Belial 7

[22:13] Eniel knocks at the door
(Eniel Daigal)
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[22:13] Eniel Daigal says, "Sorry...for my lateness."
[22:17] Smirked as he glanced at the Nethradin, he'd wondered exactly how the old strain of Belialists had operated. He'd hoped to get the chance to debate with them, seemed now was the time. Though, the pure fact he'd been blessed seemed enough proof of his views for him.

He'd instead focus upon Vedran, he'd offer a smile. It was enjoyable to hear one who could admit they didn't know something. The blustering of those to arrogant to see the different paths had been the key thing to irritate him in Huangzhou.

"Would you like to? I've found that they provide a measure of focus. One that I follow out of my own will, as you could do. If you found them to your liking."

A hand came to scratch at the soft stuble of his chin, as he was about to make a comment about the irony of Azreal's creation of vampires.

Then a knock at the door! Rising from his seat he'd wave the young Eniel as they entered.

"Ah! Lad, you've just arrived to a religious commune. Perhaps, you would like to also share your thoughts on the blending of faiths?"

He'd shift to Vedran rolling off to answer his previous statement. A bit of amusement in his voice as he spoke.

"He'd gone mad! To create those who where blessed with the heights of Human emotion and then try and lease them like dogs? An angel's arrogance if there ever was one. Yet, when one loses their mind such things happen."

He didn't seem to find the paradox of Azrael's original goal, with his latter actions to be an issue. Perhaps, being just as insane made it understandable.

"Though, even before I was blessed I found the feeding of vampires exciting, I've always found others that are so fearful regarding it as odd."

He'd hum as he thought back to his youthful interactions in Obsidia. Giving the duo time to speak, ask questions, respond. To act upon what they desired most out of his presence.
(Syracuse Fengari)
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[22:25] As Eniel arrived he'd apologize again to everyone for his tardiness yet the linger anger of the match between him and his brother remained. He wouldn't forget it either. He clutched his cloak as he sat down allowing the anger to subside.

As he listened to Syracuse speak he knew some of the odd stories regarding Azrael and his connecting with the first vampire Cain but he could not say he was learned probably in this subject so with that he left it alone.

What he cared for more was the words of the Belialites of old and the ones of now. " I want to know how I can be blessed in the same way you are..I have sworn myself to Belial on many occasions and I've even heard the voices of the Red stars bring back his messages but never have I yet to hear the Sealed ones words directly...and I wonder what is preventing me from doing so...The stars tell me of my destiny but I wonder if that much is true even now I have doubts. That I am adequate enough to live up to what he bade me."

Eniel thought about the recent losses he faced...was he truly the one for the task he wondered? What would his role be otherwise...He had to do something proactive otherwise his madness would take over him in the most horrid of ways.
(Eniel Daigal)
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[22:26] Sliding her hand back into Vedran's own, the Nethradin who was so publicly restrained adored what moments she could have embracing what small bits of love and romance she could. For the moment, the red-skinned woman took a glance at Vedran, smiling.

"I have no abrasion to feeding my dearest blood when he needs, mmm? It is an exciting feeling but one I rather not discuss in full length." She then paused. Turning over toward Eniel and then Syracuse. "Azraelism is the antithesis to Belial. Where as the former wants control and domination, the latter wants freedom at any costs. Azraelism should never be blended with Belialism. Nor should worship of this Dreamer. Because it was Azraelites who sealed him--- for simply wanting to let Humanity be free." Her own personal opinion as a traditionalist when it came to Belial. It was the only fragment of Memories she retained from her human life.

"I believe however, before we move to liberate the Apostles we should first discuss how we all might regain that crimson power. And how we can free ourselves adequately enough." A subtle hint at her bondage to Sors. It may not be appeaant, but even now she felt those aetheric stakes in her hands and in her ankles.
(Hathor)
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[22:27] "I don't see the harm. Haven't had necessarily any tenants or anythin' to guide my immortal life, nor provide much focus." He'd shout as the common riff-raff decided to knock at his door! Stepping away from his seat to undo the door, it'd remain that way for comfort's sake.

"An experimental attempt at Necromancy! To create perfectly immortality that resulted in our precursor-- Don't think he expected us to multiply in the rapid fashion that we did."

