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- Klefsas??: Greetings
- Klefsas??: France don`t want to play 2nd map with us
- Klefsas??: What we should to do?
- Klefsas??: Hello
- kKaltUu: check steam chat
- Klefsas??: With you?
- kKaltUu: I invited you to a chat
- Klefsas??: M...
- Klefsas??: I see nothing
- Klefsas??: Resend invite
- Klefsas??: Plz
- kKaltUu: can you invite me and mista to chat?
- Your chat with kKaltUu is now a multi-user chat.
- Mista entered chat.
- kKaltUu: Hi, the other games are getting DDoSed too
- kKaltUu: I'd like to reschedule games to an unknown date (for the public) so you can play in peace
- kKaltUu: the map being played now is steel, right?
- Mista: yep
- Klefsas??: Yes
- kKaltUu: I want to agree on another date to play, and post an admin comment on the match page
- kKaltUu: so the general public doesn't know that it'll be played
- kKaltUu: so what days are you available to play?
- Mista: sunday
- kKaltUu: I want at least 2 days before sunday
- kKaltUu: so wednesday - thursday - friday - saturday
- Mista: i would like to ask ppl but they offline
- Klefsas??: Wait please, let my team speak to you
- kKaltUu: sunday is the very last day so I'd like to schedule it a bit earlier
- Klefsas??: why do you want to reshedule this? there was no server ddos
- Klefsas??: and they had every merc they needed and 50 min pauses
- Klefsas??: they had 9 ppl in and we played as usual
- Klefsas??: after 1 hour and 40 min. of playing one map they suddenly cant play
- Klefsas??: we allowed a NON rostered merc and gave them pauses over 30 min.
- Klefsas??: i dont think there is a need of resheduling since only ONE guy got ddosed and the other one timed out, got every merc they needed.
- Klefsas??: where is the problem now?
- Mista: the server was ddosed
- kKaltUu: all the matches have been plagued with technical issues, anyone watching any of the matches can see this isn't what we want. ETF2L does not have any servers to provide, so rescheduling and making sure matches are drawn-out pausefests looks like the only sensible solution.
- Mista: nico and izzy were both ddosed
- Mista: we played 8v9 for a long time and then we went offclassing so the game could go on
- Mista: but after a point, it's just too much
- Mista: when a 30 min map lasts for 1 hour 40 minutes
- Mista: everyone is exhausted and frustrated
- Mista: there's no point in playing anymore in those conditions
- Mista: we are ok to play on saturday
- lippy entered chat.
- Klefsas??: yo mista, as i speak for my team, they dont see a point of resheduling that match
- Klefsas??: since we played fair , you had one guy getting ddosed and one timed out
- Klefsas??: we allowed every merc , gave you pauses over 30 min.
- Klefsas??: you had 9 ppl on the server, we had one ddos which was fixed instantly and we continued without problems
- Klefsas??: Mista: the server was ddosed ; we had a 10 sec SERVER ddos and fixed it with a new server and finished the map
- Klefsas??: with 9v9
- Mista: you allowed one merc, not "every merc" btw
- Klefsas??: You asked for 1
- Mista: i dont see where you guys are going ?
- Mista: you want default win ?
- Mista: you won that map if it's that you're afraid of
- Klefsas??: we have server, this server is works fine, we have full rouster, you refuse to play
- Mista: we don't dispute that you won the map even under those poor circumstances I stated
- lippy: i don't wanted def win, but we played proc and waited 50 mins in pause
- Klefsas??: And you used 3 or 4 pauses
- lippy: and i personaly don't want same shit in some other day
- Mista: and you were very comprehensive
- Mista: that's why admins planned to play that game on a "secret" date
- Mista: no one will know the time except us
- Klefsas??: No reason to play this game on "secret" date
- Klefsas??: Cos we have WORKED server
- Klefsas??: You just should come and play second map
- Klefsas??: And don`t blame server DDOS
- Klefsas??: Cos only your players was DDOSed
- Klefsas??: And after server started to lag, we changet it
- Mista: the server was ddosed
- Klefsas??: And continued to play
- Klefsas??: And you hade no complanes
- Mista: yes, and finished the map
- Mista: but that's the last map we would play under those conditions for one night
- Klefsas??: But now you loose and you want to change the date, but i saying to you
- Klefsas??: WE HAVE
- Klefsas??: SERVEr
- Klefsas??: Come and play
- Mista: people had to leave, a map isn't supposed to last 2 hours
- Klefsas??: Yes, you hade no rights to take 40 min pause
- kKaltUu: Klefsas is right, you are entitled to 5 minutes of pausing
- lippy: i don't wanted def win
- lippy: but
- kKaltUu: But on the other hand all matches tonight are plagued with ddossing.
