#civil_debate: DumDum Edition

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10:35:03 AMdragoonMerry Christmas.
10:35:07 AM@Godricbrad70, and imported workers are sooooo cheap :)
10:36:26 AMⓘ IL_Shaman set mode +v dragoon
10:36:32 AM@Godricwith all that money the farmers are gonna get with trumps super duper tax cut they should start innovating and making the jobs more attractive to workers
10:36:39 AM+dragoonWe have to say Merry Christmas now.
10:37:36 AM+NaughtyCanidIts the 12th of january dipshit
10:37:41 AM@Godrici dunno... you pay someone enough money they will do it
10:38:13 AM@Godric^
10:39:30 AM+NaughtyCanidsexbee: That the reason I give to my mother why I haven't put don't my christmas tree yet
10:39:31 AM@Godrichttp://nfwm.org/education-center/farm-worker-issues/low-wages/
10:39:43 AM@GodricMost farm workers are paid based how many buckets or bags they pick of whatever crop they harvest�this is known as the �piece rate.� Payment in this format has some drawbacks.
10:40:07 AM@GodricAdditionally, it�s possible for a farm worker being paid by piece rate to make less than the minimum wage. For instance, the piece rate for orange juice in Florida is 85 cents per 90-pound box of oranges. Average productivity for a worker is 8 boxes per hour, which means that during an 8-hour workday, a worker will produce 64 boxes of oranges (or 5,760 pounds of oranges!). According to the 85 cents piece rate, a worker would receive only $6.80 an hour, whic
10:40:34 AM+dragoonNaughtyCanid: I am sorry.
10:40:37 AM+dragoonHappy Holidays.
10:40:51 AM+NaughtyCaniddragoon: What for?
10:41:00 AM+dragoonFor saying that bad phrase.
10:41:05 AM@GodricFL is a bit more conservative isnt it
10:41:14 AM@Godricmakes sense they would pay less then
10:41:20 AM+NaughtyCaniddragoon: What bad phrase?
10:41:33 AM+dragoon"Merry Christmas"
10:42:17 AM+NaughtyCaniddragoon: Nothing bad about about that.  I love christmas.
10:42:21 AM@Godricchoot, where?
10:42:36 AM@GodricI guess
10:42:43 AM+dragoonI understand, NaughtyCanid.
10:42:46 AM* dragoon scratches nose
10:42:57 AM+NaughtyCaniddragoon:  It's just its january
10:43:08 AM@Godricwell wherever could mean mexico
10:43:16 AM+dragoonNo, Christmas is mostly in December.
10:43:20 AM@Godricor chilie
10:43:21 AM+dragoonThe primary celebration.
10:43:43 AM@Godricwhen i look at produce i often find a lot of it comes from Chilie
10:43:51 AM@Godriceven all the way up here in MN
10:44:02 AM+NaughtyCaniddragoon: Suits me.  I still have mince pies and cream.
10:44:57 AM+dragoonI guess mince pies are vegetarian.
10:45:15 AM@Godricanyhow... farming is one of those industrys that america is trying to hold on to but its economy naturally makes it pretty difficult to maintain
10:45:26 AM+dragoonI don't eat things with meat in them.
10:45:34 AM+dragoonOr things that are trying to look like meat.
10:45:37 AM+dragoonMeat is gross.
10:45:39 AM@Godricat least when it comes to farming that requires low wage pickers
10:46:24 AM+NaughtyCanidMost mince pies are vegetatiran
10:46:28 AM@Godriccorn and soy and crops that can be just delt with via automation
10:46:34 AM@Godricthose will stick around
10:47:12 AM+NaughtyCanidI still have half a ton of cheese and doritoes left over from christmas
10:47:35 AM@Godricstrawberrys, or things like that... we will just rely on import if you arnt paying local premium for those crops
10:47:37 AM+NaughtyCanidGod I hate cheese (usually I like cheese)
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10:50:36 AM+dragoonDonald Trump has chewed an awful lot of cheese.
10:50:39 AM+NaughtyCanidGood,  why arn't you brad70?
10:50:52 AM+NaughtyCanidDo you hate capitalism?
10:52:58 AM+NaughtyCanidDo you hate that the hmongs an vietnamenese are doing now?
10:53:05 AM@Godrickids wanna work smarter not harder now
10:53:12 AM@Godriccant blame them
10:53:34 AM+NaughtyCanidGood
10:54:35 AM@Godrici dunno... i get it working a shit job is good to like put that impression on kids 'you dont wanna do this crap for the rest of your life do ya?'
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10:54:49 AM+dragoonKids should have the same experience as me when I was a kid.
10:54:56 AM+dragoonOtherwise, my suffering will be invalidated.
10:54:56 AMⓘ IL_Shaman set mode +v pheno
10:54:57 AM@Godricwell working smarter dosnt mean its 'easier'
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10:56:05 AM@Godricnot at all
10:56:19 AM@Godricplenty of kids have skills
10:56:41 AM@Godricthey are just skills for the emerging industrys
10:56:53 AM+NaughtyCanidYes.  Because I am not working down the mines eating coal like my father, does not mean I do not work just as hard
10:57:23 AM+dragoonIt makes a lot of sense to engage brad70.
10:57:44 AM@Godricchoot might be part of it... might just be kids wanna get a job that dosnt require a shower after you are done with a days work
10:57:48 AM+dragoonI find his viewpoints to be cogent, but nuanced.
10:57:54 AM+NaughtyCanidI am not my father, I am a computer programmer.  And I am very capable of marrying your daughters.
10:57:59 AM@Godric41
10:58:35 AM@GodricDR, Lawyer, ya
10:59:08 AM@Godricsure
10:59:17 AM@Godricwell
10:59:20 AM@Godricflipping burgers
10:59:46 AM@Godricchoot dunno, how many
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11:00:23 AM@Godricstarting off flipping burgers isnt looked down upon
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11:00:58 AM@Godrici dont agree
11:01:14 AM@Godricwe were taught to not settle for just flipping burgers
11:01:14 AM+NaughtyCanidMy father was the strongest man I ever knew.  There is a story of him lifting a big man with a single arm.
11:01:17 AM@Godricfor your career
11:01:26 AM+NaughtyCanidHE was a brick layer.
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11:02:20 AM+dragoonThis is embarrassing.
11:02:25 AM+dragoonNobody cares about your dad.
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11:02:31 AM+NaughtyCanidI, his son, am a computer programmer.  The most feeble limp wristed man you could know.
11:02:53 AM+NaughtyCanidI earn 10x he did and I will marry your daughter.
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11:03:44 AM Ignoring NaughtyCanid!*@*
11:03:48 AM+dragoonNaughtyCanid: I put you on ignore.
11:04:04 AM+dragoonReason: You're currently defending your honor to a 72-year old senile DumDum.
11:04:16 AM× You have been kicked by choot (you're literally contributing nothing. You're wasting the internet's bandwith, go away.)
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11:04:29 AMdragoonRecommendation: Acquisition of perspective.
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