Ironic. Discarded for being free and unchained by Azrael's own will. He'd quirk a brow in curiosity, to think that someone welcomed the feeding of his kin?! Inconceivable! Most were cautious, if not downright terrified!

".. Do note, I imagine that I can't necessarily get that weird, glowly red blessing but it's interesting to hear about." Glancing at the red-skinned woman, it felt nice..

Not having to hide.

"But-.. Yeah. No magic."
(Vedran Ivanovich)
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[22:31] Hathor whispers something.
[22:49] The horned man would listen as those who'd gathered spoke. From Eniel's desperate attempts to prove himself to Belial, to Hathor's open disgust of Azrealism, finally to Vedran's desire to learn more.

He'd tap his claw upon the table as he pondered how best to begin. It was clear that Hathor detested his own approach. It was unsurprising she no doubt was originally from that era in the past where the Dreamer's teachings weren't so understood or appreciated.

"I'll start with telling you the Tenets handed down by Sareen Vedran. As I think you may find guideposts in life as useful as I do. After all, where you see the endless expanse of boredom that comes from aimlessness. I drifted in my own madness most of my adult life, anchors as some of us would know."

A subtle dig at the Nethradin who resided in the room. Just a small attempt really to connect the point of his willingness to adhere to the tenets.

"I'll keep it simple. As I can tell my more traditional minded friends are excited to learn how they can gain Belial's favor."

He'd raise a single digit, starting with the first tenet. As he spoke going through the tents he'd add more fingers. Coming up in the end to four in total.

"Pursue progress, so that all of Kraus' creations may grow closer to a utopia. Second seek truth, for understanding the differences between us brings us further to our own truth. It was this tenet that lead me to being the Prophet of Belial and the last bastion of the Grey Church upon Agartha."

It was an odd statement, blasphemy. Oh so sweet and delicate. One only someone who'd believed in their own choices could claim.

"Third stability, we'll all have to unite for our Utopia to be achieved. For our god to be unsealed. It was the bickering's of old that I believe led to the faith's destruction. Four, temper all of these with Justice, Mercy, and Wisdom. Least you lose sight of who you are."

He'd then give a flash of a smile. Raising his thumb for the fith tenet. Speaking as he went.

"This tenet, I discovered in my enlightenment. The Tenet of Freedom. Seek out the sensations of this world, be true to yourself, only accept the bounds you desire."

He'd tilt his head between the two lovers, a bound they desired. It was simple really. Then he'd take a breath shifting to Hathor.

"The god's fight, they always will. That does not mean we cannot find common ground with the faiths. After all, I believe Azreal is sealed within the moon alongside Belial. To gain the Oscuri and Valmasian aid in our efforts to free it?"

It could be taken as either an example of Syracuse' faith in his beliefs or perhaps hints of someone willing to manipulate countless others for his goal.

Finally he shifted his gaze to Eniel, the young lad who'd more want to prove themselves to Belial than any he'd seen.

"Eniel, you'll have to live your life FREE stride proud in who you are as a person. You may use those guideposts I spoke of or follow the old way. It matter's not."

He'd tilt his head towards the youth, a familiar smirk settling upon his features as he continued.

"So long as it's your choice, do you understand? The fifth tenet, live life to the fullest. Engage in the wilds of love, the depths of hatred, whatever you desire."

It was how he'd became blessed, surely other's who lived life as he did could do the same?

Finally at the end he'd look back to Vedran, answering a few small bits.

"I wished to experience all the world had to offer. So, when Donovan approached me with hunger in her eyes. I decided to feed them, simply because I'd never did it."

He'd chuckle at that, the ironies piercing together. Then as if to further the vampires concern about not gaining access to Belials touch.

"Now, I feed her when she needs it and she has taken me her son. She can feel the gift of Belial when she feeds or is close. You could to, once Hathor reproves herself."
(Syracuse Fengari)
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[23:00] Raising up from her chair, the Nethradin made sure to allow the hand within her lovers to rise up his am, and slowly, she'd move to place both hands onto the shoulders of the Vampire. With a pause, she spoke out cleanly, almost angered. Perhaps with her experience in being part of the afterlife would make the others believe in what she said.