- Mista: ddos are exceptional circumstances
- lippy: we waited 50 mins in pause
- lippy: changed server
- lippy: did everything for you
- kKaltUu: The only reasonable thing for me to do is to ask for a replay on a different date.
- Klefsas??: The thing is that we played fine
- lippy: and we just don't wanted to play another 2 houes game in some other day
- Klefsas??: Our server was DDOSED, right. But we take another and finished process there
- Klefsas??: And you, Mista, say nothing
- lippy: i'm just madd coz of the fact what you just leave
- Klefsas??: But after procces you just leave, right
- lippy: after we did all of this
- Mista: i said brb, i went to talk with kkaltuu
- lippy: ok
- Klefsas??: And left my team on server without DDOS
- Mista: i left the game to open steam friends
- Mista: otherwise they would have gotten the ip of the new server
- lippy: so, what we gonna do kkaltuu?
- Klefsas??: We played whole process without DDOS, cos after it starts we changet server and all was fine.
- Klefsas??: And we should play steel on that server
- Mista: not true klefsas
- kKaltUu: give me two dates your team is able to play on this week.
- kKaltUu: overlapping day will be the day steel gets to be played on.
- Mista: so no sunday?
- Mista: sunday saturday would be good
- Mista: otherwise friday saturday
- kKaltUu: I'd rather have it earlier, if not then ut's sunday
- kKaltUu: Klefsas please tell me which days you are submitting
- Klefsas??: Not easy task, you know
- Klefsas??: We can only on sunday\
- kKaltUu: Ok, I'll make a note for sunday
- Mista: wait we can't sunday after all
- Mista: razer cup..
- kKaltUu: RIP
- Klefsas??: But it`s not actualy fair. We don`t play now not cos of DDOS
- Mista: ddos is never fair bro
- Klefsas??: But cos you just don`t whant to
- Klefsas??: And you broke rulles a few times
- Mista: sorry klefsas but yes we DONT WANT to play under these circumstances
- Klefsas??: I just imagine if we was swaped
- Klefsas??: Don`t think this chat would ever exist
- kKaltUu: can't you skip the razer cup?
- Klefsas??: You don`t want to play not cos of DDOS, cos we have good server.
- Mista: that's unfair to say that klefsas, how would you even know
- Klefsas??: You hade 40 min pause
- Klefsas??: You pause the game 4 times
- Klefsas??: You hade your merks
- Klefsas??: And now, we talking about another date?
- Klefsas??: I JUST IMAGINE
- kKaltUu: I expect some leniency from you Mista
- Klefsas??: If Team Ukraine did all this
- Klefsas??: Maby we should stick with rulles
- Klefsas??: ?
- Klefsas??: I see your position
- Klefsas??: You don`t want to play cos of DDOS
- Klefsas??: BUT< AGAIN
- Klefsas??: You just leave from good server
- Klefsas??: And don`t want to play without serious reason
- kKaltUu: the problem is that you can't expect someone to say for 1.5 hours if a match is supposed to take 1 hour max.
- Mista: half of our players had to leave
- Klefsas??: Yes but that match was so long cos of 40 min pause
- Klefsas??: Not cos of server DDOS
- Mista: which happened because players got ddosed
- Klefsas??: You right, players
- Klefsas??: Players =\= games
- Klefsas??: Am I right, Kkaltuu?
