Shintolin brainstorming with Miejoe & Moronicus

[11:20]	* Miejoe	puts a log in a lake for Revenant to balance on.
[11:20]	<Revenant>	xD
[11:20]	<Miejoe>	Enjoy.
[11:21]	<Revenant>	Log bridges are on my list of game improvements.
[11:21]	<Revenant>	Also proper bridges.
[11:21]	<Miejoe>	I was thinking about that the other day. xD
[11:21]	<Revenant>	Hopefully I'll be able to start prototyping soon.
[11:21]	<Miejoe>	:DD
[11:21]	<Miejoe>	That would be awesome.
[11:21]	<Revenant>	The idea is have a log bridge be the primitive version
[11:21]	<Revenant>	Which anyone can use, and works like you had Swimming.
[11:21]	<Revenant>	And then make an upgraded version which requires logs and staves and sticks
[11:22]	<Revenant>	but works like a road. Or pier, I suppose?
[11:22]	<Revenant>	And cobbled roads.
[11:22]	<Revenant>	and, and, and...
[11:22]	<Revenant>	MORE FIRE
[11:22]	<Miejoe>	I want houses on top of logs.
[11:22]	* Revenant	wants forest fires like in SHartak >:D
[11:22]	<Revenant>	YES
[11:22]	<Miejoe>	Like, on the floodplains!
[11:22]	<Revenant>	YUS! :D
[11:22]	<Revenant>	with retractable ladders!
[11:23]	<Miejoe>	That would be so cool. :D
[11:23]	<Revenant>	also siege ladders
[11:23]	<Miejoe>	Or treehouses.
[11:23]	<Revenant>	for climbing walls
[11:23]	<Revenant>	YES!
[11:23]	<Miejoe>	:DD
[11:23]	<Miejoe>	Hee. :D
[11:23]	<Miejoe>	Do want.
[11:23]	<Revenant>	and pits
[11:23]	<Revenant>	which you can out sharpened sticks in
[11:23]	<Miejoe>	Oooo! :D
[11:23]	<Revenant>	put
[11:24]	<Miejoe>	Do catch anim-
[11:24]	<Miejoe>	<3
[11:24]	<Revenant>	or connect them to water and make moats
[11:24]	<Miejoe>	Squeee!
[11:24]	<Miejoe>	SQUEEE
[11:24]	<Revenant>	or, y'know, irrigation ;)
[11:24]	<Miejoe>	:3
[11:24]	<Revenant>	that'd be nifty as
[11:24]	<Miejoe>	Vewwy.
[11:24]	<Revenant>	also I'd love it if animals were more interactive
[11:25]	<Miejoe>	Me too. I like how they maul you in Shartak.
[11:25]	<Revenant>	like, you could come across a deer carcass which a saber-tooth has just killed
[11:25]	<Revenant>	if you can drive it off, you can take the meat
[11:25]	<Miejoe>	Ooooh nice.
[11:25]	<Revenant>	Yarr!
[11:25]	<Revenant>	But I'd start with having some of them attack.
[11:25]	<Revenant>	But keep away if you have a fire
[11:25]	<Miejoe>	First things first, yup.
[11:25]	<Revenant>	Also I want fires inside buildings
[11:25]	<Miejoe>	Revenant for developer!
[11:25]	<Miejoe>	:D
[11:25]	<Revenant>	And a chance of them burning down if left unattended xD
[11:26]	<Miejoe>	Heh heh!
[11:26]	<Revenant>	But you could use pots of water to put them out
[11:26]	<Revenant>	or an axe to chop them away or something?
[11:26]	<Revenant>	Also Moronicus wants mammoths to be able to pick up huts and wear them
[11:26]	<Revenant>	as armour
[11:26]	<Revenant>	xD
[11:27]	<Miejoe>	hahahahaha
[11:27]	<Miejoe>	XD
[11:27]	* Revenant	needs to write all these ideas down quickly before he forgets them
[11:27]	<Miejoe>	Yeah. :D
[11:27]	<Revenant>	I had a huge list before
[11:27]	<Revenant>	but I forgot where I put it
[11:27]	<Revenant>	Oh, now I remember!
[11:31]	<Miejoe>	:D
[11:45]	<Moronicus>	[11:25] <&Revenant> if you can drive it off, you can take the meat | The best way to do that would be random events while wandering
[11:45]	<Revenant>	Yus!
[11:45]	<Revenant>	Or more dynamic animals
[11:46]	<Revenant>	so this kind of stuff is naturally emergent behaviour
[11:46]	<Revenant>	at the moment, animals just wander
[11:46]	<Moronicus>	[11:18] <&Revenant> FUCK YOU MORONICUS | Your hatred only makes me more powerful
[11:46]	<Revenant>	I KNOW! >:(
[11:47]	<Moronicus>	[11:26] <&Revenant> Also Moronicus wants mammoths to be able to pick up huts and wear them | Modelled on the Discworlds Hermit Elephant
[11:47]	<Revenant>	Yes, I remember that. xD
[11:48]	<Moronicus>	[11:25] <&Revenant> Also I want fires inside buildings | I want to be able to set buildings on fire, so that a building takes X amount of damage every AP tick until someone uses a pot of water on it
[11:49]	<Moronicus>	preventing you fromw andering off from a town under attack for a week and coming back to find only two buildings destroyed and easily fixing everything else
[11:49]	<Revenant>	Heck yes.