"Azrael is not in the moon with Belial. Azrael is the one who SEALED him and the Apostles. And this Sareen? She isn't deserving of having her tenets merged with the philosophy brought out by Belial. How can you at once speak of mercy in one go, but pursuing ones wrath in the same breath? Can you truly believe that those who would hinder us deserve the same respect as those who have taught us we have our own free will?" Both hands of the Nethradin began to dig in Vedran's shoulders. A way for her to vent her anger. After all, any cuts she'd make on him would regenerate flawlessly.

"People like Sors… who are Azraelites and who bind me, embarrass me. Treat me like an animal... You know it was not the Krausites who caused Valamsia's cult to go under yes? But rather the Azraelites. Fulfilling their Master's wish to subject those who did not want to embrace freedoms."
(Hathor)
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[23:04] Peculiar! The ability to embrace Belial's blessing due to feeding off a believer-- Glancing over to Hathor, her whisper more then affirming that idea. Tenet of Freedom.

It dawned upon the vampire that he'd already achieved what he sought after, bound to his Nethradin lover-.. Truly a tenet that he could approve of.

Justice, Mercy, and Wisdom, however? Stability. Wasn't necessarily a trio of virtues that Vedran was necessarily in touch with! Pausing, as both the Nethradin's hands latched onto her shoulders-- Pupils dilating as they spoke..

"You know-- I haven't necessarily inquired the 'who' or the 'what' Belial is!" Seemingly ignoring Hathor's pointed claws that dug at his shoulders-- Must've been experienced some older wounds from her past life..

"Don't think I've allowed a certain Nethradin to feed off my mana as of yet.."
(Vedran Ivanovich)
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[23:12] Eniel thinks for a moment these tenements made little sense to him and as Syracuse spoke more and more of the combining of the faiths his eyes tended to slant and grow more a bit more skeptical of Syracuse.


" While its probably true our Faith is first and for most to liberate and to free its less about the gods and their fighting and more about what the overarching goal is. Oscuri are violently prohibited from following in the steps of other gods beyond their own. Most of Valmasian culture is built upon Azrael and the grey church and...Introducing the enemy of the 'Angels' themselves would never stand.

Belial resists the Angels of all creeds...It is the exact reason why Belial exists and although you may be blessed by him it is the Angels who shackled the very existence of him from this realm. You're asking for Oil and water to mix in the same bottle...I do not think it will happen and even if it did it would only take one coalition of Oscuri to stop it from becoming a reality."

Eniel had experienced many of tyranny under the faithful of Azrael and while he may serve into he Morninglords Legion now he held no true faith in their creeds beyond his own grasps of power.

Hearing the seething venom of Hathor's words Eniel could only agree with what she was saying despite not knowing any of the history or anger behind it. He could feel it in his spirit that it wasn't something that was possible.

" I think...you're being far to optimistic while not everyone here in Dawn shares high faith in Azrael there are many who do and many who will fight to keep their lords aspects wholesome. I grew up most my life in Valmasia and I know how Oscuri can be when challenged in their faith. It is not something I wish to recreate in Agartha...and Neries are not exempt from this either although they tend to be far less brutal when challenged...Those are just my opinions though." Eniel then placed his hand on the table to receive.

"Even if We are not able to agree upon this pantheon idea of yours I find it less likely that the others outside of ourselves will either. The concept of Azrael no matter how distorted. Is to enslave and abuse power and dominance and control. To bind the souls to others for your own selfish desires. The creed of Angels who follow Kruas and the Lifestream is to enact peace and balance they choose to invoke trust with the lifestream and let the world fall into disaster as long as it is the natural flow of the world. Even if they themselves cause the disaster how ever many mortals give their lives for their cause is justified.

And as for us. Myself and Hathor. We believe in breaking the shackles Angels have placed on our world. We require true liberation not half conceived concept of an ideal world. Some people will have to suffer. Some people will have to die...and some people will need be sacrificed for the greater good of our freedoms to eventually secure our lords glory once more...We cannot avoid this, The path to Liberating Agartha will be filled with blood and gore, It will be peerless and difficult, and we will perhaps be in the shadows of the world for along time. But it is better than betraying our core concepts at least the ones I have learned Fundamentally. The blending of concepts will not aid us...they will hinder us and eventually cause our demise." Eniel had said his peace at least from what he thought..He knew Hathor felt quite similar looking at how she squeezed Vedran's shoulders.