- kKaltUu: both of you have some points, but france isn't handling this as they should atm.
- Mista: how are we supposed to handle that
- Klefsas??: The point is that we finished 1st map. Server wasn`t DDOSed. We changed map. Team France leave.
- Klefsas??: If Team refuse to play
- Klefsas??: Team looses
- Klefsas??: Cos server had no DDOS
- lippy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- Klefsas??: And I don`t even need to show all you rulle brakings
- Klefsas??: To take this match
- kKaltUu: this is a special situation, hence I want to have you guys play it on another date. nobody could have foreseen the first map would take an hour extra and forcing players to play under such cirumstances is just plain stupid
- Klefsas??: Why this is special situation?
- Klefsas??: We played so long because Team France had 40 min pause
- Klefsas??: Why we should play this game again?
- Klefsas??: Cos Team France don`t want to play it today?
- Mista: and why we had a pause ?
- Klefsas??: Cos your player hade bad connection
- Mista: he got ddosed
- Klefsas??: But wen that was a "special situation"?
- Klefsas??: Just take a merk
- lippy left chat.
- Klefsas??: And keep playing
- Mista: it's an unfinishable "discussion"
- Klefsas??: And you did it
- Klefsas??: No, it is
- Mista: we did it just to get over with that map
- Mista: and we shouldnt have tbh
- Mista: playing 8v9, offclassing
- Klefsas??: Just agree with fact that you used pause 4 times and that takes 40 minutes
- kKaltUu: your roster should be your responsibility mista
- Klefsas??: Just agree with that fact that we allowed you all merks
- kKaltUu: you're entitled to 5 minutes of pausing, anything agove that is courteous of UA
- Klefsas??: Agree with fact, that we had good server and finished process without DDOS
- Mista: we never denied their comprehensiveness
- Mista: but now it looks like more default hunting
- Klefsas??: Is looks like you make alot of mistakes
- Klefsas??: And now trying to avoid punishment
- Mista: what mistakes lol?
- Mista: hahaha "punishment"
- Klefsas??: hahaha
- Klefsas??: Funny guy
- Mista: i'm sorry but i don't want to "discus" with you anymore bro
- kKaltUu: stop bitching and think of solutions
- Mista: solutions are friday and saturday
- Mista: those are our days
- Klefsas??: I don`t see a reason to change the match date and play it again
- Klefsas??: Cos Team France can`t play only cos they don`t want to
- Klefsas??: There is nothing special wi players got DDOSed
- Klefsas??: I just can`t acept fact that ETF2L administration want to change match date only cos FR team don`t want to finish it on scheduled date
- Klefsas??: Even
- Klefsas??: Cos we played process too long
- Klefsas??: BUT
- Klefsas??: Why?
- Klefsas??: Cos of 40 min pause for team FR
- Klefsas??: Do I need to copy paste rulles here?
- kKaltUu: at the start of this conversation it wasn't a matter of don't want to, but straight out can't. it's 1 hr later so any chance of it still being played is gone
- Klefsas??: My team can play it
- Klefsas??: Even now
- Klefsas??: Ant its not technocal or our problems that team FR refuse to play it
- Klefsas??: And its not technical*
- Klefsas??: If you refusing to play the match without a serious reason, so what?
- Klefsas??: How many games was reschedulet cos of reasons like this
- Klefsas??: ?
- kKaltUu: all of them
- Klefsas??: Reason: Team don`t want to play
- Klefsas??: ??|}
- Klefsas??: We had no DDos problems
- Klefsas??: We changet server and finished the process
- Mista: zzzzzz
- kKaltUu: so I take it you don't want to reschedule, do you want to claim a default win?
- Klefsas??: Yes
- kKaltUu: Ok, will make a match complaint.
- Klefsas??: What complain?
- kKaltUu: will let you know what we decide on, good night bot of you
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