[11:49]	<Moronicus>	also, locust plagues operating based on the storm code, but attacking fields
[11:50]	<Revenant>	... nasty!
[11:50]	<Miejoe>	Oooooooh!
[11:50]	<Moronicus>	the ability to attack people in adjacent tiles by throwing stones/spears at them
[11:50]	<Miejoe>	I love that one!
[11:50]	<Miejoe>	Muwahahahaha.
[11:50]	<Miejoe>	<3
[11:50]	<Revenant>	ANd I want wooden fences
[11:51]	<Moronicus>	with, obviously, an accuracy penalty for range
[11:51]	<Revenant>	And to be able to plant spiky bushes instead of wheat
[11:51]	<Miejoe>	:o
[11:51]	<Miejoe>	:D
[11:51]	<Revenant>	so they'd cause people damage when they try to go through them :D
[11:51]	<Revenant>	(Came up with that idea after spending a day gardening...)
[11:51]	<Moronicus>	a skill that lets people climb high hills
[11:51]	<Moronicus>	not bitter. not bitter at all
[11:52]	<Revenant>	xD
[11:52]	<Revenant>	Yes. We need the ability to built taller towers. That has been previously suggested. As have multi-level walls.
[11:52]	<Moronicus>	and this is one i really fucking want: The ability to cobble roads
[11:53]	<Revenant>	I'm not sure but I think walls/guardstands might be able to get you on top of medium hills.
[11:53]	<Moronicus>	so they don't fucking revert
[11:53]	<Revenant>	Don't think there's anywhere to test this theory
[11:53]	<Moronicus>	at least for a while
[11:53]	<Revenant>	YES
[11:53]	<Revenant>	and stone bridges as well as the log and wooden ones I mentioned earlier
[11:54]	<Moronicus>	a return of the hammers of the gods too. Evito and I deserve a reward for finding Valhalla
[11:54]	<Moronicus>	and conquering it
[11:55]	<Moronicus>	speaking of, anyone know some free screenshot services where you don't have to sign up?
[11:55]	<Revenant>	Yes.
[11:55]	<Revenant>	imgur is good
[11:56]	<Moronicus>	fuck evito for watering my fucking crops
[11:56]	<Revenant>	xD
[11:56]	<Moronicus>	i'll fucking kill him
[11:56]	<Revenant>	You guys are hilarious.
[11:56]	<Moronicus>	and take his frags!
[11:57]	<Revenant>	So do you guys only work together because you hate the gods more than each other, or what?
[11:57]	<Revenant>	Or is it that you're stuck with each other?
[11:58]	<Moronicus>	we are a living embodiment of the saying "Keep your friends close, your enemies closer"
[11:58]	<Revenant>	hahahahahaha
[11:58]	<Revenant>	Nice.
[12:00]	<Moronicus>	ok, link me to this image hosting service. I have the screenshot of gods glade ready to go
[12:01]	<Moronicus>	this will be the first glimpse anyone besides admin has had into hat Evito and I (Mostly me) have been up to since we moved in
[12:01]	<Moronicus>	*what
[12:02]	<Moronicus>	fuck you imageshack for being dicks
[12:02]	<Moronicus>	oh great. Rev has wandered off
[12:02]	<Moronicus>	wonderful
[12:03]	<Revenant>	I'm here!
[12:03]	<Revenant>	Was just multichanneling!
[12:03]	* Moronicus	clubs Revenant with his E=peen
[12:03]	<Revenant>	D:
[12:04]	* Revenant	is guessing it's over 9000 e-inches?
[12:04]	<Moronicus>	I never bothered to measure it
[12:04]	<Revenant>	http://lmgtfy.com/?q=imgur
[12:04]	<Moronicus>	it's one of those things you have, but never care about until it is time to whack someone with it
[12:04]	<Revenant>	I know what you mean.
[12:04]	<Revenant>	You only measure if you're insecure.
[12:05]	<Moronicus>	to be fair rev, i did google, that didn;t show up
[12:05]	<Revenant>	Your Google kung fu is weak, old man
[12:05]	<Moronicus>	http://i.imgur.com/8pu5t.png
[12:06]	<Revenant>	Now *I* am the Master.
[12:06]	<Moronicus>	I PRESENT GODS GLADE!
[12:06]	* Revenant	clicks
[12:06]	<Revenant>	Ooooooh.
[12:06]	<Moronicus>	i did promise it on the forums,s o i'll go post it there
[12:06]	<Revenant>	Wow. That is not very big.
[12:07]	<Revenant>	No wonder people have trouble finding it.
[12:08]	<Revenant>	Oh yeah
[12:08]	<Revenant>	you guys don't object to me posting the brainstorming logs on the forums do you?
