mags - Today at 3:37 AM
why would it matter if u explore the meta
Aurora - Today at 3:37 AM
cantonese is spoken in macau too
mags - Today at 3:37 AM
@Sarah
Sarah - Today at 3:38 AM
Bc theres a reason
Why hack set that tour up
soviet - Today at 3:39 AM
tbh i feel like the ubers community is way too uninterested in the game
besides like 2 ppl
to care about exploring a one off tournament
The Trap God - Today at 3:39 AM
i cant even name 1 person truly interested in ubers
Aurora - Today at 3:39 AM
lol
mags - Today at 3:39 AM
i mean ubers is a tier where u dont really ban anything unless its actually 'broken' and shit like geomancy is overpowered but not anywhere near broken. so exploring a meta that will never become standarized seems pointless
sure its fun 2 play in but nobody gonna go tryhard
The Trap God - Today at 3:40 AM
why have immense interest in a meta that no1 is pushing anyway
soviet - Today at 3:40 AM
ppl dont even care about the main meta
just recycle (bad) teams
Aurora - Today at 3:41 AM
use memes instead
soviet - Today at 3:41 AM
aurora is the true innovator
exploring deo-d for us
Sarah - Today at 3:41 AM
This is the issue
Aurora - Today at 3:41 AM
virtually the only thing that keeps me interested in ubers is the amount of garbage to wade through
Sarah - Today at 3:41 AM
The ubers mains themselves
Are at fault
For having no ambition to push the meta forward
soviet - Today at 3:42 AM
i guess its a product of having to sit through oras
mags - Today at 3:42 AM
well i wouldnt just blame the community.. i mean ppl will be interested in pushing the meta forward if they actually liked the meta
soviet - Today at 3:42 AM
bound to leave u apathetic towards the game
mags - Today at 3:42 AM
it wasnt the same during like
dpp,bw2
soviet - Today at 3:42 AM
there are diff ppl now
i think its a bit of both
Sarah - Today at 3:42 AM
Geomancy in theorm
Could get banned
soviet - Today at 3:42 AM
meta is kinda lame and ppl just dont care as muchas they used to
mags - Today at 3:43 AM
if geo gets banned
thats dumb
Sarah - Today at 3:43 AM
?
mags - Today at 3:43 AM
like i said its far from broken
Sarah - Today at 3:43 AM
Geoxern
Forces teambuilding in such a way
mags - Today at 3:43 AM
so what
pdon does the same
Sarah - Today at 3:43 AM
Like balance needs at least 3 xern checks
mags - Today at 3:43 AM
except its not broken
soviet - Today at 3:43 AM
nah pdon doesnt rly
mags - Today at 3:43 AM
kek
Sarah - Today at 3:43 AM
And you can still straight up lose
The most prominent steels
mags - Today at 3:44 AM
pdon does it in dif ways than geoxern
Sarah - Today at 3:44 AM
Lose to coverage xern
soviet - Today at 3:44 AM
well pdon is threatening
but xern requires u use like
2 hard checks on every team
Sarah - Today at 3:44 AM
So u run hooh
mags - Today at 3:44 AM
if u were here during megaray you'd know the difference between broken and overpowered
soviet - Today at 3:44 AM
don u can kinda finesse
mags - Today at 3:44 AM
xern is overpowered
mray is broken
The Trap God - Today at 3:49 AM
ya i mean in practice
xern has never been a problem
for teams
Sarah - Today at 3:49 AM
?
The Trap God - Today at 3:49 AM
it comes down to teambuilding
theres plenty of answers for it
if you're throwing ferro on a team and thinking thats gonna be ur xern check then yea you'll have problems
but theres hella ways to deal with it
its not like its too good to where u needa ban it
Sarah - Today at 3:50 AM
No
Pdon ferro hooh can still lose
And thats
3 xern checks
The Trap God - Today at 3:50 AM
well yea
pdon is setting up sr and checking other shit
and ferro + ho oh lose to standard geoxern
i dont see ur point
Sarah - Today at 3:51 AM
Zgeo adds an another layer of prep
The Trap God - Today at 3:51 AM
pdon is naturally gonna take damage while those two already lose to thunder focus xern
so ofc if it gets a free turn of setup on say
darkceus
it can sweep
easily
Sarah - Today at 3:52 AM
All it takes is don to take some iniial chip
The Trap God - Today at 3:52 AM
ye
thts what im sayin
Sarah - Today at 3:52 AM
Which is why
Its so teambuilding constrictive
The Trap God - Today at 3:52 AM
well yea
i dont argue that
Sarah - Today at 3:53 AM
When don hooh and the prominent steels
The Trap God - Today at 3:53 AM
but things like pogre or pdon or mence all do that too
Sarah - Today at 3:53 AM
R not enough
Don u can cover
soviet - Today at 3:53 AM
the problem is when
Sarah - Today at 3:53 AM
With 1-2 mons
The Trap God - Today at 3:53 AM
u can cover xern too
run a blissey
Sarah - Today at 3:53 AM
Easily
The Trap God - Today at 3:53 AM
have some fun
soviet - Today at 3:53 AM
your "surefire checks" arent really that solid
thats when a mon is broken
The Trap God - Today at 3:53 AM
people use the wrong surefire chekcs
for a defensive oriented team