(Eniel Daigal)
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[23:16] * You have been awarded 1 Roleplay Points! *
[23:22] Shifting his gaze about the room he took in the responses as they came. With a swiftness that showcased his willingness to speak to all comers of the conversation he'd respond to each.

"Azrael is not on Eternia, he'd have been found an unsealed by now. Thus, only the moon remains. If it is true we free two of the old gods, who perhaps have found common ground in their shared imprisonment. If not? Well the Oscuri who believe us have just aided us free him."

He'd offer a shrug, it seemed logical enough to him. Though, perhaps that was the issue, to logical. He'd scratch his chin at the mention of Sors.

"Sors ain't a faithful, man just uses it as an excuse for his own desires. Best you might say he looks up to the thing Azreal became."

With a soft hum of cosmic energy trailing along his tattoed rune-ways. The horned man woul move past it, shifting to Vedran, after all he wasn't about to debate a Nethradin to much. They couldn't change from what they where in life after all. Or at-least, that was what he'd been told.

"I think Belial is Azreal and Azreal is Belial. Yet, who can even say? After-all I am quite intude with my gods and necessarily rather mad! Bwahahaha!"

His hearty laugh echoed throughout the room as he accentuated that point. As if it was an amusing joke.

"The answer is simple, I don't know. Any who'd tell you they did know, well their a fool or worse a liar. As for allowing Hathor to nip upon your mana? I say why not give it a try."

Offering a shrug he shifted to Eniel, listening to the lad's explanation of his own viewpoints. Giving a nod as he expressed such venom, another traditionalist.

"Good points, good points, I can see where your coming from. Though don't forget, I to was born and raised in Valmasia. I grew up with those same Oscuri and I imagine even more Neries."

He'd give a chuckle, he was a Neries after all. He knew well enough of their own devotion. Though after a moment he'd answer the denial of an ideal world being possible.

"I'll be honest, I think you and Hathor won't see my way of things. Yet, the best part? I don't care. My freedom, my belief in what could be a Utopia? Well, it's my own."

As he spoke there'd be the ever increasing sparking of corrupted mana dancing along his skin. Why, if he was wrong and they right. Why was he blessed?

"Though, in the end our goal is the freeing of Belial from it's imprisonment. I for one will embrace the Tenets and praise our diversity, our ability to be united in the this goal."

He'd tilt his head back to Vedran, after all he was the one on the line. Not the other two Belialists.

"What of you Vedran, as I said you must walk your own path. Whether it be the old or the new, I will be pleased so long as it is /your/ choice."

The cosmic wreathed man emphasized that it had to be the vampires own choice. After all, to try and force him wouldn't be very much adhering to the fifth tenet.
(Syracuse Fengari)
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[23:30] Whether or not Vedran had stake in the debate, as Syracuse was shrouded in a corrupted presence of mana-- Blessed by Belial! It felt as if neries was definitely doing something proper, whether or not it was commonly agreed upon. "Your path doesn't necessarily incorrect, you've managed to achieve your blessing regardless - I'm curious.. does the particular path itself matter? Or the results?"

Peeling his gaze away from Syracuse, directed upward at the Nethradin currently clawing at his shoulders.. "Unsure. I'll be honest, I feel like it'll come to me in time-- Got all the time in the world." Unless he fell victim to war.

"Regardless! I can certainly see myself gettin' more invested in Belial's unsealment."
(Vedran Ivanovich)
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[23:35] With a nod of his head, well several nods. The man seemed to have grown more manic with each second of the mana's coursing through his circuitry.

"So long as the path you choose is one you wish to follow? Then it does not matter, your own will's use is what Belial desires to see. I am proof of that."

He'd shake his shoulders a bit, using up some of that nervous energy. He'd stand up giving Vedran a nod as he did so.

"So long as we don't die killing those damn jinks! My friend where right in that regard, someone's gotta get pipe'd so we can have our dreams come true."
(Syracuse Fengari)
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[23:40] Eniel merely watched as the Vampire and the Neires discussed. It seemed Vedran was rather indifferent which was mostly expected but most of all he did purpose a question that resonated with him. ' Does the particular path itself matter or the result?' Eniel thought to himself about his own answer to the purposed.

