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  3. HOTEL CLERK: Lord Keynes! Welcome, sir. It's a pleasure.
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  7. KEYNES: The pleasure's all mine.
  8. CLERK: Your agenda--
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  12. KEYNES: That won't be necessary. I am the agenda. CLERK: [laughs]
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  16. KEYNES: Tell them I've arrived--
  17. HAYEK: And then tell them I've arrived.
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  21. CLERK: And, your name is?
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  25. HAYEK: Hayek. F.A. Hayek. With an "H".
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  29. KEYNES: Freddy. (yeah) Keynes. Hey, listen, party at the Fed.
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  33. HAYEK: Already? KEYNES: Twenty minutes. Lobby.
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  37. John Maynard Keynes. F.A. Hayek.
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  41. KEYNES: Yeah, we're opposed
  42. HAYEK: We oppose each other philosophically
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  46. KEYNES: In the same studio
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  50. We've been going back and forth for a century
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  54. KEYNES: I want to steer markets
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  58. HAYEK: I want them set free
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  62. There's a boom and bust cycle, and good reason
  63. to fear it
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  67. HAYEK: Blame low interest rates
  68. KEYNES: No... it's the animal spirits
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  72. John Maynard Keynes wrote the book on modern macro The man you need when the economy's off track
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  76. Depression, recession, Now your question's in session
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  80. Have a seat and I'll school you in one simple lesson
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  84. Boom! 1929: the big crash, We didn't bounce back, economy's in the trash
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  88. Persistent unemployment, the result of sticky wages, Waiting for recovery? (Seriously?) That's outrageous
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  92. I had a real plan any fool can understand, The advice real simple: boost aggregate demand!
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  96. C, I, G, altogether gets to Y, Keep that total growing, watch the economy fly
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  100. We've been going back and forth for a century
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  104. KEYNES: I want to steer markets
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  107. HAYEK: I want them set free
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  111. There's a boom and bust cycle, and good reason to fear it.
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  115. HAYEK: Blame low interest rates
  116. KEYNES: No... it's the animal spirits
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  120. You see it's all about spending, Hear the register cha-ching
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  124. Circular flow, The dough is everything
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  128. So if that flow is getting low, It doesn't matter the reason
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  132. We need more government spending, Now it's stimulus season
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  136. So forget about saving, Get it straight out of your head
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  140. Like I said, "In the long run, we're all dead"
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  144. Savings is destruction, that's the paradox of thrift, Don't keep money in your pocket or that growth will never lift, because
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  148. Business is driven by the animal spirits, The bull and the bear and there's reasons to fear
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  152. It's effects on capital investment, income, and growth That's why the state should fill the gap, with stimulus both
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  156. The monetary and the fiscal, they're equally correct Public works, digging ditches, war has the same effect
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  160. Even a broken window helps the glass man have some wealth The multiplier driving higher the economy's health
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  164. And if the Central Bank's interest rate policy tanks A liquidity trap, that new money's stuck in the banks!
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  168. Deficits could be the cure, you been looking for Let the spending soar, now that you know the score
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  172. My General Theory's made quite an impression [a revolution] I transformed the econ profession
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  176. You know me, modesty, still I'm taking a bow Say it loud, say it proud, we're all Keynesians now
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  180. We've been goin' back and forth for a century
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  184. KEYNES: I want to steer markets,
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  188. HAYEK: I want them set free
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  192. There's a boom and bust
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  197. KEYNES: I made my case, Freddie H
  198. Listen up , Can you hear it?
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  202. HAYEK: I'll begin in broad strokes, just like my friend Keynes His theory conceals the mechanics of change
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  206. That simple equation, too much aggregation Ignores human action and motivation
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  210. And yet it continues as a justification For bailouts and payoffs by pols with machinations
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  214. You provide them with cover to sell us a free lunch Then all that we're left with is debt, and a bunch
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  218. If you're living high on that cheap credit hog Don't look for cure from the hair of the dog
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  222. Real savings come first if you want to invest The market coordinates time with interest
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  226. Your focus on spending is pushing on thread In the long run, my friend, it's your theory that's dead
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  230. So sorry there, buddy, if that sounds like invective Prepare to get schooled in my Austrian perspective
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  234. We've been going back and forth for a century
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  238. KEYNES: I want to steer markets,
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  243. There's a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
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  247. HAYEK: Blame low interest rates.
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  252. The place you should study isn't the bust It's the boom that should make you feel leery, that's the thrust
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  256. Of my theory, the capital structure is key. Malinvestments wreck the economy
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  260. The boom gets started with an expansion of credit The Fed sets rates low, are you starting to get it?
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  264. That new money is confused for real loanable funds But it's just inflation that's driving the ones
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  268. Who invest in new projects like housing construction The boom plants the seeds for its future destruction
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  272. The savings aren't real, consumption's up too And the grasping for resources reveals there's too few
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  275. So the boom turns to bust as the interest rates rise With the costs of production, price signals were lies
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  279. The boom was a binge that's a matter of fact Now its devalued capital that makes up the slack.
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  283. Whether it's the late twenties or two thousand and five Booming bad investments, seems like they'd thrive
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  287. You must save to invest, don't use the printing press Or a bust will surely follow, an economy depressed
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  291. Your so-called "stimulus" will make things even worse It's just more of the same, more incentives perversed
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  295. And that credit crunch ain't a liquidity trap Just a broke banking system, I'm done, that's a wrap.
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  299. We've been goin' back and forth for a century
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  303. KEYNES: I want to steer markets,
  304. HAYEK: I want them set free
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  308. There's a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
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  312. HAYEK: Blame low interest rates.
  313. KEYNES: No it's the animal spirits
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