
- > *From:* Penny Leavy-Hoglund [mailto:penny@hbgary.com]
- > *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:11 PM
- >
- >
- > *To:* 'Bob Slapnik'; 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Phil Wallisch'; rich@hbgary.com
- > *Subject:* RE: QNA proposal
- >
- >
- >
- > What happens if they grow? Is it only for Qinetiq US? What about Europe=
- ?
- > Are we limiting server to 2400 nodes? 3-4 would be 2 hours at least per
- > malware with report. 6-8 hours at $300 would be $2400 at the high end.
- > $2400 plus $4000 would be $6400 plus 8-10 hours per week would be $3K pe=
- r
- > week for 10, which would be $12K at 4 weeks plue $6400 would be $18400,
- > $4400 MORE than you bid
- >
- >
- >
- > *From:* Bob Slapnik [mailto:bob@hbgary.com]
- > *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:07 PM
- > *To:* 'Penny Leavy-Hoglund'; 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Phil Wallisch';
- > rich@hbgary.com
- > *Subject:* RE: QNA proposal
- >
- >
- >
- > Penny,
- >
- >
- >
- > Instead of saying =93rental=94 I will state that upon termination we will
- > remove the AD software.
- >
- >
- >
- > I figured the AD rental at $4k per month. Over 3 years that will be
- > $144k. They have 2400 hosts, but we may not be able to deploy to all of
- > them given the trouble we=92ve had so far. I should add a line that says=
- the
- > monthly amount could be renegotiated if they find they consistently need
- > more hours per month or if they add lots of new nodes, say through an
- > acquisition.
- >
- >
- >
- > MS has 60k nodes while QNA has 2k nodes. If MS has 17 malware per month =
- we
- > could assume QNA would have 17/30 =3D 0.57 per month. Greg and I figured=
- they
- > would have 3-4 per month which proportionally is lots more that MS.
- >
- >
- >
- > Bob
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- > *From:* Penny Leavy-Hoglund [mailto:penny@hbgary.com]
- > *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:38 PM
- > *To:* 'Bob Slapnik'; 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Phil Wallisch'; rich@hbgary.com
- > *Subject:* RE: QNA proposal
- >
- >
- >
- > What are we charging for Malware analysis. MS thought there would be 17
- > pieces a month for us to review, we could scale that back. But 8 hours a
- > week are monitoring and what is rental of software? You should make clea=
- r
- > it=92s rental, not owned by them. I think $14k per month is low
- >
- >
- >
- > *From:* Bob Slapnik [mailto:bob@hbgary.com]
- > *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:31 PM
- > *To:* 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Penny Leavy-Hoglund'; 'Phil Wallisch';
- > rich@hbgary.com
- > *Subject:* QNA proposal
- >
- >
- >
- > Team,
- >
- >
- >
- > Proposal is attached. Please review for accuracy. There is one small it=
- em
- > on page 2 marked in yellow that needs attention.
- >
- >
- >
- > I am printing it now and proof reading it.
- >
- >
- >
- > Bob Slapnik | Vice President | HBGary, Inc.
- >
- > Office 301-652-8885 x104 | Mobile 240-481-1419
- >
- > www.hbgary.com | bob@hbgary.com
- >
- >
- >
- > No virus found in this incoming message.
- > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
- > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: 05/13/10
- > 02:26:00
- >
- > No virus found in this incoming message.
- > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
- >
- > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: 05/13/10
- > 14:26:00
- >
- >
- >
- > No virus found in this incoming message.
- > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
- > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: 05/14/10
- > 02:26:00
- >
- >
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- <div><br>The proposal is included in the PDF as an attachment.=A0 This is t=
- he final ready for delivery assuming you are OK with your numbers.</div>
- <div>=A0</div>
- <div>-Greg</div>
- <div>=A0</div>
- <div>=A0</div>
- <div><br>=A0</div>
- <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Bob Slapnik <sp=
- an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bob@hbgary.com">bob@hbgary.com</a>>=
- </span> wrote:<br>
- <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
- ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
- <div lang=3D"EN-US" bgcolor=3D"white" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue">
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I wa=
- nt Penny and Greg to bless the numbers before sending.</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=A0<=
- /span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=A0<=
- /span></p>
- <div>
- <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING=
- -BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1p=
- t solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><=
- span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Phil Wallisch [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:phi=
- l@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">phil@hbgary.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Frida=
- y, May 14, 2010 9:07 AM<br>
- <b>To:</b> Greg Hoglund<br><b>Cc:</b> Bob Slapnik; Penny Leavy-Hoglund; <a =
- href=3D"mailto:rich@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">rich@hbgary.com</a><br><b=
- >Subject:</b> Re: QNA proposal</span></p></div></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think we should submit it this morning as a draft =
- final. =A0When we get their comments we can submit the true final. =A0Bob y=
- ou agree?<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</p></div>
- <div>
- <div></div>
- <div class=3D"h5">
- <div>
- <p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>On May 14, 2010, a=
- t 2:00, Greg Hoglund <<a href=3D"mailto:greg@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blan=
- k">greg@hbgary.com</a>> wrote:</p></div>
- <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
- <div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Give me a final word doc in the morning, if I have i=
- t I will attach and mail out a final PDF in the morning PST.=A0 If you don&=
- #39;t want to wait, you can use the existing report I mailed out and just s=
- end the proposal as a second doc.=A0 I got a few changes from penny on the =
- report but they are not major and wouldn't be that big if we didn't=
- get them in.=A0 I will check for a final proposal doc in the morning.</p>
- </div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div>
- <div>
- <p style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">-Greg</p></div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bob Slapnik <<a =
- href=3D"mailto:bob@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">bob@hbgary.com</a>> wro=
- te:</p>
- <div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Penny,</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">My objective was to h=
- ave a baseline amount of money they pay us per month.=A0 Greg and I figured=
- 3 malware per month with an average of 6 hours per malware.=A0 That would =
- be 3 x 6 =3D 18 for malware analysis, leaving 36 =96 18 =3D 18 hours to set=
- up scans, reviewing scans, and writing reports.=A0 If they have an outbrea=
- k of more malware, that is when we would charge them extra with the open pu=
- rchase order that we bill as needed.</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Greg, is 18 hours per=
- month enough time to run normal operations, review results, and write norm=
- al reports?=A0 If Greg says we need more than 18 hours on average, we can i=
- ncrease the number.</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">I inserted a sentence=