" In a situation like that I would like to go to the worst case scenario, We announce or faith publicly and it is rejected. All who followed the worship of the Moon. And this has been done many times before especially by the Hands of Azraelites Hathor can remember far more vividly than I can read from books however.."

" I just don't trust them Syracuse Its good that you can but it does nothing to further the goal of releasing Belial if we work with Azraelites it makes things more difficult if we try to accomedate everyone and it makes the task you're attempting even more unnecessary... If we take the path that is laid out for us we will have our goal accomplished. But taking the route where it involves other aspects? It invites deceit and rebellion and the eventual cleansing of Belial entirely for another decade if any remain."

Eniel stood up it seemed there was nothing more to discuss about it..he would have to follow his own path of the stars and leave whatever Syracuse was doing ot his own.

" Since you follow our lord clearly I will always have your back but as far as working with those of Azrael my duty is merely a passenger. I won't expose myself in any capacity. But I do wish you luck and if your soul is to be taken by them I will do my utmost to revive your memory in our rituals."
(Eniel Daigal)
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[23:41] Syracuse Fengari says, "I already publicly announced myself a prophet at the Tournament."
[23:41] Eniel Daigal says, "You have. Not everyone."
[23:41] Syracuse Fengari exclaims, "Exactly!"
[23:41] Syracuse Fengari says, "I'm a canary, see if I die."
[23:41] Hathor says, "Syracuse makes a good 'Face'."
[23:41] Hathor says, "Due to his wish to blend the faiths."
[23:41] Syracuse Fengari says, "And my good looks."
[23:42] Eniel Daigal says, "So..."
[23:42] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Sacrifical lamb."
[23:42] Hathor says, "You may be the second most handsome gentleman I now, Syracuse."
[23:42] Eniel Daigal says, "You want to use him as a misdirection."
[23:42] Syracuse Fengari says, "Use him? How very Azrealite of you."
[23:42] Vedran Ivanovich asks, "Misdirection?"
[23:42] Syracuse Fengari says, "No, I wish to walk freely. So, I do."
[23:43] Syracuse shrugged, it was simple. No one had manipulated him to make his faith known.
(Syracuse Fengari)
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[23:43] Eniel Daigal says, "Myself and Hathor carry out our plans in secret while Syrcaus invokes his liberites of all reliigions."
[23:43] Hathor says, "Syracuse does what he wants and by proxy enables those wh oare inbetween faiths to lean our way."
[23:43] Eniel Daigal says, "Mhm."
[23:43] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Huh..."
[23:43] Hathor says, "We then take that lean and completely push them into the depths of what it is to be Us."
[23:44] Syracuse Fengari says, "Then they choose what to believe."
[23:44] Hathor says, "Our paths intersect and can be mutually benefitical."
[23:44] Eniel Daigal says, "I feel the blending of cultures has always failed or has lead to more violent rebeillon...This is what history has shown us time and time again."
[23:44] Hathor says, "And it's not like the prior three tenets seem to hold as much sway over him."
[23:44] Eniel Daigal says, "Just as the Krausite extigusihed Azraelism once before."
[23:45] Syracuse Fengari says, "Sounds exciting to me."
[23:45] Vedran Ivanovich says, "We'll all seem in time."
[23:45] Vedran Ivanovich asks, "Won't we?"
[23:45] Syracuse Fengari says, "Well, we could all die fighting the Sheng."
[23:45] Vedran Ivanovich says, "That'd be a disappointing finish."
[23:45] Eniel Daigal says, "My destiny isn't to die there."
[23:45] Syracuse Fengari asks, "Wouldn't it?"
[23:46] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Quite."
[23:46] Eniel Daigal says, "Even if Sheng destroys Dawn I have plans for after."
[23:46] Eniel Daigal says, "It would be unfortunate though...It would set me back years"
[23:46] Syracuse Fengari says, "If I'm alive at that point I'll simple go to Obsidia."
[23:46] Syracuse Fengari says, "Nice place, warm weather."
[23:46] Hathor says, "I've made motions to get our priviledges to visit crafthold back, Vedran."
[23:46] Syracuse Fengari says, "Very good bathhouse."