[12:08]	* Revenant	is too lazy to edit them
[12:09]	<Revenant>	I could put them in a pastebin or something but I'd probably lose it.
[12:09]	<Moronicus>	summarise them
[12:10]	<Moronicus>	I have a reputation to maintain as a complete and utter arsehole
[12:10]	<Moronicus>	I worked hard to get it by flaming Masumi and Sugarpop
[12:11]	<Moronicus>	though in the case of the former, it was more a case of repeated self inflicted injury. Kinda sad :(
[12:13]	<Moronicus>	I must, once again, reiterate my demand to be able to make sandwiches
[12:13]	<Moronicus>	the special feature should be that they increase your fullness by four instead of one
[12:14]	<Revenant>	Bahahaha
[12:14]	<Revenant>	OK
[12:15]	<Moronicus>	also, as stated before, signposts should be immune to storms
[12:15]	<Revenant>	Yeah. :S
[12:15]	<Moronicus>	i'd lean towards land features without HP, but can be destroyed for a flat 10ap expense
[12:15]	<Moronicus>	i'd lean towards land features without HP, but can be destroyed for a flat 10ap expense
[12:15]	<Revenant>	It'd be nice to be able to dismantle some things into their components.
[12:16]	<Moronicus>	yeah, stealing walls would be fun
[12:16]	<Revenant>	Like, take your spear apart into a hand axe and a stave
[12:16]	<Revenant>	HARH
[12:16]	<Revenant>	I think it's stupid you can't rip through stone buildings with a pick
[12:16]	<Moronicus>	and has historical foundation
[12:16]	<Revenant>	Also
[12:17]	<Revenant>	Undermining :D
[12:17]	<Moronicus>	in times of peace, stone walls were often dismantled to provide housing materials
[12:17]	<Revenant>	Yes!
[12:17]	<Moronicus>	stonefall traps with boulders? Or is that getting two dwarf fortressy?
[12:18]	<Moronicus>	oh yeah, and the post is up in the changes thread
[12:18]	<Revenant>	Traps of all sorts of kinds would be great.
[12:18]	<Moronicus>	http://i.imgur.com/8pu5t.png
[12:18]	<Revenant>	Snare traps.
[12:18]	<Revenant>	Rope + tree
[12:18]	<Revenant>	:D
[12:18]	<Revenant>	net traps! and nets as weapons!
[12:18]	<Moronicus>	prevent animal from fleeing?
[12:19]	<Revenant>	struggle each turn for an x% change to get free, or cut yourself free!
[12:19]	<Revenant>	YES!
[12:19]	<Revenant>	Bows+arrows!
[12:19]	<BD>	I finally !
[12:20]	<BD>	I have seen in it
[12:20]	<Revenant>	Hola BD!
[12:20]	<Revenant>	We're just brainstorming some here
[12:20]	<BD>	You know after it found I had a dream about it.
[12:20]	<BD>	Hey Revenant !
[12:20]	<BD>	How secret is it still?
[12:21]	<Moronicus>	only Evito and myself know ehere it is, along with GCP i believe, and maybe one more
[12:21]	<Revenant>	Yeah, the Nexals found it, too.
[12:21]	<Revenant>	But they won't share the location.
[12:21]	<Moronicus>	even amongst themselves, I hope
[12:21]	<Revenant>	Well, Berserkas did tell Sweedee he wasn't going to share... :P
[12:22]	<Revenant>	I think like the top 2 or 3 of them know
[12:22]	<BD>	Will you let me know some day
[12:22]	<Revenant>	Based on stuff they've said
[12:22]	<Moronicus>	possibly
[12:22]	<Moronicus>	it is about as useless a site tactically as they come
[12:22]	<Moronicus>	it's only value is containing my own foulness
[12:22]	<Moronicus>	A prison for me :D
[12:23]	<Revenant>	... hang on
[12:23]	<BD>	But good for hiding no?
[12:23]	<Revenant>	the totem pole is on the hill, which you can't reach
[12:23]	<Moronicus>	yup
[12:23]	<Revenant>	... doesn't that mean nobody else can join?
[12:23]	<Moronicus>	nobody else can join
[12:23]	<BD>	I saw that the bastards
[12:23]	<Moronicus>	ever
[12:23]	<Revenant>	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[12:23]	<Revenant>	So it's just you two
[12:23]	<Revenant>	and Admin?
[12:23]	<Moronicus>	Evito & Moronicus forever
[12:24]	<Moronicus>	i punted admin
[12:24]	<Revenant>	And maybe Isaac, I dunno, he's stuck in the wilderness somewhere by the sounds of it
[12:24]	<Revenant>	HAHAHAHA
[12:24]	<Revenant>	probably not the real Isaac
[12:24]	<Moronicus>	we have well and truly stolen the home of the gods
[12:24]	<Revenant>	Brought fire back? ;)
[12:24]	<BD>	That is awesome
[12:25]	<Moronicus>	eventually. First i returned the gift of weaponry to admins head