- in the fee section:=A0 </span><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3D"EN-G=
- B">.=A0 =93If QinetiQ has an increase in the number of endpoints, for examp=
- le if you purchase companies thereby adding computers, then HBGary will res=
- erve the right to increase the monthly fee to cover software usage.=94</spa=
- n></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">The contract is speci=
- fically with QinetiQ North America so it doesn=92t include Europe.</span></=
- p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Bob </span></p></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <div>
- <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING=
- -BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1p=
- t solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><=
- span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Penny Leavy-Hoglund [mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
- to:penny@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">penny@hbgary.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</=
- b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:11 PM </span></p>
- <div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><b>To:</b> 'Bob Slapnik'; 'Greg Hogl=
- und'; 'Phil Wallisch'; <a href=3D"mailto:rich@hbgary.com" targe=
- t=3D"_blank">rich@hbgary.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: QNA proposal</p></d=
- iv>
- </div></div></div>
- <div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">What happens if they =
- grow?=A0 Is it only for Qinetiq US?=A0 What about Europe?=A0 Are we limitin=
- g server to 2400 nodes? 3-4 would be 2 hours at least per malware with repo=
- rt.=A0 6-8 hours at $300 would be $2400 at the high end.=A0 $2400 plus $400=
- 0=A0 would be $6400 plus 8-10 hours per week would be $3K per week for 10, =
- which would be $12K at 4 weeks plue $6400 would be $18400, $4400 MORE than =
- you bid</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <div>
- <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING=
- -BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1p=
- t solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><=
- span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Bob Slapnik [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bob@h=
- bgary.com" target=3D"_blank">bob@hbgary.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,=
- May 13, 2010 2:07 PM<br>
- <b>To:</b> 'Penny Leavy-Hoglund'; 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Phil=
- Wallisch'; <a href=3D"mailto:rich@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">rich@h=
- bgary.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: QNA proposal</span></p></div></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Penny,</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Instead of saying =93=
- rental=94 I will state that upon termination we will remove the AD software=
- .</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">I figured the AD rent=
- al at $4k per month.=A0 Over 3 years that will be $144k.=A0 They have 2400 =
- hosts, but we may not be able to deploy to all of them given the trouble we=
- =92ve had so far.=A0 I should add a line that says the monthly amount could=
- be renegotiated if they find they consistently need more hours per month o=
- r if they add lots of new nodes, say through an acquisition.</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">MS has 60k nodes whil=
- e QNA has 2k nodes.=A0 If MS has 17 malware per month we could assume QNA w=
- ould have 17/30 =3D 0.57 per month.=A0 Greg and I figured they would have 3=
- -4 per month which proportionally is lots more that MS.</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Bob </span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <div>
- <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING=
- -BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1p=
- t solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><=
- span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Penny Leavy-Hoglund [mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
- to:penny@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">penny@hbgary.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</=
- b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:38 PM<br>
- <b>To:</b> 'Bob Slapnik'; 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Phil Wallisc=
- h'; <a href=3D"mailto:rich@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">rich@hbgary.co=
- m</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: QNA proposal</span></p></div></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">What are we charging =
- for Malware analysis.=A0 MS thought there would be 17 pieces a month for us=
- to review, we could scale that back.=A0 But 8 hours a week are monitoring =
- and what is rental of software?=A0 You should make clear it=92s rental, not=
- owned by them.=A0 I think $14k per month is low</span></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">=A0</span></p>
- <div>
- <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING=
- -BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1p=
- t solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><=
- span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Bob Slapnik [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bob@h=
- bgary.com" target=3D"_blank">bob@hbgary.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,=
- May 13, 2010 1:31 PM<br>
- <b>To:</b> 'Greg Hoglund'; 'Penny Leavy-Hoglund'; 'Phil=
- Wallisch'; <a href=3D"mailto:rich@hbgary.com" target=3D"_blank">rich@h=
- bgary.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> QNA proposal</span></p></div></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Team,</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Proposal is attached.=A0 Please review for accuracy.=
- =A0 There is one small item on page 2 marked in yellow that needs attention=
- .</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am printing it now and proof reading it.</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Slapnik=A0 |=A0 Vice President=A0 |=A0 HBGary, I=
- nc.</p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Office 301-652-8885 x104=A0 | Mobile 240-481-1419</p=
- >
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.hbgary.com/" target=3D"_blank"=
- >www.hbgary.com</a>=A0 |=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:bob@hbgary.com" target=3D"_bl=
- ank">bob@hbgary.com</a></p>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
- <p><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">No virus found in this incoming message.=
- <br>Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.=
- avg.com</a><br>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Da=
- te: 05/13/10 02:26:00</span></p>
- </div></div>
- <div>
- <div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked =
- by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a><=
- /p></div></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Re=
- lease Date: 05/13/10 14:26:00 </p></div></div></div>
- <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div></blockquote></div></div>
- <p><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
- <div>
- <div></div>
- <div class=3D"h5">No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AV=
- G - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a><br></=
- div></div>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2871 - Release Date: 0=
- 5/14/10 02:26:00</span>=20
- <p></p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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