[23:46] Vedran Ivanovich asks, "You have...?"
[23:46] Vedran Ivanovich says, "How."
[23:46] Hathor says, "I'm a very convincing woman."
[23:46] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Also! Ugh-- Heat! Ain't the fondest of Obsidia."
[23:46] Vedran Ivanovich says, "That ain't cryptic at all."
[23:47] Eniel Daigal says, "Its unfortuante though I had hoped we would all be on similar pages. So we could plan the most effective way to free Belial."
[23:47] Syracuse Fengari says, "Well ol'Malentine ain't gonna let us use the mountains."
[23:47] Hathor says, "You know I enjoy being cryptic."
[23:47] Syracuse Fengari says, "Eniel, my young friend. You're just that, young. Give it time, you'll find our diversity much more exciting than if we where all the same."
[23:47] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Those old mountains belonged ta' us once durin' the days of Baukdengrad."
[23:48] Vedran Ivanovich says, "I came outta' that big rift."
[23:48] Hathor says, "...Oh I did want to mention something."
[23:48] Syracuse Fengari exclaims, "I heard about some of that!"
[23:48] Eniel Daigal says, "doubtful...I think this will result in your death most likely."
[23:48] Syracuse Fengari says, "I'm hard to kill."
[23:48] Hathor asks, "SHould any of you find information on Nethradin binding; do tell me, won't you?"
[23:48] Eniel Daigal says, "But I'm willing to see it through to that conclusion."
[23:48] Syracuse Fengari says, "That! I apprecaite."
[23:49] Hathor says, "See if I can't reverse-engineer the spell to allow me to remain here while also being free."
[23:49] Syracuse Fengari says, "Hathor, I'll ask my mother about it. Perhaps she's some wisdom regarding it."
[23:49] Eniel Daigal says, "My master is a very zealous man even if he masquerades as not After this war he will do his best to drain any chance of himself being over thrown. Thats my assumption at least."
[23:50] Syracuse Fengari says, "I've no doubt of that Eniel, none at all."
[23:50] Hathor says, "And if not, perhaps I can find someone much more..."
[23:50] Syracuse Fengari says, "But! I'm going to go talk to my mother if she's about. Care to open the door? I think this meeting was quite successful."
[23:50] Hathor moves a hand to Vedran's jaw, aiming to give it a gentle caress.
(Hathor)
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[23:50] Hathor says, "Accepting of me to be my anchor."
[23:50] Vedran Ivanovich says, "You're acting like we're plannin' a coup, Eniel.."
[23:50] Eniel Daigal asks, "Was it?"
[23:51] Eniel Daigal says, "It seems we just split our selves into different factions."
[23:51] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Mm.."
[23:51] Syracuse Fengari says, "We learned about one another, and figured out what makes us different."
[23:51] Hathor says, "Let me allow these two gentlemen out."
[23:51] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Yer' thinking about this in a very divided manner."
[23:51] Vedran Ivanovich says, "We all have the same goal."
[23:51] Vedran Ivanovich asks, "Do we not?"
[23:51] Syracuse Fengari says, "Exactly."
[23:51] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Simply varying methods."
[23:52] Syracuse Fengari says, "Some more. . . Modern other's more traditional."
[23:52] Syracuse Fengari says, "None wrong per se."
[23:52] Eniel Daigal says, "Hm...It lessens the cause if we die though. Is my point. Exposing your neck to unnecssary danger is..."
[23:52] Syracuse Fengari asks, "Excillerating?"
[23:52] Eniel stood up and sighed. What was the point with arguing with a madman? It seemed everyone had already made their choices long before hand.
(Eniel Daigal)
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[23:52] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Productive, I'd say."
[23:52] Syracuse strolled out of the house in high spirits!
(Syracuse Fengari)
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[23:53] Eniel Daigal says, "Well Hathor if you still want to work together I think we have enough of a similar understanding to do so. Find me when you're ready."
[23:53] Hathor happens to pull out another one of her soothe-reed wraps, giving it a light to be placed upon her lips.
(Hathor)
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[23:53] Vedran Ivanovich says, "Pleasure to make yer' aquintance, Syracuse."