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- [22:31] AO: i have something you'll kek about
- [22:31] AO: maybe
- [22:31] FF: could be
- [22:31] AO: http://pastebin.com/hfjAzWGg
- [22:31] AO: the list of GA's powers in there somewhere
- [22:31] AO: and you will laugh
- [22:31] FF: i mean
- [22:31] FF: i KNOW this guy
- [22:31] FF: his name is like sanderson or something and he was a guy from dream_hive
- [22:32] AO: i've heard ABOUT him
- [22:32] AO: but no one will tell me shit
- [22:32] FF: and he is the sole reason for callingRPers plummeting from being 'mostly okay' to 'a complete train wreck'
- [22:32] FF: just for doing exactly this
- [22:32] AO: having a super OP mary sue?
- [22:32] FF: he never really explains anything he just gives you the runaround with fake-smart language that makes stupid people blindly agree because they dont want to look stupid by asking you wtf they said
- [22:32] FF: they just nod and go "ah yes. of course."
- [22:33] AO: see. CR said the same thing to me when i showed them the logs.
- [22:33] FF: basically he showed up with a prince of heart and
- [22:33] FF: his idea of 'prince of heart' was a guy who stole peoples souls and as a result all of their powers
- [22:33] AO: ... so he's that guy
- [22:33] AO: i've heard about that guy
- [22:33] FF: so he just walked around stealing souls and nobody could ever counter it because he would always start going off about "HOW DO YOU RESIST OR DODGE THAT??"
- [22:34] FF: so he just kept getting away with it because the keyholder was a sheep that just did whatever anyone told them to fit in
- [22:34] FF: and he wound up making it so the entire memo had to make ridiculously overpowered characters in order to just get any interaction
- [22:34] FF: so ileft
- [22:34] AO: :T wow. he mentioned amara, a witch of mind, mimicking a prince of heart's powers
- [22:34] AO: to steal a horrorterror soul
- [22:35] FF: apparnetly, according to him, a heart hero can take someones soul. which like, MAYBE, depending?
- [22:35] AO: a Thief
- [22:35] AO: But Heart doesn't pertain to soul
- [22:35] FF: but he also thinks that the god tier has to do with the soul
- [22:35] AO: just emotions
- [22:35] FF: so if you steal a soul you can just take their god tier
- [22:35] FF: idk i think heart is souls and RAGE is emotions tbh
- [22:35] AO: rage is negative emotions
- [22:35] AO: heart is the like
- [22:35] AO: essence of who you are
- [22:35] AO: as a person
- [22:36] AO: personality and shit
- [22:36] FF: i just sorta go wiht heart=soul rage=emotion
- [22:36] FF: i tend not to use god tiers at all though
- [22:36] AO: i try not to
- [22:36] AO: but this guy forces me to bring in my GTed characters
- [22:37] FF: just tell him that he acn either tone it the fuck down or he can adapt the character to fit the setting
- [22:37] AO: he also tried to tell me humans had magic in homestuck
- [22:37] AO: c':
- [22:37] AO: and we argued in circles about that
- [22:37] FF: im not a mod but i tried to slap it into him but i can guarantee that people had been kissing his ass for long enough that hes just used to getting what he wants
- [22:37] FF: and he wont change unless you /make him/
- [22:38] AO: i recommended he bring in another character tbh
- [22:39] AO: i've heard so much about this guy. i s2g.
- [22:39] AO: no one ever dropped any names
- [22:39] FF: i just think its adorable that he thinks that not directly being involved in his personal plot is like
- [22:40] FF: it means were not doing anything or boring
- [22:40] AO: i've dropped hints for him to like, do OTHER plots
- [22:40] AO: like i have 3 plots i'm managing on the side with my own characters
- [22:40] AO: and he's welcome as fuck to join in on that but like, what the fuck
- [22:40] FF: if you pay attention i didnt say a damn word about it until AFTER she resisted the time thing
- [22:40] AO: am i supposed to mold my memo aroudn what he wants
- [22:40] AO: was my wording off btw? on that time attack?
- [22:40] FF: i was totally rolling with it until i realized his character was bullshit
- [22:41] FF: no, it wasnt, he just said that to save face and try not to look like a dick
- [22:41] AO: this is the... 2nd or 3rd time we've had huge discussions about this character. and i probably won't ban it, but. i already warned him he's likely to just get ignored ICly
- [22:42] FF: this guy is literally the guy that WL learned how to make characters from
- [22:43] AO: ..... is it
- [22:43] FF: like i said if i were an op in a memo that he was in i would tell him that he needs to like
- [22:44] AO: really
- [22:44] FF: SEVERELY narrow it dow
- [22:44] FF: n
- [22:44] FF: and yeah it is
- [22:44] FF: thats why i said i was having deja vu
- [22:44] AO: i told him that, tbh. pick, a handful of powers. and stick to them.