aka balance
soviet - Today at 3:53 AM
yeah xern isnt rly
that way
its checks check it
it cant rly bs through them
The Trap God - Today at 3:54 AM
ye
soviet - Today at 3:54 AM
now zgeo
klinda can
The Trap God - Today at 3:54 AM
agree
soviet - Today at 3:54 AM
but even then it has
good answers
Sarah - Today at 3:54 AM
Think a gengarite hit you too hard on the head
The Trap God - Today at 3:54 AM
me or soviet
soviet - Today at 3:54 AM
i wil lsmack the gay out of u sarah
dont talk to my boy ttg like that again
Sarah - Today at 3:54 AM
Good thing im not gay
Phew(edited)
The Trap God - Today at 3:54 AM
ya i think xern is really good too
soviet - Today at 3:54 AM
hehe
The Trap God - Today at 3:54 AM
bc of how it restricts building etc
soviet - Today at 3:54 AM
xern is the best mon in the meta atm
The Trap God - Today at 3:55 AM
based on multiple sets it can run
Sarah - Today at 3:55 AM
Thats near
Mray level
Imo
soviet - Today at 3:55 AM
nah
The Trap God - Today at 3:55 AM
but i dont think its so good it needs to be banned
soviet - Today at 3:55 AM
its only when
u have to start running trash mons to counter it
is when its a problem
The Trap God - Today at 3:55 AM
ya
soviet - Today at 3:55 AM
if its checks still exist with a normal meta
then its fine
even if they are kinda required
Sarah - Today at 3:55 AM
Xern has no
Surefire checks
soviet - Today at 3:56 AM
magearna and chansey/blissey
Sarah - Today at 3:56 AM
W/o losing to everything else
soviet - Today at 3:56 AM
hehe
The Trap God - Today at 3:56 AM
yup
now soviets providing solid examples
of good xern checks
not ferro
not cele
Sarah - Today at 3:56 AM
Magearna is so bad
In itself
The Trap God - Today at 3:56 AM
no its not
its actually really solid
Sarah - Today at 3:57 AM
If u wanna run those pkmn and lose to kyogre or anything else in the meta
The Trap God - Today at 3:57 AM
yes not being able to punish pdon immediately
sucks
Sarah - Today at 3:57 AM
To check 1 pkmn
Be my guest
The Trap God - Today at 3:57 AM
i mean the ferro teams ur talking about
also lose to ogre
lololol
the pdon ferro ho oh one?
ferro is not a good ogre check either
Aurora - Today at 3:58 AM
every team loses to ogre
The Trap God - Today at 3:58 AM
on those passive teasm
Aurora - Today at 3:58 AM
-
The Trap God - Today at 3:58 AM
teams
soviet - Today at 3:58 AM
thats what ive been sayin
for the past 10 years
The Trap God - Today at 3:58 AM
ye
soviet - Today at 3:58 AM
ogre beats everything
mags - Today at 3:58 AM
niga yea xern might be able to bypass checks easily but it doesnt mean it should be banned kek. u want an example of what broken is. mega ray can tank an icebeam from mmy
Sarah - Today at 3:59 AM
There is a major diff
mags - Today at 3:59 AM
nevermind how crazy mega ray is offensively
kek
Sarah - Today at 3:59 AM
Between kyogre and xern
mags - Today at 3:59 AM
thats ban worthy
soviet - Today at 3:59 AM
xxern doesnt even really bypass checks
mags - Today at 3:59 AM
xerneas isnt
soviet - Today at 3:59 AM
don is really the only one
and don sucks dick
ppl use stuff that isnt a xern check to check it
they use zgeo counters for reg geo
and vice versa
Sarah - Today at 3:59 AM
Banning geo would free up the meta
So u could cover everything else
The Trap God - Today at 4:00 AM
what was the team ferro/zyg/groundy/pdon/ho oh/mgar? ogre literally toxics pdon to put it on a timer, burns ferro and msab/opposing ferro blocks it from recovering. u get 6-0d by ogre
the teams ur giving examples of
are just bad teams
its not that xern is too good
Sarah - Today at 4:00 AM
?
soviet - Today at 4:00 AM
i wont argue that geo xern being banned wouldnt make the meta more enjoyable
but
Sarah - Today at 4:00 AM
Bad teams
soviet - Today at 4:00 AM
tis not broken
Sarah - Today at 4:00 AM
?
soviet - Today at 4:00 AM
and smogon doesnt ban stuff to make the meta more subjectively fun
Sarah - Today at 4:00 AM
When the best teams
Use cele / ferro
Bc they are the most prominent steels in the meta
soviet - Today at 4:01 AM
how can they be the best teams
when they lose to xern

The Trap God - Today at 4:01 AM
and ogre
cele/ferro are fine
when the rest of ur team has offensive capabilities back
that was a common team that i just named
used in spl and upl
and it gets 6-0d by ogre
mags - Today at 4:01 AM
niga are u dumb.. freeing up the meta is such a dumb reason to ban. banning pdon would free up the meta so would banning lunala so would banning ygod KEK. ubers might not just be a banlist anymore but it strictly only bans if shit is broken so if u wanna make an argument to why xern needs to be banned start off with it being broken but stop yourself there cause it aint
The Trap God - Today at 4:02 AM
the teams just arent built solidly
theres surefire checks for xern and ogre