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Racist Freenode oper James "njan" Eaton-Lee

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  1. 10:52 Meepsheep: ummm excuse me?
  2. 10:53 njan: See https://www.freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic
  3. 10:53 njan: I suspect I don't have to explain why GNAA channels are perhaps not topical on freenode.
  4. 10:53 Meepsheep: You have asked Firefox to connect
  5. 10:53 Meepsheep: securely to www.freenode.net, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely,
  6. 10:53 Meepsheep: sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are
  7. 10:53 Meepsheep: going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.
  8. 10:53 njan: As I've suggested to your compatriot, I'd recommend support@freenode.net if you're genuinely unhappy about this.
  9. 10:53 Meepsheep: not going to continue to possibly unsafe site
  10. 10:53 Meepsheep: however, yes it was a development channel
  11. 10:53 njan: It's a cacert certificate, you might trust their root CA, or if you object to that, s/https/http/
  12. 10:53 Meepsheep: and another staff member had ok'd it beforehand
  13. 10:54 njan: That seems rather unlikely.
  14. 10:54 Meepsheep: do you require logs of this?
  15. 10:54 njan: You're welcome to send them to me, and I can try and help clear up the misunderstanding.
  16. 10:55 Meepsheep: k one minute
  17. 10:55 njan: Either way, the channel certainly isn't topical, though, and support@freenode.net would be the best place to pursue the matter if you're genuinely unhappy about it; we're not really likely to change our collective minds, however, as GNAA channels are very much not relevant or appropriate on freenode.
  18. 10:56 Meepsheep: http://pastebin.com/dRxMisWy
  19. 10:57 njan: "gnaa-related stuff isn't really ontopic for this network, i'm sure you know this"
  20. 10:57 njan: So no, not really permission :)
  21. 10:57 Meepsheep: but it was nevertheless allowed
  22. 10:57 njan: No, a staffer chose to idle in the channel.
  23. 10:57 njan: No-one gave you permission, tacit or otherwise, to remain.
  24. 10:58 njan: And even if they had, your channel was still not appropriate here, so it's perhaps unfortunate you felt you'd been given permission but doesn't really change our policy.
  25. 10:58 njan: SOrry.
  26. 10:58 Meepsheep: that is fine
  27. 10:59 njan: the GNAA have their own IRC server, perhaps you'd be happier there.
  28. 11:00 Meepsheep: this freenode seems to be the place to be for these open source projects however
  29. 11:00 Meepsheep: i felt it fitting, seeing as sister project "ubuntu" is here as well
  30. 11:00 njan: Genuine and not disingenuous or trollish ones, certainly. :)
  31. 11:04 Meepsheep: "disingenuous or trollish"
  32. 11:04 Meepsheep: excuse me?
  33. 11:04 njan: Sorry, what's unclear?
  34. 11:05 Meepsheep: what is that statement supposed to mean?
  35. 11:06 njan: That whilst free and open source software projects are our bread and butter, that doesn't mean that by stating that's what you are, you get to be offensive, racist, illegal, or otherwise inappropriate.
  36. 11:06 Meepsheep: we are none of those
  37. 11:07 Meepsheep: are you a racist sir?
  38. 11:07 njan: And it looks to me that your project is less about free software and more about masquerading as free software in order to troll. Or creating trollish free software. Or some other permutation that makes you not really appropriate on freenode. Hence "disingenuous or trollish". Or both.
  39. 11:08 njan: Anyway. If you're still genuinely unhappy, as I've said several times, support@freenode.net is probably your next best step.
  40. 11:08 njan: I don't think I can really help you any further, sorry.
  41. 11:08 Meepsheep: alright, thank you for holding back the african american community as a whole
  42. 11:08 Meepsheep: i will be contacting the naacp btw
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