- [22:44] FF: because this is the same fucking conversation people have had with WL 14 times
- [22:44] FF: and thats because
- [22:44] FF: sanderson is the guy WL learned to make characters from!
- [22:44] AO: sigh
- [22:44] AO: i'm glad i moved away from OP super powered bullshit
- [22:45] FF: but yeah
- [22:45] FF: suggestion is to just nip AA in the bud
- [22:45] FF: dont let him get away with this shit just tell him outright that he can either edit the character to fit the setting, make a new character, or get going
- [22:45] FF: or else hell just keep getting worse and worse
- [22:46] FF: and then more OP people will show up because they want to be able to beat up his character, then more OP people, then more, and more, and more.
- [22:46] AO: yeah. i reopened NR to get away from the OP bullshit in HT
- [22:46] AO: and all that.. magic.. demon angel... mutant.
- [22:46] AO: bullshit
- [22:47] FF: [05:11] AA: The Horror Terror was named "Endless" though.
- [22:47] FF: endless was the character the keyholder of dreamhive made to basiclaly be the most op thing in the room
- [22:47] AO: :T i was like nah dude. nah. only Void players and grimdark people get anything from the HTs
- [22:47] AO: whAT
- [22:47] AO: no
- [22:47] AO: noooo
- [22:47] AO: and the keyholder just let him
- [22:48] AO: omfg
- [22:48] FF: keyholder made the same character over and over, different characters but the same person more or less
- [22:48] FF: keyholder made endless, ursula was sandersons bullshit character and 'andy' was the prince of heart that stole god tier powers. so he just had every god tier power by the end of things
- [22:49] FF: like im telling you right now if you dont tell him ASAP to cut the shit hell keep going
- [22:50] AO: .... why do people make characters that interact with each other
- [22:50] AO: like
- [22:50] AO: just to further your own plot
- [22:50] AO: write a book
- [22:50] AO: this isn't how you RP
- [22:50] AO: i mean it's ok
- [22:50] AO: to some extent
- [22:51] FF: but, you know im just saying
- [22:51] AO: i didn't know you even knew this dude lmao
- [22:51] AO: no wonder he doesn't like the name sanderson going around
- [22:51] FF: hes going to keep doing this and hes going to keep doing the whole 'im so smart!!' thing
- [22:51] FF: hes really
- [22:51] FF: REALLY fucking stupid
- [22:52] FF: like hes just this teenager with a colossal superiority complex that talks like this so people wont bother questioning what he says because it 'sounds smart'
- [22:52] AO: i'm glad im not the only one
- [22:52] FF: and anyone who criticizes or disagrees with him he just tells them they 'dont understand my muse'
- [22:52] AO: thta thought that
- [22:52] AO: the talking thing
- [22:52] AO: i was like
- [22:52] AO: "you make me feel fucking stupid"
- [22:52] AO: but i'm NOT stupid
- [22:53] AO: and i know i'm not
- [22:53] FF: hes doing that on purpose
- [22:53] FF: manipulation tactics and whatnot
- [22:53] AO: CR said the same thing
- [22:53] FF: he uses big smart-sounding words to make other people feel dumb in comparison so you just assume what hes saying is right
- [22:54] FF: literally i used to do the same thing when i was like 15
- [22:54] AO: >n> how old is he? do you know?
- [22:54] FF: like 18-19?
- [22:54] FF: maybe 17, but i think 18
- [22:55] AO: i kind of want UA's opinion but i think he's friends with the dude
- [22:55] FF: ive bene trying to figure out who UA is
- [22:56] AO: Justin
- [22:56] FF: because i knew just about everyone who regulared dream hive because everoyne in it was too much of a cunt for anyone else to hang out with them or stay there too long
- [22:56] FF: im not sure who justin is so im assuming its someone i DO know that is calling themselves something else
- [22:57] FF: like maybe its dice or smth
- [22:57] FF: dice is generally okay, really, but sanderson has a direct link to his brain when it comes to manipulation
- [22:57] AO: as far as i know he's used seth over there too
- [22:57] AO: dice came by
- [22:57] AO: actually
- [22:57] AO: and then left
- [22:57] AO: because the trolls weren't "troll" enough
- [22:57] FF: dice is alright
- [22:58] FF: yeah idk who UA is honestly, they might ave showed up after i left
- [22:59] FF: i left in the middle of a plot i had going because the keyholder was the guy who was a part of it, and they were fucking ruining it so much
- [22:59] AO: jesus. that place sounds rough.
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